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th1a | hi yvl | 16:09 |
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th1a | menesis? | 16:12 |
th1a | *tap* *tap* | 16:13 |
th1a | This thing on? | 16:13 |
menesis | th1a: hi! | 16:15 |
menesis | yes we can see you :) | 16:15 |
th1a | Cool. | 16:15 |
th1a | I'm having a little trouble bootstrapping myself onto the Campus VPN. | 16:16 |
th1a | Having general bootstrapping problems... I think the IT info desk is inside the library, which wants you to have an ID to get in, but I need to get online to get an ID, etc. | 16:16 |
th1a | I'm not sure if I mentioned we're living on campus. | 16:16 |
menesis | does IRC work? or you had to resort to a web client? | 16:17 |
th1a | I'm just on a Windows box in the 24 hour study center. | 16:17 |
th1a | That's the best I can do so far. | 16:17 |
th1a | But I must say, in 2013 a javascript IRC client is pretty much indistinguishable from a native one, although I don't know if I'll get it to beep at me. | 16:18 |
menesis | :) | 16:20 |
menesis | so you couldn't connect your computer to the internet yet | 16:21 |
th1a | I just found a forum posting with the VPN settings for Linux, so I'm going to sit here and try that later. | 16:22 |
th1a | I didn't really have time or brain cells to deal with it yesterday at length. | 16:22 |
th1a | The one thing I did learn is that if you're going overseas for a year, paying for the somewhat pricey international data plan in the first month probably is worth it. | 16:23 |
th1a | For the first month, at least. | 16:23 |
th1a | It is kind of hilarious how useful modern devices become without an internet connection. | 16:24 |
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replaceafill | good mor.... afternoon! :) | 16:26 |
th1a | Hi replaceafill. | 16:26 |
th1a | 2:30 here. | 16:26 |
replaceafill | how was the trip th1a? | 16:26 |
th1a | I got up at noon. | 16:27 |
th1a | Very smooth, really. | 16:27 |
replaceafill | :| | 16:27 |
th1a | I'm just happy I got back to sleep after being up from 2:00 to 4:00 AM. | 16:27 |
th1a | The funny thing is that Boston > Glasgow via Iceland is just a 4.5 and 2 hour flight. It is too short to sleep. | 16:28 |
th1a | It'd make more sense to fly to Iceland during the day, hang out for the evening, and do the rest the next morning. | 16:29 |
th1a | Can I have a few minutes to check my mail guys? | 16:30 |
replaceafill | sure | 16:31 |
yvl | sure | 16:32 |
th1a | Have to finalize our house rental... | 16:34 |
th1a | OK. | 16:37 |
th1a | Sorry about that. | 16:37 |
th1a | replaceafill: Did you email Glenda about the year-end report? | 16:37 |
replaceafill | th1a, yes | 16:38 |
th1a | Is is just under the year? | 16:38 |
replaceafill | no, under School | 16:38 |
replaceafill | she wasn't using the trunk ppa | 16:38 |
th1a | OK, I figured. | 16:38 |
replaceafill | i checked her instance | 16:38 |
th1a | It just annoyed me that I couldn't straighten that out before I left. | 16:38 |
th1a | So she's testing on trunk PPA now? | 16:39 |
replaceafill | that's what i asked them last niht | 16:39 |
replaceafill | night* | 16:39 |
th1a | OK, thanks for sorting this out. | 16:40 |
replaceafill | sure | 16:41 |
replaceafill | i just have one issue left | 16:41 |
th1a | One very strange thing right now is that there is some kind of international summer session going on, which is literally 100% asian. | 16:41 |
th1a | I've come to Scotland to be surrounded by Asians. | 16:41 |
replaceafill | :D | 16:41 |
th1a | OK, go ahead replaceafill. | 16:42 |
th1a | Sorry to interrupt. ;-) | 16:42 |
replaceafill | np | 16:42 |
replaceafill | so, it's about layers | 16:42 |
replaceafill | i used the same layer structure for the 2013 XLS | 16:42 |
replaceafill | that makes the search tables to show duplicated layers | 16:43 |
replaceafill | because the function sees two documents | 16:43 |
replaceafill | which is correct | 16:43 |
replaceafill | but confusing imho for the user | 16:43 |
