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| th1a | hi replaceafill, yvl, menesis. | 16:31 |
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| yvl | good morning | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:31 |
| menesis | hi | 16:32 |
| th1a | replaceafill: I assigned a contacts bug to you yesterday. | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes i saw it and tested it | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | (since you marked it as critical) :) | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | now i wonder | 16:33 |
| th1a | Yes... it seemed to me self contacts are completely bugged. | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | did we ever displayed the contact info for a person in the person view? | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | well, the info is stored | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | it's just not displayed i think | 16:33 |
| th1a | Something is horribly wrong. | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | i honestly can't remember if we displayed the self-contact info in the person index view | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | in any case | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | should it go under the Contacts accordion? | 16:35 |
| th1a | You're just asking if it was always a bug or a regression. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | right, it just seems strange that we missed it | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | but again, data should be there, just not shown | 16:36 |
| th1a | I would probably put it there but it could go under person info in that case if someone wants to argue for it. | 16:36 |
| th1a | It isn't showing up as a contact at all. | 16:36 |
| th1a | This would be a fairly typical Alan/Tom bug, with him omitting something that I wouldn't check for because it seems obvious to me. | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | so, under General Information after Demographis and ohter personal data | 16:37 |
| th1a | I'm saying, I'd put it under contacts unless someone wants to push for putting it in General Information. | 16:38 |
| th1a | Where do you think it goes? | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:38 |
| th1a | Either is plausible. | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | to me, it seems more general information | 16:38 |
| th1a | Well... | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | Contacts sounds like contacts FOR the person | 16:38 |
| th1a | Probably it would have to go in both places if you want it in general information, because it definitely needs to be under contacts unless you want a conceptual mess. | 16:39 |
| th1a | We'd better keep it in contacts for that reason. | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | cool, i'll work on that | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | can i go on with my report? | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | i have a couple of questions | 16:40 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | ok, first | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | the school logo in pdf | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | th1a asked the report card to have the logo | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | under the school name | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | my question here is: are we going to use the logo in ALL pdfs from now on? | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | in other words | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | should i make that change to the global report template? | 16:40 |
| th1a | I'd say yes. | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | ah ok, thanks | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | and my second question is for yvl | 16:42 |
| yvl | listening | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | yvl, if i want the "continued ..." functionality, like the one we have in the printable worksheet | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | do i have to use a grid for that? | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | the report card could have several columns | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | and it should flow to the following pages | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | basically, i'm trying to understand how to move something from one page and be continued to the next one | 16:43 |
| yvl | with pto's you mean? | 16:44 |
| yvl | usually one has to write his own | 16:45 |
| yvl | (if continued ... on vertical split) | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | oh, i need to replicate what's done in the grid template | 16:45 |
| yvl | but if you want horizontal split... either use grid, or implement your own | 16:46 |
| yvl | it's somewhat trickier | 16:46 |
| yvl | course/browser/rml/section_roster.pt is a good reference for vertical splits | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | yes, i started with a manual rml template and got stuck on how to continue to the next page | 16:47 |
| th1a | We can't have horiztontal splits in the report card. | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | pto_trailer | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | th1a, should we assume there are not going to be lots of items (former columns/activities)? | 16:48 |
| th1a | Pretty much... if you need a very specialized report, that's a custom job. | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | in the current view (not styled) the tables are split | 16:49 |
