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| aelkner | hey th1a | 17:46 |
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| th1a | hi aelkner. | 17:46 |
| aelkner | nothing to show you today, though i'll have lots for you on Monday morning | 17:46 |
| aelkner | but i have a couple of questions | 17:46 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:46 |
| aelkner | for the messge(s)/goal(s) views | 17:47 |
| aelkner | fir the singular views | 17:47 |
| aelkner | we need an <h3> with a pencil by it for edit | 17:47 |
| aelkner | then, doe each field, we need a label, then the value | 17:47 |
| aelkner | for each field | 17:48 |
| th1a | The fields in question being? | 17:48 |
| aelkner | From (sender), To (recipients), Body for message | 17:48 |
| aelkner | let's start there | 17:48 |
| aelkner | for From, what element would be best? | 17:48 |
| aelkner | <span>? | 17:49 |
| aelkner | i know you want <p> for the values, right? | 17:49 |
| aelkner | what about the labels? | 17:49 |
| th1a | What is the h3, you refer to above? Title? | 17:49 |
| aelkner | good question | 17:49 |
| aelkner | The title/subtitle is also a question | 17:50 |
| aelkner | Intervention: Message? | 17:50 |
| aelkner | then Message regarding John Doe for the <h3>? | 17:50 |
| aelkner | in old skin version, that's what the fieldset legend had | 17:51 |
| aelkner | but do we want to use fieldsets for display views this time? | 17:51 |
| th1a | This conversation would go quicker if I was looking at an old message. | 17:52 |
| aelkner | you don't have an old instance handy? | 17:52 |
| th1a | firing it up | 17:52 |
| aelkner | did replaceafill set up a demo instance for that? | 17:52 |
| aelkner | ah, you have one | 17:52 |
| th1a | We're just talking about message view here? | 17:56 |
| aelkner | so far | 17:57 |
| aelkner | and messages | 17:57 |
| aelkner | it wouldn't hurt to think about them together | 17:57 |
| aelkner | i guess whatever looks good for one message should look good for multiple | 17:57 |
| th1a | Just as h3 | 17:58 |
| th1a | From: | 17:58 |
| th1a | To: | 17:58 |
| th1a | Date: | 17:58 |
| th1a | And then we'll go from there. | 17:58 |
| aelkner | ah, the pencil after From: | 17:58 |
| th1a | Can you edit a message? | 17:59 |
| aelkner | actually, there is no edit message | 17:59 |
| aelkner | never mind | 17:59 |
| th1a | Right. | 17:59 |
| aelkner | you can't edit email | 17:59 |
| th1a | These message should have a subject too, but that's a different question. | 17:59 |
| aelkner | that's a data model question, something we never considered necessary in the past | 18:00 |
| aelkner | but we could add it in the future | 18:00 |
| aelkner | perhaps after the release? | 18:00 |
| th1a | perhaps. | 18:00 |
| aelkner | so no more box around the message like in the old skin version? | 18:01 |
| aelkner | ust h3, p, h3, p, etc.? | 18:01 |
| th1a | y | 18:02 |
| th1a | Only make it more complicated as necessary. | 18:02 |
| aelkner | what about multiple messages? | 18:02 |
| aelkner | what would we use to set one off against the other? | 18:02 |
| th1a | It is really better to do this iteratively than guess at something complicated. | 18:03 |
| aelkner | what do you mean? | 18:03 |
| aelkner | do you mean you'd rather see the single message view before deciding how the multiple would look? | 18:06 |
| th1a | No, I mean I just want to see what simple formatting looks like. | 18:18 |
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| aelkner | i'm working on the message view right now so that you can look | 18:19 |
| aelkner | th1a, here's the first draft of the view: | 18:34 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schooltool.interventions/2010-2011/jdoe/messages/1 | 18:34 |
| aelkner | the Done button takes you back to the student intervention view | 18:34 |
| th1a | ok... | 18:39 |
| th1a | Put the information on the same line. | 18:40 |
| th1a | Also... just make it a little table. | 18:40 |
| th1a | Above the body. | 18:40 |
| aelkner | a table with From, To and Date as columns | 18:41 |
| aelkner | then the h3, p for the body? | 18:42 |
| th1a | What's the h3? | 18:46 |
| aelkner | yeah, no need for that | 18:46 |
| aelkner | one sec... | 18:46 |
| aelkner | man, tables looks so nice in flourish! | 18:48 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schooltool.interventions/2010-2011/jdoe/messages/1 | 18:48 |
| th1a | Oh... | 18:48 |
| th1a | I was thinking two columns. | 18:48 |
| aelkner | which ones? | 18:49 |
| th1a | A headerless key/value table. | 18:49 |
| th1a | Isn't that what you were talking about in the beginning? | 18:49 |
| th1a | Anyway, try that. | 18:49 |
| aelkner | oh, sorry, i didn't understand | 18:49 |
| th1a | np | 18:49 |
| aelkner | what about the body | 18:49 |
| aelkner | also in column two of the two column table? | 18:50 |
| aelkner | thing is | 18:50 |
| aelkner | now that i did the table as is, it makes multiple messages easier | 18:50 |
| aelkner | they would be naturally set off from one another with the thead css | 18:50 |
| aelkner | the grey bar, i mean | 18:51 |
| aelkner | and the bodey can flow as long as it wants to below | 18:51 |
| aelkner | some message could be long, so i'm not sure what it would look like in col 2 | 18:51 |
