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| th1a | replaceafill: Incidentally, I'm not going to lose any sleep if we launch tomorrow without the Ubuntu/CL panels on the front page. | 03:51 |
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| th1a | They can be added at any point. | 03:51 |
| replaceafill | by panels you mean the images, or the whole box? | 03:52 |
| th1a | The whole box. | 03:52 |
| th1a | Nobody would know they were supposed to be there... | 03:52 |
| replaceafill | ah! | 03:53 |
| th1a | lol | 03:53 |
| replaceafill | you mean, no box at all | 03:53 |
| th1a | Just those panels. | 03:53 |
| th1a | I mean, we'll definitely have our own panels about SchoolTool features. | 03:53 |
| th1a | We can add and subtract individual panels easily enough. | 03:54 |
| replaceafill | sure | 03:54 |
| replaceafill | we're creating a Screenshots page? | 03:55 |
| replaceafill | we can start without that tab too ;) | 03:56 |
| th1a | No... :-D | 03:56 |
| th1a | We'll need to make some screenshots! | 03:56 |
| replaceafill | we can start with just "It works" from apache :D | 03:56 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Aren't the colors in the dialogs kind of bright? | 04:02 |
| th1a | The title bar mostly. | 04:03 |
| * replaceafill goes to see | 04:03 | |
| th1a | Can we make that the same color as the top bar? | 04:04 |
| replaceafill | yes, they are different | 04:05 |
| replaceafill | fixing... | 04:05 |
| replaceafill | th1a, fixed http://69.164.203.135:6660 | 04:10 |
| th1a | I think that's better. | 04:11 |
| replaceafill | definitely | 04:11 |
| th1a | I think there are fewer UI problems outside of the admin screens... so far at least. | 04:33 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/manager/calendar | 04:36 |
| replaceafill | check the third-nav | 04:36 |
| replaceafill | i think i fixed the background issue that was reported today | 04:36 |
| replaceafill | can you confirm? | 04:36 |
| replaceafill | in Yearly, MOnthly, Weekly, etc | 04:36 |
| th1a | Looks good to me. | 04:36 |
| replaceafill | kk | 04:36 |
| th1a | Didn't I try to get Ethnicity out of the default demographics? | 04:53 |
| replaceafill | i think so | 04:54 |
| th1a | It doesn't appear to have happened. | 04:54 |
| th1a | Oh well... | 04:54 |
| replaceafill | you said it was offensive or something | 04:54 |
| th1a | Not to me, per se, but others. | 04:54 |
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| th1a | aks: Do you think we could use this image on our homepage? http://olenepal.org/images/trainer_training.jpg | 05:14 |
| aks | th1a: ok, if that suits you | 05:15 |
| aks | th1a: or you can try http://olenepal.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/psedp.jpg as well | 05:15 |
| th1a | We could use slightly larger versions. | 05:16 |
| aks | th1a: ok | 05:24 |
| aks | th1a: I've some real good pictures of schooltool training | 05:25 |
| th1a | Oh... ACTUAL SCHOOLTOOL TRAINING. | 05:25 |
| aks | th1a: yeah, uploading them now so that I can share it with you | 05:26 |
| th1a | You can see our slots for pictures in the bottom of this page: http://69.164.203.135/homepage/ | 05:26 |
| aks | th1a: ok | 05:26 |
| th1a | As I said earlier today, this is what the page will look like, but don't read anything or look to closely at any of the pictures. | 05:26 |
| th1a | We'll be assembling it for real tomorrow. | 05:27 |
| aks | th1a: the new website looks awesome, my regards for the designer :) | 05:28 |
| th1a | Thanks. We got some advice from a local (to me) firm this time. | 05:29 |
| aks | th1a: the images are available at http://dev.olenepal.org/Uploads/SchoolTool_Training/ | 05:30 |
| aks | th1a: let me know after you've downloaded the images | 05:30 |
| aks | th1a: they are big size images | 05:30 |
| th1a | This might take a while... | 05:32 |
| aks | th1a: ok, no worrries, check if any one of them is usable to you. these photographs are from a real SchoolTool training. I'm the guy in a blue t-shirt in the photos | 05:33 |
| * th1a is patiently waiting... | 05:33 | |
| th1a | ... and updating the book... | 05:33 |
| th1a | It is nice to just delete some of the more convoluted explanations and caveats. | 05:37 |
| aks | th1a: did you find any picture appropriate for putting on the new website? | 05:47 |
| th1a | Let me see... they're still trickling in. | 05:47 |
| aks | th1a: ah ok | 05:47 |
| th1a | It is not an easy scene to photograph. | 05:49 |
| th1a | Cropping this one might be good: http://dev.olenepal.org/Uploads/SchoolTool_Training/DSC_0199.JPG | 06:02 |
| th1a | replaceafill: do you see that one? | 06:03 |
| replaceafill | dowloading | 06:03 |
| aks | th1a: ok | 06:03 |
| th1a | replaceafill: http://dev.olenepal.org/Uploads/SchoolTool_Training/IMG_5567.JPG is aks | 06:04 |
| replaceafill | old skin schooltool :D | 06:05 |
| th1a | Yeah, that's the only problem. We'll have to photoshop in the new. | 06:06 |
| replaceafill | :| | 06:06 |
| th1a | We just have to get the texture contoured onto aks's face. | 06:06 |
| replaceafill | :D | 06:06 |
| aks | th1a, replaceafill: :D | 06:06 |
| th1a | This'll definitely go in the "Who uses SchoolTool" box so we can refer to it directly. | 06:13 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Have you found anything about the front page support in Sphinx? | 06:17 |
| replaceafill | th1a, not really | 06:20 |
| replaceafill | only "sites that use sphinx" | 06:20 |
| th1a | http://sphinx.pocoo.org/config.html#confval-html_additional_pages ? | 06:23 |
| replaceafill | that means, template -> page | 06:24 |
| replaceafill | jinja template | 06:24 |
| th1a | Ah, http://osdir.com/ml/sphinx-dev/2010-10/msg00079.html | 06:30 |
| th1a | You know it must be possible because the Sphinx site doesn't have the standard Sphinx template. | 06:30 |
| replaceafill | th1a, that sounds like a template -> page conversion | 06:31 |
| replaceafill | pages can be created from rest files or templates that are rendered | 06:32 |
| th1a | Well, I guess it will take some trickery which doesn't actually have to be working tomorrow. | 06:34 |
| replaceafill | th1a, what do you want to do? | 06:34 |
| replaceafill | what feature are you looking for exactly? | 06:34 |
| th1a | Not do it tomorrow. | 06:35 |
| th1a | Well, if nothing else it would probably help with translations to have the whole web presence part of the same system. | 06:35 |
| th1a | Just having everything in Sphinx is what I want. | 06:36 |
| replaceafill | you mean the book and website using the same resources? | 06:36 |
| replaceafill | and being in the same root | 06:36 |
| replaceafill | (branch) | 06:36 |
| th1a | I don't REALLY know what I want. | 06:36 |
| replaceafill | :D | 06:36 |
