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| ryanpg | morning | 15:17 |
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| yvl | good morning, ryanpg | 15:18 |
| ryanpg | oh, nice to see you - glad you're here :) | 15:18 |
| ryanpg | I'm sorry, communication via "bug report" was becoming way to confusing for me. I thought I'd just come here so I can answer questions "real-time" | 15:19 |
| ryanpg | and hopefully more clearly | 15:19 |
| yvl | yeah, that's a good idea :) | 15:20 |
| yvl | ok... by looking at the bugs, it seems that you set up some testing timetables | 15:21 |
| yvl | and they are integrated into calendar | 15:21 |
| ryanpg | yes, I setup a default timetable | 15:21 |
| yvl | hence the screenshot http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55685299/Screenshot-1.png | 15:21 |
| yvl | that's the best I could figure out from descriptions :| | 15:22 |
| ryanpg | so far that's correct | 15:22 |
| ryanpg | the bug report was: Daily view of the calendar (when logged in as a user - not admin) does not render correctly on the Google Chrome browser. | 15:23 |
| yvl | ok, let's talk about that one | 15:23 |
| yvl | did you try it out on Firefox? | 15:23 |
| ryanpg | ah, but this AM I learned more | 15:23 |
| ryanpg | yes, I did try firefox - it _also_ renders incorrectly | 15:24 |
| yvl | ok, so it's not a browser bug | 15:24 |
| ryanpg | right, I think that needs to be changed (I was logged in as manager on FF and user on GC) | 15:24 |
| ryanpg | but didn't you see some rendering problem too? | 15:24 |
| yvl | nope | 15:24 |
| yvl | not on FF, not on GC 6.x | 15:24 |
| ryanpg | oh right... it worked on chromium for you | 15:25 |
| yvl | so.. what precisely looks wrong there? | 15:25 |
| ryanpg | I've got another screenshot | 15:25 |
| yvl | (an idea - you can open it with gimp and draw a red circle around that place ;) ) | 15:25 |
| ryanpg | on the one you posted, there's a giant 2:50 slot between 8:10 and 9:36 | 15:26 |
| yvl | gimme ;) | 15:26 |
| yvl | you see, when timetabling replaces "slots" in the calendar | 15:27 |
| yvl | it uses the titles of those slots, not the actual time | 15:27 |
| yvl | so if the slot is titled 2:50 | 15:27 |
| yvl | that is shown | 15:27 |
| yvl | and it seems this is the case | 15:27 |
| yvl | because it looks like it's taking 2.5 hours | 15:28 |
| yvl | DCC RECV failed :| | 15:29 |
| yvl | just attach it to LP | 15:29 |
| ryanpg | uhg... I'm attaching two more to the bug | 15:29 |
| yvl | thanks :) | 15:29 |
| ryanpg | np | 15:31 |
| ryanpg | posted | 15:32 |
| yvl | you know, it certainly starts to look like your timetable is quite messed up | 15:33 |
| ryanpg | yvl, yes it does | 15:34 |
| yvl | it shouldn't be *that* off | 15:34 |
| ryanpg | well, when I entered it - it seemed fine | 15:34 |
| ryanpg | and when I look at Timetable schema default it looks fine | 15:35 |
| yvl | hmm | 15:36 |
| yvl | try looking at the timetable itself | 15:36 |
| yvl | click on your school year on the top | 15:36 |
| ryanpg | k | 15:37 |
| yvl | school timetables | 15:37 |
| yvl | and then on you timetable link | 15:37 |
| ryanpg | err... that's what I'm referring to | 15:37 |
| ryanpg | that page it titled Timetable schema default | 15:37 |
| yvl | ok... | 15:37 |
| ryanpg | I posted a screenshot already :) | 15:37 |
| yvl | sorry, missed that somehow :) | 15:38 |
| ryanpg | aha! nope | 15:38 |
| ryanpg | I figured it out | 15:38 |
| ryanpg | I didn't use military time for the afternoon! | 15:38 |
| ryanpg | ok, so 1) is there anyway to edit a timetable 2) why are we using 24 hour timetables anyway :P | 15:39 |
| ryanpg | also, as I was following the book closely, a note in documentation might be good :D | 15:40 |
| yvl | we're remaking the timetables ATM | 15:40 |
| yvl | and - https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/446666 | 15:40 |
| ryanpg | "This form is finicky and wants the times in 24 hour (military) format:" | 15:41 |
| yvl | you didn't enter it in 24 hour format, did you... :) | 15:41 |
| ryanpg | well, this is quite interesting/confusing | 15:41 |
| yvl | that sometimes happen with multi-national teams | 15:42 |
