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| aelkner | replaceafill, hey | 16:51 |
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| replaceafill | hey aelkner | 16:52 |
| aelkner | i added the external activity stuff to cando, but i need your watchful eye | 16:53 |
| aelkner | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aelkner/schooltool/cando/revision/114 | 16:53 |
| aelkner | for the total, i kept the numcomps * 3 logic from the old cando | 16:53 |
| aelkner | for the percent complete, i just used the number of required comps | 16:54 |
| aelkner | i haven't merged with trunk yet as i expect that i will need to make some changes | 16:54 |
| aelkner | but i did load it into my demo instance, as manager: | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | you didn't add ext act for the skills gradebook? | 16:54 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2012-2013/MP4/sections/13106-45-1-1/projects/Project/gradebook | 16:55 |
| aelkner | what's that? | 16:55 |
| aelkner | i thought we wanted two activities, one for total, one for percent complete | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | yes, but these are for projects, right? | 16:55 |
| aelkner | yes | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | i'm asking about the skills gradebook | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | he's already able to grade a single student at once | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | (what he wanted yesterday) | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | so he doesn't have to use projects for that anymore | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | but those should be easy to add anyway | 16:57 |
| aelkner | since we never did anything lke that in the old cando, i'm not sure how that would work | 16:57 |
| aelkner | the idea always was, adapt the skilldriver to an external activity | 16:57 |
| replaceafill | maybe i got confused but i think th1a requested 4 ext acts yesterday | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | 2 for skills gradebook and 2 for projects | 16:58 |
| th1a | eh? | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | i got confused then ;) | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | i just thought we were going to have ext acts for the skills gradebook | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | so you could insert the total or average of the "course" skills | 16:59 |
| aelkner | how would that look in the add activity form, could you guys call that up please? | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | without creating a project | 16:59 |
| th1a | Who am I logging in as? | 17:00 |
| aelkner | manager | 17:00 |
| aelkner | i just use that user to make it easier for me to not have to keep logging in and out | 17:00 |
| th1a | I get ForbiddenAttribute: ('description', Project(u'Project1')) when I try to do that, btw. | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you need to add /gradebook to the URL | 17:01 |
| aelkner | just log in and try again | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | it's a bad redirect | 17:01 |
| th1a | I'm just saying... | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | whenever you want to send people to a gradebook, use: | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2012-2013/MP4/sections/13106-45-1-1/gradebook-projects | 17:01 |
| th1a | Well, yes, but it is a bug. | 17:01 |
| aelkner | yes, agreed, the redirect is a bug | 17:02 |
| th1a | What do you want me to do, aelkner? | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | i agree | 17:02 |
| aelkner | so go add an activity and look at the form | 17:02 |
| aelkner | btw, the points at the bottom are confusing for percent complete | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | shouldn't we be in the regular gradebook for that? | 17:02 |
| aelkner | ok, th1a, true, you can hit the Gradebook tab at the top | 17:03 |
| aelkner | then do the ad activity | 17:03 |
| th1a | It should be % passing, not % complete. | 17:04 |
| aelkner | ok, and the logic i used is to devde the number passing by the number of required comps, scored o not | 17:05 |
| aelkner | is that the right logic? | 17:05 |
| th1a | If there were skills assigned to the course or section they'd have separate entries. | 17:05 |
| th1a | It sounds like you did the calculation right but are describing something different. | 17:06 |
| th1a | This is based on the passing score in the score system, right? | 17:06 |
| aelkner | yes | 17:06 |
| aelkner | i'll change the title as you suggested | 17:06 |
| aelkner | what about the numcomps * 3 logic for the total that i brought over from old cando | 17:07 |
| aelkner | i don't why multiply by 3 before deviding the total, but that's what it was in the old code | 17:07 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, you had a reason, i'm sure, i just don't know what it was | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | jelkner | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | he requested it that way | 17:08 |
| jelkner | replaceafill | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:08 |
| aelkner | that's a person, not a reason :) | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | i hit Enter before finishing :D | 17:08 |
| th1a | numcomps? | 17:08 |
| jelkner | all i need now is a total | 17:08 |
| aelkner | th1a, for the total, we add up the scores and devide by number of scored comps * 3 | 17:09 |