| th1a | We could allow landscape formatting, but that's not an immediate priority. | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | got it | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | ah, good point | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | kk, i'll let it go then and focus on the logo | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | that's the only part left | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | let me check my notes... | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | nope that's it | 16:50 |
| * replaceafill done | 16:50 | |
| th1a | Report card is something that we can iterate on forever. | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | boy i never understand my notes in the morning | 16:51 |
| yvl | :D | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i tried yesterday using the acc data.fs with the celery branch | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | and got the catalog issue again | 16:51 |
| yvl | did you try it on a fresh checkout with latest celery changes? | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | yvl, yes, well, my branch merged with your latest | 16:52 |
| yvl | can you pass me acc data.fs at some point? | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | i can try just yours | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | sure, i'll put it in your /home in the vps | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | now i'm done | 16:53 |
| th1a | OK, thanks replaceafill. | 16:53 |
| yvl | can you also send me IP? | 16:53 |
| yvl | it's been a while since I last logged in | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i already sent it, but np | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | i'll send it again | 16:54 |
| yvl | thanks! | 16:54 |
| th1a | OK. Go ahead yvl. | 16:55 |
| yvl | well, not much to say | 16:55 |
| yvl | starting to wrap up the remote exports | 16:55 |
| yvl | it looks that I'll be done this week | 16:56 |
| * yvl done | 16:57 | |
| yvl | oh | 16:57 |
| yvl | had a random chat today | 16:57 |
| yvl | I think we should add a feature at some point | 16:57 |
| yvl | after we do messaging / news feed | 16:57 |
| yvl | when session is about to expire, ask user if he wants to continue working | 16:58 |
| yvl | random redirects to login screen are (still) driving me nuts | 16:58 |
| th1a | Oh, it is a real issue. | 16:58 |
| th1a | What should we do? | 16:58 |
| th1a | I guess that's one I haven't prioritized because I just don't know what we're supposed to be doing. | 16:59 |
| yvl | well, e-banking and such | 16:59 |
| yvl | just do a pop-up | 16:59 |
| yvl | "You've been idle for too long and are about to be logged out" | 16:59 |
| yvl | "Time remaining: 90 seconds" | 17:00 |
| yvl | [Keep Working] [Log Out] | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | yvl, vps/database info sent | 17:00 |
| yvl | then again, pop-ups are a bit intrusive | 17:00 |
| yvl | so... | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | i've seen some systems telling me my session just expired and asking me to log in back | 17:00 |
| yvl | in my opinion, the nicest thing to do | 17:01 |
| yvl | is to add something looking like a tooltip near your username | 17:01 |
| yvl | it should function like Ubuntu message popups in top right | 17:01 |
| th1a | That's probably too subtle. | 17:01 |
| yvl | maybe | 17:02 |
| * yvl just hates to be slapped in the face with faded out screen and a pop-up | 17:02 | |
| yvl | ARE YOU THERE? | 17:02 |
| yvl | DO YOU WANT TO WORK FURTHER | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:02 |
| yvl | dammit, I'm reading people! | 17:02 |
| yvl | again - just my preferences | 17:03 |
| th1a | Well... I'd say our bigger problem at this point is that AFTER you've been logged out, it would be nice to just overlay a modal that takes you straight back to work after you enter your password. | 17:03 |
| th1a | How tough would that be? | 17:03 |
| yvl | same as implementing a tooltip | 17:04 |
| yvl | in any case, we should do this after the messaging / feed | 17:04 |
| yvl | I could reuse some of that | 17:04 |
| th1a | Well... a tooltip with serious security implications. | 17:04 |
| yvl | huh? | 17:05 |
| yvl | it's just a notification on what is happening anyway | 17:05 |
| th1a | What I'm saying is that I'm more worried about making the "log back in" step smooth. | 17:05 |
| yvl | there's no difference in clicking a tooltip or clicking a link in page to refresh your session | 17:05 |
| yvl | but yes, login dialog in popup after being logged out would be great | 17:06 |
| th1a | I suspect the "you're going to be logged out" step isn't going to help much, since you have to be looking at the page to see it. | 17:06 |
| yvl | true | 17:06 |
| yvl | but you can be looking at the page and not realizing when you get logged out | 17:07 |
| th1a | Yes... | 17:07 |
| th1a | I'm saying the "you've been logged out" step is more useful than the "you're going to be logged out" one. | 17:08 |
| * yvl agrees | 17:08 | |
| th1a | So... technically how would this work. Is this another querying bottle issue? | 17:08 |
| yvl | it depends | 17:08 |
| yvl | one way is to find where to cut off the zope's publication to query for a session expiration time without refreshing it | 17:09 |
| yvl | and have javascript in page that queries if session is prolonged | 17:10 |
| yvl | when it thinks it could be expired | 17:10 |
