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| jelkner | Anyone here interested in talking about SchoolTool? ;-) | 16:50 |
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| jelkner | I now feel prepared to deliver a mini workshop in "Setting up timetables in schooltool" | 16:50 |
| jelkner | th1a, are you here? | 16:50 |
| jelkner | we should talk about how i can help with the schooltool book | 16:51 |
| jelkner | when do you plan to have the look of the book match the new ST? | 16:51 |
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| th1a | hi jelkner. | 17:30 |
| jelkner | th1a, can i call you | 18:00 |
| th1a | Yes, jelkner. | 18:01 |
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| jelkner | aelkner, i don't see any explanation for the "Won't Fix" status on: #594161 Section Schedule view doesn't update instructor calendar | 19:33 |
| jelkner | i just added screenshots showing this bug in operation | 19:33 |
| jelkner | it renders the calendar pretty useless | 19:33 |
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| th1a | hi aelkner. | 20:59 |
| aelkner | hey th1a | 21:06 |
| th1a | Remind me of what we did for niepa... if you can remember... | 21:08 |
| th1a | In terms of new code. | 21:09 |
| aelkner | ok, let me check the commit logs | 21:11 |
| aelkner | yeah, so remember how we created demos for resources | 21:13 |
| th1a | OK, so that's not a problem. | 21:13 |
| aelkner | that was part of what we did in schooltool.niepa, use that new feature | 21:13 |
| aelkner | it has it's own version of School Info, like cambodia, sub-classing core's version | 21:14 |
| th1a | What's that doing? | 21:14 |
| aelkner | there is a census form that allows the user to fill in many things | 21:15 |
| aelkner | one of the sections is for the school info | 21:15 |
| th1a | That would need a new form then. | 21:15 |
| aelkner | ok, strike that | 21:16 |
| aelkner | the census form is a pdf | 21:16 |
| aelkner | it takes the results of the user filling in: | 21:16 |
| aelkner | 1) School Info | 21:16 |
| aelkner | 2) student demos | 21:16 |
| aelkner | 3) resource demos | 21:16 |
| aelkner | and it summarizes the results into a pdf that looks like the census form they sent us | 21:17 |
| th1a | OK, so that should need a little updating for the new report framework. | 21:17 |
| aelkner | you mean, it needs to register itself as a reportLink, right? | 21:18 |
| th1a | Y. | 21:18 |
| aelkner | yeaj, that's a simple change | 21:19 |
| aelkner | mostly, we just need to fire it up with flourish and see how we can get to the report | 21:19 |
| aelkner | also, there are custom niepa person views that may or may not be obsolete | 21:22 |
| aelkner | because we may have addressed the whole person edit using limit_keys in flourish | 21:23 |
| aelkner | i'd have to check on that as well | 21:23 |
| aelkner | i'll look the situation over some and prepare to discuss it tomorrow morning | 21:24 |
| th1a | OK. Yes, David is still working on this so we shouldn't leave him completely hanging. | 21:25 |
| th1a | Also, do you understand what's going on here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/594161 | 21:26 |
| aelkner | i entered a comment about the timetable model being broken | 21:28 |
| aelkner | i'm not sure about the status of that | 21:28 |
| aelkner | it always takes a long time to debug those problems, only to t=find that the data model is broken | 21:28 |
| aelkner | but i can revisit that in the short term as well | 21:29 |
| th1a | No... | 21:29 |
| th1a | Do you think your brother is even talking about the same thing? | 21:29 |
| aelkner | to be honest, i don't know what he is talking about | 21:32 |
| aelkner | why he posts the gradebook view when the issue is section calendar, i don't know | 21:32 |
| aelkner | but to be fair, the calendar is not my are of expertise | 21:33 |
| aelkner | and yvl has made vast changes lately | 21:33 |
| th1a | That's why I don't want you to get into it. | 21:33 |
| th1a | I just wondered if you knew what he was talking about. | 21:33 |
| aelkner | but perhaps jelkner did find a new bug in flourish | 21:33 |
| aelkner | i'm only guessing here | 21:34 |
| th1a | I don't doubt that there is some kind of bug here. | 21:34 |
| th1a | I just asked since it was your bug originally. | 21:39 |
| th1a | replaceafill: ayt? | 21:41 |
| aelkner | we should ask at tomorrow's meeting | 21:41 |
| th1a | I think I need some elaboration from jelkner. | 21:41 |
| aelkner | yeah, perhaps that as well | 21:41 |
| th1a | I think there may be some confusion about the section timetable vs. calendar. | 21:42 |
| aelkner | yeah, well i'm always confused about those things :) | 21:43 |
| aelkner | you know, i think, iirc, that the calendar is something dymanic | 21:44 |
| aelkner | that it is built from multiple sources including but not limited to the section timetable | 21:44 |
| aelkner | but i may be remoembering incorretly | 21:44 |
| aelkner | that whole area of the code lacks a certain clarity and transparency that wold be nice to have | 21:45 |
| th1a | Well, yvl just refactored it, so it may be a bit prettier now. | 21:45 |
| th1a | It is about time to give the user side more love though. | 21:45 |
