IRC log of #schooltool for Thursday, 2010-11-18

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replaceafillhey aks!06:27
aksreplaceafill: hello06:27
replaceafilldid you fix your schooltool server problem?06:28
aksreplaceafill: which problem?06:31
aksreplaceafill: I've been on a field visit out of my city, so was not able to follow up on problems06:32
replaceafillah!06:33
replaceafilli was wondering about your dns/apache problem06:33
replaceafillwanted to know what was the problem :)06:33
replaceafilljust curious06:33
aksreplaceafill: oh, I didn't have had much time to look at the problem, just returned back today, will check the problem in a while06:35
replaceafillcool, let us know if we can help ;)06:35
aksreplaceafill: sure06:38
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th1aI wonder if we could use this: http://www.red-r.org/16:37
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th1areplaceafill:  How you doing?18:52
replaceafillth1a, i asked trevor for screenshots of the forms he's referring to in his comments18:54
replaceafillmeanwhile i'm working in the gradebook again18:54
th1aSo... still can't figure out where this is coming from in the source?18:54
replaceafilli also thought of doing what yvl did this morning, asking him for the code18:55
th1aBut couldn't it be older code...18:55
th1aHm...18:55
replaceafillth1a, i think it's FROM older code18:55
th1aI'm not sure to what extent it is possible to have older data lying around without throwing errors.18:55
replaceafilli've seen demo fields in old code, but not in the one trevor says is using18:57
th1aWell... right.18:57
th1aI mean, they probably originated when they used the older version.18:57
th1aRight?18:57
replaceafillthat's what i think18:57
th1aSo don't we think we could extract it just knowing that?18:58
th1aI mean, can you find the older code?18:58
replaceafillthe thing is that i found several versions of different schoolbell code18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.0/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.0rc1/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.0rc2/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.1/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.1.1/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.1rc1/18:59
th1aDo we just need access to the database?18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2.0/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2.1/18:59
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2.2/19:00
th1aI mean, should we stop farting around?19:00
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2.3/19:00
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2.4/19:00
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2rc1/19:00
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2rc2/19:00
replaceafillschoolbell-1.2rc3/19:00
th1aCan't we just write a script that'll dump out the objects connected to a person?19:00
replaceafilli did one to at least know the annotations involved19:00
th1aOr, for that matter, shouldn't we be able to figure this out with the introspector?19:00
th1aDevmode!19:00
replaceafill:O19:01
replaceafillth1a, "The live schooltool data base is on a Linux Server - Fedora Core Release 4, Kernell 2.6.11"19:20
* replaceafill is really puzzled19:20
th1aAh.19:20
replaceafillfedora 4!19:20
th1aWell, we did RPM packages back in the stoneage.19:20
replaceafillwonder if the customization he talks about are real19:20
replaceafillah19:20
th1aWe did have photos.19:21
th1aAnd we did have birthdays.19:21
th1aI'm kind of puzzled that we ever didn't have birthdays.19:21
replaceafillif we got to the rpms maybe we can see the code19:21
replaceafilledubuntu 6 doesnt have them19:21
th1aHm.19:21
replaceafillneither edubuntu 519:21
replaceafillschooltool-0.11.4 and schooltool-0.11.219:22
th1aIt is from an ancient K12LTSP, probably.19:25
th1ahe he he ftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/4.4.1/iso/19:26
th1aForwarded an email to you.19:27
replaceafillyay!19:27
replaceafillTue, Aug 30, 2005!!!19:27
th1ahttp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/SchoolTool/latest/19:27
th1alololololol19:28
th1ahttp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/SchoolTool/latest/SRPMS/schoolbell-1.2.3-k12ltsp.4.4.1.src.rpm19:28