| jelkner | aelkner, no, just add em up | 17:09 |
| aelkner | th1a, you have my permission to tell my brother where to get off :) | 17:09 |
| aelkner | but seriously, i'll do whatever you guys negotiate | 17:10 |
| jelkner | http://ict.gctaa.net/summer2011/goals/week5.html | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | i still think we need 2 of these (ext act) for the course skills | 17:10 |
| jelkner | aelkner, read the august 2nd entry | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | or jelkner will have to recreate projects for all his sections | 17:10 |
| th1a | I don't see any reason to divide by 3. | 17:10 |
| jelkner | i don't mind creating a single project | 17:10 |
| jelkner | that is all the comps | 17:11 |
| jelkner | it is too late in the game this summer to change the practice | 17:11 |
| jelkner | i would happily create a single project with all comps | 17:11 |
| jelkner | as long as the total points (raw) can be displayed | 17:11 |
| aelkner | jelkner, what do you envision putting in the points field when you add the activity? | 17:12 |
| aelkner | that field, if you remember, allows you to scale the result as you wish | 17:12 |
| jelkner | i could put the total number of points possible | 17:12 |
| jelkner | but the most important thing is that students (and me) have an easy way to see how close they are to getting the score they want | 17:12 |
| jelkner | it's the merit badge concept dwelsh often talks about | 17:13 |
| jelkner | here are the skills | 17:13 |
| jelkner | you need this many points to be an eagle scout | 17:13 |
| jelkner | go get em | 17:13 |
| jelkner | but it doesn't work if you can't get feedback from the system on your progress | 17:14 |
| th1a | Oh, wait. | 17:14 |
| th1a | This isn't going to work at all, is it? | 17:14 |
| th1a | Doesn't the external activity just pass a % ? | 17:14 |
| aelkner | th1a, depends on how we code it | 17:14 |
| jelkner | th1a pounds the white board... "We're f...d!" | 17:14 |
| aelkner | i carried over the old cando for the total one, that does a percentage | 17:14 |
| th1a | Well, yes, it is software, so it could do anything. | 17:15 |
| aelkner | but we could change it to just add up the total | 17:15 |
| th1a | But simply passing an integer isn't useful to the gradebook. | 17:15 |
| aelkner | still, though, the points field applies a percentage | 17:15 |
| aelkner | so putting 100 in there will make the result come out as the true total | 17:15 |
| jelkner | aelkner, sweet | 17:15 |
| aelkner | anything else will scale it | 17:16 |
| th1a | Uh... | 17:16 |
| th1a | What if it passed a % of total possible points? | 17:17 |
| jelkner | gentleman, i need to get back to teaching, but i think my story is clear, yes? | 17:17 |
| jelkner | i need total points | 17:18 |
| aelkner | and you will put 100 in the points field, right jelkner? | 17:18 |
| jelkner | if you tell me | 17:18 |
| aelkner | and you'll use projects? | 17:18 |
| jelkner | i'll do whatever you tell me | 17:18 |
| th1a | Well, I'm a lot more dubious about it at this point. | 17:19 |
| th1a | We'll think about it. | 17:19 |
| jelkner | th1a, i'm in trouble here | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | th1a, because of the percentage part? | 17:19 |
| jelkner | the program is almost over | 17:19 |
| jelkner | and students need to see their scores | 17:19 |
| jelkner | i can't wait till next week for that | 17:19 |
| th1a | We'll hack something together. | 17:20 |
| jelkner | perfect | 17:20 |
| jelkner | just get me through august 10th | 17:20 |
| th1a | Do you know the total number of possible points? | 17:20 |
| th1a | Is that not going to change? | 17:20 |
| jelkner | and we can do it the right way by august 27th | 17:20 |
| jelkner | it varies from course to course | 17:20 |
| th1a | I'd say this: | 17:20 |
| jelkner | so does the number of points you need for A, B, C | 17:20 |
| th1a | * jelkner needs to add up the total number of possible points per course. | 17:21 |
| * jelkner can do that | 17:21 | |
| th1a | * jelkner needs to assign each activity the right number of points (same as above) | 17:21 |
| * jelkner can do that too ;-) | 17:21 | |
| th1a | * aelkner needs to pass a % of the total possible points. | 17:21 |
| th1a | It'll come out right. | 17:21 |
| th1a | In the future we might make the first two steps optionally automatic. | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | can i have everybody's attention for a minute? | 17:22 |
| aelkner | i'm all ears :) | 17:22 |
| replaceafill | the way the projects gradebook work right now, is that if you select a skill to add, it will "copy" the skill into the project | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | so, if jelkner creates projects for his courses, he will be creating "new" skills | 17:23 |
| replaceafill | with no scores! | 17:24 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | he already graded the students | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | if he uses projects now, he will need to grade again | 17:24 |
| th1a | Not for the project. | 17:24 |
| th1a | Why are we talking about projects? | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | because these ext acts work *on* projects | 17:25 |
| aelkner | th1a, did you go to the add activity form? | 17:25 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:25 |
| aelkner | it says Project 1 total points | 17:25 |
| aelkner | Project 1 percent complete | 17:25 |