| ryanpg | yvl, right did you see my comment above just after "I figured it out" | 15:42 |
| ryanpg | :D | 15:42 |
| ryanpg | thanks for helping me look at that one! | 15:42 |
| yvl | umm... you're welcome? :)))) | 15:42 |
| yvl | ok, lack of validation is very, very bad | 15:43 |
| yvl | I'll change the bug description | 15:43 |
| ryanpg | so for now the answer to my questions above are 1) no and 2) we're changing that ??? | 15:43 |
| yvl | 1) no, but we will be changing that | 15:44 |
| yvl | 2) historical reasons and we will be changing that | 15:44 |
| ryanpg | awesome, too bad I can't edit my initial bug, as it is now a completely different bug! lol | 15:45 |
| yvl | well, I can ;) | 15:45 |
| ryanpg | excellent, thank you - I'm adding a "final note" | 15:46 |
| ryanpg | thanks yvl | 15:48 |
| yvl | thank you! | 15:48 |
| ryanpg | you're welcome, though my initial guess was all wrong, it was actually fun to figure it out with your guidance. :) | 15:49 |
| ryanpg | did my "other" bug disappear? was it not a bug somehow? or related to this one? | 15:50 |
| yvl | marked as duplicate | 15:50 |
| ryanpg | is it though? | 15:50 |
| yvl | you mean https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/639719 ? | 15:51 |
| ryanpg | yeah | 15:51 |
| yvl | ok | 15:51 |
| yvl | I prematurely assumed it's not a bug probably | 15:52 |
| yvl | I mean - http://launchpadlibrarian.net/55805800/Screenshot-2.png | 15:52 |
| yvl | shows that | 15:52 |
| yvl | "Once the school timetable is established, the calendar should match rather than have generic hourly designations." | 15:53 |
| ryanpg | I'm referring to the uh... not-logged-in calendar | 15:53 |
| yvl | oh, you should have mentioned that :) | 15:54 |
| yvl | yep, that can be considered a bug :) | 15:55 |
| ryanpg | yes, I see now that the bug report was unclear | 15:55 |
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| ryanpg | it's difficult to identify elements of ST as they don't all have unique or descriptive names | 15:56 |
| ryanpg | I discovered this when presenting it to the staff | 15:56 |
| ryanpg | I just invented names to distinguish the "school calendar" from the "personal calendars" etc. | 15:56 |
| yvl | yeah, I know.. | 15:56 |
| yvl | (it's not that easy to name them, by the way ;) ) | 15:57 |
| ryanpg | Oh I'm sure - have to do back-end development AND ui development | 15:57 |
| ryanpg | pretty impressive job really, most large commercial projects have a UI team | 15:58 |
| ryanpg | and I consider ST to be = to a "large commercial project" in terms of complexity | 15:58 |
| yvl | well, thanks! :) | 15:58 |
| * ryanpg wishes bugs could be edited by submitters, but understands completely why they cant :) | 15:59 | |
| ryanpg | welcome, in fact my friend does exactly this sort of work for M$ and other fortune 500 companies, it ain't easy and ain't always fun. so thank YOU! | 15:59 |
| yvl | LP is quite reasonable software ;) | 16:00 |
| ryanpg | yeah, though LP takes quite a bit of heat for various reasons | 16:00 |
| ryanpg | as a user - it's great | 16:00 |
| ryanpg | so, I as I mentioned.... I did a presentation of ST to our staff | 16:01 |
| yvl | how did it go? | 16:04 |
| yvl | (I was away to get some coffee ;) ) | 16:05 |
| ryanpg | yvl, well, I'd like to describe it - but I kinda want to wait for th1 too | 16:05 |
| ryanpg | it actually went really really poorly :( I actually found myself wishing you guys were there to help and to hear | 16:05 |
| ryanpg | it was in fact, probably the worst presentation of a new program I've ever given - keep in mind, I have found my fellow teachers (as a broad and unfair generalization) to be very resistant to change :D | 16:07 |
| ryanpg | but yvl, please don't consider that a criticism of ST or your work - I didn't - but I can describe what people's reaction was | 16:07 |
| yvl | well it's not that surprising - many users are (myself included ;) ) | 16:07 |
| yvl | please do :) | 16:08 |
| ryanpg | I am too, but in this case I was extra-disappointed, as I consider ST to be a great tool to HELP teachers | 16:08 |
| ryanpg | yvl, should I wait for th1 or just rely on his reading the logs? | 16:08 |
| yvl | probably it would be better to wait for th1a | 16:09 |
