| replaceafill | nice that glenda has everything so handy to download :) | 00:02 |
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| * replaceafill is downloading verso skills 2013 | 00:02 | |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 17:16 |
| th1a | OK, just off the phone with David. | 17:16 |
| th1a | I was jumping a step ahead of them in the skills issue. | 17:16 |
| th1a | There are a few separate parts. | 17:16 |
| th1a | 1) The verso export script needs to create a new document for the new year. | 17:17 |
| th1a | So if you want to browse the document view, it works. | 17:17 |
| th1a | I think that is sufficient. | 17:17 |
| th1a | 1) make sense? | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:18 |
| th1a | 2) There may be an auto-match issue as I described, they haven't even actually gotten there yet. | 17:18 |
| th1a | 3) I think we need to add a "deprecated" flag to skills and keep those out of the assignment, etc. views. | 17:19 |
| th1a | I mean, I think that's the easiest way to hide the old versions from teachers when they're assigning skills manually. | 17:19 |
| th1a | That is, to hide last year's skills. | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:20 |
| th1a | That imposes the least changes to SchoolTool overall for their insane case. | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | skills have already a "retired" attribute | 17:21 |
| th1a | And then we'll just need to add the flag to the importer and you should literally be able to run last year's import sheet through with the deprecated column checked. | 17:21 |
| th1a | PERFECT. | 17:21 |
| th1a | We're SO SMART. | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:21 |
| th1a | Is that already incorporated in the views? | 17:21 |
| th1a | We probably need to add it to the import sheet. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK, we just need to fully implement it. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | and it's already in the spreadsheet | 17:22 |
| th1a | Good. | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:22 |
| th1a | I guess you should test/fix that today. | 17:23 |
| th1a | I need to look at the latest gradebook menu version still. | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | for 1) | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | should we ask the user some input when running the script? | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | the document is set to: | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | cte -> id, Virginia CTE -> title | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | i guess we need something like "cte_2013", "Virginia CTE 2013" | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | right? | 17:25 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll work on these, hiding is going to be fun :) | 17:26 |
| th1a | Bad fun or good fun. | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | good fun ;) | 17:26 |
| th1a | OK. Also... we have some timely report feedback from Thailand. | 17:27 |
| th1a | Breaking some of our layouts, which is good. | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | did they send you the pdf or screenshots? | 17:28 |
| th1a | Did somebody do the first/last split in the gradebook? | 17:28 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | you mean the "continued in next page"? | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | you mean the first name, last name | 17:28 |
| th1a | No, remember we were talking about sorting by first name? | 17:29 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | at least i don't see it in trunk | 17:29 |
| th1a | OK, so after the CanDo stuff, let's try to buckle down on these Thailand issues I'm sending. | 17:29 |
| th1a | Some of them may be fixed/irrelevant in the new version. | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:30 |
| th1a | I'm just going to pass it to you for the moment given my insanity here. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | ok :) | 17:30 |
| th1a | So the new menu is smaller but still white/green right? | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | oh | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | you actually wanted it the same color of the popups? | 17:32 |
| th1a | I was curious. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | i can change that quickly | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | give me a min | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | th1a, refresh | 17:36 |
| th1a | I like that a little better. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | me 2 :) | 17:36 |
| th1a | It doesn't blend in as much. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | good call | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:36 |
| th1a | OK. cool. DONE! | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | great! | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | i'll merge it | 17:36 |
| th1a | OK, I'll write an email to Welsh/Glenda. | 17:38 |
| th1a | replaceafill: We may need to retire skillsets. | 17:46 |
| th1a | If that's what is being matched. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | yeah, i was thinking the same | 17:47 |
| th1a | btw, does the gradebook autocomplete work in CanDo? | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | i have branches for cando and the journal | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | i didn't set those up though | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | i mean in the vps | 17:51 |
| th1a | You should do that after you check them into trunk. | 17:52 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | yes th1a | 18:44 |
| th1a | Welsh is also having some problem with associating skills to courses manually, but you should probably sort out the other stuff first. | 18:44 |
