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| th1a | replaceafill: Did I give you the password for our Linode account? | 16:30 |
| th1a | Or just the server? | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | both | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | you need it? | 16:31 |
| th1a | Could you send me the password for the account. | 16:31 |
| th1a | ? | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | sure | 16:31 |
| th1a | I need to update the credit card. | 16:31 |
| th1a | hi replaceafill, aelkner_, menesis, yvl. | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | th1a, sent, username:pwd | 16:33 |
| aelkner_ | morning | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:33 |
| yvl | good morning | 16:33 |
| th1a | OK, so we've got more colors from Vinny and have a phone meeting today to try to push the homepage over the line soonish. | 16:34 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Did you update the colors? | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | 1. buttons | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/add.html | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | 2. error messages | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | 3. calendars (daily, weekly, monthly, yearly, sidebar calendars) | 16:35 |
| menesis | hi | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | (i don't like the secondary color for calendar columns btw) | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | 4. the gradebook (log in as teacher001 and go to Gradebook) | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | add an activity and add an invalid value like -30 or something | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | a valid one | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | and an extra credit (you'll get the yellow) | 16:37 |
| th1a | Oh... we don't have the primary/secondary distinction. | 16:37 |
| th1a | I mean, we do. | 16:37 |
| th1a | But we lost it. | 16:37 |
| th1a | We just called it something different. | 16:37 |
| th1a | Let's take these in order. | 16:38 |
| th1a | Everyone needs this: http://www.schwadesign.com/basecamp/2591274/2682003phase1/schooltool_looseends_1_0.pdf | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | note that the secondary background for calendars in the pdf is wrong | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | (it's repeated) | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | #4B5554 | 16:39 |
| th1a | OK, let's start at the beginning, ok? | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:40 |
| th1a | ok ;-) | 16:40 |
| th1a | So only one of our button classes should actually be green when inactive. | 16:40 |
| th1a | See UWG p. 24. | 16:40 |
| th1a | I misled you a little yesterday because I wasn't looking at that. | 16:41 |
| th1a | I can't remember what we call the classes. | 16:42 |
| replaceafill | button-ok, button-cancel, button-neutral | 16:42 |
| th1a | Yeah, just ok should be green when inactive. | 16:42 |
| th1a | Let's try #009499 for the others. | 16:42 |
| th1a | Actually, let's stick a pin in this and let everyone else report. | 16:43 |
| th1a | Then come back to it. | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | sure | 16:43 |
| th1a | Well, replaceafill you can do your report. | 16:43 |
| replaceafill | that's it actually | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | i'm going to finish the book today | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | (i mean, styling it) | 16:44 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:44 |
| aelkner_ | can i go next? | 16:44 |
| th1a | aelkner_: Sure. | 16:44 |
| aelkner_ | http://69.164.203.135:36660/report_sheets | 16:44 |
| aelkner_ | please look at the choices i made for Alternate Title | 16:44 |
| aelkner_ | you had asked me to put 'This will appear as a tab in the teacher's gradebook' | 16:45 |
| aelkner_ | but the template title already does that by default | 16:45 |
| th1a | aelkner is the master of the redundant hint. | 16:45 |
| aelkner_ | so such a hint would mislead to imply that one needs to fill it in | 16:45 |
| aelkner_ | but it is optional, right? | 16:45 |
| aelkner_ | so that's why i said that | 16:46 |
| aelkner_ | what would you have me change? | 16:46 |
| th1a | The right way to do it would be to just make it the title and insert the title of the selected template using Javascript. | 16:46 |
| aelkner_ | ah, darn, i left that out | 16:47 |
| aelkner_ | i could do that that | 16:47 |
| aelkner_ | ok, click on the other year | 16:47 |
| th1a | And then make it required. | 16:47 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 16:47 |
| aelkner_ | see how the link is not enabled | 16:47 |
| th1a | For better or worse that's not how we're doing it elsewhere. | 16:48 |
| th1a | We're just completely hiding inactive actions. | 16:48 |
| aelkner_ | how are we doing it elsewhere? | 16:48 |
| aelkner_ | i tried that, but then the sidebar appears as a blank space rhater than not appearing at all | 16:48 |
| th1a | It may be the only place where the only action is conditional. | 16:49 |
| aelkner_ | yeah | 16:49 |
| th1a | Thoughts? | 16:49 |
