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| replaceafill | hey th1a | 19:17 |
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| th1a | hi replaceafill. | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | i'm ready when you are | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | i'm setting up a fresh cando instance now | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | do you need the old cando version up? | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | to see the old reports? | 19:19 |
| th1a | Uh... I just need data to see the old reports. | 19:19 |
| replaceafill | i think i have some acc data from last year | 19:20 |
| replaceafill | let me look | 19:20 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:6663/calendar | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | manager:cando | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | for the old version | 19:24 |
| th1a | Oh... OLD version. | 19:24 |
| th1a | No, I don't need that, sorry. | 19:24 |
| th1a | I thought you meant like, last month's. | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | ah | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | looking... | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | i'm lost in a sea of sandboxes :D | 19:25 |
| th1a | I'd think. | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | trying one Data.fs... | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | nope | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | hhmm or maybe... | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660 | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | eunita.winkey@apsva.us | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | teacher | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | i think this is the one we used for the summary section report | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | it just has more students now | 19:31 |
| th1a | I need to do some screenshots for Mark. | 19:32 |
| th1a | Do we have any examples with a sane number of skills and students? | 19:32 |
| th1a | I can just make one up I guess. | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | probably, all our sample data comes from APS | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | which has lots of skills ~90 | 19:33 |
| th1a | OK. I may have to do that tonight. | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:35 |
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| th1a | So... now what? Next report discussion? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | completion ones, correct? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | the ones with lots of weird numbers :D | 19:37 |
| th1a | Yes... I guess I probably do need to be looking at the OLD version of that. | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6663 | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | manager:cando | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | CanDo tab | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | Reports | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | they take a while to load | 19:41 |
| th1a | by instructor, right? | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | sure | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | the sorting is what changes | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | the data is the same | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | iirc | 19:41 |
| th1a | I was thinking it was basically the same. | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | ok, mine rendered | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | i vaguely remember a conversation with dwelsh/glenda about something on this report... | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | ah! | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | courses in multiple program areas :S | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | but never mind | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | i guess that's over | 19:44 |
| th1a | I've got David Ally in another window right now so I might be a little slow. | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | ah | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | np | 19:46 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:47 |
| th1a | So this goes by sections and this one happens to be sorted by instructor. | 19:47 |
| th1a | We could add filtering by node. | 19:48 |
| th1a | It would be a slightly fiddly two-step widget. | 19:48 |
| th1a | aelkner: ayt? | 19:49 |
| replaceafill | th1a, by node or by layer? | 19:50 |
| th1a | Layer. | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | got it | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | so if i look for "Agricultural Education" under the "Cluster" layer, it should only show sections there | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | if i type "Animal Science" and select "Course", same | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:52 |
| th1a | In this case, you'd want to see one program area at a time. | 19:52 |
| th1a | Or... no. | 19:53 |
| th1a | That probably only makes sense to VA and maybe not even there. | 19:53 |
| th1a | Meh. | 19:53 |
| th1a | OK, let me reboot my brain in a sec. I have to try to call aelkner for something else. | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:54 |
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| th1a | OK, this gets into the old "course as course vs. course as node" problem. | 19:59 |
| th1a | They are only really the same for VA. | 19:59 |
| th1a | In this case Program Area is really like the non-existent Subject object we need to organize courses. | 20:00 |
| th1a | So... we don't really have a way to sort the courses. | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | we can only associate nodes to courses by their attributes | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | like we do in the batch assign view | 20:02 |
| th1a | Let's just do it by courses sorted alphabetically first. | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | no filtering yet then | 20:03 |
