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| replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 16:32 |
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| th1a | y | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | are we hanging out? | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | or just chat? | 16:33 |
| th1a | Let's just chat for the moment. | 16:33 |
| th1a | I'm feeling a little flustered. | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:33 |
| th1a | Getting the girls ready for school on a cold morning is a pain. | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | do you want us to talk later? | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | i'm meeting jelkner & co. at 3:20 pm | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | we could talk before that if you want | 16:34 |
| th1a | No, this is fine. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:35 |
| th1a | You should mail Welsh about IEP. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | i finished /home/aelkner backup | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | i'm on /home/replaceafill now | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | after that i'll set 12.10 | 16:36 |
| th1a | Ah, ok. | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | give me a minute to answer David | 16:37 |
| th1a | Do you want to talk briefly about updating the reports for per skill score systems? | 16:37 |
| th1a | ok | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | done | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | i told him it will be up tomorrow | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | per skill score systems... | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | i haven't checked aelkner's changes yet on that | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | all of our cando reports are in schooltool.virginia | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | maybe this would be a good time to move some around, don't you think? | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | putting generic enough stuff in schooltool.cando | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | like the section summary report | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | or is that too much? | 16:43 |
| th1a | I don't what that textual abomination in SchoolTool. | 16:44 |
| th1a | Otherwise, we do want everything else. | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | textual abomination!?!?! | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | i meant the one with the svg charts ;) | 16:44 |
| th1a | The giant table of numbers. | 16:44 |
| th1a | I don't want that. | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | everything stays in schooltool.virginia then :) | 16:45 |
| th1a | No. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Everything but the giant table of numbers. | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | :D | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | you really don't like that report! | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | anyway | 16:45 |
| th1a | It is a nightmare. | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | i'm looking at the reference page | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | report reference* | 16:46 |
| th1a | So basically, for aelkner's changes, there will have to be multiple fields to set the passing scores if multiple score systems are used within a single section. | 16:47 |
| th1a | This will be a little awkward if you do have that case, but it is more or less an edge case. | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:48 |
| th1a | And in general the report will have to check for each skill's score system, I guess. | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | how do we change the filters in the report views | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | to use different scoresystems? | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | the "multiple fields" part of your previous paragraph | 16:50 |
| th1a | I think there will just have to be multiple selectors, one for each score system used. | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | let's assume the Section Summary report (svg charts) | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | we have: | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | Passing Score: | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | - Competent | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | ... | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | etc | 16:53 |
| th1a | Also | 16:53 |
| th1a | Passing Score: | 16:53 |
| th1a | Satisfactory | 16:53 |
| th1a | Progressing... | 16:54 |
| th1a | Or | 16:54 |
| th1a | Passing Score | 16:54 |
| th1a | A | 16:54 |
| th1a | B | 16:54 |
| th1a | C | 16:54 |
| th1a | D | 16:54 |
| th1a | F | 16:54 |
| th1a | Just multiple selectors in a stack. | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | basically, several Passing Score dropdowns | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | maybe just one Passing Score group | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | but several dropdowns below | 16:54 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:54 |
| th1a | If necessary. | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | do they need to update the report "ajaxy" | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | ? | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | i mean | 16:55 |
| th1a | This could become unwieldy in extreme cases, but they're... extreme. | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | on every change | 16:55 |
| th1a | It does now, right? | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | we keep that | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | ? | 16:55 |
| th1a | It would be desirable. | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | i guess if we consider it a extreme case, then it's ok | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | do we "sniff" the score systems used? | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | or do we list everything under /scoresystems? | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | maybe i'm using just one type of scoresystem | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | when i've defined 2 or 3 | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | (maybe aelkner's change already deals with this?) | 16:57 |
| th1a | Sniff. | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | kk | 16:59 |
| th1a | I'd think. | 16:59 |
| th1a | I don't know the technical details. | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | passing target stays the same right? | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | since it's a % | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | i mean, in the section summary report | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | what about score colors? | 17:00 |
| th1a | I think everything else can stay the same. | 17:00 |
| th1a | Well, the scale of score colors will have to be calculated and displayed separately, I guess. | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | ouch | 17:01 |
| th1a | But they don't need to be, you know, entirely different colors. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Yeah... | 17:01 |
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| replaceafill | that sounds difficult :( | 17:01 |
| th1a | I didn't see any way around doing it this way. | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | i cannot even see the scale of colors :( | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | so we have 2 score systems | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | expert-uniformed and A-F | 17:03 |
| th1a | Cannot see? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | picture it in my head :) | 17:04 |
| th1a | Imagine? | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:04 |
| th1a | Just stacked. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | no, i mean in the chart | 17:04 |
| th1a | Hrm... | 17:04 |
| th1a | Well, | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | suppose you have 4 scales in one score system and 7 in the other | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | even if you interpolate from the same start-end | 17:04 |
| th1a | Oh... | 17:05 |
| th1a | Wait, are we doing this per student or per skill? | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | per student | 17:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:05 |
| th1a | I have a phone call. | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:05 |
| th1a | OK... | 18:04 |
| th1a | SOrry. | 18:04 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | np | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | i'm trying to understand how to "split" the chart | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | when several scores are used | 18:05 |
| th1a | OK, so if it is per student, I think if there is more than one score system, you just get pass/fail and no intermediate gradations. | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | that's way easier :D | 18:06 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | if we "sniff" just one score system, we use the current approach | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | right? | 18:06 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | cool | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | the rest is the same | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | i think | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | i mean, the rest of the reports | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | that use filters | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | although... | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | are we changing the VA specific reports? | 18:08 |
| th1a | I don't think we need to know. | 18:08 |
| th1a | now | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:08 |
| th1a | This would be something I'd like to have in the April release but not deploy in VA until next fall. | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | got it | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | ok, should i start with this one? | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | or do you want to discuss the rest? | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | va section report - stays the same | 18:11 |
| th1a | No, that's plenty for now. | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | completion reports - stay the same | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | true | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | we're meeting tomorrow, right? | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | at some point i want your opinion on quizzes :) | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | it seems like it'll become part of the "standard" app? | 18:12 |
| th1a | Yes, we're meeting, and yes, we are going to assimilate quiz. | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | cool, i'll ask you about it tomorrow then | 18:13 |
| th1a | ok | 18:13 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 18:13 |
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| aelkner | hey th1a, shall we hangout? | 21:59 |
| th1a | Let me grab a soda. | 22:01 |
| replaceafill | as usual, jelkner found a weird bug in cando :D | 22:51 |
| th1a | Somebody has to. | 23:02 |
| replaceafill | it's about multiterm sections i think | 23:03 |
| replaceafill | when you have term1-term4 | 23:03 |
| replaceafill | and you enroll a student in the term2 section | 23:03 |
| replaceafill | the gradebook produces an error about the student not being enrolled in the section :/ | 23:04 |
| replaceafill | the cando gradebook* | 23:04 |
| th1a | Do you understand what is causing it? | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | not really, but i'm checking the code | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | ah! | 23:12 |
| replaceafill | it's the "show previous score" feature | 23:12 |
| replaceafill | getScore raises an exception when checking grades | 23:14 |
| replaceafill | getPreviousScore should be able to handle the exception | 23:14 |
| th1a | Ah. | 23:21 |
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