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| th1a | hi replaceafill, aelkner, yvl. | 16:31 |
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| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:31 |
| yvl | good morning | 16:31 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:32 |
| th1a | OK... aelkner, you've got the new script working for VA CTE? | 16:33 |
| aelkner | Lee ran it, and next Glenda will prove that it succesfully reimports into her demo instance | 16:34 |
| aelkner | after that, we need to publish it as the current verso_skills.xls | 16:35 |
| aelkner | then i need to change the script to match on skillset id rather than download order | 16:35 |
| aelkner | then we can hand them that version and they can run it any time without our intervention | 16:35 |
| aelkner | so i'm going to call them today after glenda has tried the reimport to discuss the status | 16:36 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:37 |
| aelkner | in the meantime, i started looking at changing the Search tab view | 16:37 |
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| aelkner | i had a question: if we get rid of SkillSets tab, we need to add a SkillSet link to the Add menu | 16:38 |
| th1a | Is that a question? | 16:38 |
| aelkner | well, no, i guess it's a statement awaiting confirmation | 16:39 |
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| th1a | Where? | 16:39 |
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| aelkner | Search is really the index.html view of INodeContainer | 16:39 |
| aelkner | so that why the Add Node link is obvious | 16:40 |
| aelkner | we're changing that view to show skillsets and skills | 16:40 |
| th1a | Actually, you can't really add skills through the web right now without a document. | 16:40 |
| aelkner | well, now we can, but after we reove the SkillSets tab, we won't | 16:40 |
| th1a | Lets just make users use documents for now. | 16:41 |
| * menesis hello world | 16:41 | |
| th1a | If they want to add through the web. | 16:41 |
| th1a | hi menesis. | 16:41 |
| aelkner | should we get rid of the Add Node link from the Search view? | 16:41 |
| th1a | Sure. | 16:42 |
| aelkner | ok, then it would be consistent | 16:42 |
| th1a | I doubt anyone will squawk. | 16:42 |
| aelkner | ok, that's it for me then | 16:43 |
| th1a | OK, so you're going to finish up: | 16:44 |
| th1a | searching including skills and skillsets and | 16:44 |
| th1a | well, including them in sort, etc. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Then you're ready for reports. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Right? | 16:45 |
| aelkner | btw, how should the mixed search results of nodes, skillsets and skills sort? | 16:45 |
| aelkner | by label? that has a different meaning between the different object types | 16:46 |
| th1a | In what sense? | 16:46 |
| aelkner | i mean that sorting by label is not really a meaningful sort | 16:47 |
| aelkner | nodes, skillsets and skills will still be interwoven, even if they label is sorted | 16:47 |
| th1a | That's kind of by definition what happens when you sort. | 16:48 |
| th1a | We will need a type field to let you sort by type as well. | 16:48 |
| th1a | I guess... | 16:49 |
| th1a | Yeah, we probably should. | 16:49 |
| aelkner | right now the Search view list only nodes | 16:49 |
| aelkner | and the columns are: | 16:49 |
| aelkner | Label, Title (sortable), Layers | 16:49 |
| aelkner | nodes can have more than one layer, of course | 16:49 |
| aelkner | skillsets and skills have no layer | 16:49 |
| aelkner | but we are changing the view to pretend that there are SkillSet and Skill layers | 16:50 |
| aelkner | and that their checkboxes may look like: | 16:50 |
| aelkner | _ SkillSets (DuryArea, Compentency Group) | 16:50 |
| aelkner | _ Skills (Task, Competency) | 16:51 |
| aelkner | where the things in paraentheses are actual Layer objects | 16:51 |
| th1a | It is just like if you list the contents of a folder it sorts different kinds of files alphabetically. | 16:51 |
| th1a | Or by size... | 16:51 |
| th1a | or by type. | 16:51 |
| aelkner | so, should the column still be titled, Layers? | 16:51 |
| aelkner | and we just put SkillSets of Skill there? | 16:52 |
| aelkner | SkillSet, i mean | 16:52 |
| th1a | Sure. | 16:52 |
| aelkner | should that be the left-most column, then Label, Title | 16:52 |
| aelkner | and hve it sort by Layers, subsort Label? | 16:52 |
| aelkner | btw, you understand i'm making a new table for INodesContainer for this one view only | 16:53 |
| aelkner | in the document views, we will be using the current NodesTable | 16:53 |
| th1a | I'd put layers last (at right) and sort by label. | 16:54 |
| aelkner | which has only nodes in it, of course | 16:54 |
| aelkner | ok, change nothing in the order of columns, just change it to sort by Label | 16:54 |
| aelkner | btw, the standard NodesTable as well as the SkillSets and Skills tables don't sort by Label | 16:55 |
| aelkner | i guess i should change those as well | 16:55 |
| th1a | YES. | 16:55 |
| aelkner | ok, one last thing, we need to change the cando gradebook to sort the solumns by label | 16:55 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Do you want to do that? | 16:56 |
| aelkner | i was going to suggest that he handle that as he is closer to that view at this point | 16:57 |
