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replaceafill | yvl, ping | 16:31 |
yvl | hey replaceafill | 16:33 |
yvl | gimme a minute :) | 16:33 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:33 |
yvl | one more minute... | 16:37 |
replaceafill | np | 16:37 |
replaceafill | my connection still sucks today :( | 16:38 |
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* yvl invited you to google hangout :) | 16:42 | |
yvl | ping replaceafill :) | 16:44 |
replaceafill | yvl, one minute :) | 16:44 |
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yvl | sure | 16:44 |
replaceafill | http://api.jquery.com/jQuery.ajax/ | 16:56 |
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replaceafill | thanks again yvl :) | 17:25 |
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aelkner_ | th1a, ayt? | 21:29 |
th1a | Hi aelkner_. | 21:29 |
aelkner_ | hey, regarding your question about the fieldset of the deploy course worksheet view | 21:30 |
aelkner_ | i don't know of a case where we have no fieldset legend | 21:30 |
aelkner_ | and removing it creates blank gray space where the legend would have been | 21:30 |
aelkner_ | i'm assuming that the css rules assume that every fieldset has a legend | 21:30 |
aelkner_ | thus leaving the space there for it | 21:31 |
aelkner_ | do you know of a view with a fieldset with no legend? | 21:31 |
th1a | No. | 21:32 |
th1a | Can you point me back to the server/page in question? | 21:32 |
aelkner_ | i don't have the change loaded on any server as i'm not convinced that we should do it | 21:33 |
aelkner_ | i mean, it would be a first | 21:33 |
aelkner_ | and it would cause us to have to come up with a new set of css rules or classes for the special case | 21:33 |
th1a | Well, if I can't look at it I can't tell you what the text should be. | 21:34 |
th1a | I don't even remember exactly what we're talking about. | 21:34 |
aelkner_ | ah, wait | 21:34 |
aelkner_ | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/2010-fall/sections/art_a_2010-fall_teacher004_000/activities/Worksheet/deploy_as_course_worksheet.html | 21:35 |
aelkner_ | teacher001 | 21:35 |
aelkner_ | usually, the legend is something like 'Field details' | 21:35 |
th1a | Just make it "Course Worksheet Details" | 21:36 |
aelkner_ | ok, thanks | 21:37 |
aelkner_ | th1a, ah, yes, another question i for got to ask yesterday | 21:40 |
aelkner_ | if the section has multiple courses and the user chooses to deploy it to both courses | 21:41 |
aelkner_ | then is the worksheet to be added twice to each the section that has the two courses | 21:41 |
aelkner_ | one as the course worksheet for the first course | 21:41 |
aelkner_ | and one for the second course? | 21:41 |
aelkner_ | you see, the logic is to loop though all sections of the term | 21:42 |
aelkner_ | and deploy the worksheet to any section that is for the given course | 21:42 |
aelkner_ | if the deployment is for multiple courses at the same tme | 21:42 |
aelkner_ | then the one section will answer true to that question twice | 21:43 |
aelkner_ | and thus, add the same worksheet, with two different keys, to the same section | 21:44 |
aelkner_ | what do you think? | 21:45 |
th1a | th1a: Notices aelkner_ is saying something... | 21:45 |
th1a | That sounds right. | 21:46 |
aelkner_ | ok, so adding it twice is no problem | 21:46 |
th1a | That is, it is something which doesn't really make sense anyhow, so just doing exactly what the user says without breaking is fine. | 21:46 |
aelkner_ | makes sense | 21:47 |
aelkner_ | ok, another question | 21:47 |
aelkner_ | what about the sheet that is already there | 21:47 |
aelkner_ | by deploying to the whole course, the sheet gets copied to the other sections | 21:47 |
aelkner_ | but also to itself | 21:47 |
aelkner_ | getting rid of the sourse sheet would lose scores potentially | 21:48 |
aelkner_ | keeping it causes a doubling of the sheet for just that section | 21:48 |
aelkner_ | tripling if the deployment is multi-course (as just discussed) | 21:48 |
th1a | This is when deploying from the course or the section or both? | 21:49 |
aelkner_ | deploying from the course views deploys to all sections for that course from a course template | 21:50 |
aelkner_ | deploying from the gradebook (the section) would do the same | 21:50 |
aelkner_ | but | 21:50 |
aelkner_ | but not from a template in a course | 21:50 |