| aelkner_ | yvl? | 16:50 |
| yvl | hmm | 16:50 |
| yvl | there are more places like that | 16:50 |
| yvl | the viewlet manager just has to render an empty string | 16:51 |
| aelkner_ | page.pt has the rendering of the manager | 16:51 |
| yvl | see skin/flourish/page.py RefineLinksViewlet | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | <div class="sidebar refine" tal:define="refine view/providers/page_refine|nothing" | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | tal:condition="refine"> | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | problem is, even if the viewlet renders nothing, the manager still exists, so it renders an empty manager | 16:52 |
| aelkner_ | how is one to make the manager render nothing? | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | course.browser.section.SectionActionsLinks | 16:53 |
| aelkner_ | ok, i'll look at that | 16:55 |
| yvl | thanks, replaceafill | 16:55 |
| yvl | I was looking for that | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | :) | 16:55 |
| aelkner_ | yeah, thanks | 16:55 |
| aelkner_ | ok, finally, the evolve script tests | 16:55 |
| aelkner_ | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/flourish/view/head:/src/schooltool/gradebook/generations/tests/test_evolve3.py | 16:56 |
| aelkner_ | note the handler registered on line 69 | 16:56 |
| th1a | For the "Title" hint how about "If you deploy the same template multiple times, give each deployment an easily distinguishable name." | 16:56 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | now look at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aelkner/schooltool.gradebook/flourish/view/head:/src/schooltool/gradebook/generations/tests/test_evolve5.py | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | note that the handler registered in test_evolve3.py is forcing me to add the output to tests in test_evolve5.py | 16:57 |
| aelkner_ | is there a way to unregister a handler? | 16:58 |
| yvl | ouch | 16:58 |
| yvl | you need to do setup and teardown | 16:58 |
| aelkner_ | more specifically? | 16:58 |
| yvl | say, from zope.app.testing import setup | 16:59 |
| yvl | and then add placeless setup/teardown | 16:59 |
| yvl | for exmaple, like schooltool/generations/tests/test_evolve37.py | 16:59 |
| aelkner_ | you're suggesting these changes to test_evolve3.py, right? | 17:00 |
| yvl | well, yes, that one is wrong | 17:00 |
| yvl | you should also check other gradebook evolution scripts | 17:00 |
| yvl | not providing setup/teardown with zope... is not a good idea. | 17:01 |
| aelkner_ | btw, who wrote evolve4.py because there are no tests for that? | 17:01 |
| yvl | that might be me :/ | 17:02 |
| yvl | lemme check | 17:02 |
| yvl | yep | 17:03 |
| yvl | my fault. | 17:03 |
| th1a | ouch | 17:03 |
| yvl | not that bad | 17:03 |
| th1a | :-D | 17:03 |
| yvl | I think that happened when we had to package stuff and kill optionstorage in a hurry | 17:04 |
| yvl | crazy days | 17:04 |
| aelkner_ | ok, i'll fix test_evolve3 if you create test_evolve4, ok? | 17:04 |
| yvl | and if I don't? :D | 17:04 |
| yvl | sorry, just teasing | 17:04 |
| aelkner_ | :) | 17:04 |
| yvl | will do :) | 17:04 |
| menesis | :) | 17:05 |
| aelkner_ | perhaps you should wait until i fix first so that you don't need to do the same redundantly | 17:05 |
| yvl | yes | 17:05 |
| yvl | I still have 4 failing func tests to go | 17:05 |
| yvl | * to fix | 17:05 |
| aelkner_ | ok, that's it for my report | 17:05 |
| yvl | and there's code that needs to be fixed along the way, so.. | 17:06 |
| th1a | So hopefully you'll be on to new bugs by tomorrow at the latest? | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | yes | 17:06 |
| th1a | I set some "critical" for you aelkner_. | 17:06 |
| aelkner_ | cool | 17:07 |
| th1a | OK, thanks aelkner_. | 17:07 |
| th1a | yvl? | 17:07 |
| yvl | fixed func tests + code in core | 17:08 |
| yvl | and journal | 17:08 |
| yvl | 4 failing func. tests left in gradebook | 17:08 |
| yvl | I guess I'll be by Fri | 17:08 |
| yvl | then on to bug fixing | 17:08 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:09 |
| th1a | That it? | 17:09 |
| yvl | yes | 17:09 |
| th1a | Thanks yvl. | 17:09 |
| th1a | menesis? | 17:09 |
| menesis | I have discovered problems in recent Debian uploads | 17:10 |
| menesis | missing zcml files | 17:10 |
| menesis | I have reported this to Debian zope mailing list, and got these issues fixed | 17:10 |
| menesis | and new packages uploaded | 17:11 |
| menesis | I need those be in Debian to be able to sync to Ubuntu | 17:11 |
| menesis | that is what I was trying to do | 17:11 |
| menesis | later | 17:11 |
| menesis | turned to schooltool packages | 17:12 |
| menesis | schooltool now has 2 jquery and 2 jquery-ui libraries | 17:12 |
| menesis | only one of them is replaced by system-installed jquery | 17:12 |
| menesis | so I am consolidating them to have only 1 copy | 17:13 |
| menesis | and also replace included jqueryui with libjs-jquery-ui | 17:13 |
| menesis | in progress | 17:13 |
| menesis | most of today helped my wife formatting her book | 17:14 |
| menesis | :( | 17:14 |
| th1a | What's her book about? | 17:14 |
| menesis | a book she has to publish | 17:15 |
