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| th1a | hi yvl, replaceafill, aelkner, menesis. | 16:29 |
|---|---|---|
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:30 |
| yvl | good morning | 16:31 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:31 |
| th1a | How was your vacation yvl? | 16:31 |
| menesis | hi | 16:31 |
| yvl | beyond words, th1a :) | 16:31 |
| th1a | Great! | 16:32 |
| th1a | OK, a few things from me first. | 16:33 |
| th1a | I'm going to have a meeting with Vinny this afternoon. | 16:33 |
| th1a | Basically a few small projects for him. | 16:34 |
| th1a | 1) business cards. | 16:34 |
| th1a | I need them... I don't think you guys need SchoolTool business cards though. | 16:34 |
| th1a | Unless you really think you do. | 16:34 |
| th1a | ? | 16:34 |
| th1a | 2) presentation background | 16:35 |
| th1a | 3) working on our report style sheet. | 16:35 |
| th1a | 3) is the most interesting. | 16:35 |
| yvl | :) | 16:36 |
| th1a | Pretty much just getting it in line with the rest of the interface and cooler looking. | 16:36 |
| th1a | Although you can't get too creative with school reports, ofc. | 16:36 |
| * yvl can't think of a reason for ST business card for himself | 16:36 | |
| th1a | I forwarded an email from Thailand with some issues. | 16:37 |
| th1a | Date formatting -- we're going to have to deal with that sooner rather than later. | 16:37 |
| th1a | (ug) | 16:37 |
| th1a | Did we just fix this? "3. New demographics criteria entered but no effect on the demographics details" | 16:38 |
| th1a | Didn't we just fix something dealing with custom demographics? | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | maybe this one? https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/914609 | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | the person edit view didnt show limited demographics fields | 16:40 |
| th1a | So that could be it. | 16:40 |
| replaceafill | (not sure that's what they're referring to) | 16:40 |
| th1a | Is this the same thing? https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/783887 | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | i don't think so, that's related to duplicated field id's i think | 16:42 |
| th1a | OK. So I'll respond to that email and maybe file some bugs. | 16:42 |
| th1a | Last thing: FeatureFreeze for Precise is Feb 16. We're going to be strict about this. | 16:43 |
| th1a | So we'll need to be aware of how we spend the remaining time. | 16:44 |
| th1a | OK. aelkner, what's up? | 16:44 |
| aelkner | it turns out that jeff lost a dear friend this week and we all went to his funeral | 16:45 |
| aelkner | that and the fact that i was a bit under the weather meant that i missed a couple days late last week | 16:45 |
| aelkner | but i did start on the modal dialog for filldown | 16:46 |
| th1a | OK. Sorry to hear that. | 16:46 |
| aelkner | yeah, he was a good guy, and his passing was sudden | 16:46 |
| aelkner | anyway, i need to learn about $.ajax() because ust using ST.dialogs.open_modal_form didn't work for me | 16:47 |
| aelkner | yvl, why do we have ST.state.push(), pop()? | 16:47 |
| th1a | Do you want to give yvl the background? | 16:47 |
| * yvl read the IRC logs | 16:48 | |
| yvl | in a nutshell - to put JavaScript variables in a scope | 16:48 |
| aelkner | and what does that mean? | 16:49 |
| yvl | it would be easier to explain in Feb ;) | 16:49 |
| th1a | Can we really not just put this task behind us? | 16:49 |
| yvl | ok | 16:49 |
| th1a | OK. Fine. | 16:49 |
| th1a | We have other things to do. | 16:50 |
| th1a | aelkner can start working on transcripts. | 16:50 |
| aelkner | i looked for my old school stuff in boxes in my basement, but couldn't find anything | 16:50 |
| th1a | Ah. | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:51 |
| aelkner | still, i can still make progress on the layout view for the transcript | 16:51 |
| th1a | It still may be possible. | 16:51 |
| aelkner | i mean, as you described last week, we could have the same dropdown to select report sheet activity | 16:52 |
| th1a | Just do some googling for "high school transcript" etc. to get a general refresher. | 16:52 |
| aelkner | which the transcript report would use to find the value in the gradebook | 16:53 |
| aelkner | yes, i can look at the internets for examples | 16:53 |
| th1a | Actually, images searches are probably more fruitful. | 16:53 |
| aelkner | images searches? | 16:54 |
| th1a | http://images.google.com/search?tbm=isch&hl=en&source=hp&biw=1023&bih=799&q=school+transcript&gbv=2&oq=school+transcript&aq=f&aqi=g2g-m8&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=4109l7181l0l8538l17l13l0l2l2l0l172l1277l3.8l11l0 | 16:54 |
| th1a | Don't worry about the formatting. | 16:54 |
| th1a | That is... | 16:55 |
| th1a | get the structure right. | 16:55 |
| th1a | But basically follow the defaults style-wise for now. | 16:55 |
| aelkner | ok, that helps | 16:55 |
| aelkner | but for the filldown, should i abandon the task? | 16:55 |
| th1a | We'll do it at/after the sprint. | 16:56 |
| aelkner | ok | 16:56 |