| th1a | And probably just do some kind of hardwired sort for VA only. | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | ok | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | we're going to use a chart instead of all the numbers, right? | 20:08 |
| th1a | It should be basically the same chart as for the individual students, right? | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | two 100% scales? | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | i only see one | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | unless we add the filters ofc | 20:10 |
| replaceafill | for passing score | 20:10 |
| th1a | two 100% scales? | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | we have: | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | 100 ... 0 .... 10 | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | oops | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | 100 ... 0 ... 100 | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | in the students report | 20:12 |
| th1a | Oh... right ok. | 20:12 |
| th1a | It is only positive. | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | right | 20:12 |
| th1a | Well, it is the same data though. | 20:13 |
| th1a | There is no reason not to show failing scores. | 20:13 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | we'll use the filter then | 20:14 |
| th1a | The % > 80% is new. | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:14 |
| th1a | We can just add another line. | 20:14 |
| th1a | I had this as just a black vertical line in my prototype. | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | ah, a new tick | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | we'll also need the "Skill Type" filter | 20:19 |
| replaceafill | so we don't need an extra report | 20:19 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:19 |
| replaceafill | All/Required | 20:19 |
| th1a | I was going to say Evaluated too, but tbh, that may be pretty resource intensive so we might want to wait for a request. | 20:19 |
| replaceafill | does the >=80% column need a filter? | 20:21 |
| replaceafill | like we do with "Passing Score" in the student report | 20:21 |
| replaceafill | sorry, Passing Target | 20:21 |
| th1a | Oh! | 20:22 |
| th1a | duh. | 20:23 |
| th1a | Uh... | 20:23 |
| th1a | Well, yes. | 20:23 |
| th1a | Also you still need it for passing score. | 20:23 |
| replaceafill | basically we need the same filters :D | 20:23 |
| replaceafill | where should i put the link to the report? | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | under /courses | 20:24 |
| th1a | Just for the moment. | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | i think i have enough to start, right? | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | unless i'm missing something important | 20:27 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:29 |
| replaceafill | kk, will have something to show you in the meeting tomorrow | 20:32 |
| replaceafill | starting... | 20:32 |
| th1a | Cool. | 20:32 |
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| aelkner | th1a, back from eye doctor | 22:16 |
| th1a | aelkner: ayt? | 23:13 |
| aelkner | th1a, yes | 23:21 |
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| th1a | aelkner: Just a sec... | 23:22 |
| th1a | OK aelkner, do we have a post-Flourish niepa package? | 23:27 |
| th1a | I can't remember. | 23:27 |
| aelkner | yes, i made the changes to my niepa package for flourish | 23:29 |
| aelkner | it was never merged into trunk, but i can make the merge request now | 23:29 |
| aelkner | my version is installed on the demo server | 23:29 |
| aelkner | oh, there is no trunk | 23:30 |
| th1a | You beat me on that one. | 23:30 |
| th1a | Trunk? | 23:30 |
| aelkner | just a menesis version which is not as up to date as mine | 23:30 |
| aelkner | when i say trunk, i'm always referring to branches that start with lp:~schooltool-developers | 23:31 |
| aelkner | we have trunk versions of schooltool, schooltool.gradebook, journal, intervention, etc. | 23:32 |
| aelkner | just not for niepa | 23:32 |
| th1a | So... can you have an updated instance with niepa and CanDo running? | 23:32 |
| aelkner | yes, so you want me to add cando to the demo instance | 23:32 |
| th1a | Hopefully it is not a problem. | 23:33 |
| aelkner | shouldn't be, i'll try it out and let you know | 23:34 |
| th1a | So if you can just get that running again and ping David and me. Make sure he knows where it is. | 23:34 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 23:35 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll email the both of you and include a link | 23:35 |
| th1a | How was the eye doctor? | 23:35 |
| aelkner | well, we'll see, part of the issue may have been that i'm used to this bad left eye | 23:36 |
| aelkner | so when the new glasses had the correction for that eye, it may have been the reason i have trouble focusing | 23:36 |
| aelkner | so we're sending the glasses back to have the far part be even like the $15 glass that work so well for me | 23:36 |
| aelkner | the bottom will have the special reading focal distance which will help reading obviously | 23:37 |
| aelkner | and that part will have the additional help for the left eye | 23:37 |
| th1a | Bifocals can be tricky. | 23:37 |
| aelkner | hopefully, the top part being even will fix it so i can drive without feeling in danger | 23:37 |
| aelkner | yeah, and these are actually progressive | 23:38 |
| aelkner | so they talk about this waveryness being what you should expect | 23:38 |
| aelkner | problem is, i don't need the world to wobble like in the seen at the end of The Matrix | 23:38 |
| th1a | Hm. Yeah, I've never had to look through those. | 23:38 |
| aelkner | especially when i'm dirving! | 23:38 |
| aelkner | and for $814, i should feel more helped than the $15 glasses, not less | 23:39 |
| aelkner | so i have to wait a couple of weeks, go pick them up and hold my breath :( | 23:40 |
| th1a | Well, I hope it works out. | 23:40 |
| th1a | OK, I have to go make dinner. | 23:40 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll let you know | 23:42 |
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