| th1a | Just that we've got every page except one using Sphinx, and I've known that it was in at least some sense possible to | 06:37 |
| th1a | get that one in there too. | 06:37 |
| th1a | Anyhow, the main thing for the moment is that we shouldn't be worrying about it right now. | 06:37 |
| replaceafill | to me, the website is just a layout template, with a couple of rest files maybe | 06:39 |
| replaceafill | index.html being a template | 06:39 |
| replaceafill | the book is also a template + several rest files | 06:39 |
| th1a | I think I'm going to get up to the gradebook section tonight. | 07:00 |
| replaceafill | :) | 07:02 |
| * replaceafill is fighting the student view of the journal | 07:03 | |
| th1a | Close enough to not embarrass myself too much. | 07:03 |
| th1a | There is a reason there aren't a lot of managers/technical writers. | 07:03 |
| replaceafill | :D | 07:03 |
| th1a | I need someone breathing down my neck, although menesis tries. | 07:03 |
| th1a | Haven't really found any bugs tonight. | 07:04 |
| replaceafill | there are less ;) | 07:04 |
| th1a | add_contact.html still has "Add" button. | 07:24 |
| * replaceafill goes to fix it | 07:25 | |
| th1a | Oh... We can't have two "Other" fields. | 07:26 |
| th1a | We need "Other 1" "Other 2" | 07:26 |
| th1a | Or something... | 07:26 |
| replaceafill | th1a, fixed http://69.164.203.135:6660/contacts/add.html | 07:35 |
| replaceafill | what about the others? | 07:35 |
| th1a | Well, can you easily change it to Other 1 and Other 2? | 07:36 |
| replaceafill | yes | 07:36 |
| th1a | Just do that. | 07:36 |
| th1a | OK, finished up through contacts. Pushing. | 07:38 |
| th1a | I think the new format looks quite a bit better. | 07:38 |
| th1a | Uniform screenshots are good. | 07:38 |
| replaceafill | :) | 07:38 |
| th1a | Have you looked at that? | 07:38 |
| replaceafill | branching right now | 07:39 |
| th1a | OK. Good night. Catch you tomorrow! | 07:39 |
| th1a | Thanks! | 07:39 |
| replaceafill | see u th1a | 07:39 |
| th1a | Thanks aks! | 07:39 |
| aks | th1a: :) | 07:40 |
| replaceafill | th1a, we could add classes for images | 07:43 |
| replaceafill | to make room between them | 07:43 |
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| yvl | good morning? :) | 16:32 |
| yvl | ping th1a | 16:33 |
| th1a | hi yvl, replaceafill, aelkner. | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:35 |
| * th1a squeezed in a quick skate session... | 16:35 | |
| yvl | nice :) | 16:35 |
| th1a | Feeling refreshed and awake. | 16:35 |
| th1a | If sweaty. | 16:35 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:36 |
| th1a | So... menesis? | 16:36 |
| th1a | He's the person we really need to hear from... | 16:37 |
| th1a | yvl? | 16:38 |
| yvl | a moment :) | 16:38 |
| yvl | me is looking for menesis | 16:38 |
| th1a | yvl digs menesis out from under a pile of empty beer cans and cheeze puff wrappers. | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | :)) | 16:39 |
| yvl | he is around here somewhere | 16:39 |
| yvl | just can't seem to find him | 16:39 |
| yvl | can we take a short detour for 10 minutes, th1a ? | 16:39 |
| yvl | I'd like to ask about next big features | 16:39 |
| * yvl was looking at CanDo today, btw | 16:40 | |
| th1a | We have to talk about something in the meantime... | 16:40 |
| th1a | So yes. | 16:40 |
| yvl | thanks | 16:40 |
| yvl | so... what's on your mind? | 16:40 |
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| yvl | are we doing something with CanDo this winter? | 16:41 |
| th1a | Cookies, transcripts, attendance excuse workflow. | 16:41 |
| th1a | Not this winter. | 16:41 |
| th1a | Spring. | 16:41 |
| yvl | ah | 16:41 |
| yvl | ok | 16:41 |
| th1a | Next is "things that should be in any SIS but are not yet in SchoolTool" | 16:41 |
| * yvl thinks merging journal with gradebook would be a good pre-requisite | 16:41 | |
| th1a | Plus catching up with mid 90's web technologies. | 16:41 |
| yvl | :) | 16:41 |
| th1a | Merging or integrating? | 16:41 |
| yvl | both | 16:42 |
| th1a | I don't think they need to be merged. | 16:42 |
| th1a | Journal needs score systems. | 16:42 |
| yvl | to the same package | 16:42 |
| * yvl thinks that would be good | 16:42 | |
| * th1a does not. | 16:42 | |
| yvl | you'r call | 16:42 |
| th1a | Well, it sounds time-consuming. | 16:42 |
| yvl | ????????????????????????????????? | 16:43 |
| th1a | Well, clearly it is a longer conversation. | 16:43 |
| yvl | ok | 16:43 |
| th1a | Let's get to menesis. | 16:43 |
| menesis | ? | 16:43 |
| yvl | sure | 16:43 |
| th1a | menesis? What's up? Where are we? | 16:43 |
| menesis | just came to office after lunch | 16:44 |
| menesis | will start making releases starting from plugins | 16:44 |
| menesis | is there anything I should wait for? | 16:44 |
| th1a | OK. Any problems, concerns, blockers? | 16:44 |
| th1a | Not on my end. | 16:44 |
| th1a | I only found a couple of bugs last night. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Which replaceafill promptly squashed. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Anyone have any last minute concerns? | 16:45 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 16:45 |
| menesis | there were last minute string changes that I don't like | 16:45 |
| th1a | To? | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | like Other 1 and Other 2 | 16:46 |
| menesis | those were new, not translated | 16:46 |
| th1a | OK, maybe just roll that back. | 16:46 |
| menesis | but where did SchoolTool ID come from? | 16:46 |
| th1a | ? | 16:46 |
| * yvl did that | 16:46 | |
| yvl | on th1a's request | 16:47 |
| yvl | for CSV imports | 16:47 |
| replaceafill | schooltool id or school id? | 16:47 |
| menesis | it's a strange name | 16:47 |
| th1a | Does that just specify the ID in the database? | 16:47 |
| menesis | something | 16:47 |
| th1a | That's what I had in mind. | 16:47 |
| yvl | ID in DB | 16:48 |
| th1a | RIght. | 16:48 |
| menesis | but SchoolTool ID just doesn't make sense | 16:48 |
| th1a | That's the login id as well, right? | 16:48 |
| th1a | We have several ID's so just ID isn't sufficient. | 16:48 |
| th1a | Perhaps login id? | 16:48 |
| menesis | the change was from "course ID" to "course SchoolTool ID" or "SchoolTool course ID" (both variants) | 16:49 |
| th1a | ok. | 16:49 |
| * th1a isn't really sure what we're talking about. | 16:50 | |
| menesis | and that was translated before. So I'd like to revert that | 16:50 |
| th1a | to what? | 16:50 |
| th1a | course ID | 16:50 |
| th1a | ? | 16:50 |
| th1a | How many course id's are there? | 16:50 |
| th1a | Is it just in the spreadsheet? | 16:51 |
| th1a | Where does it appear in the interface? | 16:51 |
| menesis | in cvs import description only | 16:51 |
| menesis | little worry | 16:51 |
