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aelkner | th1a, ayt? | 02:50 |
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th1a | I am here aelkner. | 02:50 |
aelkner | cool, i have loaded the deployment changes on my demo instance | 02:50 |
th1a | If I don't like this you're going to have to cancel your trip. | 02:51 |
th1a | That would be a shame. | 02:51 |
aelkner | :) | 02:53 |
th1a | So what do you want me to look at? ;-) | 02:53 |
aelkner | yeah, i was about to post a link, and embarassingly, i think i found an unrelated bug with hiding worksheets | 02:54 |
th1a | Ooh. | 02:54 |
aelkner | i hid the many deployed report sheets that we played with for 2008-2009 | 02:54 |
aelkner | but now, it looks lke they still show up | 02:54 |
aelkner | but tell you what, let's focus on 2009 | 02:54 |
aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2009-2010/2009-fall/sections/science_a_2009-fall_teacher001_000/activities/Worksheet/gradebook | 02:55 |
aelkner | as teacher001 | 02:55 |
aelkner | same password | 02:55 |
th1a | OK? | 02:55 |
aelkner | from there, you can deploy and then it shows up in the course deployment view | 02:56 |
aelkner | ok, so i'm assuming you have the time right now to look at this | 02:56 |
aelkner | it can wait until tomorrow, but if you find anything now, i can fix it tonight | 02:57 |
th1a | Can we append something to the title to differentiate it within the teacher's gradebook? | 02:58 |
th1a | (1) ? | 02:58 |
aelkner | that was one thing that seemed to not be necessarily what the user would want | 02:58 |
aelkner | they can always change any title in their gradebook | 02:59 |
aelkner | but they can't change a deployment | 02:59 |
th1a | Well, perhaps we can color-code these later. | 03:00 |
aelkner | so, if a user wants to use their gradebook as a sandbox for creating course worksheet | 03:00 |
aelkner | then they shouldn't be forced to loose that title | 03:00 |
aelkner | colors, yes | 03:00 |
aelkner | that's an existent bug report in my long-term queue | 03:00 |
th1a | Or... for the moment maybe we could put report sheet titles in italics... | 03:01 |
aelkner | well, yes | 03:01 |
aelkner | what about report sheet deployments versus course deployments? | 03:01 |
aelkner | same difference, just italics? | 03:02 |
th1a | Well, do course work sheets check for title clashes with report sheets? | 03:03 |
aelkner | presently, no, just with course deployments | 03:03 |
th1a | Could you make it do that without too much craziness? | 03:04 |
aelkner | if you'd like that, which makes sense, then the logic should work in both directions | 03:06 |
th1a | Sure. | 03:06 |
aelkner | in other words, the report sheet deployments should be aware of the course deployments for title fixes | 03:06 |
aelkner | ok, i can make that happen | 03:06 |
th1a | kk | 03:07 |
th1a | And if you can throw in the italics thing, that would be good. | 03:07 |
aelkner | but this title check will ignore the user worksheets, just to confirm, right? | 03:07 |
th1a | y | 03:07 |
aelkner | cool | 03:07 |
aelkner | oh, and the rendering of the Actions linkset | 03:08 |
aelkner | first | 03:08 |
aelkner | the rendering of the link is dependent on course leader privalege | 03:08 |
aelkner | i hate spelling that word | 03:08 |
aelkner | a non-course leader should not be able to deploy, right? | 03:09 |
th1a | y | 03:09 |
aelkner | also, if the current worksheet is, itself, a deployment | 03:09 |
aelkner | should that not be deployable? | 03:09 |
aelkner | only a user worksheet perhaps? | 03:09 |
th1a | I'd say it should be re-deployable, so yes, it should show up. | 03:10 |
aelkner | ok, re-deployable | 03:10 |
aelkner | so just the course leader filter | 03:10 |
aelkner | so that's enough for tonight, thanks | 03:10 |
th1a | Cool. Thanks aelkner. | 03:10 |
aelkner | cya tomorow | 03:11 |
th1a | Is your flight in the evening? | 03:12 |
aelkner | no, it's thursday afternoon | 03:12 |
aelkner | i'll be leaving here around noon for my step-father's | 03:13 |
th1a | Oh, ok. Cool. | 03:13 |
aelkner | tomorrow, i'll be picking up my brother around 12:30, PM, but will be at the meeting and can make last minute adjustments | 03:13 |
aelkner | but i will have everything merged to trunk regardless | 03:14 |
th1a | kk | 03:14 |
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th1a | hi menesis, replaceafill, aelkner, yvl. | 16:30 |
replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:30 |
yvl | good morning | 16:30 |
aelkner | morning | 16:31 |
th1a | I just sent a reminder to Mark about approving our budget. | 16:32 |
th1a | I'm afraid I didn't do as much early nagging as usual... | 16:32 |
th1a | But I knew he was around and responding to emails in general so I got a little overconfident. | 16:33 |
th1a | otoh, I'm sure he'll tell us when he's decided NOT to give us more money. | 16:33 |