| th1a | It isn't like it is a complicated problem. | 16:56 |
| th1a | (the actual filling down...) | 16:56 |
| aelkner | i could make a non-modal to do the trick | 16:56 |
| th1a | Call me if you have questions aelkner. | 16:56 |
| th1a | No, just wait. | 16:57 |
| aelkner | and add the menu item 'Fill scores' | 16:57 |
| aelkner | ok | 16:57 |
| aelkner | and i'll cal if have any transcript questions | 16:57 |
| aelkner | that's it for me | 16:58 |
| th1a | Thanks aelkner. | 16:58 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | short week for me too, not much to report | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | marcela and i got married on friday :) | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | i need to finish the cambodia instructions, i made a couple of more changes, hid some more stuff | 16:59 |
| th1a | Wait what? | 17:00 |
| th1a | Congratulations! | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | thanks th1a | 17:00 |
| th1a | One thing you'll learn now that you're married is that you assume everyone else is. | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | :)) | 17:00 |
| th1a | That may be the main effect. | 17:01 |
| yvl | oh, congratulations replaceafill! | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | thanks yvl :) | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | so, i kind of disconnected last week | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | will get back to normal speed | 17:02 |
| menesis | wow | 17:02 |
| menesis | awesome news, replaceafill | 17:02 |
| th1a | You only get to use that excuse once, replaceafill. | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | menesis, :) | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | th1a, :)) | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | and i'll get back to my bugs this week too | 17:04 |
| th1a | Do you want to ask yvl about your take on the calendar formatting issue? | 17:04 |
| aelkner | congrats replaceafill! | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | thanks aelkner :) | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | yvl, did you see our conversation about dates in cambodia? | 17:05 |
| yvl | yes | 17:05 |
| yvl | it looked ok from the first glance | 17:05 |
| th1a | That was really just a test of how closely everyone pays attention to the chat. | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i have a branch somewhere with an experiment using data converters for date validation | 17:07 |
| yvl | please point me to it | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | i liked data converters because you can override them | 17:07 |
| yvl | right | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | and again, i think that makes the remaining ._toFieldValue(...) calls unnecessary | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | i think those come from the old zc.datetimewidget | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | according to my debugging | 17:08 |
| replaceafill | maybe it would be possible to get rid of the whole dependency, don't know | 17:08 |
| * yvl cannot recall the details, sorry | 17:09 | |
| replaceafill | yvl, i'll look for the branch and send it to you to get your feedback | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | np | 17:10 |
| yvl | thanks a lot! | 17:10 |
| th1a | replaceafill: This is something I'd like to get in the next release. | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | but definitely i can say, that's been the most difficult part of dealing with flourish in cambodia | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i mean, the date handling | 17:10 |
| th1a | Is has to be resolved. | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | yvl, also, the format being hardcoded in flourish.js | 17:11 |
| th1a | As much as I'd like to ignore it. | 17:11 |
| yvl | I know, replaceafill :| | 17:11 |
| yvl | we never reallly fixed those | 17:11 |
| yvl | so the issues are a bit scattered here and there | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:11 |
| replaceafill | th1a, could i work on that issue (dates)? and propose a solution? | 17:12 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | that yvl can review | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | cool | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | will do | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | ok, that's it from me i think | 17:12 |
| th1a | If it would make Cambodia simpler, you could do the date fix first. | 17:12 |
| replaceafill | th1a, definitely | 17:13 |
| th1a | They're not actually waiting for it now anyhow. | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | it would take some XXX out the code | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | th1a, right | 17:13 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks replaceafill. | 17:13 |
| th1a | yvl? | 17:13 |
| yvl | so I was pretty sick one week and on vacation another | 17:14 |
| yvl | so quite behind schedule | 17:14 |
| yvl | currently putting spinners on few ajaxified tables | 17:14 |