| aelkner | which i will be changing to percent passing | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | my point is that we need to extra acts for "course" skills | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | sorry, two* | 17:26 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | that does exactly the same, but taking into account all skillsets in the *skills* gradebook | 17:26 |
| th1a | YEs. | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | phew | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | at some point, i started to think i was crazy ;) | 17:26 |
| aelkner | so instead of looping over the skills of a project, a single worksheet | 17:27 |
| aelkner | it will loop over every worksheet in the section's gradebook | 17:27 |
| aelkner | cando gradebook, that is | 17:27 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:27 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:27 |
| aelkner | what should the title of the two sources in the drop-down be | 17:27 |
| aelkner | {course title} total points | 17:28 |
| aelkner | " percent passing? | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | "skills gradebook total points"? | 17:28 |
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| th1a | In all cases it should be % of total points | 17:29 |
| th1a | I'd use the course title. | 17:29 |
| aelkner | the calculation not is total points divided by (num scored comps * 3) | 17:30 |
| aelkner | should that change to (num comps, period) | 17:30 |
| aelkner | scored or not, no times 3 | 17:30 |
| aelkner | sorry, i meant to say 'the calculation is now...' | 17:31 |
| aelkner | as in that's what i got from the old cando thinking it was relevant | 17:31 |
| aelkner | i can change it, ofc | 17:31 |
| th1a | Does *3 sound like logical math? | 17:32 |
| th1a | Or some arbitrary VA bullshit? | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/schooltool/+spec/gradebook-cando-integration | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | see 3. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | it's jelkner's original idea | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | i think 3 is the minimum passing score, iirc | 17:34 |
| th1a | I think he's really going for a modified passing rate score there. | 17:34 |
| aelkner | it is | 17:34 |
| th1a | Anyhow, we're not doing it. | 17:35 |
| aelkner | we'll divide total score by total num comps, scored or not, right? | 17:35 |
| aelkner | required or not? | 17:36 |
| * th1a sighs. | 17:37 | |
| th1a | Which score are you referring to aelkner? | 17:37 |
| aelkner | sorry, by score i mean the thing the user puts in the cando gradebook | 17:37 |
| aelkner | in old cando, a unscored cell was ignored | 17:38 |
| aelkner | i was asking if we should compute the percentage based on all comps, not just scored ones | 17:38 |
| th1a | No, I mean, we're talking about % of total points? | 17:38 |
| aelkner | right | 17:38 |
| th1a | The % of total points is % of total points. | 17:38 |
| th1a | It has to be all of them or it won't work the way jelkner wants. | 17:39 |
| aelkner | required or not, right? | 17:39 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:39 |
| aelkner | ok, that's answers my question | 17:39 |
| aelkner | th1a, replaceafill, i only have a couple of hours to work on this, but i think i can make these changes | 17:40 |
| aelkner | i will merge into trunk before leaving so that replaceafill can make any changes while i'm gone | 17:40 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks. | 17:40 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, what's the best way to get from section to skills gradebook? | 17:52 |
| aelkner | i see that the adapter adpats ICourseSkillset | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | isectionskills | 17:52 |
| aelkner | so skills = ISectionSkills(section and gradebook = ISkillsGradebook(skills)? | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:53 |
| aelkner | thanks | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | ah no | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | hold on, i'm not sure on the gradebook one | 17:53 |
| replaceafill | the gradebook one is for skillsets iirc | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | for icourseskillset | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | isectionskills is the equivalent to iactivities | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | gradebooks act on worksheets | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | gradebook = ISkillsGradebook(skills_worksheet) | 17:55 |
| aelkner | skillsets = ISectionSkills(section) | 17:55 |
| aelkner | for skillset in skillsets: | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | correct | 17:55 |
| aelkner | gradebook = ISkillsGradebook(skillset) | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | for skill in skillsets.values(): | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | ;) | 17:56 |
| aelkner | yes? | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | just remember skillsets.values(): | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | it's a container | 17:56 |
| aelkner | right | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | but yes, that's the approach | 17:56 |
| aelkner | so the external activities adapter that now looks for adapters of project to external activity | 17:57 |
| aelkner | should now have a block of code that adapts section to external activity? | 17:57 |