th1a | So, I'll keep you posted. | 16:34 |
th1a | aelkner? | 16:34 |
aelkner | i did the title check change we discussed last night | 16:35 |
aelkner | so that it checks the deployed report sheets as well as the source worksheets | 16:35 |
aelkner | before deciding whether it needs to append -n to the title | 16:35 |
aelkner | i realized that i couldn't do the opposite check when deploying a report sheet | 16:36 |
aelkner | because not every section is for the same course | 16:36 |
aelkner | so if they deploy 'Title' for some course worksheet and then again for a report sheet | 16:36 |
th1a | Ah, right. | 16:36 |
th1a | OK. | 16:36 |
aelkner | it will still come out as 'Title' | 16:37 |
aelkner | ok, you understand what i'm saying | 16:37 |
th1a | We'll need to do a little more organizing with this. | 16:37 |
aelkner | also, i added the italic css to the worksheet tab for deployed sheets, report or course | 16:38 |
aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schoolyears/2008-2009/2008-fall/sections/science_a_2008-fall_teacher001_000/activities/2008-2009_2008-fall_6/gradebook | 16:38 |
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th1a | OK. We're going to have to add some color coding to this and maybe some sorting. | 16:39 |
aelkner | another thing i found was that my logic for hiding total/average cols was flawed | 16:39 |
th1a | But we're on the right track. | 16:40 |
aelkner | i had it hiding those columns if the worksheet was deployed | 16:40 |
aelkner | but that was because until now we only deployed report sheets | 16:40 |
aelkner | which could have comment scoresystems | 16:40 |
aelkner | so i added canAverage() to IWorksheet | 16:41 |
aelkner | which returns true if all of the activities are for ranged value scoresystems | 16:41 |
aelkner | so even if the report sheet has only ranged scoresystems, it will now show the average/total | 16:42 |
aelkner | is that ok? | 16:42 |
th1a | That'll do for now. | 16:42 |
th1a | That is, I see no problems off the top of my head. | 16:42 |
aelkner | i can pick this up when i return, right? | 16:42 |
aelkner | i mean, there isn't any release coming up before then that will cause this to be released in | 16:43 |
aelkner | an incomplete fashion | 16:43 |
aelkner | is that right? | 16:43 |
th1a | Yes, this is a fine place to stop, aelkner. | 16:43 |
aelkner | ok, but i'll add the lnk filter we talked about before i merge to trunk | 16:43 |
aelkner | replaceafill, off the top of your head | 16:44 |
aelkner | do you remember which link set you coded to render conditionally once? | 16:44 |
replaceafill | look for renderable_items in code | 16:45 |
aelkner | ok, thanks | 16:45 |
aelkner | that's it for me | 16:45 |
th1a | Thanks aelkner. Send me your invoice before you leave. | 16:46 |
th1a | replaceafill? | 16:46 |
replaceafill | ok | 16:46 |
replaceafill | i worked on the fck editor widget | 16:47 |
replaceafill | log in as manager at: http://69.164.203.135:6660 | 16:47 |
replaceafill | and add something to the calendar | 16:47 |
replaceafill | you should see it in the Description field | 16:48 |
th1a | Looks good to me. | 16:48 |
replaceafill | last night i remembered an old issue of the fck editor + apache | 16:48 |
replaceafill | so i tested it | 16:48 |
replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/schooltool | 16:49 |
replaceafill | that's the same instance running behind apache | 16:49 |
replaceafill | menesis i think i found an issue in the book | 16:49 |
replaceafill | regarding the apache instructions | 16:49 |
menesis | might be | 16:49 |
replaceafill | ProxyPass /schooltool/ http://127.0.0.1:7080/++vh++http:localhost:80/schooltool/++/ | 16:49 |
replaceafill | that rule fails on the log out view | 16:49 |
replaceafill | because log out sends you to htp://xxx/schooltool | 16:50 |
menesis | I am adding a more complete example conf | 16:50 |
replaceafill | ah ok | 16:50 |
replaceafill | ok, i can test your more complete example later | 16:50 |
replaceafill | menesis, i'd also like you to check this change, i didnt push it to trunk yet | 16:50 |
replaceafill | maybe you can find potential issues | 16:51 |
replaceafill | about packaging, etc | 16:51 |
replaceafill | i'll submit a merge request | 16:51 |
replaceafill | ok? | 16:51 |
replaceafill | th1a, i'm also updating the translation of the book | 16:52 |
replaceafill | th1a, did you see my question about "Save" vs "Apply" | 16:52 |
th1a | Perhaps not. | 16:52 |
replaceafill | today i found an "Update" too | 16:52 |
menesis | replaceafill: yes, please test and send more | 16:52 |
menesis | the issue with logout | 16:52 |
menesis | is because / has no default view | 16:53 |
replaceafill | correct | 16:53 |
menesis | if you are an administrator, then ok | 16:53 |
menesis | but if you a teacher, then you get unauthorized if you go to localhost:7080 without any path | 16:53 |