| aelkner | something that may be easier to pull off now that we have flourish perhaps | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | th1a back, was preparing lunch | 21:46 |
| th1a | I spoke to jelkner about his recent bugs. | 21:47 |
| th1a | Are you going to follow up on those and file them if you can reproduce? | 21:47 |
| th1a | replaceafill ^ | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | yes, i was able to reproduce it | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | i'm going to file it after lunch | 21:47 |
| th1a | The section one? | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | yes | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | the section schedule, right? | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | where it's possible to delete the timetable and the section schedule gets broken | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | i told jelkner that it was like deleting a course associated to sections | 21:48 |
| th1a | Don't we have the hairy warning on timetables? | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | i think we do | 21:49 |
| th1a | Shows you how much good that does. | 21:49 |
| th1a | (we do, btw) | 21:49 |
| th1a | Oh... the done is over the table in /timetables. | 21:50 |
| th1a | That's a bug... | 21:50 |
| * replaceafill goes look | 21:50 | |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 21:51 |
| replaceafill | will fix | 21:51 |
| replaceafill | well, we have it above the table in /persons, /sections... | 21:51 |
| replaceafill | but we have the search box | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | in those | 21:52 |
| th1a | Yes, that's the difference. | 21:52 |
| th1a | I mean, maybe it should be below in all if they've got a reasonable batch size. | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | th1a we're going to start pushing the cambodia pilot again, right? | 21:55 |
| th1a | We weren't really NOT pushing it. | 21:56 |
| th1a | They stopped pulling. | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | ah ok :) | 21:56 |
| replaceafill | are we going to use flourish at some point? | 21:56 |
| th1a | Presumably, but I'd like them to get a pilot of some sort started without it before investing the time. | 21:57 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 21:57 |
| replaceafill | i tried to build the cambodia sandbox today, but ran into a timetable issue :( | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | i think i'll have to pin down the trunk revision used | 21:58 |
| replaceafill | i'll test that this afternoon too | 21:58 |
| th1a | aelkner, replaceafill: Any thoughts on this -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/867522 | 22:14 |
| aelkner | i saw thqt one earlier | 22:15 |
| aelkner | we remember things in the gradebook with annotations on the person object | 22:15 |
| th1a | Is it worth the bother? | 22:15 |
| aelkner | it's an interesting issue | 22:15 |
| th1a | Can we store that in the session? | 22:15 |
| th1a | Cookie? | 22:15 |
| aelkner | i think we should address remembering user preferences in a general way | 22:15 |
| th1a | Well... this might not rise to the level of persistent database storage. | 22:16 |
| th1a | I'm not sure. | 22:16 |
| aelkner | cookies are not used in schooltool | 22:16 |
| aelkner | i don't have a problem with the way the gradebook uses person annotations | 22:16 |
| aelkner | we should just think about how to do the same in a more expansive and general way in my opinion | 22:17 |
| aelkner | then adding any of these things would be more matter of fact | 22:17 |
| aelkner | like each time someone like jelkner brings up such an issue, we could say: | 22:17 |
| aelkner | oh, ok, we'll just add that to the annotations dictionary | 22:17 |
| th1a | Why don't we do that then? | 22:18 |
| aelkner | could we discuss this tomorrow morning to get the pov guys' thoughts? | 22:18 |
| th1a | Sure. | 22:18 |
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| th1a | aelkner: Didn't we do hiding deployed report sheets? | 22:47 |
| aelkner | th1a, no, not yet | 22:55 |
| aelkner | we only show what is deployed | 22:55 |
| th1a | OK, we've just talked about it. | 22:55 |
| aelkner | we also need to prevent accidental multiple deployment of the same sheet | 22:56 |
| aelkner | some kind of warning perhaps because lehmann didn't understand and then i needed to patch his data | 22:57 |
| th1a | That isn't such a big deal once you can hide. | 22:58 |
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| aelkner | i suppose, and also flouish is clearer anyway | 22:58 |
| th1a | But yes, I guess it would be easy enough to just not include templates that are already deployed in the menu. | 22:58 |
| aelkner | unless they do in fact want the same template multiple times | 22:59 |
| th1a | True. I guess that is a valid use case. | 22:59 |
| aelkner | we should wait until we are ready to both look over each view carefully | 23:00 |
| aelkner | and come up with the udeal combination of features | 23:00 |
| aelkner | ideal | 23:00 |
| th1a | As far as I'm concerned the main thing is we need hiding. | 23:02 |
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