| menesis | just that I don't like last minute string changes | 16:51 |
| th1a | OH. | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:51 |
| menesis | also last minute is a new string at the top of School page | 16:51 |
| th1a | We're talking about the bug I reported yesterday. | 16:52 |
| menesis | Manage year | 16:52 |
| menesis | althought it is only a tooltip | 16:52 |
| th1a | Only takes about five minutes to figure out what we're talking about. | 16:52 |
| th1a | Let's stick to the course thing. | 16:53 |
| th1a | What we are talking about is the description on the course CSV import? | 16:53 |
| menesis | at first, yes | 16:54 |
| th1a | OK, so the old descriptions didn't match the current field names. | 16:54 |
| th1a | I'd rather have it untranslated and correct than translated and wrong. | 16:54 |
| * th1a goes to look at his. | 16:55 | |
| * replaceafill sees 20 new strings in rosseta for es_SV | 16:56 | |
| th1a | OK, we're going to have to backtrack a second, unfortunately. | 16:57 |
| th1a | How is the database id for a regular course generated? | 16:57 |
| th1a | from the title? | 16:57 |
| th1a | from Course ID? | 16:57 |
| th1a | OK, it seems to be from the title. | 16:58 |
| th1a | Fine. | 16:58 |
| th1a | What does the ID in the CSV specify? | 16:58 |
| th1a | the database id? | 16:58 |
| th1a | I think we're not clear on how the CSV actually works. | 16:59 |
| th1a | Can someone take a quick look at that? | 16:59 |
| th1a | Right now courses have a generated db ID, school ID, alternate ID. | 17:00 |
| yvl | yes | 17:00 |
| th1a | How does this relate to the CSV fields? | 17:00 |
| th1a | course ID, not school ID. | 17:00 |
| th1a | ... | 17:01 |
| menesis | oh don't worry :( | 17:01 |
| menesis | there are bigger problems left than a few new strings | 17:02 |
| th1a | The problem is that this is WRONG. | 17:02 |
| yvl | :) | 17:02 |
| * yvl sighs :) | 17:02 | |
| th1a | Is everyone looking at the CSV import code? | 17:02 |
| th1a | aelkner? | 17:02 |
| yvl | yes | 17:02 |
| yvl | guys | 17:02 |
| yvl | we have School ID | 17:02 |
| yvl | which is a random string for identifying course within school | 17:03 |
| th1a | aargh. | 17:03 |
| yvl | it does not do anything | 17:03 |
| yvl | we have Alternade ID | 17:03 |
| th1a | Not random, right, entered by the user. | 17:03 |
| yvl | yes | 17:03 |
| yvl | free-form I meant | 17:03 |
| yvl | Alternate ID is also a free-form string | 17:03 |
| yvl | just to keep track of government-assigned IDs or whatever users feel comfortable with | 17:03 |
| th1a | On the csv import what are the four columns doing now? | 17:04 |
| yvl | then there's SchoolTool Id | 17:04 |
| th1a | first colum is title | 17:04 |
| yvl | CSV data must include a course title,may include an optional course description, may include an optional course SchoolTool ID, may include an optional Alternate ID and may include an optional credits value. | 17:04 |
| yvl | Example: | 17:04 |
| yvl | Ancient History, Pre-history through 1000 A.D. | 17:04 |
| yvl | US History,,us-history | 17:04 |
| yvl | World History, 1000 A.D. through the 20th century, history-world | 17:04 |
| yvl | Spanish,,,spanish-gov,5 | 17:04 |
| yvl | The above example will create 4 courses titled 'Ancient History', 'US History', 'World History' and 'Spanish'. The first and third courses will have the descriptions 'Pre-history through 1000 A.D.' and '1000 A.D. through the 20th century' respectively. The second and forth courses will have no description. The second, third and forth courses will have their SchoolTool IDs set to us-history and history-world. The forth course will have its Alternate ID set | 17:04 |
| th1a | second colum is description, | 17:04 |
| yvl | to spanish-gov and its credits value set to 5. If you will upload a CSV with titles or course ids that are already present in the database, existing courses will be updated. Course Ids take precedence when determining which course should be updated. | 17:04 |
| yvl | this ^ | 17:04 |
| th1a | third column is database id? | 17:04 |
| yvl | yes | 17:04 |
| th1a | fourth is alternate id | 17:04 |
| yvl | yes | 17:05 |
| th1a | you can't set the "course id" | 17:05 |
| th1a | See what I'm saying? | 17:05 |
| th1a | Only the db and alternate? | 17:05 |
| yvl | true | 17:06 |
| menesis | ok so the description is both changed than what was translated long ago, and still wrong | 17:06 |
| menesis | ? | 17:06 |
| yvl | if you enter: | 17:06 |
| th1a | YES. | 17:06 |
| th1a | Or, strange. | 17:06 |
| yvl | course_1,course_2,course_3,course_4 | 17:06 |
| yvl | you get: | 17:06 |
| yvl | SchoolTool ID | 17:06 |
| yvl | course_3 | 17:06 |
| yvl | Title | 17:06 |
| yvl | course_1 | 17:06 |
| yvl | Description | 17:06 |
| yvl | course_2 | 17:06 |
| yvl | Course ID | 17:06 |
| yvl | course_3 | 17:06 |
| yvl | Alternate ID | 17:06 |
| yvl | course_4 | 17:06 |
| th1a | Thank you! | 17:07 |
| th1a | menesis said: the change was from "course ID" to "course SchoolTool ID" or "SchoolTool course ID" (both variants) | 17:08 |
| th1a | OK, right. Change it back to what it was. | 17:08 |
| th1a | That's the fix. | 17:08 |
| yvl | ??? | 17:08 |
| yvl | are you sure? | 17:08 |
| yvl | because course id and schooltool id are not the same | 17:09 |
| yvl | one is editable by the user, the other is not | 17:09 |
| yvl | if the user changes the latter (course id), database id stays the same | 17:09 |
| th1a | The strange thing is that the generated database ID is based on the title and through CSV it is based on Course ID | 17:09 |
| yvl | yes | 17:09 |
| yvl | it is strange | 17:09 |
| th1a | Based on the title through the web form. | 17:09 |
| yvl | it's a legacy thing | 17:09 |
| th1a | It is a small inconsistency but transparent to the user. | 17:09 |
| yvl | keep in mind, that title is transformed when generating database id | 17:10 |
| th1a | We're good. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Let's move on. | 17:10 |
| th1a | What should I be looking at menesis? | 17:11 |
| menesis | it was just a complaint about changed strings, sorry for the noise | 17:11 |
| menesis | I am more worried about other bugs not fixed | 17:11 |
| th1a | No... | 17:11 |
| menesis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool.lyceum.journal/+bug/882663 | 17:12 |
| th1a | That was a bug. | 17:12 |
| menesis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/882060 | 17:12 |
| th1a | (that is that was a kind of bug, not just late translation) | 17:12 |
| menesis | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/892980 | 17:12 |
| th1a | Are you asking replaceafill about the first one? | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | i'm still on that one | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | sorry, but decided to fix the security issue on the journal first | 17:13 |