menesis | but ok, I can probably add another rule to redirect "" to "/" | 16:54 |
th1a | We use "Save" in the gradebook, which I like. | 16:54 |
replaceafill | menesis, this is not our problem i think, but you can get permission errors if proxy is not appropriately configured | 16:55 |
replaceafill | menesis, i had them :) | 16:55 |
replaceafill | <Proxy *> | 16:55 |
replaceafill | order allow,deny | 16:55 |
replaceafill | allow from all | 16:55 |
replaceafill | deny from none | 16:55 |
replaceafill | </Proxy> | 16:55 |
menesis | ok, what you needed to do? | 16:55 |
menesis | add.. what you just posted | 16:55 |
replaceafill | yes | 16:55 |
menesis | ok | 16:55 |
replaceafill | th1a, what about edit forms | 16:56 |
replaceafill | most of the use Apply | 16:56 |
th1a | Huh. | 16:56 |
th1a | I would say "Submit" | 16:56 |
th1a | Anyone object to that? | 16:56 |
th1a | I don't think it is something we did on purpose. | 16:57 |
replaceafill | ok, i'll keep an eye on them while i take screenshots | 16:57 |
replaceafill | that's it from me | 16:57 |
th1a | Thanks replaceafill. | 16:58 |
th1a | menesis? | 16:58 |
menesis | I have tested apache config | 16:59 |
menesis | and written in the book and README.txt in schooltool | 16:59 |
menesis | am writing an example file | 16:59 |
menesis | with log dirs and others | 16:59 |
menesis | also preparing for release | 17:00 |
menesis | went ahead and pushed buildout 1.5 to flourish | 17:00 |
menesis | if buildout has to be run | 17:00 |
menesis | you may have noticed that it got into an endless loop of buildout upgrading... restarting... | 17:01 |
menesis | just hit Ctrl+C | 17:01 |
menesis | next time will go ok | 17:01 |
menesis | this has happened (and grind to a halt) the buildbots | 17:01 |
menesis | also dealt with bugs, create a few more for me, in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/schooltool | 17:02 |
menesis | regarding multiple instances, integration in ubuntu, and apache | 17:03 |
menesis | next is merge translations and make 2.0.1 releases | 17:03 |
menesis | other modules than core have seen close to none changes, so is easy | 17:04 |
menesis | that's it | 17:04 |
th1a | OK, sounds good menesis. Thanks. | 17:05 |
th1a | yvl? | 17:05 |
yvl | not much to update actually | 17:05 |
yvl | after the Skype call yesterday | 17:05 |
yvl | working on searches | 17:06 |
th1a | You could briefly fill in the others on the plan. | 17:06 |
yvl | ah, ok | 17:06 |
th1a | I guess we discussed it Monday a bit. | 17:06 |
yvl | yes, | 17:06 |
yvl | so I'll be remaking the relationship dialogs soonish | 17:06 |
yvl | to have only one table | 17:07 |
yvl | and ajaxified (+) and (-) buttons | 17:07 |
yvl | to add/remove members | 17:07 |
yvl | and additional filter to see "Current Members" only | 17:07 |
replaceafill | so if the member is in the relationship he gets an (-) and if he's not he gets a (+)? | 17:08 |
yvl | yes | 17:08 |
replaceafill | got it | 17:08 |
th1a | We'll probably have some other indicators. | 17:08 |
yvl | we can add links Add (+) and Remove (-) if buttons get to confusing for now | 17:08 |
th1a | Background color maybe. | 17:08 |
yvl | right | 17:08 |
yvl | and then there will be 2012 ;) | 17:09 |
yvl | wich means - student statuses | 17:09 |
yvl | we discussed making person rows larger maybe | 17:10 |
yvl | i.e. composed of several lines, and also a photo | 17:10 |
yvl | I can send you guys some of my doodling | 17:10 |
yvl | but I'm a bit afraid it can make little sense without somebody waving hands and trying to explain them | 17:11 |
th1a | Don't send them the ones showing the current state. | 17:11 |
yvl | ok | 17:11 |
th1a | OK. That should do it. | 17:12 |
th1a | I'm going to try to get through the gradebook/journal in the book tomorrow. | 17:13 |
th1a | So... no meeting next Monday, Wed. and I guess the following Monday? | 17:14 |
th1a | So a week and a half? | 17:14 |
th1a | I'll be online regularly throughout. | 17:14 |
th1a | replaceafill: We may need to talk about what you're going to work on. | 17:14 |
replaceafill | next met on Jan 4th? | 17:14 |
replaceafill | th1a, sure | 17:14 |
replaceafill | th1a, i have more css and i18n work to do | 17:14 |
th1a | Jan 4th, yes. | 17:14 |
th1a | OK. Happy Holidays gentlemen! Happy New Year. | 17:16 |
th1a | Have a good trip aelkner. Say 'hi' to jelkner. | 17:16 |
yvl | Happy Holidays everybody! | 17:16 |
aelkner | thanks, th1a | 17:16 |
replaceafill | thanks everybody, enjoy your vacations | 17:17 |
aelkner | have a great holiday everyone | 17:17 |
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th1a | replaceafill, aelkner: You have jobs for another year. | 22:54 |
th1a | (also yvl) | 22:54 |
replaceafill | th1a, !!!! | 22:56 |
replaceafill | excellent!!! | 22:56 |
replaceafill | tyvm | 22:56 |
th1a | Thank You Very Mark. | 22:56 |
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