| yvl | doing UI is annoying to say the least ;) | 17:15 |
| * yvl is leaving Vilnius for sprint on Feb 3 btw | 17:15 | |
| th1a | Yes, I'll get you guys the hotel info. | 17:16 |
| yvl | thanks | 17:16 |
| yvl | so there's not much to update | 17:16 |
| yvl | I'll be pretty busy this week ;) | 17:16 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:17 |
| th1a | Thanks yvl. | 17:17 |
| th1a | menesis: Anything to report? | 17:17 |
| menesis | th1a: no | 17:18 |
| th1a | So we'll be freezing feb 16 and should do a release shortly thereafter. | 17:18 |
| th1a | So try to schedule around that. | 17:19 |
| th1a | OK? | 17:20 |
| menesis | ok. | 17:21 |
| th1a | I guess that was a shorter meeting than I thought it would be. | 17:22 |
| th1a | Good! | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK, let's get to work then! | 17:23 |
| yvl | yes! :) | 17:23 |
| th1a | aelkner: Keep me in the loop on this transcript thing. Just don't go off on a long tangent without checking with me. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | yvl, http://pastebin.com/E8CGUuQp | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | that was my experiment to use data converters to bypass the zc.datetimewidget | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | which doesn't allow "custom" format dates | 17:27 |
| th1a | See you Wednesday. | 17:27 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:27 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:27 |
| yvl | thanks guys | 17:27 |
| yvl | looks about right, replaceafill | 17:27 |
| aelkner | cya gys | 17:29 |
| th1a | http://blog.launchpad.net/general/custombuglistings | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | cool!, i can get rid of my custom bookmarks for sorting bugs now | 17:37 |
| th1a | Yes aelkner, check that out. | 17:37 |
| th1a | And please guys, don't make your bug views too restrictive. | 17:38 |
| th1a | Ah... I see, you need to click the little gear next to Order by: to get all the choices. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | yes, that's visibility | 17:46 |
| * replaceafill likes this new feature | 17:46 | |
| th1a | Whoa. My new computer loads the large sample data in less than two minutes. | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | :| | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | the large one? | 18:19 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:19 |
| replaceafill | what kind of cpu does it have? | 18:19 |
| th1a | That's about 10x faster I'd say. | 18:20 |
| th1a | i5. | 18:20 |
| th1a | So that's just using one of four cores. | 18:20 |
| th1a | I think it is just about a 50% increase in clock speed; this motherboard, etc. must be a LOT faster. | 18:22 |
| replaceafill | th1a, question: | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | i'm on https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.gradebook/+bug/898831 | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | you can see it here: http://69.164.203.135:6662/schoolyears/2011-2012/2012-spring/sections/art_a_2012-spring_teacher004_000/activities/Worksheet/gradebook | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | teacher004:teacher004 | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | 1. Is "Reports" ok for the links group title? | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | 2. Is Reports at the end ok? or should we put it between some of the other groups? | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | 3. Is it necessary to display dialogs with descriptions of the export and a Download button? | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | 4. I see some differences between the two reports: the XLS has an ID column, the PDF sorts the output like the gradebook. Should we match both reports to spit the same output? | 18:35 |
| * replaceafill corrects: "th1a, questionS" ;) | 18:35 | |
| * th1a wakes up. | 19:24 | |
| th1a | (figuratively) | 19:24 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:24 |
| * replaceafill thought th1a was cooking ;) | 19:24 | |
| th1a | Reports is generally close to the end and yes, we need dialogs. | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:25 |
| th1a | You're using the new registration, right? | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | new registration? | 19:26 |
| th1a | oh... | 19:26 |
| th1a | Registering the report. | 19:26 |
| th1a | aelkner is probably literally asleep. | 19:26 |
| th1a | He's on a different timezone. | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | :) | 19:27 |
| th1a | There's ZCML... | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | you mean so they get displayed in the overview view? | 19:27 |
| th1a | This thing -- http://69.164.203.135:6662/report_reference.html | 19:27 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | ah, no, i haven't, these are regular links | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | did we have registrations in the old skin for these? | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | i can look it up | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | just didnt check | 19:28 |
