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| srikanth_ | hello everyone | 18:42 |
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| srikanth_ | am unable to deploy a report sheet in schooltool 2 | 18:43 |
| srikanth_ | what must be the reason ? i c no deploy option at all | 18:43 |
| th1a | Hi srikanth_ | 18:44 |
| th1a | srikanth_: Actually, I'm writing the new documentation for that right now. | 18:45 |
| th1a | Go to School, and click on Deployed Report Sheets at the bottom of the main content area. | 18:45 |
| srikanth_ | thanks th1a | 18:48 |
| srikanth_ | i was only seeing the lest side options | 18:48 |
| th1a | Yes... I guess that's the problem with letting the middle get too long. | 18:48 |
| srikanth_ | how wil i get notified about the documentation you are writing | 18:50 |
| th1a | It should go up on book.schooltool.org next week. | 18:50 |
| srikanth_ | thanks th1a | 18:51 |
| th1a | Sure. Sorry I didn't get it done sooner! | 18:51 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: I assigned you some small bugs. | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah yes | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | i found one yesterday | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | but i'm not sure what to do | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | hold on, let me update the testing instance | 19:30 |
| th1a | Which one? | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2011-2012/section-csvimport.html | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | it's the section csv import view | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | in the example | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | see the first line | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | the space before "Spring" makes the example to fail | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | because you get: [u'Fall', u' "Spring"'] | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | i checked the other import csv instructions | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | and only this one uses "" | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | can we take the " out? | 19:33 |
| th1a | What are we using to parse this? | 19:34 |
| th1a | Are we using the python csv library? | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | standard csv module | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:34 |
| th1a | It can't handle spaces? | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | it's its fault actually | 19:34 |
| th1a | Is it misconfigured? | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | maybe it's the way we're setting it | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | probably | 19:34 |
| th1a | Check that. | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | maybe we would need a dialect | 19:35 |
| th1a | Or maybe just take the space out of the example. | 19:35 |
| th1a | But this isn't a weird case. | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | ocrrect | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | correct | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | taking the space out fixes the example | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | even if you use " | 19:35 |
| replaceafill | the other thing i dont like about the view is that mixes titles and identifiers | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | for example, for terms the user has to use titles | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | (first line) | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | for the rest (timetable, courses) he has to use identifiers | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | __name__ attributes | 19:36 |
| th1a | Yeah... that's not right. | 19:36 |
| th1a | Maybe this just needs to be cleaned up. | 19:37 |
| th1a | If we use all id's we shouldn't need quotes. | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i like the user using titles because he has control on them | 19:37 |
| th1a | Yeah, but there can be duplicates. | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | right | 19:38 |
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| th1a | This just needs to be made more consistent with the others now. | 19:40 |
| th1a | Do we allow commas in ids? | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | i check the others and they work fine | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | i dont think so | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | but ill check | 19:41 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2011-2012/addSection.html | 19:42 |
| replaceafill | i see the course list sorted | 19:42 |
| * replaceafill goes check the code | 19:42 | |
| th1a | OK, I guess that already got fixed. | 19:42 |
| th1a | Does the section list batch, btw? | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | it's a table container view | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | and those use batches | 19:46 |
| th1a | kk | 19:46 |
| srikanth_ | th1a @ let us assume that we have 2 classes 1 And 2 and therez a common couRse say z and a common teacher TEA . And i add 2 section to course z and schedule one to class a and class b with the teacher TEA . now when i log in as a student of class 1 and class 2 and see the timetable the course i see is z . but when i log in as a teacher TEA and see the timetable i see only the course z but not the class so how wil the teach | 19:53 |
| srikanth_ | th1a @ | 19:53 |
| th1a | Um... | 19:54 |
| srikanth_ | how wil the teacher know | 19:54 |
| srikanth_ | whether she should go to class 1 or 2 | 19:54 |
| th1a | Is the teacher added as instructor of the relevant sections? | 19:54 |
| srikanth_ | yea | 19:54 |
| th1a | Which class should the teacher be going to? | 19:55 |
| srikanth_ | i thought about it and added two courses z1 and z2 and added it to 2 different sections | 19:56 |
| srikanth_ | yea thats the question | 19:56 |
| srikanth_ | the timetable says just z but not the class | 19:56 |
| th1a | The calendar? | 19:57 |
| srikanth_ | yea | 19:57 |
| th1a | Oh, it doesn't identify the section? | 19:57 |
