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| aelkner | mattva01, hey | 02:06 |
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| aelkner | replaceafill, ayt? | 19:20 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:20 |
| aelkner | could we talk about what we are doing presently | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:21 |
| aelkner | i know that you are and have been making changes from the meetings | 19:21 |
| aelkner | you probably saw i did the same as well | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | yep | 19:21 |
| aelkner | but those changes are winding down a bit, and we are supposed to be working on reports next | 19:22 |
| aelkner | so the question is, where can i help with that? | 19:22 |
| aelkner | i was thinking about the pdfs | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | from the meetings i sensed welsh wants the html version first | 19:22 |
| aelkner | but really, ideally, the pdf views should be based on the same subclass as the html views | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | right | 19:22 |
| aelkner | yes, all html first, so i thought i should do html, not pdf | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | +1 | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | he mentioned the scr yesterday | 19:23 |
| aelkner | so, are the specifications for these reports written somewhere? | 19:23 |
| aelkner | scr? | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | student competency record | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | i think you should contact welsh for a sample report | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | but basically it's the skills gradebook in a long page :) | 19:24 |
| aelkner | so that would be the one that you would have me take | 19:24 |
| aelkner | you have others to do, right? | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | right | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | but i'm doing the ... ones | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | what's that word? | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | when you collect a lot of data | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | ... | 19:25 |
| aelkner | collate? | 19:25 |
| aelkner | that means sorting | 19:25 |
| aelkner | collect? | 19:25 |
| th1a | What days are you working next week aelkner? | 19:25 |
| aelkner | hey th1a | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | man! my english is broken today | 19:25 |
| aelkner | so i'm here monday, and tuesday until early afternoon | 19:25 |
| aelkner | then i head to the trounament, but i'll bring my laptop | 19:26 |
| aelkner | and i'll find time to do some things | 19:26 |
| aelkner | i think if i take just the one report, i should be able to help out in the short term | 19:26 |
| th1a | OK, just do an individual student report. | 19:27 |
| aelkner | is that the scr that replaceafill refered to? | 19:27 |
| th1a | Then we don't have to worry about search/filter/navigation, etc. | 19:28 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:28 |
| aelkner | ok, good, i like the sound of that | 19:28 |
| aelkner | is there anything written down about design details that i should read | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, you should ask dwelsh for a sample to see the columns | 19:28 |
| th1a | If we don't have an old CanDo anywhere you might have to ask dwelsh. | 19:28 |
| aelkner | right, the sample from welsh for some design ideas | 19:29 |
| th1a | Or maybe just look at the code... | 19:29 |
| aelkner | yes, and the old cando i can fire up | 19:29 |
| aelkner | where are we gong to put the report link for scr, in the person index.html view? | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, Score option in the gradebook | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | when you click the student's name | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | sorry | 19:30 |
| aelkner | i thought Score was for changing scores | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | Report option | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:30 |
| aelkner | :) | 19:30 |
| aelkner | but cool, thanks | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | it can't go in the person index view because it's per section | 19:31 |
| aelkner | ah, it's a student, section data report | 19:31 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, i see we already have a view defined for the Report menu item | 19:35 |
| aelkner | it's the student grades view | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:35 |
| aelkner | am i replacing that view with the scr? | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | that's what dwelsh told me to do | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | "report should be the scr" | 19:36 |
| aelkner | i guess when jelkner looks for a less analytic view in the future (i'm guessing he will, maybe not) | 19:37 |
| aelkner | we could add a link called View or something | 19:37 |
| aelkner | i should keep the view class around in any event | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | imho it's basically the same | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, that class lives in the gradebook | 19:37 |
| aelkner | yes, it's the StudentGradebook context | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | you just need to change the option in the popup | 19:38 |
| aelkner | so, the option should still traverse to the student gradebook, but add report.html at the end? | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | something like that | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | or student_competency_report.html ;) | 19:38 |
| aelkner | and we can keep view.html alive, just no link to it | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | yep | 19:39 |