th1a | When you are searching what you see what? | 16:44 |
replaceafill | let me get a screenshot | 16:44 |
th1a | Thanks. | 16:45 |
replaceafill | i tried to set up a testing instance | 16:45 |
replaceafill | but the process takes too much memory | 16:45 |
replaceafill | gets killed in the vps :( | 16:45 |
th1a | The importer? | 16:46 |
replaceafill | yes | 16:46 |
replaceafill | when you try to deprecate the 2012 skills | 16:46 |
replaceafill | a minute please, installing gimp :) | 16:48 |
th1a | I might fall asleep. It is stuffy in this room. | 16:48 |
replaceafill | http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=267574 | 16:49 |
replaceafill | that's Search in the Skills page | 16:50 |
replaceafill | but it's the same when you're adding a skill to a project for example | 16:50 |
replaceafill | it should be the same when you add a skill to a course (but that's still a pending bug) | 16:50 |
replaceafill | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.cando/+bug/1138392 | 16:50 |
replaceafill | so you see Skill, Skill in the layers column | 16:51 |
replaceafill | because the 2012 and 2013 documents use the same layers | 16:51 |
th1a | That image is not working for me on this computer for some reason. | 16:52 |
replaceafill | oh | 16:52 |
replaceafill | i can mail it | 16:52 |
th1a | I guess. | 16:52 |
th1a | Sometimes screenshots make things easier... | 16:53 |
replaceafill | sent | 16:53 |
th1a | So... are you just not filtering retired skills? | 16:55 |
replaceafill | yes, retired skills are filtered | 16:55 |
replaceafill | this are not retired | 16:55 |
replaceafill | i'm saying that the logic for the layers column shows every document the skill is related to | 16:56 |
th1a | So... that's just a bug? | 16:56 |
replaceafill | and since both documents use the same layer structure, the column finds both | 16:56 |
th1a | It is just kind of oddly coded? | 16:56 |
replaceafill | well, since it's the first time we check multiple documents... | 16:57 |
replaceafill | i mean, we just hadn't seen it | 16:57 |
th1a | It just seems like a bug to me. | 16:57 |
replaceafill | what should the column do? | 16:58 |
th1a | I don't know why it is interested in Documents at all. | 16:58 |
th1a | Unless we also wanted to filter by Document. | 16:58 |
th1a | Which I don't even think we can do. | 16:58 |
replaceafill | right | 16:58 |
th1a | I think the fact that this cares about documents at all is a bug. | 16:58 |
replaceafill | it's this notion of hierarchy documents have | 16:59 |
th1a | That doesn't seem relevant to me. | 16:59 |
th1a | What things have these keywords and these layers. That's it. | 16:59 |
replaceafill | i'll check that part more carefully | 17:00 |
th1a | This may have been conceived of as a search within the document at some point. | 17:00 |
replaceafill | i just saw that it was happening there and pdb a little | 17:00 |
replaceafill | i'll try to "fix" it | 17:00 |
replaceafill | btw | 17:00 |
th1a | OK... don't assume there is a good reason at all to think about what document something is associated with. | 17:00 |
replaceafill | i tried to duplicate the layers | 17:01 |
replaceafill | to bypass this | 17:01 |
replaceafill | and that produced the right layers column | 17:01 |
replaceafill | but duplicated checkboxes :( | 17:01 |
replaceafill | Cluster | 17:01 |
replaceafill | Cluster | 17:01 |
replaceafill | Course | 17:01 |
replaceafill | Course | 17:01 |
replaceafill | etc | 17:01 |
replaceafill | but i guess the first option is the right one | 17:01 |
replaceafill | and we just have to fix the column | 17:02 |
th1a | I think there is just some tortured logic going on inside. | 17:02 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:02 |
replaceafill | second question | 17:02 |
replaceafill | (sorry for taking so much time...) | 17:02 |
th1a | I'm going to fall asleep. | 17:02 |
replaceafill | are we going to care about multi year equivalences th1a? | 17:02 |
replaceafill | i'm not even sure if we should discuss this... | 17:03 |