| menesis | her father's book for students, "dictionary of political terms" | 17:16 |
| th1a | Ah. | 17:16 |
| th1a | OK, thanks menesis. | 17:16 |
| th1a | Back to replaceafill then. | 17:16 |
| * menesis : | 17:17 | |
| th1a | Or more menesis... | 17:17 |
| replaceafill | :) | 17:17 |
| menesis | no | 17:17 |
| * menesis away | 17:17 | |
| th1a | OK. ;-) | 17:18 |
| th1a | yvl, and aelkner_ can pay attention to the colors conversation as long as they want. | 17:18 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:18 | |
| th1a | Let's squash some bugs here in the final days! | 17:19 |
| yvl | just 5c for colours | 17:19 |
| aelkner_ | yvl, i send you an email when i've merged my evolve fix to trunk | 17:19 |
| yvl | buttons don't look pushed when you push them on Chromium | 17:19 |
| yvl | thanks, aelkner_ | 17:19 |
| replaceafill | yvl, you mean 3 states? inactive, hover and active? | 17:19 |
| yvl | yes | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | they shouldn't in ff either | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | we only have 2 colors | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | hover and active are the same | 17:20 |
| yvl | well, ff 3.x does push the button text few pixels to the right | 17:20 |
| yvl | when clicked | 17:20 |
| replaceafill | ah yes, i noticed that too :| | 17:21 |
| replaceafill | have no idea where it comes from :( | 17:21 |
| th1a | Well, we probably should give them a third color. | 17:21 |
| th1a | We essentially have enough shades of greens and grays to figure out what we need without committing any color atrocities. | 17:22 |
| yvl | true | 17:24 |
| yvl | well, good luck guys! | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you ok with the round corners on the buttons? | 17:24 |
| replaceafill | i took that from the guidelines | 17:25 |
| th1a | Yeah... Vinny kind of wandered away from the guidelines again. | 17:25 |
| th1a | Hard to get the "no really, we just need colors" part into the head of a designer. ;-) | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:26 |
| replaceafill | the guidelines define "primary" and "secondary" buttons | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | are we doing the same? | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | like marking just one differently | 17:28 |
| th1a | Primary is the what do we call it? OK? | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | we don't have a primary class | 17:29 |
| th1a | It is the same thing. | 17:29 |
| th1a | Primary = OK. | 17:29 |
| th1a | Right? | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | hhmm not really | 17:29 |
| th1a | Why not? | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | sometimes we use two button-ok in one form | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | in add person for example | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | Submit and Submit and Add | 17:30 |
| th1a | Well, that's an error in the page. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | so, we're sticking to the guidelines approach then | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | 1 principal, many secondary | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | sorry, primary | 17:30 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | and we're marking the primary differently | 17:30 |
| th1a | Hm? | 17:31 |
| th1a | Basically just use OK as primary and we should clean up the usage so there is one per page. | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | but we're not using different colors like in the guidelines? | 17:32 |
| replaceafill | (sorry to keep asking the same) | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK uses primary colors. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Others use secondary colors. | 17:33 |
| th1a | Yes? | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | maybe my question is, what is the primary color and what is the secondary one? | 17:33 |
| th1a | Let's try #009499 for the others. | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | now i'm satisfied ;) | 17:34 |
| th1a | I said that a half hour ago. ;-) | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | sorry :( | 17:34 |
| th1a | Try the header color for all the active states. | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | #4B5554, right/ | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | ? | 17:35 |
| th1a | y | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | ok, active state set, refresh | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | what about hover? | 17:37 |
| th1a | Use his hover. | 17:38 |
| th1a | Actually, update the classes on person add since that's what I'm looking at... | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 17:42 |
| th1a | Uh, that's the opposite. | 17:43 |
| th1a | Also, I guess that gray's too light. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:43 |
| th1a | #009499 | 17:44 |
| th1a | The primary should be green. | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | #009499 is the active too | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | sorry | 17:44 |
| replaceafill | never mind | 17:44 |