| th1a | Do you care about the second one menesis? | 17:13 |
| yvl | 892980 is just missing include in standard config | 17:14 |
| yvl | IIRC | 17:14 |
| menesis | yvl: include is there. does not work for me. | 17:15 |
| yvl | wow | 17:15 |
| menesis | 882060? of course. | 17:15 |
| menesis | groups are one of the first links in /manage | 17:15 |
| menesis | and they show only first 25 members | 17:15 |
| th1a | I guess yvl was very strict in his bug filtering. | 17:17 |
| yvl | umm | 17:17 |
| yvl | I kind of asked to assign bugs that need to be fixed this release to this release | 17:17 |
| th1a | OK, well, we're going ahead with these bugs. | 17:17 |
| th1a | yvl: Yes, I understand. | 17:18 |
| yvl | sorry | 17:18 |
| th1a | We'll all live. | 17:18 |
| th1a | Any other string concerns menesis? | 17:18 |
| menesis | no | 17:20 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:20 |
| th1a | Well, let's go ahead then. | 17:20 |
| menesis | there are only two mostly complete translations: Dutch and El Salvador | 17:21 |
| menesis | everyone else has to translate something anyway | 17:21 |
| th1a | And again, people aren't going to be throwing the switch on this tomorrow. | 17:21 |
| th1a | So yes, let's just get it out. | 17:22 |
| th1a | So this time tomorrow we should be meeting with a new release out and a new website. | 17:23 |
| th1a | And... 75% updated documentation. | 17:24 |
| * th1a doesn't get a bonus. | 17:24 | |
| yvl | :DDD | 17:24 |
| yvl | don't be so hard on yourself :D | 17:24 |
| yvl | it's gonna be a great release | 17:24 |
| yvl | couldn't have done that without you | 17:25 |
| th1a | I've done a better job at managing you guys than managing myself as the technical writer... | 17:25 |
| th1a | But yes, I'm proud of this release, much moreso than any previous one. | 17:25 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:25 |
| yvl | it's better to be in our current situation, than have 75% of software ;) | 17:26 |
| th1a | lol | 17:26 |
| th1a | also, this'll give you some inspiration if you didn't see it from IRC last night: | 17:26 |
| th1a | http://dev.olenepal.org/Uploads/SchoolTool_Training/DSC_0199.JPG | 17:26 |
| yvl | I saw | 17:26 |
| yvl | it did! | 17:26 |
| th1a | http://dev.olenepal.org/Uploads/SchoolTool_Training/IMG_5567.JPG | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:26 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:27 |
| th1a | We'll let menesis get to work. | 17:27 |
| th1a | Thanks for everyone's hard work on this release! | 17:27 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:27 | |
| th1a | aelkner: Do you need something to do? | 17:28 |
| aelkner | only if you want me to do something :) | 17:28 |
| th1a | Do you want to take this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/882060 | 17:28 |
| th1a | I don't think there is anything tricky about it. | 17:28 |
| yvl | th1a, can I bug you a bit more? | 17:29 |
| aelkner | table formatters, yuck :) | 17:29 |
| th1a | yes yvl. | 17:29 |
| aelkner | i can look at it, though | 17:29 |
| aelkner | are we meeting tomorrow? | 17:30 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:30 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll look at that one then | 17:30 |
| yvl | I think the approach of doing some under-the-hood stuff before flourishing worked for us | 17:30 |
| yvl | dev speed seemed ok | 17:30 |
| yvl | I'd like to do the same for this release | 17:30 |
| yvl | but for that I'd need a rough outline of what "big" things we may develop | 17:31 |
| yvl | I'll email you of some of maybe non-obvious stuff on my part | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK. Well, I guess one thing we haven't explicitly discussed is that I'm going to propose to Mark that we plan a big migration, probably to Pyramid (to be decided over the course of the year) | 17:32 |
| th1a | That we'll be doing in roughly a year. | 17:32 |
| th1a | So we have a long release cycle to fill in nagging gaps in user functionality. | 17:33 |
| th1a | The goal is to get to the point where people won't be pestering us for undeniably needed basic features in SchoolTool after next October. | 17:33 |
| th1a | So we can work on the new one. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | i'd really like this fixed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/893186 | 17:33 |
| yvl | that one is high on my list, replaceafill | 17:34 |
| th1a | Yes, I guess you need to be specific replaceafill. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | thanks | 17:34 |
| th1a | be specific yvl, I mean. | 17:34 |
| yvl | hmm, ok | 17:34 |
| th1a | Essentially, I don't want to be doing "big" under the hood stuff at all. | 17:34 |
| th1a | Small under the hood stuff. | 17:35 |
| yvl | that's ok | 17:35 |
| th1a | Small everything really. | 17:35 |
| yvl | it's a bit hard to communicate without hand waving... | 17:35 |
| yvl | I want to know what stuff is essential and what is not | 17:35 |
| yvl | and I don't want to go into huge refactorings | 17:36 |
| th1a | I really want the cookies. | 17:36 |
| yvl | for that - it would help to have an idea of what "undeniably needed basic features" are | 17:36 |
| th1a | The mind map is still a good guide to what needs to be done. | 17:36 |
| yvl | right | 17:36 |
| * yvl looked at it - thanks for putting it down! | 17:37 | |
| yvl | levels? | 17:37 |
| yvl | pathways? | 17:37 |
| th1a | I think the updated one is in LP. | 17:37 |
| th1a | We need to be able to print a transcript. | 17:37 |
| yvl | what is that? | 17:37 |
| th1a | Ah... | 17:37 |
| yvl | ah, right :D | 17:37 |
| yvl | sorry | 17:37 |
| yvl | doh! | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yvl do any of you have admin on schooltool.org? | 17:38 |
| th1a | A record of all the classes a student has taken, yes. | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | i dont want to trouble menesis right now | 17:38 |
| * yvl is admin... it turns out. | 17:39 | |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:39 |
| menesis | what you need done? | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | menesis, i'm trying to log in and says: | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | Permission denied (publickey) | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | i guess it doesnt allow password login, right? | 17:39 |
| yvl | th1a, you'd still like to integrate CanDo in 2012? | 17:39 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:40 |
| yvl | cool | 17:40 |
| th1a | Basically, it is just not the time for big plumbing. | 17:40 |
| yvl | sure! | 17:40 |
| th1a | 2013 may be all plumbing. | 17:40 |
| th1a | And 2014... | 17:41 |