th1a | Yes, unfortunately. | 17:03 |
th1a | I don't really want to bring it up with Glenda until she asks about it. | 17:03 |
th1a | But it would be good to have the answer. | 17:03 |
th1a | I mean, it should be pretty straightforward aside from requiring a giant input, right? | 17:04 |
replaceafill | right | 17:04 |
th1a | Or maybe we can write another magical matching script. | 17:04 |
replaceafill | the input part is what makes it complicated imho | 17:04 |
replaceafill | i was thinking the same :) | 17:04 |
th1a | You're matching ID's? | 17:04 |
replaceafill | i mean, we're going to need to match somehow | 17:04 |
replaceafill | id's are different | 17:04 |
replaceafill | because include the year | 17:04 |
th1a | There's a pattern though, right? | 17:05 |
replaceafill | yes | 17:05 |
th1a | Let's use regex! | 17:05 |
th1a | :-D | 17:05 |
replaceafill | and an external id attribute | 17:05 |
replaceafill | which i'm not sure if it's the same | 17:05 |
th1a | OK, don't get too obsessed. We'll figure it out, but not right now. | 17:06 |
replaceafill | i think i should check both year XLS and give it some though | 17:06 |
replaceafill | sure | 17:06 |
replaceafill | ok | 17:06 |
replaceafill | i still have some pending issues: | 17:06 |
replaceafill | changed the visible option in course skills | 17:07 |
replaceafill | to use deprecated | 17:07 |
replaceafill | ah | 17:07 |
replaceafill | the gradebook ignores retired skills | 17:07 |
replaceafill | but not retired skillsets | 17:07 |
replaceafill | here we have some of a clash i guess | 17:07 |
replaceafill | since worksheets have this hidden attribute | 17:07 |
replaceafill | but we don't have UI to customize that | 17:08 |
replaceafill | so it's not a priority i guess | 17:08 |
replaceafill | but i'll see what i can do | 17:08 |
th1a | I'm not sure what you mean. What is happening from the user's perspective? | 17:08 |
replaceafill | they see the skillsets | 17:08 |
replaceafill | but they're all empty | 17:08 |
replaceafill | i mean in the gradebook | 17:08 |
th1a | That seems like a priority. | 17:09 |
th1a | Why is that happening? | 17:09 |
replaceafill | because the gradebook just checks if the worksheet is hidden | 17:09 |
replaceafill | not "retired" | 17:09 |
replaceafill | in this case worksheet = skillset | 17:10 |
replaceafill | so cando will need to check for both i guess | 17:10 |
replaceafill | tests are probably broken | 17:11 |
replaceafill | that's something i like to fix th1a | 17:11 |
replaceafill | ah and found a css color issue in /schoolyears/activate.html | 17:12 |
th1a | Yes, you can clean these things up. | 17:12 |
replaceafill | and yesterday while i was waiting for an import to finish, i checked: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1211613 | 17:12 |
th1a | Why are retired skillsets assigned at all? | 17:13 |
th1a | There is also a question from Chile in Spanish. | 17:13 |
replaceafill | th1a, this happened after you retire them | 17:13 |
replaceafill | ah damn, i forgot to reply to that | 17:14 |
replaceafill | he's asking if we could include the chilean score system in ST | 17:14 |
th1a | Is it strange in some way? | 17:14 |
replaceafill | i just need some "i have no idea" wording | 17:15 |
replaceafill | :) | 17:15 |
replaceafill | it's the kind of questions i don't like ;) | 17:15 |
replaceafill | "i don't think we can..." | 17:15 |
replaceafill | but i'll see what i CanDo! | 17:15 |
replaceafill | (lame joke) | 17:15 |
replaceafill | ok i'm done | 17:16 |
th1a | Does he want it preset so he can distribute it with that score system? | 17:16 |
replaceafill | yes | 17:16 |
replaceafill | so he doesn't have to set it up everytime i guess | 17:16 |
th1a | If he is serious about distributing SchoolTool in Chile we could make a package. | 17:16 |
th1a | Right? | 17:16 |
replaceafill | oh | 17:16 |
replaceafill | i can promise that? :) | 17:16 |
replaceafill | i was going the "it's not generic enough to be included" route | 17:17 |