| th1a | No... the message still just goes below in a paragraph. | 18:52 |
| aelkner | ok, so a three row, two column table, then <p> below for body, no <h3> | 18:52 |
| aelkner | and not thead for the table | 18:53 |
| aelkner | all correct? | 18:53 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:54 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schooltool.interventions/2010-2011/jdoe/messages/1 | 18:55 |
| aelkner | i guess the horizontal rule at the top of any non-thead table would set off one message form the other | 18:56 |
| aelkner | you think? | 18:58 |
| th1a | Yeah, that's pretty good. | 18:58 |
| aelkner | ok | 18:58 |
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| aelkner | i'll do the multiple view now so that you could see it this after noon | 18:58 |
| aelkner | what about the More... you talked about? | 18:59 |
| th1a | Move the second column about an inch to the right. | 18:59 |
| th1a | More instead of show all? | 18:59 |
| aelkner | yeah | 18:59 |
| th1a | What about it? | 18:59 |
| aelkner | where should the link go in the student view | 18:59 |
| aelkner | right after the table? | 18:59 |
| aelkner | i'm not sure More is clearer than Show All though | 19:00 |
| th1a | After the table. | 19:01 |
| th1a | It is an iterative process... ;-) | 19:01 |
| aelkner | :) | 19:02 |
| aelkner | More or Show All? | 19:02 |
| th1a | Trying things out. | 19:02 |
| aelkner | anyway, it's not important, you can decide the text later | 19:02 |
| aelkner | i'll go with More for now | 19:03 |
| th1a | More... | 19:03 |
| aelkner | ok | 19:03 |
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| th1a | aelkner: Too bad last night's football game doesn't count. | 19:07 |
| aelkner | :) | 19:10 |
| aelkner | bastards | 19:10 |
| aelkner | way to expose our weeknesses | 19:10 |
| aelkner | and of course, my personal idol, Troy, had another big play | 19:11 |
| aelkner | you guys should be good this year, but anything can happen come playoff time | 19:11 |
| th1a | The question is whether the Steelers' defense is going to suddenly get old before it can get young. | 19:23 |
| th1a | Also, I'd be happy if Polamalu would just lay down after making an interception in the preseason. | 19:24 |
| aelkner | how about Vick tackling him! | 19:25 |
| th1a | Ah, I haven't seen the replay yet. | 19:25 |
| aelkner | frustration with three interceptions not withstanding... | 19:25 |
| aelkner | http://69.164.203.135:36660/schooltool.interventions/2010-2011/jdoe | 19:25 |
| aelkner | the More button may be too big as h3 | 19:25 |
| th1a | yes. | 19:25 |
| aelkner | refresh | 19:27 |
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| aelkner | it's not h3, so it doesn't have space before it any more | 19:28 |
| th1a | I'm still getting h3? | 19:28 |
| aelkner | nope, it's just an <a> element | 19:29 |
| aelkner | could we tweek the css on monday when douglas is around? | 19:31 |
| aelkner | otherwise, any comments on the messages view? | 19:32 |
| th1a | Why is it big? | 19:32 |
| th1a | Is it it a p? | 19:32 |
| aelkner | no | 19:32 |
| aelkner | should it be? | 19:32 |
| th1a | Everything should have a format. | 19:32 |
| th1a | Yes, make it a p. | 19:33 |
| aelkner | refresh | 19:34 |
| aelkner | looks small now | 19:34 |
| th1a | Perfect. | 19:35 |
| aelkner | ok, so i have lots to do for Monday | 19:35 |
| aelkner | getting goals to add, display | 19:35 |
| aelkner | fixing the person list widget | 19:35 |
| th1a | kk | 19:35 |
| th1a | Good. | 19:35 |
| th1a | aelkner: Do you know what kind of setup problem causes this kind of error: LocationError: (<schooltool.basicperson.person.BasicPerson object at 0xe2e43ac>, 'layout.css') | 19:36 |
| aelkner | that's the error we always get when we haven't created the flourish version of a view | 19:36 |
| aelkner | when we already have the same exact view registered in the old skin | 19:37 |
| aelkner | otherwise, Not Found would come up | 19:37 |
| th1a | Ah. | 19:37 |
| th1a | This is my fresh flourish, with checkouts for flourish.gradebook, etc. | 19:37 |
| th1a | Do I need to do something to tell it to use those? | 19:37 |
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| aelkner | yes, change buildout.cfg | 19:38 |
| aelkner | i'll email you my copy | 19:38 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 19:39 |
| aelkner | sent | 19:39 |
| aelkner | you'll need to branch intervention and journal to use my buildout.cfg | 19:40 |
| aelkner | also, i haven't merged my intervention to trunk yet | 19:40 |
| aelkner | do you mind if i skip that for now | 19:40 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:40 |
| aelkner | yes, you mind | 19:40 |
| th1a | Yes I mind, pretty much. | 19:40 |
| aelkner | ok, i'll do the long overdue merge | 19:40 |
| th1a | Please. | 19:40 |
| aelkner | ok, pushed to trunk, actually not that many changes since lat merge, i forgot | 19:42 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 19:43 |
| aelkner | np | 19:43 |
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| pgulley | jelkner, dreich and I just wanted to fill you in: We're at 95% unittest coverage of views- the remaining five percent is a function jamie commented as incomplete. | 22:35 |
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