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| aks | menesis: did you have had time to sync the new RPMs? | 07:13 |
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| menesis | aks: mirrored today, http://ftp.schooltool.org/rpms/ | 15:15 |
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| yvl | th1a, are you around? | 16:21 |
| th1a | hi yvl. | 16:23 |
| th1a | I think home is probably a good idea. | 16:23 |
| yvl | oh, thanks | 16:24 |
| yvl | that's a huge relief | 16:24 |
| * yvl was really afraid to try that out | 16:24 | |
| yvl | I was thinking - maybe I should spend Monday just clicking over everything with teacher / clerk / student | 16:25 |
| yvl | and adjusting breadcrumb and link permissions? | 16:25 |
| yvl | or I can fix func. tests | 16:26 |
| th1a | yvl: Sure. | 16:28 |
| th1a | I mean, click around. | 16:28 |
| yvl | kk | 16:28 |
| * yvl is just constantly awed how ST looks like a finished product nowadays | 16:28 | |
| th1a | It is pretty funny. | 16:31 |
| th1a | Compared to what it was. | 16:31 |
| th1a | It is almost like we know what we're doing now. | 16:32 |
| yvl | right! | 16:32 |
| yvl | by the way, a nitpick on Interventions: | 16:37 |
| yvl | Intervention tab not implemented (broken) when school is not fully set up. It would be best if it was hidden intelligently, like the Gradebook tab nowadays. | 16:38 |
| yvl | also: | 16:38 |
| yvl | Done links broken when looking at intervention messages or goals from intervention tab. | 16:38 |
| yvl | do an intervention for a student, send a message to, say, teacher030 | 16:39 |
| yvl | log in as teacher030, hit Interventions | 16:39 |
| yvl | click on a message, click Done | 16:39 |
| th1a | yvl: Yes. | 16:40 |
| yvl | apologies if I'm repeating myself | 16:40 |
| th1a | To be honest, there was enough extra complexity rolled into Interventions -- because that's how SLA wanted it -- that it was off-putting even to me. | 16:41 |
| th1a | It is much cleaner and accessible now, so we should find more bugs. | 16:41 |
| * yvl agrees | 16:43 | |
| yvl | they've gotten so much better, that even I can understand them now ;) | 16:43 |
| th1a | It is funny -- there were just a couple little things there that made it seem much more complicated that weren't necessary at all (although they were helpful to SLA's particular workflow). | 16:46 |
| yvl | it is indeed amazing how certain small changes can complicate - or make something way simpler | 16:48 |
| yvl | well, it's time to go home | 16:49 |
| * yvl leaves for a weekend... great job this release guys! | 16:49 | |
| yvl | looking forward for alpha ;) | 16:50 |
| th1a | Thanks yvl! | 16:56 |
| th1a | Gee, not having a meeting really opens up the morning! | 17:15 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 19:36 |
| th1a | replaceafill: /database needs a title. | 19:42 |
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| menesis | http://ftp.schooltool.org/cando/eggs/cando-2011.09.tar.gz released, deb tomorrow | 21:33 |
| th1a | Thanks menesis! | 21:34 |
| menesis | trunk compatible | 21:34 |
| menesis | (not flourish) | 21:35 |
| th1a | y | 21:35 |
| menesis | i.e. 1.4 - trunk | 21:35 |
| menesis | schooltool 1.4.4 almost done, not yet | 21:36 |
| replaceafill | th1a http://69.164.203.135:6660/database.html | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | Server Database | 21:46 |
| replaceafill | is that ok? | 21:47 |
| th1a | y | 21:47 |
| replaceafill | k | 21:47 |
| th1a | Oh, spanish. | 21:47 |
| th1a | You confused me for a sec. | 21:48 |
| replaceafill | :) | 21:48 |
| th1a | I guess I should have put a WiT in worksheets. | 21:49 |
| replaceafill | we did | 21:50 |
| th1a | I don't see it. | 21:50 |
| replaceafill | Use worksheets in your gradebook the same way you do in a spreadsheet, to... | 21:50 |
| th1a | (I thought we did) | 21:50 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2008-2009/2008-fall/sections/science_a_2008-fall_teacher001_004/activities/ | 21:50 |
| replaceafill | teacher001 | 21:50 |
| th1a | OH! | 21:50 |
| th1a | Hm. | 21:50 |
| th1a | Weird. | 21:51 |
| replaceafill | you don't see it in your instance? | 21:51 |
| replaceafill | put English back in my testing instance... | 21:52 |
| th1a | I do now. | 21:52 |
| th1a | Maybe I'm on crack. | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | :D | 21:52 |
| replaceafill | th1a http://69.164.203.135:7777/persons/camila/gradebook.html | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | camila:camila | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | that's the old student view of the journal | 22:14 |
| replaceafill | it lists all the sections you're enrolled in the term | 22:15 |