th1a | Yes... but ask him to explain what his plans are. | 17:17 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 17:17 |
replaceafill | cool | 17:17 |
replaceafill | i will ask | 17:17 |
th1a | You also have to think of the marketing side, replaceafill. ;-) | 17:17 |
* replaceafill needs a customer support book ;) | 17:17 | |
replaceafill | :D | 17:17 |
th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 17:18 |
th1a | We want to encourage people interested in multiple schools. | 17:19 |
th1a | OK, yvl? | 17:20 |
yvl | hi :) | 17:20 |
yvl | I pushed security updates to trunks | 17:20 |
yvl | that fixes VA requirements except clerk/admin access to teacher reports | 17:21 |
yvl | then I got stuck on access to those reports | 17:21 |
th1a | I can imagine. | 17:22 |
yvl | ok | 17:22 |
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yvl | I'd like some input from you | 17:23 |
yvl | so we can either discuss a bit now | 17:23 |
yvl | or if you're sleepy, I can compose an email tomorrow morning | 17:23 |
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* yvl decided to work tomorrow | 17:23 | |
yvl | and we're on a similar timezone now :) | 17:23 |
replaceafill | (sorry, electricity failure) | 17:23 |
yvl | :| | 17:23 |
th1a | Go ahead. | 17:23 |
yvl | first, a minor thing | 17:24 |
yvl | School tab action links | 17:24 |
yvl | now clerks and admins see only Customize / skills | 17:24 |
yvl | and they can't actually edit them, but they can search | 17:24 |
th1a | Sounds right. | 17:25 |
th1a | I mean, notwithstanding the need for an overall reorganization of the page. | 17:25 |
yvl | right | 17:25 |
yvl | so there are other things they should have access to - maybe | 17:25 |
yvl | Import XLS? | 17:25 |
yvl | Report Card Layout? | 17:25 |
yvl | School Gradebook Archive? | 17:26 |
yvl | Resource Attributes? | 17:26 |
yvl | and so on | 17:26 |
th1a | Basically, we want to make the clerk relatively safe from someone mucking about. | 17:26 |
th1a | And we're kind of assuming real power users are both site managers and clerks. | 17:27 |
th1a | Report card layout is a tossup. | 17:27 |
yvl | true | 17:28 |
th1a | Import also. | 17:28 |
yvl | well, it would be nice to go through each of these links anyway | 17:28 |
th1a | Discuss them? | 17:28 |
yvl | well | 17:28 |
yvl | more you tell me who should be able to do what :) | 17:28 |
th1a | You mean "go through" as "discuss" not "follow link" | 17:29 |
yvl | yes | 17:29 |
yvl | sorry, /me is somewhat fuzzy for some reason | 17:29 |
th1a | If you have time yvl, perhaps we should let yvl go and then just hammer through it. | 17:30 |
th1a | Just let menesis go. | 17:30 |
th1a | I mean. | 17:30 |
th1a | It is fuzzy because I'm not sure how much the roles should overlap. | 17:30 |
* yvl too | 17:30 | |
th1a | As long as the default manager is both roles, we shouldn't need to overlap much. | 17:30 |
yvl | right | 17:31 |
yvl | I don't think I can add much value to discussion though | 17:31 |
th1a | The weird thing about making import for site manager only is generally he doesn't actually do the individual tasks. | 17:31 |
th1a | But it just seems kind of... site manager-y in terms of complexity. | 17:31 |
th1a | That is, site manager generally wouldn't add sections, etc. | 17:32 |
th1a | ok menesis? | 17:32 |
menesis | I have looked at older branches lying around | 17:33 |
menesis | like old skin cleanup | 17:33 |
menesis | found an unmerged gradebook branch updating it for journal-scoresystems rewrite | 17:34 |
menesis | noticed that journal tab was broken by journal rewrite | 17:35 |
menesis | for student | 17:35 |
menesis | fixed both the tab, and the view | 17:35 |
th1a | Ah. Thanks. | 17:35 |
menesis | although it is very basic.. | 17:35 |
menesis | while testing noticed the new autocomplete | 17:37 |
menesis | it gets in the way a little... | 17:37 |
menesis | replaceafill: I expected TAB would move to the next cell | 17:38 |
menesis | (to the right) | 17:38 |
menesis | like in spreadsheet | 17:38 |
replaceafill | ah right | 17:38 |