| th1a | Oh, I guess UWG uses the inactive primary color for the secondary hover color. | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | what do you think of that gray? | 17:46 |
| replaceafill | the active one | 17:47 |
| th1a | That's way too light. | 17:47 |
| th1a | We just need a darker green than the hover color. | 17:47 |
| replaceafill | have you refreshed? | 17:47 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | i'm talking about the secondary buttons color | 17:48 |
| th1a | It is light gray? | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | no, dark gray | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | i reverted the grays | 17:48 |
| th1a | The active? | 17:48 |
| replaceafill | dark = secondary, light = active | 17:48 |
| th1a | The active color is light gray. | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | but do you like dark gray for secondary buttons? | 17:49 |
| th1a | For all of them. | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:49 |
| th1a | I don't like the light gray. | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:49 |
| th1a | Who's on first? | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:49 |
| replaceafill | i love that routine ;) | 17:49 |
| th1a | How does the primary hover color relate to the greens in the header? | 17:50 |
| th1a | Is it a different green? | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | this is what we use for primary nav #008C93 | 17:50 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:50 |
| th1a | And the darker header green? | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | i always forget that one! #026B6E | 17:51 |
| th1a | OK: | 17:52 |
| th1a | Primary inactive: #009499 | 17:52 |
| th1a | Primary hover: #026B6E | 17:53 |
| th1a | Primary active: #056163 | 17:53 |
| th1a | Try that. | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 17:55 |
| th1a | Try #008C93 for the hover. | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | ok | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 17:56 |
| th1a | OK, those two are too similar to each other. | 17:57 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:57 |
| th1a | OK, go back to #026B6E for hover. | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | done | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | now, hover and active are too similar | 17:59 |
| th1a | Change the active text color to #aea79f | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | done | 18:00 |
| th1a | *TEXT* color. | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | oops | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | sorry th1a | 18:01 |
| th1a | np | 18:01 |
| replaceafill | done | 18:01 |
| th1a | What do you think of that? | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | to me it looks good on chrome, not so much in ff | 18:03 |
| replaceafill | and my chrome is not using the ubuntu font for buttons... | 18:04 |
| th1a | My chrome is crashing. | 18:04 |
| th1a | I'm going to switch computers... | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:05 |
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| th1a_ | What is up with the font? | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | it's using Arial, inherited from the browser... | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | do you see it? | 18:08 |
| th1a_ | Yeah. | 18:08 |
| th1a_ | This is the kind of point where I have not idea what I expect buttons to look like. | 18:09 |
| th1a_ | I don't think I expect a dramatic change in the active state anyhow. | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | i don't understand this chrome inspector tool :( | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | it resets the font-family | 18:11 |
| replaceafill | but i don't see any other declaration in our css | 18:11 |
| th1a_ | Well, lets do colors first | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:12 |
| th1a | So how do you feel about the primaries? | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | i'm ok with them | 18:13 |
| th1a | Me too. | 18:14 |
| th1a | OK so secondaries: | 18:14 |
| th1a | How about the table header color for the inactive. | 18:15 |
| th1a | ? | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:15 |
| th1a | Try that first. | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | #6C7B7C | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | ah nice | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 18:16 |
| replaceafill | it fits with the primary inactive | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | imho | 18:17 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:17 |
| th1a | Make the primary active the secondary hover. | 18:17 |
| th1a | NO | 18:17 |
| th1a | Sorry! | 18:17 |
| th1a | Primary inactive = secondary hover. | 18:17 |
| th1a | And give them the same active. | 18:17 |
| replaceafill | !?!?! | 18:18 |
| replaceafill | let me read that again | 18:18 |
| th1a | Primary inactive = secondary hover. | 18:18 |
| th1a | And give them the same active. | 18:18 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:18 |
| replaceafill | done | 18:19 |