| yvl | :D | 17:41 |
| * yvl is totally ok with that | 17:41 | |
| yvl | even it's 2015 ;) | 17:41 |
| yvl | * even if | 17:41 |
| yvl | hmm | 17:42 |
| yvl | ok | 17:42 |
| th1a | Well, we won't start if it is going to take that long. | 17:42 |
| yvl | (I meant even if it starts on 2015) | 17:42 |
| yvl | ok, so when you have some spare time | 17:43 |
| yvl | please just put some of the places you'd like to work on this winter | 17:43 |
| th1a | Give me a week yvl and I'll have nothing else to do. | 17:43 |
| yvl | of course | 17:43 |
| yvl | actually, when I think about it | 17:44 |
| th1a | But basically the updated mind map should tell you much of what you need to know. | 17:44 |
| yvl | I only really needed to know if we're doing CanDo this release or the next one | 17:44 |
| th1a | Definitely next one. | 17:44 |
| th1a | Ready for them in August. | 17:44 |
| yvl | great | 17:44 |
| yvl | gives us time | 17:44 |
| th1a | Released October as part of SchoolTool. | 17:45 |
| yvl | ok, thanks | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i have access to upload to schooltool.org now | 17:50 |
| th1a | ok. | 17:50 |
| th1a | I'm going to take a shower. | 17:51 |
| th1a | We need populated screenshots of the gradebook and journal. | 17:51 |
| th1a | That's the first annoyance. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | want me to take them? | 17:51 |
| th1a | Sure. Thanks. | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | kk | 17:51 |
| * th1a will be back in 20 minutes. | 17:51 | |
| * th1a is four minutes late. | 18:16 | |
| replaceafill | th1a, i'm using the small sample data xls to get the screenshots | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | that ok? | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | these are for the homepage, right? not for th book | 18:17 |
| th1a | There just have to be a lot of scores, etc. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | kk | 18:17 |
| th1a | Like someone is actually using it. | 18:17 |
| th1a | OK, so which parts are you working on? | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | gradebook screenshot | 18:28 |
| replaceafill | almost done | 18:29 |
| th1a | I'll do intervention. | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | kk | 18:29 |
| th1a | But maybe we should just try to do the panel first. | 18:29 |
| th1a | And make a few other changes to the page for starters. | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:29 |
| replaceafill | just let me finish this sheet | 18:30 |
| th1a | What's the size on the bottom images? | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | let me check | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | column is 304px | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | you can create images with 310px | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | and height: | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | 168px | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | 310x168 px | 18:35 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 18:35 |
| replaceafill | 624x253 px for the slider | 18:35 |
| replaceafill | th1a, is this ok? http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/2209/screenshotat20111122103.png | 18:41 |
| th1a | yeah, you could just add a few more gaps a couple over 100 so there's some yellow. | 18:42 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:42 |
| th1a | Break it up a little more. | 18:42 |
| th1a | I sent the cropped nepal image to you. | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | checking... | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | ah nice! | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:49 |
| th1a | Going downstairs to work on the getting started thing. | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/228/screenshotat20111122105.png | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | better? | 18:56 |
| th1a__ | ok, that's good overall... | 18:57 |
| th1a__ | We'll need a smaller snip for the panel (this one is good for the screenshot page) | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | i'll try to make something like vinny did | 18:57 |
| th1a__ | so throw a few different colored cells in the upper right | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | i mean take a small section for the slider | 18:57 |
| th1a__ | yes. | 18:57 |
| th1a__ | Yes. | 18:58 |
| th1a__ | So you need some color in the upper right. | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:58 |
| th1a__ | And I'm wondering if it would be nice to have the snip at an angle. | 18:58 |
| th1a__ | But yes, do one like Vinny's. | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/homepage/images/slide-1.png | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/homepage/images/slide-2.png | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | should i include the header, like slide-2? | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | or just the gradebook part, like slide-1 | 19:01 |
| * replaceafill likes slide-1 better | 19:01 | |
| th1a__ | Just the grade book part. | 19:01 |
| th1a__ | Esp. since you can already see the header in the homepage. ;-) | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | we should use :hover on the gradebook rows... | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | like we do in other tables | 19:02 |
| th1a__ | Well, don't worry about that now. | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:02 |
| * th1a__ is grabbing some dots. | 19:02 | |
| th1a__ | OK, image sent... | 19:05 |
| replaceafill | got it | 19:06 |
| th1a | Like it? | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | the circles look shaped at the bottom | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | like sitting on something, right? | 19:07 |
| th1a | Hm? | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | maybe it's an illusion :) | 19:07 |
| th1a | Just a sec... | 19:08 |
| th1a | That would be a glitch. | 19:08 |
| th1a | Hm... what size is that? | 19:08 |
| th1a | 645 x 350 | 19:09 |
| th1a | OK, let me fiddle more... | 19:09 |
| replaceafill | 310x168 for the bottom boxes | 19:09 |
| replaceafill | 624x253 for the slider | 19:09 |
| th1a__ | Yes, I know. | 19:10 |
| th1a__ | Omnigraffle isn't optimized for small pixel based layouts... | 19:10 |
| th1a__ | I see... | 19:10 |
| th1a__ | Oh, they seem to be in the icons themselves. | 19:11 |
| th1a | Let me see if they are in the vectors. | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | lol, i was trying to use a screenshot as the gradebook :P | 19:18 |
| th1a__ | The map is not the territory. | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3641/slide1j.png | 19:20 |