replaceafill | th1a told me to behave same as return | 17:39 |
th1a | Yes, I asked replaceafill about that | 17:39 |
replaceafill | imho the autocomplete should be a user preference maybe | 17:39 |
replaceafill | something you can disable | 17:40 |
th1a | Oh, I meant just that it should be like return insofar as it "works," not actually have the same affect. ;-) | 17:40 |
menesis | :) | 17:40 |
th1a | But yes, probably letting people disable it would be best. | 17:40 |
replaceafill | ah | 17:40 |
th1a | :-D | 17:40 |
replaceafill | i can make it move the right | 17:40 |
replaceafill | a la Calc | 17:40 |
th1a | Please. | 17:40 |
replaceafill | kk will do | 17:40 |
menesis | ok | 17:41 |
menesis | don't think I have anything else done | 17:41 |
replaceafill | menesis, i love how packages are now built from trunk btw :) | 17:42 |
th1a | Yes. Glad we can get changes to Glenda that way. | 17:42 |
menesis | a few packages copied or versions bumped here and there that I missed for the release | 17:42 |
* menesis done | 17:42 | |
th1a | Thanks menesis. | 17:43 |
th1a | OK, I guess I just need to keep yvl a little late. | 17:43 |
menesis | yes.. daily builds are very good for testing. should have done this last year. | 17:43 |
th1a | In the meantime, I'll catch you guys on Monday. I should be pretty settled and ready to rip by then. Also, the girls' school starts next Tuesday so I should be able to maintain focus for longer than I have in a while! | 17:44 |
* th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:44 | |
replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:44 |
yvl | thanks guys | 17:44 |
yvl | o | 17:45 |
yvl | ok | 17:45 |
yvl | so I realized, that it would be easiest if I made a small spreasheet of actions / permissions | 17:46 |
th1a | Yes, you could do that. | 17:46 |
yvl | doing :) | 17:48 |
th1a | OK. I'm going to focus on getting my iPhone on the network then. | 17:49 |
menesis | replaceafill: I have pushed the TAB change | 17:50 |
replaceafill | menesis, ah thanks! | 17:50 |
replaceafill | th1a, i know we have some more pressing stuff to deal with, but could i work on quiz a little next week? | 18:00 |
replaceafill | jelkner starts his set up on aug 30th | 18:00 |
replaceafill | for next year | 18:00 |
th1a | replaceafill: Yes. | 18:01 |
replaceafill | kk thanks | 18:01 |
replaceafill | ok, french time! | 18:01 |
replaceafill | see you later guys | 18:01 |
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yvl | hmm | 18:03 |
yvl | th1a, shared initial doc | 18:03 |
yvl | I guess I should also go through each link in sidebar | 18:03 |
yvl | and write down all items from there too | 18:03 |
yvl | but not today | 18:04 |
yvl | ok | 18:05 |
th1a | OK. | 18:05 |
yvl | so another thing | 18:05 |
yvl | report access | 18:06 |
yvl | thing is, we have Gradebook, Skills and Journal | 18:06 |
yvl | for each sectoin | 18:06 |
yvl | Gradebook is single | 18:06 |
yvl | CanDo expands to Projects and Skill Sets | 18:07 |
yvl | Journal expands to Attendance, Homeroom and Scores | 18:07 |
yvl | each of these 6 items is divided into "worksheets" | 18:07 |
yvl | and for each student, we have some links | 18:08 |
yvl | so | 18:08 |
yvl | we have | 18:08 |
yvl | Gradebook / Worksheet / Student: Score History | 18:09 |
yvl | Gradebook / Worksheet / Student: Report | 18:09 |
yvl | CanDo / Skill Sets / Skill Set / Student: Score History | 18:09 |
yvl | CanDo / Skill Sets / Skill Set / Student: Report (web page, leads to competency sertificate pdf's and so on) | 18:10 |
th1a | Yes... | 18:10 |
yvl | CanDo / Projects / Project / Student: Score History | 18:10 |
yvl | CanDo / Projects / Project / Student: Report | 18:10 |
yvl | and for Journal | 18:11 |
yvl | Journal / X: History | 18:11 |
yvl | where X - attendance / homeroom / scores | 18:11 |
th1a | What's your feeling about the whole thing? | 18:11 |
yvl | stuck | 18:11 |
yvl | dropdowns? tables? | 18:12 |
yvl | maybe add something | 18:12 |
yvl | in section view | 18:12 |
yvl | if you can't edit section | 18:12 |