| aelkner | i'm just wondering how you would prefer i register these | 17:57 |
| aelkner | i'll just be adding two more than the ones i already have | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | no strong opinion here | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | i don't hink we need to register by course skillset | 17:58 |
| aelkner | i'll use section since that is the context of the ecternal activities adapter | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | registering for the whole section is fine with me | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i didn't show you yesterday: | 18:09 |
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| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6662/schoolyears/2012-2013/MP3/sections/13106-45-1-1/gradebook-skills | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | eunita.winkey@apsva.us | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | teacher | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | select a student -> Score | 18:10 |
| th1a | I'd not put a save at the top. | 18:11 |
| th1a | Looks wierd. | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:12 |
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| replaceafill | i just thought that the list could become really long | 18:12 |
| th1a | And can we style it to look a bit more gradebooky and less table-y? | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | i tried, but the font size of the gradebook made reading the skills really hard | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | i think jelkner is probably right about "Cancel" | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | maybe it should be labeled "Done" | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | or we could make the "Save" action to redirect to the section gradebook | 18:14 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking the scr will look exactly like this | 18:15 |
| th1a | Pretty much. | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | will work on that next so i can show it to dwelsh/glenda today | 18:15 |
| th1a | I'd say the "Save" should take you back to the gradebook and we should have some kind of "Save and Next" | 18:16 |
| th1a | Or whatever. | 18:16 |
| th1a | Save and... | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | ah | 18:16 |
| th1a | I can't remember what language we use. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | for going to the next student? | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | Next | 18:16 |
| th1a | But there needs to be a cancel. | 18:16 |
| th1a | Next student. | 18:16 |
| th1a | Save and next. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | gradebook has: | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | Submit | Next | Cancel | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | so for cando will be: | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | Save | Save and next | Next student | Cancel | 18:18 |
| th1a | Well... | 18:19 |
| th1a | It should be consistent. | 18:20 |
| th1a | I like Submit | Next | Cancel | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | i remember... let me see | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | if you're in the middle of the list, you get: | 18:20 |
| th1a | Maybe Submit | Submit and Next | Cancel | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | Submit | Previous | Next | Cancel | 18:21 |
| th1a | Or that. | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | kk | 18:21 |
| th1a | That's fine. | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | we could add Previous | Next buttons for the scr :) | 18:28 |
| th1a | y | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | the scr only makes sense in the skills gradebook context, right? | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | nah, it doesn't hurt having it in the projects gradebook :) | 18:53 |
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| dreich | replaceafill, aelkner, could either of you give me and pgulley schooltool.cando 101? | 19:26 |
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| replaceafill | dreich, i can't today | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | what do you need to know? | 19:31 |
| dreich | basically how the objects work and how we'd go about editing them from an xmlrpc function | 19:33 |
| dreich | (sorry, I know it's a lot to explain) | 19:33 |
| th1a | What are you trying to do from the user's point of view? | 19:33 |
| dreich | as of now, just get a list of possible competencies, but then also update users information about them | 19:39 |
| dreich | first the list, though | 19:39 |
| th1a | So... you don't really need to edit them? | 19:39 |
| pgulley | that depends... | 19:40 |
| dreich | I don't think so | 19:40 |
| dreich | but i'm not sure exactly what youcha wants | 19:40 |
| pgulley | if user values for specific competencies are stored in the user objects, then no | 19:41 |
| pgulley | I don't think we need to be creating competencies, but we definitely need to update them. and if they're stored the other around then we will be editing them. | 19:41 |
| th1a | This is from pyquiz? | 19:41 |
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| pgulley | yes | 19:42 |
| th1a | How is this different than what jelkner needs? | 19:43 |
| dreich | it's pretty much the same thing, just that youcha is the higher-priority client right now | 19:45 |