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| aelkner | that's it, if replaceafill_ has to do it, he quits :) | 16:58 |
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| replaceafill | (sorry, i got disconnected) :( | 16:58 |
| th1a | replaceafill: we need to change the cando gradebook to sort the solumns by label | 17:00 |
| th1a | Can you do that? | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | sure | 17:00 |
| aelkner | ok, anyway, after i fix the Search view and change the tables to sort by Label | 17:01 |
| aelkner | i will still have the scoresystems branch to merge | 17:01 |
| aelkner | as soon as you feel that we wat to | 17:02 |
| aelkner | want | 17:02 |
| th1a | We're going to do that after the reports, which we want to get to asap. | 17:02 |
| aelkner | ok, well then i'll do that as the next thing | 17:03 |
| aelkner | anyway, that's it for me | 17:03 |
| th1a | Thanks aelkner. | 17:03 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | last week i finished the virginia completion reports | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | asked dwelsh for feedback | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | he liked the Location filter | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | he gave some performance feedback too | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | also | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | th1a and i worked on report descriptions | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | updated the overview page a little | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | i noticed that we have several open questions | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | in LP i mean | 17:06 |
| th1a | I'll take a look. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | i took a little time to help here: https://answers.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/211561 | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | we also updated the homepage | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | i created a branch which should be the official one | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | lp:~schooltool-owners/schooltool/schooltool-homepage | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | and at the end of the week | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | glenda reported an issue with a user not able to see the Sections accordions right | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | i was confused for a while until IE was mentioned :| | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | it seems there's a site in the pilot that is using IE to access CanDo | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | so i looked for a way to install IE | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | found that there are some VMs available for download | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | from IE6-IE9 | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | SchoolTool seems mostly broken in IE7-IE8 | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | IE9 is way smarter :) | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | but even if the person index view breaks (because of JS) | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | you can still see the jstree widget with the teachers sections | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | so i don't understand glenda's issue | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | i ended the week looking for a way to run an automated test in IE | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | kind of like selenium IDE | 17:12 |
| th1a | Is there any reason having the user send the actual source of the page might help? | 17:13 |
| th1a | Like if something isn't loading? | 17:13 |
| th1a | Could a viewlet be timing out or something? | 17:13 |
| yvl | replaceafill, did you try using selenium with IE? | 17:13 |
| * th1a is grasping at straws. | 17:13 | |
| th1a | I think we have to get this person to try with some other browser to confirm that's the issue. | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i downloaded the IE webdriver, but haven't done anything with it yet | 17:14 |
| yvl | ah, ok | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i think the user will | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | according to glenda's last email | 17:14 |
| th1a | So basically we haven't been able to reproduce? | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:15 |
| th1a | I'm not sure I want to throw resources in to Selenium IE right now. | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | me neither | 17:15 |
| th1a | esp. if we can't reproduce the problem manually. | 17:15 |
| th1a | It may be something really strange. | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | so, should i stop on IE testing? | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | and move on? | 17:16 |
| th1a | Well, I'd say we need more data. | 17:17 |
| th1a | The question is what exactly to ask for. | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | i'm really confused: | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | "Some teachers are not having a problem which is | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | interesting if we all have the same programs." | 17:18 |
| th1a | OH! | 17:18 |