yvl | i.e. if you can't get to editable gradebooks | 18:12 |
yvl | or frankly | 18:12 |
yvl | it would be best to just write read-only versions of all gradebooks | 18:13 |
th1a | That may be the right answer. | 18:13 |
th1a | Clerks may just need a search box as their landing page under those tabs. | 18:14 |
th1a | And read only views that have report links. | 18:14 |
th1a | Does that make sense? | 18:14 |
th1a | (it may not) | 18:14 |
yvl | uhm | 18:14 |
yvl | well | 18:15 |
yvl | there are two roads to take | 18:15 |
yvl | one is write read-only versions of gradebooks | 18:15 |
yvl | clerks would have to go to section, go to it's gradebook, click on student, click report - to get the report | 18:16 |
yvl | another | 18:16 |
yvl | is to write some search somewhere | 18:16 |
yvl | but I've no idea how to write one | 18:16 |
yvl | properly | 18:16 |
th1a | Well, say we have read-only section gradebooks. | 18:17 |
th1a | Clerk clicks on Gradebook. The only problem is we don't know which gradebook they want to see, right? | 18:17 |
yvl | ? | 18:17 |
yvl | no | 18:17 |
yvl | uhm | 18:18 |
yvl | the problem is that | 18:18 |
yvl | to switch to another student | 18:18 |
yvl | clerk first has to locate proper section of that student | 18:18 |
yvl | probably search student, expand his sections, click on some section, click on it's CanDo / Gradebook / Journal link in sidebar | 18:19 |
yvl | or he can search sections directly | 18:19 |
yvl | oh | 18:19 |
yvl | and when he's in the right gradebook, | 18:20 |
yvl | click on worksheet | 18:20 |
yvl | click on student's name | 18:20 |
yvl | click on report | 18:20 |
yvl | click on pdf in sidebar | 18:20 |
yvl | just realised something :) | 18:21 |
yvl | read-only gradebooks are easiest way to implement access to those reports | 18:21 |
yvl | but if we want search... | 18:21 |
yvl | basically, we should write separate search views for each report | 18:22 |
yvl | now Report Overview (the one that lists all reports) takes us to very root places | 18:22 |
yvl | all student reports takes to schooltool/people | 18:22 |
yvl | so... proper implementation would be | 18:23 |
yvl | say, you click on certificate of competency | 18:23 |
yvl | you get dropdowns of year, | 18:23 |
yvl | and search boxes for skill set and student | 18:24 |
yvl | ok, that would be a considerable amount of work | 18:24 |
yvl | ok, it's getting late | 18:25 |
yvl | any ideas? :) | 18:25 |
th1a | Well, there is a reason this hasn't happened already. | 18:26 |
yvl | true | 18:26 |
th1a | And it is kind of just a matter of "Well, what SHOULD a clerk see when he clicks this tab." | 18:26 |
th1a | In addition to generally trying to fix report selection entirely. | 18:27 |
th1a | So maybe we should limit the task to something reasonably useful and not confusing to sit under the tab. | 18:27 |
yvl | that would be good | 18:28 |
th1a | Like, search for which read-only gradebook you want to look at and thus ultimately run reports on. | 18:28 |
yvl | and that is the thing I'm stuck at ;) | 18:28 |
yvl | well, you can search for a section now | 18:29 |
th1a | Yeah, it isn't rocket science. | 18:29 |
yvl | so... we should just write read-only versions of gradebooks then | 18:30 |
yvl | this will also take some dev, btw | 18:30 |
yvl | they're kind of written with editable-only attitude | 18:30 |
th1a | Yes... | 18:30 |
th1a | It seems kind of inevitable. | 18:31 |
th1a | Well, hopefully it will be reusable across the gradebook views relatively easily. | 18:32 |
yvl | ... | 18:33 |
yvl | maybe... | 18:33 |
yvl | I wouldn't put too much hopes on that | 18:33 |
th1a | OK. I'm fried. | 18:33 |
th1a | I'll answer your permission questions later. | 18:33 |
yvl | ok | 18:33 |
yvl | I'll work on read-only gradebooks then | 18:34 |
th1a | Thanks yvl. | 18:34 |
yvl | thanks th1a | 18:34 |
th1a | I'm out. | 18:34 |
yvl | good luck settling in | 18:34 |
th1a | Thanks. | 18:34 |
yvl | and see you soon :) | 18:34 |
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