replaceafill!!!19:28
th1a:|19:28
replaceafill5 iso's!19:31
th1aCan you just use the srpm?19:31
th1aOr just the rpm for that matter?19:31
replaceafillbut it's schoolbell 1.219:31
replaceafilli already checked it19:32
replaceafillit doesnt have the infamous birth date19:32
replaceafillflood:19:32
replaceafillreplaceafill@system76:~/Escritorio/schoolbell-1.2.3-k12ltsp.4.4.1.src/schoolbell-1.2.3/src/schoolbell$ grep -r -i birth .19:32
replaceafill./calendar/README.txt:    ...                             'My birthday',19:32
replaceafill./calendar/README.txt:    2005-01-29 My birthday19:32
replaceafill./calendar/README.txt:    2006-01-29 My birthday19:32
replaceafill./calendar/README.txt:    2007-01-29 My birthday19:32
replaceafill./calendar/README.txt:    2008-01-29 My birthday19:32
replaceafill./app/browser/ftests/cal.txt:    ... field.title=A Birthday&field.start_date=2005-03-29&field.allday=on&\19:32
replaceafill./app/browser/ftests/cal.txt:    ...A Birthday...19:32
replaceafill./app/browser/ftests/cal.txt:    ... field.title=A Birthday&field.start_date=2005-03-29&\19:32
replaceafill./app/browser/tests/test_cal.py:        ev1 = createEvent('2004-08-12 14:00', '5min', "My Birthday")19:32
replaceafill./app/browser/tests/test_cal.py:            ...      'A Birthday', allday=True))19:32
replaceafill./app/browser/tests/test_cal.py:            A Birthday19:33
replaceafillsorry :(19:33
th1aHm.19:36
th1aWhat if we don't call it birthday?19:36
th1aI think we just need a script that spits out whatever is connected to a person in his database.19:36
replaceafillunfortunately, it seems like Trevor is going out for a week19:38
replaceafillwe wont be able to ask him to test stuff19:38
replaceafilllike if we send him the script19:39
th1aI guess that also means there is no rush.19:39
replaceafillright19:39
replaceafillit's mostly about curiousity at this point :P19:39
replaceafill(at least for me ;D)19:39
th1aWell, it is also good for us just to be in the habit of actually solving customer problems.19:40
replaceafill:)19:40
replaceafillaccording to http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=k12linux kernel 2.6.11 (as trevor said) is on k12linux 4.2.119:43
replaceafillftp://k12linux.mesd.k12.or.us/pub/K12LTSP/4.2.1/RPMS/19:43
replaceafillschoolbell-1.119:43
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mattva01hey replaceafill21:05
replaceafillhey mattva0121:05
replaceafillyou got the server running!21:05
mattva01ok I think it's working now :p21:05
replaceafillwhat version of sugar should i use?21:05
replaceafillsqueeze's?21:05
replaceafilllucid's?21:05
replaceafillmaverick's?21:05
mattva01maverick21:05
mattva01mainly because I finally got my package working21:06
replaceafilli'm running it in a vm, is that ok?21:06
mattva01and it works nicely21:06
replaceafillvirtualbox21:06
mattva01should be21:06
replaceafilllet me start it21:06
replaceafillok, maverick's up21:08
replaceafillshould i use a ppa?21:08
mattva01yes21:09
mattva01use ppa:mattva01/ppa21:09
mattva01and install the ubuntu-sugar-remix package21:09
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replaceafilli guess i had one installed already, i should remove it first, right?21:10
replaceafill0.521:10
mattva01well upgrade21:10
mattva01don't worry about removing it21:11
replaceafilloh ok21:11
replaceafillupgraded21:12
replaceafillwhat's the name of the server?21:12
replaceafillschoolserver.gctaa.net?21:12
mattva01back21:17
mattva01no21:17
mattva01jabber.gctaa.net21:17
replaceafillok, changed the server21:18
replaceafillbut no one around21:18
mattva01yeah one sec21:19
mattva01logging in21:19
mattva01btw21:20
mattva01you need to restart the machine21:20
mattva01before the change takes effect21:21
replaceafilldamn!21:21
replaceafillSystem Admin?21:21
mattva01yeah thats me21:21
replaceafillmake friend21:21
mattva01though I just froze it :p21:21
replaceafillexcellent21:21
replaceafillwhat can we do now?21:21
replaceafilli mean, share something?21:22
mattva01yep one sec21:22
mattva01now I need to  find an activity to share :p21:23
replaceafillchat?21:23
mattva01need to install it :p21:24
mattva01I just installed sugar :p21:24
replaceafillmy browse activity says it cannot start...21:25