| aelkner | +1 on student_competency_report.html | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | th1a, can we talk about the core/additional implementation? | 19:46 |
| th1a | Yeah… just a sec. | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:47 |
| th1a | ok | 19:48 |
| replaceafill | do you still think we should "count" nodes in order to decide what's core? | 19:49 |
| th1a | aelkner: Obviously, the new html version should use the flourish guidelines in general. | 19:49 |
| th1a | Not those plain HTML ones. | 19:49 |
| th1a | Oh… just in that view? | 19:49 |
| th1a | There is no core, really. | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i was thinking in general | 19:50 |
| th1a | We don't really want that abstraction. | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | i agree we don't need it in the data model | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | but we will need to know which skillsets are "core" for reports | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | at least for virginia | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | right? | 19:51 |
| aelkner | th1a, is there an example of an html report already written following the flourish guidelines? | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, you'll be writing the first :) | 19:52 |
| aelkner | oh great :) | 19:52 |
| th1a | If necessary we can deal with reports at the report end. | 19:52 |
| th1a | Or give VA some very lightly customized report selectors. | 19:53 |
| aelkner | but are we to use the special library that you investigated for html reports | 19:53 |
| th1a | Hm? | 19:53 |
| th1a | Don't worry about that aelkner . | 19:53 |
| aelkner | i forget what we decided on that, you had looked into an interactive js lib | 19:53 |
| th1a | We can add that later. | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, that's for charts i think | 19:53 |
| aelkner | ok, not an issue here | 19:53 |
| th1a | Yeah, I don't think this one needs graphics anyhow. | 19:54 |
| aelkner | so i'm not sure which flourish guidelines you refer to for this | 19:54 |
| aelkner | i think of flourish guidelines as governing the layout of all our vews, the sidebars, tabs, tertiary, etc. | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, see th1a's email on 7/23 | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | Fwd: [2682-003 Phase 1 & 2] Re: SchoolTool Reports Guide | 19:55 |
| th1a | Tables... | 19:55 |
| replaceafill | there's the link to the basecamp | 19:55 |
| th1a | Actually yes, Vinny did do more guidelines for HTML reports than I intended. | 19:56 |
| aelkner | i already looked at the pdf, but i thought it was just for pdf | 19:57 |
| aelkner | i guess i didn't look closely enough | 19:57 |
| aelkner | but i see the sections on Tables as you just mentioned, so i see what guidelines to use | 19:58 |
| aelkner | so the html report are to take up the whole width i guess | 19:59 |
| aelkner | the only thing not in the report that remains is the application tabs above, right? | 19:59 |
| aelkner | and the user needs to hit the back button to get back to the gradebook? | 20:00 |
| th1a | aelkner: The main thing I'm saying is don't make these giant plain HTML like I believe they were before. | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | and a Done button ;) | 20:00 |
| th1a | flourish tables. | 20:00 |
| th1a | etc. | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | what th1a calls "flourish it" | 20:00 |
| replaceafill | :D | 20:00 |
| th1a | Headers, paragraphs, etc. | 20:00 |
| th1a | Everything should have some style. | 20:00 |
| th1a | I'm really just stating the obvious. | 20:01 |
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| aelkner | no, it's ok, i got that from what you said and the guidelines | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | so th1a how do we handle "additional" set by the teachers? | 20:02 |
| aelkner | the guidelines don't mention the Done button | 20:02 |
| aelkner | where should that go? | 20:02 |
| th1a | Bottom. | 20:02 |
| aelkner | ok, cool | 20:02 |
| th1a | Done buttons go at the bottom except if there might be long search results, in which case they go above and below. | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | imho in the scr, we could have two Done buttons too | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | it may get really long | 20:03 |
| aelkner | ok, it will be easy to add and remove them wherever we decide they are to go | 20:05 |
| aelkner | i'll start with having it above and below, and we can look at it together when i have it ready | 20:05 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, do you mind if i fix the projects gradebook before moving to the "additional" skill selection? | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | i think the second one could benefit from the first one | 20:15 |
| replaceafill | since we need a way to allow teachers to select single skills | 20:16 |
| replaceafill | we don't have that right now | 20:16 |
| replaceafill | and now we know how to look for nodes, select single skillsets, etc | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | (what we've done for course skills) | 20:17 |
| th1a | Sure, that's fine. | 20:43 |
| th1a | replaceafill: | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | on it ;) | 20:43 |
| th1a | . | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | i think it should be "Select and Copy" though | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | since we're copying the skills | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | (as we agreed) | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | but maybe "Copy" it's too redundant | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | we'll see :) | 20:44 |
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