| th1a__ | try tilting it to the left about 12 degrees. | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | :| | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:21 |
| th1a__ | Get a little more of the upper right. | 19:21 |
| th1a__ | left | 19:21 |
| th1a__ | I mean | 19:21 |
| replaceafill | including the worksheet name? | 19:22 |
| th1a__ | In the interest of not driving you crazy, I can do the cropping. | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | :D | 19:22 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll send you the full screenshot | 19:23 |
| th1a__ | lol | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | or i can set the Data.fs | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | in the vps | 19:23 |
| th1a__ | Also, the psd images are round at the bottom. | 19:23 |
| th1a__ | Send me the screenshot. | 19:23 |
| replaceafill | sent | 19:27 |
| th1a | ditto | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | i like the last version | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | tighter circles | 19:29 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:29 |
| replaceafill | ok, now the journal? | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | i mean, screenshot | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | or should i start with the page? | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | putting things in place | 19:30 |
| th1a | Um... might as well go on. I'm going to do this crop and then go get Vivian. | 19:30 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:31 |
| th1a | We can start the layout in earnest in about 45 minutes. | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:31 |
| th1a | Actually, can we try this in the panel... ? | 19:36 |
| th1a | I just sent a crop. | 19:36 |
| th1a | We'll get a pretty quick idea on whether angled looks good or bad. | 19:36 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | :O | 19:37 |
| replaceafill | i like it | 19:37 |
| th1a | lol | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | if it only moved ;) | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | it looks like it's coming to you :D | 19:38 |
| th1a | I did take some design classes in college... | 19:38 |
| replaceafill | critical links is going to the slider, right? | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | or a bottom box? | 19:39 |
| th1a | Today, neither. | 19:39 |
| * replaceafill is checking the image inventory | 19:39 | |
| replaceafill | ah, ok | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | never mind then | 19:39 |
| th1a | Can I see the angle shot? | 19:39 |
| replaceafill | ok, let me update the branch | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/homepage/ | 19:42 |
| replaceafill | i wonder if we can pause the slider... | 19:42 |
| th1a | We definitely need to slow it down. | 19:43 |
| th1a | DEFINITELY. | 19:43 |
| * replaceafill looks into that | 19:43 | |
| th1a | OK, so angles are good then. | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:43 |
| replaceafill | looks good | 19:43 |
| th1a | OK, let's reverse my plan and make a few quick changes then. | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | to? | 19:44 |
| th1a | Change the header to "SchoolTool: the Free Global Student Information System" | 19:44 |
| th1a | The title. | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | kk | 19:44 |
| replaceafill | can you break that up in two lines? | 19:45 |
| replaceafill | SchoolTool: the Free Global | 19:45 |
| replaceafill | Student Information System | 19:45 |
| replaceafill | ? | 19:45 |
| th1a | Let me see it one way. | 19:45 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:46 |
| replaceafill | reload | 19:46 |
| th1a | Take "Free" out. | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | gone | 19:47 |
| th1a | PUt the nepal image bottom middle and the pictograms bottom right. | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | the free part was the one i liked :( | 19:47 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:48 |
| th1a | We've got that green "title" there ready for it. | 19:48 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 19:49 |
| replaceafill | the last picto is too big for the box | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | resizing | 19:50 |
| th1a | Hm? | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | 645x350 | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | boxes are 310x168 | 19:50 |
| th1a | You can scale it in gimp. | 19:50 |
| replaceafill | yes | 19:50 |
| th1a | It is the right proportions. | 19:50 |
| th1a | I just forgot that step. | 19:50 |
| th1a | I have a multi-computer graphics workflow. | 19:51 |
| th1a | OK... I have to go get Vivian now... | 19:51 |
| th1a | You can work on journal and daily calendar screenshots... | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:51 |
| replaceafill | th1a, nice! | 19:54 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/homepage/ | 19:54 |
| * replaceafill goes to get lunch | 20:08 | |
| * th1a back | 20:25 | |
| * replaceafill back | 20:32 | |
| th1a | The pictogram image is a little blurry, but I'm not sure what can be done about that. | 20:32 |
| th1a | I think the nepal image looks pretty good. | 20:33 |
| th1a | What do you think? | 20:33 |
| replaceafill | i think i'm going to crop the pictogram to 304px exactly | 20:33 |
| replaceafill | looks a little to the right | 20:33 |
| replaceafill | because of the extra 6px | 20:34 |
| th1a | oh. | 20:34 |
| replaceafill | yeah, that's better | 20:38 |
| th1a | I need to do a wider version of the Shuttleworth Foundation teacher pic, right? | 20:39 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:39 |
| replaceafill | that's going in What's New? | 20:40 |
| replaceafill | or the first box :) | 20:40 |
| replaceafill | (in case we change the What's New) | 20:40 |
| th1a | Pretty much "SchoolTool 2.0 released" | 20:41 |
| th1a | :-D | 20:41 |
| replaceafill | http://nivo.dev7studios.com/support/jquery-plugin-usage/ | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | in case you want to know the options of the slider ;) | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | i guess we only need an appropriate pauseTime | 20:45 |
| th1a | y | 20:47 |
| th1a | btw, we've got some crazy transitions in the book image zoom now. | 20:47 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i see the same in all of them | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/book/ | 20:49 |
| th1a | ALL CRAZY. | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | starts from the center and zooms, right? | 20:50 |
| th1a | Does it drop out too? | 20:50 |
| replaceafill | hhmm no | 20:50 |
| * replaceafill is checking all the images | 20:51 | |