| yvl | if session is expired, slam the login popup | 17:10 |
| yvl | this will somewhat increase load on zope threads, for each tab open anywhere | 17:10 |
| yvl | (browser tab) | 17:11 |
| yvl | another way is to do the same, but put through bottle | 17:11 |
| yvl | this way we can query much more often | 17:11 |
| yvl | and even do long polling if we want | 17:11 |
| yvl | but that needs session notifications to probably redis | 17:12 |
| yvl | then again, we will need that for other stuff | 17:12 |
| th1a | OK, so this is fairly involved either way, but something to definitely address. | 17:12 |
| th1a | Good to get in the next release. | 17:12 |
| yvl | true | 17:12 |
| yvl | definitely not NOW | 17:13 |
| * yvl done. | 17:14 | |
| th1a | OK, thanks yvl. | 17:14 |
| th1a | menesis? | 17:14 |
| menesis | I have finally merged the celery branches | 17:15 |
| menesis | i.e. taken flourish, merged my and justas celery branches | 17:15 |
| menesis | and also replaceafill's | 17:15 |
| menesis | the result is in https://code.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/trunk | 17:16 |
| menesis | I suggest you to pull it | 17:16 |
| menesis | into your working branch | 17:16 |
| menesis | and continue there | 17:16 |
| menesis | it has all the fixes needed to work on raring | 17:16 |
| menesis | i.e. newer libxml2 and redis-server, also the fix for z3c.rml 2.0.0 | 17:17 |
| yvl | woot! | 17:18 |
| menesis | so, the new development series is named "trunk" | 17:18 |
| menesis | or 2.5 | 17:18 |
| menesis | because it has major change with the supervisor | 17:18 |
| menesis | flourish will stay at 2.4 | 17:19 |
| menesis | so, I've done these changes on launchpad, the ftp.schooltool.org | 17:19 |
| menesis | and merged yvl's and replaceafill's celery branches of both schooltool and gradebook | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | menesis, do you plan to manage cando/virginia the same? | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | i mean, two different series | 17:20 |
| menesis | yes, new series for each schooltool release | 17:22 |
| menesis | unless they are compatible | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | ah ok, i have celery branches for both (cando and virginia) with several changes | 17:22 |
| menesis | cando/virginia already have 0.4 series for schooltool 2.3 | 17:22 |
| menesis | but that means little since no one is using that release | 17:23 |
| th1a | menesis: I got... | 17:23 |
| th1a | Setting up libjpeg-dev (8c-2ubuntu7) ... | 17:23 |
| th1a | redis-server | 17:23 |
| th1a | make: redis-server: Command not found | 17:23 |
| th1a | make: *** [ubuntu-environment] Error 127 | 17:23 |
| menesis | make ubuntu-environment | 17:24 |
| menesis | will now install redis-server | 17:24 |
| menesis | it is an external dependency | 17:24 |
| menesis | and written in something else, not python | 17:25 |
| th1a | Yes... but why did I get an error? | 17:25 |
| menesis | oh, right | 17:26 |
| th1a | Ah. | 17:26 |
| menesis | it is on a new line | 17:26 |
| menesis | missing \ at the end of previous one | 17:26 |
| menesis | I have solved that conflict too many times to check again :/ | 17:27 |
| menesis | other than the merges, I had a look at the schooltool.org server situation | 17:29 |
| menesis | nothing has changed yet | 17:29 |
| menesis | most of the things are on the new server | 17:29 |
| menesis | but it's not so easy to check until the DNS changes for real | 17:29 |
| th1a | It is still pending according to WHOIS, but I don't think there is anything else for us or the Foundation to do. | 17:30 |
| menesis | you have transferred to another registrar that you can control? | 17:32 |
| th1a | I've submitted it to my registrar and the Foundation approved it on their end. | 17:32 |
| menesis | ok | 17:33 |
| th1a | whois says the status is PENDING TRANSFER | 17:33 |
| menesis | after the transfer you will change the IP address yourself | 17:34 |
| menesis | ok, waiting | 17:34 |
| menesis | one thing I noticed is that the old lists archive is not copied | 17:34 |
| menesis | to the new server | 17:34 |
| menesis | I'm not going to transfer svn repository or cando trac | 17:35 |
| menesis | ok? | 17:35 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:36 |
| * th1a is googling PENDING TRANSFER... | 17:37 | |
| * menesis done | 17:38 | |
| th1a | OK. Thanks menesis. | 17:38 |
| th1a | Let's plan on a hangout/walkthrough on reports for Monday, regular time. | 17:38 |
| * replaceafill will set up the instance for monday | 17:39 | |
| th1a | menesis: I guess I need to know what dns records to add when the switch happens. | 17:40 |
| th1a | It is www and... ? Anything else? | 17:40 |
| th1a | Can you email me the new IP? | 17:40 |
| th1a | etc | 17:41 |
| menesis | book, ftp, source, issues, lists... | 17:41 |
| menesis | but I guess you'll get all of them transferred | 17:41 |
| menesis | will only need to change the IP | 17:41 |
| menesis | will send in email | 17:41 |
| th1a | I think I'll just have to set it up. | 17:41 |
| th1a | OK, cool. | 17:41 |
| th1a | We'll probably suddenly go down when the tranfer goes through, but oh well. | 17:42 |
| menesis | no | 17:42 |
| menesis | I think all the records will be transferred | 17:42 |
| th1a | OK, we'll see. | 17:43 |
| th1a | Thanks guys, have a good week/end. | 17:44 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:44 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:45 |
| yvl | thanks guys | 17:45 |
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