| th1a | I can wake up aelkner. | 19:28 |
| th1a | Take a few minutes and if you don't get it I'll wake aelkner. | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:28 |
| replaceafill | did we have it in the old skin? | 19:28 |
| th1a | Uh... I don't remember. | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | i don't see it in the zcml, just groups, persons, and one for sections | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | nope, we didnt have them | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | so we need new ones | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | Category: Section? | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | let me enable the journal in the testing instance | 19:31 |
| th1a | Section, yes. | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | ok, journal and interventions enabled | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6662/report_reference.html | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | Title: Export as XLS? | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | doesnt make much sense... | 19:34 |
| th1a | NO. | 19:34 |
| th1a | Why are you suggesting things that make no sense? ;-) | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | sorry | 19:34 |
| th1a | :-D | 19:34 |
| th1a | Actually, there are a few bad titles in there. | 19:34 |
| th1a | We should fix them. | 19:34 |
| th1a | Anyhow... | 19:35 |
| th1a | I'll file a separate bug for that. | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | new bug? | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:35 |
| th1a | Worksheet Export | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | the PDF exports only one sheet, but the XLS one exports all the sheets | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | ... for the section | 19:37 |
| th1a | Printable Worksheet | 19:37 |
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| th1a | Gradebook Export | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | ah, nice | 19:37 |
| th1a | How's that? | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | descriptions? | 19:38 |
| th1a | Hows what? | 19:39 |
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| th1a | A single Excel-formatted spreadsheet containing all the worksheets for this gradebook. Readable by LibreOffice and most other spreadsheet applications. | 19:42 |
| th1a | I guess we could leave off the second sentence. | 19:42 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:43 |
| th1a | A single PDF containing the active worksheet. | 19:43 |
| th1a | meh. | 19:44 |
| th1a | The current worksheet formatted for printing. | 19:45 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Do you know where the style sheet is for reports? | 19:53 |
| th1a | Is it in python code? | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | for the pdfs? | 19:53 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:53 |
| replaceafill | it's zcml, iirc | 19:54 |
| th1a | ? | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | let me find it | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | sorry, i meant rml :D | 19:54 |
| th1a | That's more like it. | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | th1a, this is the default template: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/flourish/view/head:/src/schooltool/app/browser/templates/default_report_template.pt | 19:59 |
| replaceafill | and it's python class with some inline styles: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/flourish/view/head:/src/schooltool/app/browser/report.py#L121 | 19:59 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 20:01 |
| replaceafill | is that what you're looking for? | 20:01 |
| th1a | So basically I don't want Vinny trying to do this at all. ;-) | 20:01 |
| replaceafill | ah! he's designing a new default template for our reports? | 20:02 |
| replaceafill | maybe we will have to "transform" what he design into python + rml | 20:02 |
| th1a | I'm just going to ask for essentially the equivalent of a page or two in the UWG. | 20:03 |
| th1a | (except for text) | 20:03 |
| th1a | print, that is | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | got it | 20:03 |
| replaceafill | we need to do the same we did with css for rml | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | define a central stylesheet for pdfs | 20:05 |
| th1a | y | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | right now, some templates define their own styles | 20:05 |
| replaceafill | iirc | 20:05 |
| th1a | This sounds like a replaceafill project. ;-) | 20:06 |
| replaceafill | :D | 20:06 |
| replaceafill | this is what i mean: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool.gradebook/flourish/view/head:/src/schooltool/gradebook/browser/rml/gradebook_rml.pt | 20:08 |
| replaceafill | lots of inline styles | 20:08 |
| th1a | Yes. | 20:09 |
| replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 21:33 |
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