| th1a | Just the course? | 19:57 |
| th1a | What additional information do you want? Location? | 19:58 |
| srikanth_ | yea | 19:58 |
| srikanth_ | so what i did is | 19:58 |
| srikanth_ | i added two courses z1 and z2 | 19:59 |
| th1a | You can edit the title of the section. | 19:59 |
| srikanth_ | and schedule it to the two classes 1 and 2 with the same teacher tea | 19:59 |
| th1a | Do you just need to add location data to identify the section? | 20:00 |
| th1a | Is that the only problem? | 20:00 |
| srikanth_ | so when i log in as teacherr i see z1 and z2 but when i log in as a student i see z1 | 20:00 |
| srikanth_ | the student should just see z | 20:00 |
| srikanth_ | the course not his section | 20:01 |
| srikanth_ | so when i do this | 20:01 |
| srikanth_ | the teacher sees it as z1 and z2 | 20:01 |
| srikanth_ | the student as z1 | 20:01 |
| srikanth_ | or z2 depending on the class he belong too | 20:01 |
| srikanth_ | so what i want is the student should just see his course not his section | 20:02 |
| th1a | By default the title of the section is the name of the course plus a number. | 20:03 |
| srikanth_ | the calender shows the course | 20:03 |
| th1a | Oh, ok. | 20:03 |
| th1a | Yes, this is an annoying problem. | 20:03 |
| th1a | There is not an immediate solution. | 20:04 |
| th1a | Getting the section location back into the data model and in the calendar event would help. | 20:05 |
| th1a | Identifying sections is much more complicated than you'd think. | 20:06 |
| srikanth_ | yea | 20:07 |
| th1a | In practice they don't have names. | 20:07 |
| th1a | And how they are identified depends on the user's context. | 20:07 |
| srikanth_ | yes | 20:08 |
| th1a | Does that answer your question for now? | 20:12 |
| * th1a goes to make lunch. | 20:17 | |
| srikanth_ | so finally what i say is the student calender should read section and the teachers calender should read course ... i would define 2 courses as z1 and z2 with the section names z . so when the student logs in ans sees he ses z and when the teacher logs in and sees the calender it wil either say z1 or z2 | 20:21 |
| srikanth_ | th1a @ hope you consider my view | 20:22 |
| srikanth_ | sorry | 20:22 |
| srikanth_ | i have a different idea | 20:23 |
| srikanth_ | wil get back to you when you be back | 20:23 |
| srikanth_ | the idea i have wil solve the query | 20:24 |
| srikanth_ | wil be back | 20:24 |
| srikanth_ | th1a @ buzz me when you are back | 20:43 |
| th1a | I am back. | 20:43 |
| th1a | srikanth_, I'm back. | 20:46 |
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| srikanth_ | sorry i was wrong the calender displays the section | 20:58 |
| th1a | ah... I thought so but didn't have an example handy. | 20:58 |
| srikanth_ | so the student calender should display the course not the section | 20:59 |
| srikanth_ | its fine with the teacher calender as it shows section which is right | 20:59 |
| srikanth_ | so the only change that should me made is | 21:00 |
| srikanth_ | the student calender should display the course not the section | 21:00 |
| srikanth_ | hope you take this point | 21:00 |
| th1a | I see your point but it doesn't seem like a very significant change. | 21:01 |
| th1a | Just cleaning up the student's view slightly. | 21:01 |
| srikanth_ | yea | 21:02 |
| th1a | OK. It is a subject we come back to periodically, since no one solution is perfect for everyone. | 21:02 |
| th1a | So yes, we'll take your feedback into consideration. | 21:03 |
| srikanth_ | thanks th1a | 21:03 |
| th1a | Thank you srikanth_! | 21:03 |
| srikanth_ | th1a @ what does 08 and 09 in period mean ? in attendence | 21:26 |
| th1a | srikanth_: Where? | 21:27 |
| th1a | The period? | 21:27 |
| srikanth_ | logged in as a teacher ... there is a journal under the section which is in the calendar | 21:28 |
| th1a | Yes. | 21:29 |
| srikanth_ | so when i click on journal it takes me to enter attendence | 21:29 |
| th1a | Yes. | 21:29 |
| srikanth_ | i see a row period under day | 21:30 |
| srikanth_ | what is the period ? | 21:30 |
| th1a | When the section meets. | 21:30 |
| srikanth_ | it says 08 and 09 | 21:32 |
| th1a | Did you create a timetable? | 21:33 |
| th1a | Do the sections meet at 8:00 and 9:00? | 21:33 |
| srikanth_ | yea | 21:36 |
| srikanth_ | got it thanks | 21:36 |
| srikanth_ | period says the time of the class | 21:36 |
| th1a | Yes... I guess time is more generally applicable. | 21:37 |
| th1a | In the US we have named periods. | 21:37 |
| th1a | Not that this is for the US, but if affects how we conceptualize things. | 21:37 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 21:57 |
| th1a | this whole thread of section scheduling is just a bit out of compliance with flourish. | 21:59 |
| th1a | I'm filing bugs... | 21:59 |
| srikanth_ | once again thanks th1a . time to leave | 21:59 |
| th1a | You're welcome srikanth_. | 21:59 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: I seem to have run into a bug with the section calendar for the instructor. | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i'm back | 22:17 |
| replaceafill | yes, jelkner has complained a lot about the multi-term sections | 22:19 |
| th1a | It still needs some tuning. | 22:20 |
| th1a | It should have tertiary navigation. | 22:20 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: I have a random question. | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | yes? | 22:29 |
| th1a | The little punch outs around all the ports in the back of your pc -- does that metal insert come with the motherboard or the case? | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | motherboard | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | well, the ones i've bought (two) had it | 22:31 |
| th1a | I was thinking it must... | 22:31 |
| th1a | Since most of these ports didn't exist when I bought this case. | 22:31 |
| * th1a is due for an upgrade. | 22:31 | |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://cdn5.tweaktown.com/content/4/1/x4105_05_asus_p8z68_v_pro_intel_z68_motherboard_review.jpg.pagespeed.ic.lXbx4NtrNC.jpg | 22:35 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 22:35 |
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