| th1a | I still have that light gray for active. | 18:20 |
| replaceafill | have we set secondary active? | 18:20 |
| th1a | secondary active = primary active | 18:21 |
| th1a | And give them the same active. | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:21 |
| replaceafill | missed the second instruction, sorry | 18:21 |
| * replaceafill is out of his head today for some reason | 18:22 | |
| th1a | We can take a quick break before continuing... | 18:22 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 18:22 |
| replaceafill | same active | 18:22 |
| th1a | Did our primary inactive get darker? | 18:23 |
| th1a | Oh, | 18:24 |
| th1a | I didn't want you to change the primary inactive, I wanted you to change the secondary hover. | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | :'''''( | 18:24 |
| replaceafill | :D | 18:24 |
| th1a | I have to go downstairs for a minute. | 18:25 |
| replaceafill | ok | 18:25 |
| replaceafill | th1a, refresh | 18:26 |
| replaceafill | reverted the last mistake | 18:27 |
| * th1a back. | 18:29 | |
| replaceafill | th1a, check to see if i got it right? | 18:29 |
| th1a | :-D | 18:30 |
| th1a | That's the best I can do right now. | 18:30 |
| th1a | I do think the lighter green for the primary buttons helps them stand out. | 18:30 |
| replaceafill | swap inactive and hover for the primary? | 18:31 |
| th1a | Hm? | 18:31 |
| replaceafill | ah sorry | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | MAN, WHAT'S WRONG WITH MY READING TODAY | 18:32 |
| th1a | Do you want to take a quick break before launching into the rest of it? | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | i honestly read: "I don't think..." | 18:32 |
| replaceafill | never mind | 18:32 |
| * th1a wants a quick break. | 18:33 | |
| replaceafill | sure | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | i'll be here practicing my reading | 18:33 |
| replaceafill | :) | 18:33 |
| th1a | OK, back in five. | 18:34 |
| replaceafill | kk | 18:34 |
| * replaceafill goes hunting wrong classes in forms... | 18:37 | |
| th1a | OK, what's the next color issue? | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | calendars? | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | th1a, do you think we should change the (+) green to match primary buttons? | 18:39 |
| replaceafill | like http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2011-2012/2012-spring/sections/art_a_2012-spring_teacher004_000/instructors.html | 18:39 |
| th1a | Oh, yes. | 18:40 |
| th1a | Can we do that in jquery? | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | writing it down in the css bug | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | that's an image | 18:40 |
| th1a | Do you need to do that in GIMP or something? | 18:40 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:40 |
| th1a | OK, that's a high priority. | 18:41 |
| th1a | Do you know how to do that? | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | i can do it now if you want | 18:41 |
| th1a | Sure. | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | ok, give me a min | 18:41 |
| replaceafill | refresh http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2011-2012/2012-spring/sections/art_a_2012-spring_teacher004_000/instructors.html | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | do you want the hover effect too? | 18:44 |
| replaceafill | for (+) buttons? | 18:44 |
| th1a | Oh... yes? | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | maybe the + should be white... | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | it's transparent right now | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | let me try | 18:45 |
| th1a | kk | 18:45 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 18:46 |
| replaceafill | will write down the hover effect and do it later, ok? | 18:47 |
| th1a | kk | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | should i mark buttons as DONE? | 18:47 |
| th1a | Just use the same color as the primary buttons. | 18:47 |
| th1a | Buttons done. | 18:47 |
| replaceafill | ok, bug updated | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | calendars? | 18:48 |
| th1a | Let's do the delete icons too. | 18:48 |
| th1a | Using the new gradebook red. | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 18:48 |
| replaceafill | #EF4444 | 18:48 |
| th1a | y | 18:49 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 18:50 |
| replaceafill | oops forgot to make the - white, hold on | 18:50 |
| replaceafill | done | 18:51 |
| th1a | I'm ok with it. | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | me 2 | 18:51 |
| th1a | OK, next. | 18:51 |
| replaceafill | calendars or gradebook? | 18:52 |
| th1a | Whichever you prefer. | 18:52 |
| replaceafill | calendars | 18:52 |
| replaceafill | i'm at http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/manager/calendar | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | oh wait | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | let's log in as a teacher instead | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | teacher001 | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | they have events | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | etc | 18:53 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar | 18:53 |