mattva01???21:25
mattva01thats odd21:25
replaceafillBrowse failed to start21:25
replaceafilland i saw the package being installed21:25
replaceafillwith the upgrade21:25
mattva01mind checking which error it threw?21:25
mattva01oh uninstall sugar-firefox-activity21:25
mattva01because it works for me21:26
mattva01and every other machine I've tested on21:26
mattva01still on sugar?21:30
replaceafillwent back to gnome to uninstall firefox21:30
mattva01ah21:31
replaceafillgoing back21:31
replaceafillBrowse failed to start :(21:32
replaceafillhow can i check the error?21:32
mattva01give it a sec21:32
mattva01one21:32
mattva01sec21:32
mattva01try collaboration first21:33
replaceafillok21:33
mattva01see if you can join my chat activity21:33
mattva01can you?21:33
mattva01excellent!21:34
replaceafillgreat work mattva0121:34
replaceafillwill you leave it running?21:35
mattva01yep21:35
mattva01I will21:35
replaceafilli mean, if i want to test it with someone from here21:35
replaceafillgreat21:35
mattva01mind staying online a bit21:35
replaceafillnp21:35
mattva01i'm pretty sure jeff wants to see21:35
mattva01:p21:35
replaceafilldefinitely!21:35
replaceafillwhat's the name of the activity that talks?21:36
replaceafillTallk?21:36
replaceafillTalk?21:36
mattva01speak i think21:36
mattva01could be talk21:36
replaceafillah21:36
* replaceafill goes to sugar activities21:36
replaceafillSpeak21:36
replaceafilli wonder if that one allows collaboration21:36
mattva01let's see :p21:37
mattva01make sure to enable sharing21:37
replaceafillit's not available in my list of activities21:38
* replaceafill wonders how to access apt without leaving sugar...21:38
replaceafilli started sugar in my squeeze :)21:40
mattva01btw21:40
mattva01you can use sugar-emulator21:40
mattva01to get a sugar window in gnome :p21:40
replaceafillgoing back to gnome in maverick21:41
replaceafillto test the emulator21:41
mattva01mind joining my chat again once you do :p21:41
mattva01kk :p21:41
replaceafilljust trying things out for when i have to explain it :D21:41
replaceafilland i will21:42
mattva01ok jeff is coming to join us :p21:45
replaceafillgreat21:45
replaceafillgoing back to the chat21:45
mattva01ok21:59
mattva01I need to see the browse error21:59
mattva01so go to console within sugar21:59
mattva01actually you can go outside of it as well22:00
replaceafillok22:00
mattva01go into your .sugar directory22:00
mattva01and go to logs/22:00
mattva01then go to org.laptop.WebActivity22:01
replaceafilldefault/logs22:01
mattva01yeah22:01
replaceafillno org.laptop.WebActivity under log22:02
mattva01what is there?22:02
mattva01ls22:02
mattva01bleh wrong window :p22:03
mattva01see those random folders with numbers? go to the highest numbered one22:03
replaceafillmattva01, http://imagebin.ca/view/tkfJpdX.html22:03
replaceafillah ok22:03
replaceafillthen?22:04
mattva01find one?22:05
mattva01look for org.laptop.WebActivity22:06
mattva01in each of those folders22:06
replaceafillmattva01, http://imagebin.ca/view/BLjnUS.html22:07
replaceafilllibxul.so22:08
mattva01yeah22:15
mattva01you don't have xulrunner installed?22:15
replaceafillinstalling22:16
mattva01thats odd....22:17
mattva01its part of the ubuntu default installation22:17
replaceafillactually it's upgrading it22:21
replaceafillmattva01, great! Browse works now22:30
mattva01excellent :p22:30
th1areplaceafill, Can you see this and fill it out? https://spreadsheets0.google.com/viewform?hl=en&formkey=dEV4Ql9tRVo0WGowTlNpNVVBNkVQeVE6MQ#gid=022:41
replaceafillone for each school in the pilot?22:42
th1aIt is more trying to find the random schools out there.22:42
th1aLike the 1500 in Portugal.  ;-)22:42
replaceafilli'll fill it out for ESAES22:43
replaceafilldidnt know google spreadsheets could do this22:44
replaceafillth1a, typo22:47
replaceafillseacher gradebook22:47
replaceafillmissing question mark at the end of "Do you pay for commercial support of SchoolTool" :=22:48
replaceafillhow do you get all this info back?22:49
th1aIn a spreadsheet.22:50
replaceafillnice22:50
th1aI added a couple.22:53
th1aI don't want to make this too long though.22:53
th1aI'd like to make the results viewable in a webpage.22:55
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