| yvl | (and I'll read the logs :) ) | 16:09 |
| ryanpg | lol, yeah this is the end of your day | 16:09 |
| yvl | and Friday :) | 16:09 |
| ryanpg | yay! | 16:09 |
| * yvl seconds | 16:09 | |
| ryanpg | well, I think you've helped me quite enough for one day - I'm sure I'll improve in my "bug submitting skills" | 16:10 |
| ryanpg | future bugs will more accurately describe the problem - I hope :P | 16:10 |
| yvl | it's fine - as long as you are there to give more information :) | 16:11 |
| ryanpg | should we edit the description of 639719 or wait to see if it's actually a side-effect of the one we worked on today | 16:11 |
| yvl | I already did that ;) | 16:13 |
| ryanpg | ah... I just refreshed but didn't see changes | 16:13 |
| ryanpg | well, I was referring to the description, but the title is clear | 16:14 |
| yvl | it should be enough :) | 16:14 |
| ryanpg | well, I'm off to do not ST related work, I'll keep IRC up though | 16:15 |
| ryanpg | have a great weekend yvl - in case we don't talk again today | 16:15 |
| yvl | good luck! :) | 16:15 |
| yvl | you too :) | 16:15 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: What did Jeff do? | 17:51 |
| replaceafill | th1a, he had two timetables associated with the section | 17:52 |
| replaceafill | so the journal was showing two columns for each day, one for each tt | 17:52 |
| th1a | The section was scheduled to two different timetables? | 17:54 |
| th1a | I don't think you should be able to do that. | 17:54 |
| th1a | But perhaps I'm confused. | 17:54 |
| replaceafill | i went to the section and clicked the Schedule button | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | and there were two timetables | 17:56 |
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| th1a | Don't you have to choose one with the radio button? | 17:59 |
| th1a | There were literally two full timetables? | 17:59 |
| replaceafill | yes, with periods and all | 17:59 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, i'll send you the screenshot of what he had | 18:00 |
| th1a | Well, that's some kind of bug. | 18:00 |
| replaceafill | th1a, sent | 18:02 |
| th1a | What page is that even? | 18:03 |
| th1a | How do you get there? | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | go to a section | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | the Schedule button | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | the name of the view is /timetable | 18:04 |
| replaceafill | /timetables | 18:05 |
| th1a | I have no idea what you're talking about. | 18:05 |
| th1a | Was this changed since the last release? | 18:06 |
| th1a | If I hit schedule I get the form with checkboxes to set the schedule. | 18:06 |
| th1a | For the section. | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | this is the last release | 18:06 |
| th1a | I'm looking at schedule.html | 18:07 |
| replaceafill | i can load the schedule.html view too, but the button takes me to the /timetables view | 18:08 |
| th1a | How do you get to schedule.html? | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | changing the url | 18:09 |
| th1a | How would you edit the section schedule? | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | the instance is uing schooltool-1.5.1-py2.6.egg | 18:09 |
| replaceafill | see the screenshot | 18:10 |
| replaceafill | you have a 'edit periods' link | 18:11 |
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| th1a | Uh huh. | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | there you can change the periods (schedule) | 18:15 |
| th1a | Well, one way or another we have different version. | 18:15 |
| th1a | Can you see how he added multiple timetables? | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | using the 'Add Timetable' button in the screenshot | 18:15 |
| replaceafill | i just tested it and it's possible | 18:16 |
| th1a | Can you see when this was changed? | 18:17 |
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| replaceafill | th1a, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/trunk/revision/2687 | 18:21 |
| th1a | ok | 18:21 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 18:22 |
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