| th1a | The calendars look greener. | 18:54 |
| th1a | Is that what you were asking him about? | 18:54 |
| replaceafill | no, i was asking about error messages | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | what i mentioned in the meeting | 18:55 |
| th1a | Do the calendars match the pdf to you? | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | see the pdf | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | there's a "Secondary Column Background" | 18:55 |
| replaceafill | which i think it's the column color, right? | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | but it's the same hex color as the header | 18:56 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | then later there's a "Secondary Background" | 18:56 |
| th1a | Can you just get it with an eyedropper? | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | it's the one i used | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | i did | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | and it's the same we use! | 18:56 |
| replaceafill | for the background | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | let me show you | 18:57 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:57 |
| th1a | What are we looking at? | 18:57 |
| th1a | I'm looking at the sidebar first. | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | yes | 18:57 |
| replaceafill | hold on, i'll use the background from the eyedropper | 18:57 |
| th1a | Is that secondary background or secondary column background? | 18:58 |
| replaceafill | i'm taking the color from the "secondary column background" box with the eyedropper | 18:59 |
| th1a | It looks different in the web page. | 18:59 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 18:59 |
| replaceafill | look at the sidebar | 18:59 |
| th1a | Now it looks a lot lighter. | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | i think it's also has to do with the bold teal font for events | 19:00 |
| replaceafill | vinny specified bold for "active" | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | in the calendar | 19:01 |
| th1a | I don't think so. | 19:01 |
| replaceafill | see the 5 example? | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | #009499 (bold) | 19:02 |
| th1a | Wait. | 19:02 |
| th1a | IN the pdf I have: | 19:02 |
| th1a | #F7F7F7 | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | :| | 19:03 |
| th1a | In the page I have: | 19:03 |
| th1a | #F5F6F7 | 19:03 |
| replaceafill | f7f7f7? | 19:03 |
| th1a | That's what I've got. | 19:03 |
| th1a | For the gray columns. | 19:04 |
| replaceafill | we're looking at http://www.schwadesign.com/basecamp/2591274/2682003phase1/schooltool_looseends_1_0.pdf, right? | 19:04 |
| th1a | I"m looking at the example calendar. | 19:05 |
| th1a | Not the other stuff. | 19:05 |
| th1a | The actual example calendar. | 19:05 |
| th1a | Which looks fine to me. | 19:05 |
| th1a | What color do you get off the example calendar? | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | let me see | 19:06 |
| replaceafill | you're right, the calendar gives me f7f7f7 | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | the box doesnt :( | 19:07 |
| th1a | Yeah, this is kinda messed up. | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll forget the hexcodes in the pdf | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | and focus on the example | 19:07 |
| th1a | y | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | changing to f7f7f7 | 19:07 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 19:08 |
| replaceafill | i don't see the diff :P | 19:08 |
| replaceafill | visually | 19:08 |
| replaceafill | but it's now f7f7f7 | 19:08 |
| th1a | REgisters as F6F6F6 for me. :-S | 19:09 |
| replaceafill | uh??!!? | 19:09 |
| th1a | Looks ok though. | 19:09 |
| th1a | My monitors also display the grays differently, so that's extra confusion on my side. | 19:10 |
| th1a | OK, so moving on from that... | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | bold fonts for events? | 19:10 |
| th1a | Do you want to make the rest of the changes he suggests in the header, etc? | 19:10 |
| replaceafill | i did... | 19:11 |
| th1a | I have it centered | 19:11 |
| th1a | I mean, in layout. | 19:11 |
| replaceafill | oops | 19:11 |
| replaceafill | that i forgot ;) | 19:11 |
| th1a | I'm ok with the colors as they are. | 19:11 |
| th1a | I like his format changes. | 19:11 |
| th1a | Days of the week would be helpful too. | 19:11 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | wait | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | i messed one rule | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | fixed | 19:12 |
| replaceafill | a little left padding maybe for the header | 19:13 |
| th1a | Not bold for the name. | 19:13 |
| th1a | Why do I have a feeling that adding the days of the week will be a headache... | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | hhmm | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | hold on, i think i saw them somewhere | 19:14 |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011 | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | the yearly view | 19:15 |