| th1a | I see it dropping down to appear. | 20:51 |
| th1a | There's like a zoom out then a drop. | 20:51 |
| th1a | The fade out is fine. | 20:51 |
| th1a | sent cropped picture for bottom left. | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | ok | 20:52 |
| replaceafill | reload | 20:53 |
| replaceafill | slider uses 5 seconds pause | 20:54 |
| th1a | Make it 10 for now. | 20:56 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:56 |
| replaceafill | done | 20:57 |
| th1a | Maybe the How to Get Started header/image should be in the middle. | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | ok | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | switching... | 21:00 |
| replaceafill | done | 21:03 |
| th1a | Better visually if a little less logical. | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | if we're going to keep the slogan in one line, we should move it below a little | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | the spanish version for example stays too close to the search box | 21:05 |
| th1a | Do you think the icons are better in the middle? | 21:05 |
| th1a | Yes, it should move down. | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | i liked the picto to the right, but maybe it's just because i got used to it | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | and you want people using it more instead of they knowing who other people use it | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | :) | 21:06 |
| th1a | No, just separating the "teachers looking at computers" pictures. | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | that too :) | 21:07 |
| th1a | I like having pictures of teachers rather than just random school related pictures. | 21:07 |
| replaceafill | ah it's definitely better than the empty classroom | 21:08 |
| th1a | Well... yes! | 21:08 |
| replaceafill | ok, moving the the title a little... | 21:08 |
| th1a | OK for the green title... | 21:08 |
| th1a | "Free Administrative Tools for Schools Around the World" | 21:09 |
| th1a | ? | 21:09 |
| replaceafill | hhmm tools is too generic imho | 21:09 |
| replaceafill | but i'll try it | 21:09 |
| th1a | Free administrative... Software? | 21:10 |
| replaceafill | hhm yes! | 21:10 |
| replaceafill | :) | 21:10 |
| replaceafill | the Free? or just Free? | 21:10 |
| th1a | Below that "SchoolTool is designed for deployment in schools in the developing world" | 21:11 |
| th1a | Just Free. | 21:11 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:12 |
| th1a | change "automated deployment" to "automated installation" | 21:12 |
| th1a | No... the GREEN title. That says "Title" | 21:12 |
| replaceafill | oops | 21:12 |
| th1a | np | 21:12 |
| replaceafill | i can handle "Tools" in that title then :) | 21:13 |
| replaceafill | i just thought we were talking about the slogan :) | 21:14 |
| th1a | Well, try it as software. | 21:14 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:15 |
| replaceafill | that green title needs bottom margin | 21:15 |
| replaceafill | right? | 21:15 |
| th1a | Yes. | 21:16 |
| replaceafill | hhmm reload | 21:17 |
| replaceafill | the box is growing | 21:17 |
| th1a | Down? | 21:17 |
| replaceafill | yes | 21:17 |
| th1a | Below that "SchoolTool is designed for deployment in schools in the developing world" | 21:17 |
| replaceafill | oh sorry, ok | 21:17 |
| th1a | That's the new opening clause there. | 21:17 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:19 |
| replaceafill | like that? | 21:19 |
| replaceafill | too many SchoolTools | 21:20 |
| replaceafill | well, it's the name of the app ;) | 21:20 |
| th1a | No... replacing the opening clause. | 21:20 |
| th1a | They are quite similar... | 21:20 |
| th1a | replacing SchoolTool is particularly well suited for deployment in the developing world | 21:21 |
| replaceafill | kk | 21:21 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:21 |
| replaceafill | wait! | 21:21 |
| replaceafill | ah no | 21:22 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:22 |
| replaceafill | did i mess the clauses? | 21:22 |
| th1a | No, that's right. | 21:22 |
| replaceafill | i should start indenting this html5... | 21:22 |
| replaceafill | the spaces used by Schwa are confusing | 21:23 |
| th1a | We probably don't need the second paragraph right there. | 21:23 |
| replaceafill | we can talk about that in the second box mabye | 21:23 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:23 |
| th1a | How about "SchoolTool is an open source, web based student information system designed for... | 21:25 |
| replaceafill | reaload | 21:26 |
| th1a | Snip the first "deployment in" and switch "installation" back to "deployment" | 21:27 |
| th1a | I'm sorry I can't really finalize this stuff without seeing it... | 21:27 |
| replaceafill | np | 21:27 |
| replaceafill | reaload | 21:28 |
| th1a | fo schools ;-) | 21:28 |
| replaceafill | oops | 21:28 |
| replaceafill | fixed | 21:28 |
| th1a | What do you think of the margins on all these boxes? | 21:29 |
| th1a | Are the closer to the edges than the UWS margins? | 21:29 |
| th1a | UWG | 21:29 |
| replaceafill | if you mean the padding, they use 10px | 21:30 |
| replaceafill | let me check the guidelines | 21:30 |
| replaceafill | p13 | 21:30 |
| replaceafill | 8 px | 21:30 |
| replaceafill | setting 8px | 21:31 |
| th1a | http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu | 21:31 |
| replaceafill | those use 15px | 21:32 |
| th1a | I'm talking about the space between the text and the edge of the box. | 21:32 |
| replaceafill | What is an operating system? | 21:32 |
| replaceafill | right? | 21:32 |
| th1a | Yes. | 21:32 |
| replaceafill | padding: 15px 20px | 21:32 |
| replaceafill | 15px top down | 21:32 |
| replaceafill | 20px left right | 21:32 |
| th1a | That's better spacing. | 21:32 |
| replaceafill | ok, using 20px for left and right then | 21:33 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:35 |
| replaceafill | the green title box looks ok to me | 21:36 |
| replaceafill | the other boxes got updated too, but i dont like it | 21:36 |
| replaceafill | maybe a little more of top margin for the bottom boxes? | 21:36 |
| replaceafill | i mean for their text | 21:36 |
| th1a | Yes. | 21:36 |
| th1a | Unfortunately that pushes the green headline into three lines. | 21:37 |
| replaceafill | check the bottom boxes | 21:39 |
| replaceafill | well the green title uses 20px font-size | 21:39 |
| replaceafill | we can use 18px? | 21:39 |
| th1a | y | 21:40 |
| replaceafill | check the boxes again :) | 21:40 |
| replaceafill | i gave them more line-height | 21:40 |
| th1a | Yeah, I was thinking that. | 21:40 |
| th1a | See how much of this fits in "What's New?" | 21:42 |