| th1a | And then test that process yourself. | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | did he send an email about it? | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | my yahoo is pretty slow lately | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | (or thunderbird... don't know) | 18:46 |
| th1a | No, it is mentioned at the end of the new google doc. | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | wow dwelsh writes fast :D | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | i check that doc early this morning and it was only half a page | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | checked | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | th1a, refresh the autocomplete instance | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | i just loaded some skills | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | and enabled the journal | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | skills are for barbering 1 though ;) | 18:51 |
| th1a | Nice. I like it. | 18:51 |
| th1a | Ooh... can you make tab work? | 18:52 |
| replaceafill | similar to return? | 18:52 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:02 |
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| replaceafill | ah ok | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | glad to see the Manjaro user solved his problem :) | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you around? | 19:46 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | hey th1a i finished 1) | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | question | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | what should we call the input | 20:25 |
| replaceafill | i used "postfix" :S | 20:25 |
| replaceafill | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~replaceafill/schooltool.virginia/getverso_fix/revision/142 | 20:25 |
| replaceafill | i'm running it in the vps right now | 20:25 |
| replaceafill | getverso.py --postfix 2013 | 20:26 |
| th1a | The year? | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:26 |
| th1a | Did you read Glenda's last email? | 20:26 |
| th1a | About Lee trying to change the title? | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | but they missed the ids | 20:27 |
| th1a | OK. | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | i tried what they did (but correctly) and it works | 20:27 |
| th1a | OK. You just can't take my explanations of what the developers are going to do too literally. ;-) | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | ? | 20:28 |
| th1a | I mean, they did. | 20:29 |
| replaceafill | ah | 20:29 |
| replaceafill | :D | 20:29 |
| replaceafill | yes, i noticed your "you probably shouldn't take me literally when I tell you how simple something is" | 20:29 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:29 |
| replaceafill | the script should spit the right spreadsheet for 2013 | 20:30 |
| th1a | Cool. | 20:30 |
| replaceafill | they'll still need to set all the retired column in the 2012 though | 20:30 |
| replaceafill | i'm now adding retired for skillsets and modifying the importer | 20:31 |
| th1a | OK. | 20:33 |
| th1a | Yeah, I don't see any way around it. | 20:33 |
| th1a | They just have an incredibly complicated use case. | 20:33 |
| th1a | Which is why they needed their own application... | 20:33 |
| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 20:58 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 20:59 |
| th1a | Let me forward these Thai emails to you to discuss my response before I send it. | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | ok | 21:00 |
| th1a | Shit! I ended up deleting my response in the process. | 21:02 |
| replaceafill | i don't see the attachments | 21:03 |
| replaceafill | ah never mind | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | just got the second email | 21:04 |
| th1a | Do you have the attachments? | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | just the screenshot of the gradebook and the xls | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | not pdfs | 21:06 |
| th1a | Tried again... | 21:07 |
| replaceafill | yes, i got them now | 21:07 |
| replaceafill | the export xls is definitely weird (order-wise) | 21:08 |
| th1a | OK, so here's 1 thing I'm thinking: | 21:08 |
| th1a | Yes, straighten the orders out. | 21:08 |
| replaceafill | kk | 21:09 |
| th1a | Alan is terrible with orders. I could never remember that he had to be told that stuff. | 21:09 |
| th1a | Anyhow. | 21:09 |
| th1a | The diagonal layout only works up to a point, which is something we've known but not really dealt with. | 21:10 |
| th1a | So rather than trying to be too clever about trying to guess the best way to lay something out, I think we should just give two choices in these cases. | 21:10 |
| th1a | 1) Title or label in the header; | 21:10 |
| th1a | 2) Diagonal or vertical. | 21:11 |
| replaceafill | in the request dialog? | 21:11 |
| th1a | So basically if it doesn't fit diagonal/title, you can just retry with label and/or vertical. | 21:11 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 21:11 |
| replaceafill | got it | 21:11 |
| th1a | And I'll just ask about the attendance detail thing. We're obviously not really optimized for the missing one period a day the whole term situation. | 21:12 |
| replaceafill | you had a 3rd email? | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | about attendance? | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | a | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | h | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | got it | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | didn't read the second one closely, just focused on the attachments :D | 21:14 |
| th1a | y | 21:14 |
| replaceafill | lol | 21:37 |
| replaceafill | very scattered.... | 21:38 |
| replaceafill | ok, time for lunch, bb in ~40m | 21:40 |
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