| th1a | Ah good. | 19:15 |
| replaceafill | fixing the headers there... | 19:15 |
| th1a | Lighten the line under hte day. | 19:16 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:16 |
| th1a | I guess the problem here is that the stripes in the calendar blend into the content background. | 19:18 |
| replaceafill | correct | 19:19 |
| th1a | LIghten the border lines. | 19:19 |
| th1a | Outside border. | 19:19 |
| th1a | Also, you have the first and last lines dark and he has them light. | 19:19 |
| th1a | Making them white will help with the contrast issue. | 19:20 |
| * th1a goes downstairs for a minute. | 19:22 | |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:23 |
| th1a | I'm going to have to go pick Vivian up in a minute. | 19:25 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011 | 19:26 |
| replaceafill | changed the borders in the sidebar calendars too | 19:26 |
| th1a | I think if you reverse the columns that'll help. | 19:26 |
| th1a | OK, I'll be back. | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | ok | 19:27 |
| replaceafill | th1a, columns reversed | 19:30 |
| th1a | replaceafill: That seems ok. | 20:11 |
| replaceafill | ok | 20:11 |
| th1a | Unless we can bump it just a tough darker. | 20:11 |
| th1a | Just try that quickly. | 20:11 |
| replaceafill | you mean for the column background? | 20:12 |
| th1a | Yeah... You could just subtract from the values... | 20:12 |
| replaceafill | substract from the values? | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | from the hexcodes you mean? | 20:14 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | ok, will try | 20:14 |
| replaceafill | f7f7f7 -> f0f0f0 refresh | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011 | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | haven't applied to the sidebar yet | 20:17 |
| replaceafill | applied to sidebar, refresh | 20:17 |
| th1a | I think that's better. | 20:21 |
| th1a | It doesn't all bleed together quite so much. | 20:22 |
| replaceafill | monthly and weekly views? | 20:23 |
| replaceafill | monthly: http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-11 | 20:23 |
| replaceafill | weekly: http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-w45 | 20:23 |
| th1a | That's the new version? | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | yes | 20:24 |
| replaceafill | needs work obviously :) | 20:24 |
| th1a | Just make it a big version of the small one. | 20:25 |
| th1a | Month name in header, etc. | 20:25 |
| replaceafill | kk | 20:25 |
| replaceafill | there's a dark gray in http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-11 | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | for days out of the month | 20:26 |
| replaceafill | i should remove it right? | 20:27 |
| replaceafill | 31, ..., 1, 2, 3, 4 | 20:27 |
| th1a_ | Yes. | 20:36 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-11 | 20:36 |
| replaceafill | do we want border below rows? | 20:37 |
| replaceafill | let me remove them | 20:37 |
| th1a_ | Agh… those calendar columns look too green on this computer. | 20:37 |
| replaceafill | ok, lines removed | 20:38 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-11 | 20:39 |
| replaceafill | what am i missing? | 20:39 |
| th1a_ | Take the dark sidebar out. | 20:39 |
| replaceafill | the one with the week number? | 20:39 |
| th1a_ | I mean, take the darkness out. | 20:40 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 20:40 |
| th1a_ | Take all the darkness out. | 20:40 |
| replaceafill | even day headers? | 20:42 |
| th1a_ | YEs. | 20:43 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 20:44 |
| replaceafill | column backgrounds too? | 20:44 |
| th1a_ | Maybe the day/week parts should be gray instead of white. | 20:45 |
| replaceafill | like that? | 20:48 |
| th1a_ | That's better... | 20:48 |
| th1a_ | Maybe we should stop there. | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | ok | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | weekly | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-w45 | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | same? | 20:49 |
| th1a_ | Yeah. | 20:49 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar/2011-w45 | 20:55 |
| replaceafill | missing anything? | 20:56 |
| th1a_ | I'm going to ask Vinny about these. | 20:57 |
| replaceafill | k | 20:57 |
| replaceafill | gradebook? | 20:57 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2010-2011/2010-fall/sections/math_a_2010-fall_teacher001_000/activities/Worksheet/gradebook | 20:57 |
| th1a_ | Anything in particular? | 20:59 |
| replaceafill | just the cell backgrounds | 20:59 |
| replaceafill | insert -93 | 20:59 |
| replaceafill | 89 | 20:59 |
| replaceafill | and 108 | 20:59 |
| th1a_ | Looks pretty good. | 21:00 |
| th1a_ | You could make the red solid. | 21:00 |
| th1a_ | And center them better. | 21:01 |
| replaceafill | red bg, white text? | 21:01 |
| th1a_ | y | 21:01 |
| replaceafill | refresh | 21:02 |
| th1a_ | Seems pretty good to me. Get the same margins all around. | 21:03 |