aelkner_ | you stil have the source sheet | 21:50 |
aelkner_ | it's a small point, but i thought you should consider it | 21:50 |
aelkner_ | ex/ user sets up one sheet | 21:51 |
aelkner_ | deploys it to whole course | 21:51 |
aelkner_ | result is: all sections have the one sheet, except the source section which has two | 21:51 |
th1a | Anyhow, in both cases you don't want to duplicate. | 21:51 |
aelkner_ | title tie-breaking works from the deployments, not from the user sheets | 21:52 |
aelkner_ | if that's what you're referring to | 21:52 |
aelkner_ | if the user deploys Sheet1 as Sheet1 to the course, then it will show up as Sheet1 in the course deployments view | 21:53 |
aelkner_ | the next course deployment for Sheet1 would show up as Sheet1-2 | 21:54 |
aelkner_ | but the logic for doing this tie-breaking is done within the deployments | 21:54 |
th1a | Oh, I guess you probably have to duplicate it back to the source to use it for reports, etc. | 21:54 |
th1a | So just do that I guess. | 21:54 |
aelkner_ | the user can always get rid of the source when the realize the redundancy | 21:55 |
th1a | I'll note it in the documentation. | 21:56 |
aelkner_ | ok, cool | 21:56 |
aelkner_ | i see you decided to get rid of the grey fieldsets for modals | 21:57 |
aelkner_ | that keeps things consistent from how our other modals work | 21:58 |
aelkner_ | th1a, can you look at this? | 22:11 |
aelkner_ | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2011-2012/courses/art_a | 22:11 |
aelkner_ | as manager | 22:11 |
th1a | Yes? | 22:12 |
aelkner_ | so changing the link to Course Worksheets is obvious | 22:13 |
aelkner_ | how about the sentence that has deploy in it below that? | 22:13 |
th1a | There are no course worksheets for 2011-2012. | 22:13 |
th1a | Or "This course has no course worksheets." | 22:14 |
aelkner_ | the for 2011-2012 part follows a pattern, just so you know | 22:14 |
aelkner_ | we so that everywhere | 22:14 |
aelkner_ | do | 22:14 |
aelkner_ | so the first one? | 22:14 |
aelkner_ | There are no course worksheets for 2011-2012. | 22:15 |
th1a | Sure. | 22:15 |
aelkner_ | ok, now click on the Deployed Worksheets link | 22:15 |
aelkner_ | Current Course Worksheets at the top? | 22:16 |
aelkner_ | This year has no worksheets | 22:16 |
aelkner_ | for the sentence | 22:16 |
aelkner_ | Select worksheet to add | 22:16 |
aelkner_ | for the legend? | 22:16 |
aelkner_ | and the change you suggested for adding from the gradebook | 22:17 |
aelkner_ | Add the worksheet to a specific term or the entire year. | 22:17 |
aelkner_ | also, the title hint | 22:17 |
aelkner_ | If you add the same template multiple times, give each version an easily distinguishable name. | 22:17 |
aelkner_ | am i reading all these right to follow the pattern you established in your email | 22:18 |
th1a | That sounds fine. | 22:18 |
th1a | Just show me the end result. | 22:18 |
aelkner_ | ok, i can do that in five minutes | 22:19 |
th1a | OK. | 22:19 |
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aelkner_ | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2011-2012/courses/art_a | 22:37 |
aelkner_ | as manager | 22:37 |
th1a | Yay! | 22:37 |
aelkner_ | if you go to the School tab, the global templates still have the deploy word, shall we change that? | 22:38 |
replaceafill | aelkner_, "This year has no course worksheets set up." in the course worksheet templates page | 22:40 |
th1a | I think maybe "deployed" is still ok for the global report sheets. | 22:40 |
replaceafill | shouldnt it say something like "this couse has no worksheets..." | 22:40 |
th1a | Or not as much of an issue. | 22:40 |
aelkner_ | th1a, so before we review the teacher views, ok for the manager views? | 22:42 |
th1a | replaceafill is right about the worksheet template message. | 22:43 |
th1a | This course has no course worksheet templates. | 22:43 |
aelkner_ | ok, one sec so i can restart the server | 22:45 |
aelkner_ | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2010-2011/2010-fall/sections/art_a_2010-fall_teacher004_000/activities/Worksheet/gradebook | 22:47 |
aelkner_ | as teacher001 | 22:48 |
aelkner_ | still haven't fixed the bug if all checkboxes unchecked, will do so next | 22:48 |
th1a | OK. Looks fine at this point. | 22:49 |
replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 23:36 |
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