| th1a | We do have a security debug view now right? | 17:18 |
| replaceafill | which runs on devmode, right? | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | i haven't used it much | 17:19 |
| th1a | If this isn't a CSS problem, I'm not sure how to approach it. | 17:19 |
| th1a | Well, we'll hold off on that. | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | so, the gradebook labels now? | 17:20 |
| th1a | I'll send an email. | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:20 |
| th1a | Yes, then IEPs. | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:20 |
| th1a | Then we're "done" with CanDo. | 17:20 |
| th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 17:21 |
| * replaceafill done | 17:21 | |
| th1a | yvl? | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:21 |
| yvl | I'm not sick anymore | 17:21 |
| yvl | and today I'm working with images | 17:21 |
| yvl | was doing thumbnails most of the time, and now fixing the photo refresh | 17:22 |
| yvl | turns out... well, there were multiple bugs | 17:22 |
| yvl | nothing sinister, but time consuming | 17:22 |
| yvl | I should be done some time tomorrow | 17:23 |
| th1a | OK. I think you should get a head start on the new report styles then. | 17:23 |
| yvl | so that's my daily report :) | 17:23 |
| yvl | kk | 17:23 |
| th1a | Feel free to pick an existing report and try to update the style. | 17:24 |
| th1a | Work on improving that process. | 17:24 |
| yvl | ok | 17:24 |
| yvl | sure | 17:24 |
| th1a | Thanks yvl. | 17:25 |
| th1a | menesis? | 17:25 |
| th1a | Have you been up to anything? ;-) | 17:25 |
| menesis | not much | 17:26 |
| menesis | I have made releases of everything | 17:26 |
| menesis | on Friday | 17:26 |
| th1a | That's something! | 17:26 |
| menesis | nothing new from me in them | 17:27 |
| menesis | I had one crash on my system instance, but turned out that the blobs directory was not copied | 17:27 |
| menesis | so fixed evolution to not crash, just ignore unavailable photos | 17:28 |
| menesis | Also updated the release notes | 17:29 |
| th1a | We aren't losing photos are we? | 17:29 |
| th1a | Do we need to be telling people something about migrating their data if they have photos? | 17:29 |
| menesis | tell people - yes | 17:30 |
| menesis | to migrate data | 17:30 |
| menesis | you need to copy the Data.fs AND the blobs directory | 17:30 |
| yvl | true | 17:31 |
| th1a | Where is that? | 17:31 |
| menesis | /var/lib/schooltool/blobs /var/lib/schooltool/Data.fs | 17:31 |
| th1a | Right now that's all images? | 17:32 |
| th1a | User contributed images. | 17:32 |
| menesis | person photos | 17:32 |
| menesis | contact photos, and school logo | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:33 |
| yvl | at some point there will also be reports | 17:33 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:34 |
| th1a | We probably should have named it differently, but oh well. | 17:35 |
| th1a | How do I find the quantal repos? | 17:36 |
| menesis | in the 'soft' announcement | 17:37 |
| menesis | https://launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/+archive/ppa/?field.series_filter=quantal | 17:37 |
| th1a | Oh... I've been looking in the dev ppa. | 17:38 |
| th1a | So at this point, CanDo users are going to stay in the dev ppa for 12.04? | 17:39 |
| menesis | I think they want to stay on 12.04 | 17:39 |
| th1a | Yes, but they're also in the dev ppa right? And we don't really want to bother trying to get them to change. | 17:40 |
| th1a | i.e., they all won't anyway. | 17:40 |
| menesis | they don't need to change | 17:42 |
| menesis | all the summer they were testing precise/dev ppa | 17:42 |
| menesis | now I have uploaded the same to quantal/main ppa | 17:42 |
| th1a | OK. We just need to remember that that "dev" ppa is now our biggest production ppa. | 17:43 |
| th1a | So we might need a new "dev" or something. | 17:43 |
| menesis | I will add a table to the install instructions in the book to map ubuntu versions/sources to schooltool releases | 17:43 |
| th1a | really-dev | 17:43 |
| menesis | ubuntu | universe | ppa | dev | 17:43 |
| menesis | quantal | 2.1.1 | 2.3 | - | 17:43 |
| menesis | precise | 2.1 | 2.1.1 | 2.3 | 17:43 |
| menesis | oneiric | 1.7 | 1.7 | 2.1.1 | 17:43 |
| th1a | OK< that will help, menesis. | 17:43 |
| menesis | but yes, one more ppa (unstable) would be useful | 17:44 |
| th1a | OK. Looks like my upgrade worked. | 17:46 |
| th1a | Thanks menesis. | 17:46 |
| th1a | Thanks gentlemen. | 17:47 |
| th1a | Let's try to put our current work to bed so we can start our report "sprint." | 17:47 |
| th1a | It is more of a middle-distance run. | 17:47 |
| th1a | Report 400 meters. | 17:48 |
| th1a | Have a good week. | 17:48 |
| th1a | See you wednesday. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:48 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:48 | |
| aelkner | thanks guys, cya wed | 17:49 |
| yvl | thanks guys! | 17:50 |
| th1a | yvl, aelkner: We can't import CSV to the gradebook now, right? | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | nope | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | th1a, skills are sorted by label now in the skills gradebook: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool.cando/trunk/revision/132 | 19:23 |
| th1a | Cool. Thanks. | 19:23 |
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