| replaceafill | yes, i have the margin issue in the bug: - Gradebook cells: colors (old green, red, yellow) and input widths | 21:03 |
| replaceafill | as "input widths" :D | 21:03 |
| replaceafill | i know it has to look like a spreadsheet | 21:03 |
| th1a_ | Is there some reason that's tricky? | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | yes, it has to be smart to adjust when you have too many activities | 21:04 |
| th1a_ | kk | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | i think i know how to fix it | 21:04 |
| replaceafill | ok, that's it color-wise? | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | - Colors of event boxes in calendars | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | you said they're ok, right? | 21:05 |
| th1a_ | Look ok to me. | 21:05 |
| replaceafill | i don't understand this comment from yvl : | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/885807/comments/1 | 21:06 |
| replaceafill | does something change when there are resources booked? | 21:06 |
| th1a_ | The events themselves need new colors. | 21:06 |
| th1a_ | Uh… I don't think so. | 21:07 |
| replaceafill | ok, will push to trunk | 21:08 |
| replaceafill | we can update later if we need to | 21:08 |
| th1a_ | Yes. | 21:09 |
| th1a_ | I'll take some screenshots. | 21:09 |
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| replaceafill | changes pushed | 21:12 |
| th1a_ | Thanks. | 21:12 |
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| replaceafill | thanks th1a_, sorry for being dumber than usual today ;) | 21:13 |
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| th1a_ | Thanks replaceafill! | 21:13 |
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| bioscience | hi yv1 | 21:20 |
| th1a_ | yvl is probably not active now. | 21:20 |
| bioscience | hi th1a- | 21:21 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 21:55 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | eating :) | 21:56 |
| th1a | Can you put the day headers in the sidebar calendar? | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | will do | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | just one letter, right? | 21:56 |
| th1a | replaceafill: y. | 22:03 |
| replaceafill | k | 22:03 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Try to add some plain events to the teacher001 daily calendar. | 22:10 |
| replaceafill | done http://69.164.203.135:6660/persons/teacher001/calendar | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | 15:00 | 22:11 |
| replaceafill | anything wrong? | 22:11 |
| th1a | i got a traceback... | 22:12 |
| th1a | Hm... does the error log work? | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah sorry i was messing with the templates | 22:12 |
| th1a | Oh ,good. | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | i'll stay out of the vps | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | try again | 22:12 |
| replaceafill | and let me know if you get the traceback again | 22:12 |
| th1a | Oh, jquery calendar! | 22:13 |
| replaceafill | !!! | 22:13 |
| th1a | Also More... in the calendar sidebar should be a secondary button. | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | More... fixed | 22:16 |
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| dadeng | th1a, aelkner i'm in PH | 22:32 |
| dadeng | for the national education management information steering committee meeting | 22:33 |
| dadeng | i'll be making a presentation on ST | 22:33 |
| th1a | dadeng: Excellent. | 22:34 |
| dadeng | so, i may need some help depoying the report sheet | 22:36 |
| th1a | aelkner_: just finished implementing UN-deploying. | 22:37 |
| dadeng | oh, that's great | 22:37 |
| dadeng | he should guide me then | 22:38 |
| th1a | When do you want to do this exactly? | 22:38 |
| dadeng | via email, i need to shower now and start work | 22:38 |
| th1a | OK. | 22:38 |
| dadeng | we can do it tonight if possible | 22:38 |
| th1a | I'll call aelkner_ to alert him. | 22:39 |
| dadeng | the meeting starts tomorrow | 22:39 |
| dadeng | till saturday | 22:39 |
| dadeng | ok, i'll join you soon | 22:39 |
| th1a | dadeng: I won't be around tonight but I just spoke to aelkner_ about it, so he's anticipating your email. | 22:43 |
| dadeng | ok | 22:50 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, zyt? | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660 | 23:17 |
| replaceafill | added day labels to month calendar in the sidebar | 23:17 |
| dadeng | aelkner, the Internet in my hotel is dragingly slow | 23:20 |
| th1a | dadeng: I don't think aelkner_ is actually on irc now. | 23:21 |
| dadeng | i'll try to send email later | 23:22 |
| th1a | replaceafill, you could let the column colors run up into the days. | 23:22 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 23:22 |
| th1a | Had a good chat with Schwa. | 23:23 |
| replaceafill | :) | 23:24 |
| replaceafill | th1a, http://69.164.203.135:6660/calendar | 23:26 |
| th1a | Looks pretty good. Those could probably be spaced more closely vertically, btw. | 23:27 |
| replaceafill | you mean the calendars? | 23:28 |
| replaceafill | th1a, squezzed them a little | 23:37 |
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