| th1a | With a clear specification the actual implementation should be easy. | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | imho, it would be faster if you come up with some api requirements for the services you need | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | i code them | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | and then explain to you how they work | 19:47 |
| th1a | Yeah. That is no problem. | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | as we did with the gradebook | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | (without the explanation part) :D | 19:47 |
| th1a | You really don't want CanDo 101. | 19:48 |
| dreich | ah, ok! | 19:49 |
| pgulley | cool, that works. | 19:49 |
| dreich | thanks a lot | 19:49 |
| pgulley | so, we need two things: | 19:50 |
| pgulley | We need to be able to get a list of competencies | 19:50 |
| dreich | (ids and names) | 19:50 |
| pgulley | and then we need to be able to mark a student as competent. | 19:50 |
| pgulley | (or otherwise update their competency) | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | kind of similar to the current gradebook xmlrpc methods, correct? | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | i mean, you need to grade the student in that skill | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | in that section | 19:52 |
| replaceafill | in that term, etc etc :) | 19:53 |
| dreich | yes, exactly | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | when do you need these? | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | could you start with a mock in your views? | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | (same way we do in tests) | 19:54 |
| dreich | yeah, we definitely could, but soon would still be nice | 19:54 |
| dreich | we'll use that for now though | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | once you have mocks, please point me to those | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | so i can see how you will use the actual xmlrpc method | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | but i think i get your idea | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:6662/schoolyears/2012-2013/MP3/sections/13106-45-1-1/skills/6617-2011-0/gradebook/903353/student_competency_report.html | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | th1a, eunita.winkey@apsva.us, teacher | 19:56 |
| th1a | I hate eunita | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | th1a, do you think we should make the content area to expand | 19:56 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:56 |
| dreich | replaceafill, will do | 19:57 |
| replaceafill | dreich, kk | 19:57 |
| th1a | Oh, that's another login bug. | 19:57 |
| th1a | THOSE ARE SERIOUS BUGS. | 19:57 |
| th1a | (by the way) | 19:57 |
| * replaceafill blames our traversers | 19:58 | |
| th1a | Well, I'm just saying... | 19:58 |
| th1a | Let's not deploy with them. | 19:58 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:58 |
| replaceafill | adding that to the TODO file | 19:58 |
| th1a | There should be a separate column for label. | 19:58 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | also, the old report | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | had the skill flag in its own column | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | Required | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | Optional | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | ... | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | i used color codes instead | 19:59 |
| th1a | You want the date on one line. Take out the time. | 19:59 |
| th1a | You could have the required flag, yes. | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | or we could set css widths for the columns | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | the old scr was: | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | label | flag | title | date | rating | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | iirc | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | ys | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | also, the old scr had the rating scale at the top | 20:01 |
| replaceafill | i think we could use the Help group in the sidebar | 20:02 |
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| th1a | Use the sidebar. | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | the pdf option could go there too | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | once we have it ;) | 20:04 |
| th1a | Under reports. | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | right | 20:04 |
| replaceafill | th1a, reload | 20:22 |
| replaceafill | reload again :) | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | i think the hover on the rows help | 20:24 |
| th1a | Just make Required a bool. | 20:25 |
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| th1a | We don't need the whole word in there. | 20:26 |
| th1a | Check mark is ok. | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | and we put "Required" in the header, right? | 20:26 |
| aelkner | th1a, replaceafill, i pushed the changes to trunk | 20:27 |
| aelkner | you may want to fine tune something with the calculation after working with jelkner | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, kk | 20:28 |
| replaceafill | will update his instance | 20:28 |
| aelkner | i saw a not about the skills import | 20:28 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Yes. | 20:28 |