| th1a | I've probably never looked at it! | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | http://69.164.203.135:6660/schoolyears/2008-2009/2008-fall/sections/science_a_2008-fall_teacher001_000/journal | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | teacher001 | 22:15 |
| replaceafill | i was thinking that if we keep the same layout, i should remove the Section selector, right? | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | leaving just Term and Year | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | for the new view | 22:16 |
| replaceafill | i mean, for the student view | 22:16 |
| th1a | Um... I've never thought about it. | 22:17 |
| th1a | Realistically it doesn't need to look like this at all. | 22:17 |
| th1a | Or... ok, I guess it does if you're Lithuanian. | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | is it ok if we have a journal student view with just one row per section? | 22:18 |
| replaceafill | (in case we allow the student to select the Section) | 22:19 |
| th1a | I don't understand how what you're describing is different than what I'm looking at. | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | the student would only see his/her attendance (one single row) in the worksheet | 22:19 |
| replaceafill | oh sorry, im talking about the flourish version of the student journal view | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | in the journal/gradebook views we have Section, Term and Year selectors | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | (the dropdowns) | 22:20 |
| th1a | Yes, you don't need the section selector. | 22:20 |
| replaceafill | th1a ah ok | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | also, could you comment on the 0s in the gradebook/journal? | 22:21 |
| replaceafill | should they be there? | 22:21 |
| th1a | The problem is that you never really confirm that students are present. | 22:23 |
| th1a | Which is something we need to address, I guess. | 22:24 |
| th1a | You don't know if someone had perfect attendance or the teacher never took attendance. | 22:24 |
| th1a | Which are RATHER DIFFERENT. | 22:24 |
| replaceafill | ah | 22:24 |
| th1a | The fact of the matter is that the journal is still VERY simple. | 22:25 |
| th1a | So what context did this come up in? | 22:25 |
| th1a | I wasn't quite clear on that. | 22:25 |
| replaceafill | it just that i saw the gradebook doing it | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | but the gradebook does it for total | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | and uses N/A for average | 22:26 |
| replaceafill | i should take the 0s out of the journal then | 22:26 |
| * th1a looks at the journal. | 22:27 | |
| th1a | The journal is still slow. | 22:27 |
| th1a | btw... | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | yes | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | i'll work on that too | 22:27 |
| replaceafill | it's still doing too many iterations | 22:27 |
| th1a | You know, I think it is fine with zeros. | 22:28 |
| replaceafill | ah ok then :) | 22:28 |
| th1a | What we need to do at some point is add a step where the teacher confirms the attendance. | 22:28 |
| th1a | So if nobody is absent in a day, you confirm that you took attendance. | 22:28 |
| th1a | And didn't just forget! | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | attendance by day or something like that | 22:29 |
| th1a | Yes. | 22:29 |
| th1a | But we don't need to think about it. | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | maybe put it in the popup menu of the day? | 22:29 |
| replaceafill | ok | 22:29 |
| th1a | I think it is ok for now. | 22:30 |
| replaceafill | ok, i'll work on the student view and making it faster | 22:30 |
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| mattva01 | hey guys | 22:33 |
| mattva01 | jeff is breathing down my neck :p | 22:33 |
| mattva01 | do we have some packages to test, or at least usable eggs ? | 22:33 |
| th1a | Oh... eggs, yes. | 22:34 |
| th1a | Packages early next week. | 22:34 |
| mattva01 | so could we use the eggs ? :p | 22:34 |
| mattva01 | one sec | 22:35 |
| th1a | You'd be able to move the database when the packages are ready. | 22:35 |
| mattva01 | jeff is calling you :p | 22:35 |
| mattva01 | oh ok | 22:35 |
| th1a | mattva01: bzr branch lp:schooltool.release/flourish ; cd flourish ; make develop | 22:42 |
| mattva01 | th1a, ok will do | 22:43 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Might as well put 0's in the abs/tardy in the gradebook column, too. | 22:53 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 22:54 |
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