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| replaceafill | aelkner, u up? | 10:48 |
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| th1a | menesis: Can you answer my email about package descriptions, please? | 17:04 |
| menesis | th1a: ok, soon | 17:07 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 17:07 |
| th1a | I don't need you to write real descriptions, just clarify what each does so I can write it. | 17:08 |
| th1a | Also clarify the title/sub-title thing. | 17:08 |
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| th1a | replaceafill: I need your invoice. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | th1a, ah ok, will write it and send it | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | th1a, can i ask you something about report cards? | 17:28 |
| th1a | I have to pay my taxes tomorrow. ;-) | 17:28 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:28 |
| replaceafill | in the Report Card Layout view, we have two fieldsets: Grid columns and Outline activities | 17:29 |
| replaceafill | am i right if i think grid columns are used for showing the table in the default report card and... | 17:30 |
| replaceafill | outline activities to show details about the grades? | 17:30 |
| * replaceafill should check the book... | 17:30 | |
| replaceafill | ah the book doesn't have those two fieldsets yet | 17:31 |
| th1a | Well, the outline is for when you'd prefer an outline view -- specifically if you have comments. | 17:32 |
| th1a | That's why it was added. | 17:32 |
| th1a | But if you generally would prefer your reportcard to look like this: | 17:32 |
| th1a | English | 17:33 |
| th1a | Term 1 | 17:33 |
| th1a | A | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | right, i saw activities that used the comment score system available for outline but not for columns | 17:33 |
| th1a | You could do that too. | 17:33 |
| th1a | Right. They don't fit, ofc. | 17:33 |
| replaceafill | i don't know how many users are using this, but one thing i noticed while i was testing it was: titles are cut and they become confusing | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | for example | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | when you select the activity you want in the report card | 17:34 |
| replaceafill | I ended with serveral "2010 - ReportShe - ReportActivity" options in those dropdowns | 17:35 |
| th1a | Truncated in the dropdowns? | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | term.title[:9], deployedWorksheet.title[:9], activity.title[:14] | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | yes | 17:35 |
| th1a | Well, perhaps you should fix those bugs. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | and i mean, the form is really narrow | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | making the form wider would give us some room | 17:36 |
| th1a | Do that. | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | cool | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | th1a, one last issue on my mind about reports | 17:36 |
| replaceafill | well, i better test it and ask later :) | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | it's just that cambodia uses different max values for the score systems | 17:37 |
| replaceafill | for different sections | 17:37 |
| th1a | OK. This is definitely an area that was written for one school and worked for them; and I didn't want to start arbitrarily | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | ah | 17:38 |
| th1a | adding fairly random stuff. | 17:38 |
| th1a | I mean, I know there is a lot to be done, but decided to let people try it and give feedback. | 17:38 |
| th1a | So definitely assume changes are needed. | 17:38 |
| replaceafill | got it | 17:39 |
| th1a | replaceafill: That is, it was designed fairly generally, but only really tested one place. | 17:42 |
| th1a | So the foundation should be ok. | 17:43 |
| th1a | But not surprising if details like you're coming across need love. | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | right | 17:43 |
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| th1a | menesis: ayt? | 18:45 |
| menesis | th1a: yes | 18:48 |
| th1a | So... I'm looking at package descriptions in Synaptic, and the Ubuntu Software Center for, say GIMP or openoffice.org, | 18:48 |
| th1a | and they aren't the same. | 18:48 |
| th1a | So perhaps something else is going on here in USC. | 18:49 |
| th1a | Anyhow... I'll explore that. | 18:51 |
| th1a | But that's one source of my confusion. | 18:51 |
| th1a | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoftwareCenter#Determining software item information | 18:52 |
| menesis | I was just looking at the same page | 18:53 |
| th1a | What is app-install-data? | 18:53 |
| menesis | I do not use software center, so do not have expectations how packages should look there | 18:54 |
| th1a | I wasn't expecting it to be any different than Synaptic. | 18:56 |
| menesis | app-install-data contains additional information (desktop files, icons) for all (even not installed) packages | 18:57 |
| menesis | synaptic does not use this information | 18:58 |
| th1a | That might explain some of the mysteries of Ubuntu. | 18:58 |
| menesis | we will want to add schooltool logo to app-install-data, but for libraries, it looks good to me as is. | 19:03 |
| th1a | Can we do that ourselves from our package? | 19:04 |
| menesis | if no additional data (from .desktop files) is available, the names/descriptions used are the same | 19:04 |
| menesis | don't know yet | 19:04 |
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| menesis | schooltool shows up in software center only if it is installed, or is available from main/universe. so adding the icon is a goal for Natty. | 19:12 |
| menesis | descriptions can be improved now | 19:12 |
| th1a | Ah... ok. | 19:12 |
| th1a | Just worry about "traditional" descriptions. | 19:13 |
| th1a | Is there a cli interface for me to view the package data? | 19:13 |
| th1a | Or, perhaps I should say, what is it? | 19:14 |
| * th1a tries 'man dpkg' | 19:15 | |
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| replaceafill | th1a, "apt-cache show <package>"? | 19:17 |
| * menesis bbl | 19:18 | |
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| th1a | menesis: ayt? | 21:33 |
| menesis | th1a: maybe | 22:09 |
| th1a | You're maybe here or that's the answer to my question? | 22:10 |
| menesis | I am near the computer but not paying attention | 22:15 |
| menesis | replied your email | 22:15 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 22:15 |
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