| aelkner | is that going to need a change in get_verso.py? | 20:28 |
| replaceafill | if i understood correctly we need to send Lee get_verso.py | 20:29 |
| replaceafill | with the ability to download and create the xls at once | 20:30 |
| aelkner | yes, we need a command line option for doing all or doing just the download or just using the pickel file | 20:30 |
| aelkner | can this wait until next week? | 20:30 |
| aelkner | i'll be at the monday meeting and will be able to get things done that week | 20:31 |
| aelkner | th1a, if you can hold them off at the upcoming meeting on this, i can get to it first thing monday | 20:31 |
| aelkner | actually, i'll be back able to do stuff this saturday, perhaps that would be a good task | 20:32 |
| th1a | Is there some reason we can't just send him get_verso.py? | 20:33 |
| replaceafill | i've never tried get_verso.py from scratch, but i think it could work | 20:34 |
| replaceafill | i've always used it with a cached copy of the pickle | 20:34 |
| aelkner | it's always been a hack with no command line, however, adding one is not a big problam | 20:35 |
| aelkner | i wouldn't, however, send it to Lee as is | 20:35 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, if you look at it, i wrote code to process the pickel and then call sys.exit | 20:36 |
| replaceafill | i know aelkner | 20:36 |
| aelkner | so you see waht i'm saying about the command line, right? | 20:37 |
| replaceafill | i think we just need a version that works from scratch and generates the xls | 20:37 |
| replaceafill | no command line needed imho | 20:37 |
| replaceafill | just 'python get_verso.py' | 20:37 |
| replaceafill | and spits verso_skills.xls | 20:38 |
| aelkner | how about it has a command line for us, but by default, it does all | 20:38 |
| aelkner | so what you said would do all, but adding --no_download would skip that | 20:39 |
| th1a | OK, I'll stall them... | 20:39 |
| aelkner | so i'll do that saturday? that would allow replaceafill to do other things | 20:39 |
| replaceafill | jelkner's instance updated btw | 20:40 |
| aelkner | th1a, i'll take that as a yes, you dd say you'd stall them, just wanted to confirm | 20:40 |
| aelkner | anyway, i'm not going to bother coming to today's meeting | 20:40 |
| aelkner | gotta beat the rush hour | 20:41 |
| th1a | kk | 20:41 |
| replaceafill | have fun aelkner :) | 20:41 |
| aelkner | thanks guys, i'll see you at the monday meeting | 20:41 |
| replaceafill | th1a, reload | 20:42 |
| replaceafill | i don't like the checkmarks :( | 20:42 |
| replaceafill | checkmarks + color coding is redundant, right? | 20:42 |
| th1a | Oh, yes, I didn't see that. | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | maybe i should remove the colors | 20:43 |
| th1a | Well... | 20:43 |
| th1a | One or the other. | 20:43 |
| th1a | I kind of prefer the checkboxes of the two. | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | we can ask them? | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | i prefer the colors :D | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | make more sense if we put the Help dialog ;) | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | putting it... | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | reload, help options available now | 20:49 |
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| th1a | We can ask. | 20:56 |
| th1a | I'm still not entirely sold on the blue. | 20:57 |
| th1a | Maybe it should be yellow. | 20:57 |
| * replaceafill goes to update the demo instance | 20:59 | |
| replaceafill | th1a, do you think we should give users a way to update the rating words in that view? | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | it shouldn't be hard i think | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | just some JS | 21:58 |
| th1a | It is part of the score system, right? | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | yes | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | but it's hardcoded | 21:58 |
| th1a | Well, it can't be for long anyhow. | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | right | 21:58 |
| th1a | So... no. | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | i always think wrong about these things :D | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | ;) | 21:59 |
| th1a | Makes me feel useful. | 21:59 |
| th1a | Basically we want to go away from these one giant complex reports by using a lot more filtering. I think Glenda and I are on the same page on that. | 22:06 |
| replaceafill | glad to know :) | 22:06 |
| th1a | It's pretty obvious once you think about it a bit. | 22:07 |
| th1a | Those reports are pretty horrible. | 22:07 |
| th1a | In several different ways. ;-) | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | i'm also glad that i finally understood the whole cluster-course thing :D | 22:07 |
| th1a | Pain in the ass. | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | :D | 22:07 |
| th1a | Also, Dave always takes me marching in the wrong direction with his implementation ideas. | 22:07 |
| replaceafill | felt the heat going up a little there :D | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | ok, va section report next | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | going into the virginia package | 22:08 |
| replaceafill | ah, and will clean the validation of the Score student view | 22:09 |
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