| th1a | SchoolTool 2.0 Released! | 21:42 |
| th1a | SchoolTool 2.0 represents a complete rethinking of SchoolTool's web interface from the organization of the application as a whole to the layout of each form and button. | 21:42 |
| th1a | The staring point for the redesign was the Ubuntu Web Design Guidelines and the free Ubuntu font, both created by Canonical Design. We developed a new color scheme and logo with Schwadesign. This gave us a clear, attractive and consistent foundation for all our web assets across our homepage, documentation, and the SchoolTool application itself. | 21:42 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | i guess we're not really using the "learn more" links right? | 21:48 |
| th1a | Um... perhaps. | 21:48 |
| th1a | That's this evening's fun. | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | :| | 21:48 |
| th1a | But I'll be adding to the book, not bugging you so much. | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | np | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | do you like the first box? | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | so i make the others the same height? | 21:49 |
| th1a | I was thinking just cut that off with ellipses at the height the others are. | 21:49 |
| th1a | That's why you need the learn more there... | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | i'll cut in Guidelines, ok? | 21:50 |
| th1a | Sure. | 21:50 |
| replaceafill | or the Ubuntu font ;) | 21:50 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:51 |
| th1a | That's good. | 21:52 |
| th1a | There could be less space after the text. | 21:52 |
| th1a | Did you try shrinking the green title? | 21:53 |
| replaceafill | reload | 21:55 |
| th1a | Good. Could probably have a little more padding at top. | 21:56 |
| th1a | We should probably get back to screenshots. | 21:58 |
| th1a | Or probably you should get back to screenshots and I'll work on the rest of the front page text. | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | ok, reload | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | sorry, i was giving more room to the paragraphs | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | i mean to the top right paragraph | 21:59 |
| replaceafill | reload | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | gave more room to the slogan | 22:00 |
| th1a__ | I don't think we'll have a learn more at top right. | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:00 |
| th1a__ | Good. Looks good on the Mac. | 22:00 |
| replaceafill | ok,, final reload :) | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | everything looks ok? | 22:03 |
| th1a__ | Yes… nothing is bothering me at the moment. ;-) | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:04 |
| th1a__ | I just need to pull together some scatter snippets now... | 22:06 |
| replaceafill | th1a, we also need rounded images for the slider | 22:12 |
| th1a__ | Oh… we have to round them? | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | yes, the slider uses the plain image | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | i thought it was the one that added the border radius | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | but it doesnt :( | 22:13 |
| th1a__ | OK… do you know how to do that in the gimp? | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:13 |
| th1a__ | OK, that's a LOW priority bug right now. | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | great, now we have bugs on the website ;) | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | oh no :( | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | the journal js is broken | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | and the cell backgrounds dont work | 22:27 |
| th1a | Agh. | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | adding it to the css bug... | 22:27 |
| th1a | Fix it for the screenshot. | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:28 |
| th1a | :D | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | not for the users, but for the screenshot :D | 22:28 |
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| th1a_ | replaceafill: Can you throw me that homepage url? | 22:38 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135/homepage/ | 22:39 |
| th1a_ | thanks | 22:40 |
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| th1a_ | replaceafill: Sent some text. | 22:53 |
| replaceafill | kk | 22:55 |
| replaceafill | updated | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | should i cut it? | 22:57 |
| replaceafill | or does the installation link in the book say the same? | 22:57 |
| th1a_ | No, it is a different text. I'll edit it for length. Or something. | 22:58 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:58 |
| th1a_ | Actually, maybe that can be the standard length. | 22:59 |
| th1a_ | There's not that much text there. | 22:59 |
| th1a_ | on the page in general | 22:59 |
| replaceafill | ok, i should put back the rest of what's new then | 22:59 |
| th1a_ | Yeah, let's see that. | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | reload | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | if you could take a few words out :) | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | or we can match the heights with no prob | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | it's just a few pixels different | 23:01 |
| replaceafill | reload | 23:04 |
| replaceafill | heights matched | 23:04 |
| th1a_ | I guess take out the developer part -- that's not relevant to getting started. | 23:06 |
| th1a_ | And add in "supports installation on Ubuntu Linux using the Ubuntu Software..." | 23:06 |
| replaceafill | reload | 23:07 |
| replaceafill | is the "learn more" link in "how to get started" going to point to ubuntu.com? | 23:08 |
| th1a_ | No, the book. | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | ah | 23:08 |
| replaceafill | ok | 23:08 |
| th1a_ | Those can be links in the text though to: | 23:08 |
| th1a_ | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | "download and install" | 23:09 |
| th1a_ | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/windows-installer | 23:09 |
| replaceafill | or just download | 23:09 |
| th1a_ | as it is. | 23:09 |
| th1a_ | maybe make the last sentence a separate paragraph | 23:10 |
| th1a_ | and "such as" instead of "like" | 23:10 |
| th1a_ | also... We'll need to add in more links in the obvious places. | 23:10 |
| th1a_ | But don't worry about it now. | 23:11 |
| * th1a_ goes to make dinner. | 23:11 | |
| replaceafill | ok, done | 23:11 |
| replaceafill | let's add the links at the end | 23:11 |
| th1a | Hm... it is getting late in Lithuania... | 23:16 |
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