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| th1a | replaceafill: Where are we on the report? | 19:36 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, i managed to group sections by course | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | as yvl suggested | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | and filters work now | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i should be done with it today | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | at least able to show it to you | 19:37 |
| th1a | Cool. Probably projects next. | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i lost my grades though :( | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | the ones i used for testing :''( | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | i deleted the Data.fs by mistake | 19:38 |
| th1a | Ah, shit. | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | i wish there was a tool to record my steps when using the browser ... ;) | 19:40 |
| veloutin | replaceafill: like Sahi? http://sahi.co.in/ | 20:42 |
| replaceafill | :O | 20:43 |
| th1a | veloutin: We actually use Selenium extensively, so he's joking. | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | i use selenium ide | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | :) | 20:43 |
| th1a | We just have to remember to turn it on. | 20:43 |
| * veloutin goes to buy a sarcasm detector | 20:43 | |
| replaceafill | sorry veloutin :( | 20:44 |
| veloutin | no worries :P | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | th1a, want to confirm something | 20:48 |
| replaceafill | if the year has several terms | 20:48 |
| replaceafill | and a section is linked in several of them | 20:48 |
| replaceafill | in the completion report it should only appear once? | 20:48 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:48 |
| replaceafill | is it ok if i take the title of the first in the linked set to represent them all | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | and i'm making unions of all the teachers and students | 20:50 |
| replaceafill | set unions | 20:50 |
| replaceafill | in case there are different instructors/students in some of them | 20:50 |
| replaceafill | what i can't see yet is how to spit a single line value | 20:51 |
| th1a | ah | 20:51 |
| replaceafill | average? | 20:51 |
| th1a | well | 20:51 |
| th1a | maybe we need to think about it | 20:51 |
| replaceafill | i assume skills are the same | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | since it's the same course | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | for all of them | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | right? | 20:52 |
| th1a | just a sec | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | this is what's weird to me in the linked scenario | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:52 |
| th1a | Well, it probably doesn't make sense. | 20:53 |
| th1a | OK, so refresh my memory. | 20:54 |
| replaceafill | i mean, since it's the same skill | 20:54 |
| replaceafill | it appears with the same grade in all of the sections | 20:54 |
| th1a | Are we actually looking at the skill as it was scored in the term/section or just what the current score for the skill is? | 20:54 |
| replaceafill | global score | 20:54 |
| replaceafill | evaluation is a combination of student, skill only | 20:55 |
| th1a | We don't know when the evaluation was made in terms of section. | 20:55 |
| th1a | Don't we know the teacher and date? | 20:55 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so | 20:55 |
| replaceafill | we know the evaluator and date | 20:55 |
| replaceafill | but not the section | 20:55 |
| replaceafill | because in cando's case the skill comes from the course | 20:56 |
| th1a | This is the kind of thing that I try to get in at the beginning of the design process but everyone thinks I'm just making shit up. | 20:56 |
| replaceafill | :D | 20:56 |
| replaceafill | let me try it (but i think i already did) | 20:57 |
| th1a | This is the way CanDo worked before, too, right? | 20:57 |
| replaceafill | well yes | 20:57 |
| th1a | It has been wrong all along. | 20:57 |
| replaceafill | and they didn't have linked sections | 20:58 |
| replaceafill | just a single term | 20:58 |
| th1a | Right, but it isn't actually telling you what the teacher did. | 20:58 |
| th1a | Another teacher could have entered the scores a year ago. | 20:58 |
| th1a | Right? | 20:58 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:58 |
| th1a | That's just not right. | 20:58 |
| replaceafill | but now we have history | 20:58 |
| replaceafill | at least you could check that | 20:59 |
| th1a | It is just annoying because the evaluation should store the section context. | 20:59 |
| replaceafill | confirmed | 21:00 |
| th1a | To be honest, I'd be ok with adding that. | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | using dwelsh 4 term spreadsheet | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | wanna see? | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | i can set it up in the vps | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | so, the linking in the completion report doesn't make much sense, right? | 21:02 |
| th1a | See what? | 21:02 |
| th1a | Well, the entire thing is fucked. | 21:02 |
| th1a | It doesn't even report what it says it does. | 21:02 |
| th1a | We're not storing key metadata. | 21:02 |
| replaceafill | agree | 21:03 |
| th1a | We should just fix it. | 21:03 |
| th1a | And this report should be by term. | 21:03 |
| th1a | (maybe) | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | ah | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | that would "hide" it :) | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | i mean, the issue | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | ok, moving to term context then | 21:04 |
| th1a | If a kid leaves the class after one term and is 10% evaluated, that shouldn't skew the subsequent scores. | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | right | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | it becomes a one section line | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | again | 21:05 |
| th1a | I kind of feel like maybe you should table it and I should have yvl add the section context. | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | i mean, a line per section | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | you mean, move to something else for now? | 21:07 |
| replaceafill | projects? | 21:07 |
| th1a | That might be a good idea, because the section linkage is a pretty fundamental issue. | 21:07 |
| replaceafill | ok | 21:08 |
| replaceafill | i'll push the fixes to the other reports to trunk then | 21:08 |
| replaceafill | and move on | 21:08 |
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| replaceafill | ok, virginia report refactoring/fixes pushed to trunk | 21:43 |
| replaceafill | moving to projects now | 21:43 |
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