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| th1a | Good morning/afternoon yvl, menesis, aelkner, replaceafill. | 16:30 |
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| yvl | good morning | 16:30 |
| menesis | hi | 16:30 |
| * yvl notices the time and runs away to make coffee... | 16:30 | |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:31 |
| aelkner | morning all | 16:31 |
| th1a | I guess we'll let replaceafill start. | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | ok | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | javier finally responded last week | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | i made several UI changes to cambodia | 16:33 |
| yvl | fwd, please? :) | 16:33 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i did | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | (i guess) | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | i also worked in cleaning a css conflict with cando + gradebook | 16:34 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i worked in a branch because i wasnt sure what is the best way to handle that | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | i mean, should plugins provide their own layer | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | cando does | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | but the gradebook doesnt | 16:35 |
| yvl | there are several ways to do that, I'm a bit undecided at the moment | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 16:36 |
| yvl | I'd like all extensions to have "namespaces" in their css | 16:36 |
| th1a | That's what I was thinking. | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | namespaces? | 16:36 |
| replaceafill | like 'gradebook-container'? | 16:37 |
| yvl | something like that | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | 'gradebook-message'? | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | ah | 16:37 |
| yvl | just some standard way of naming | 16:37 |
| th1a | Not that we want them re-inventing the wheel. | 16:37 |
| replaceafill | they won't collide that way | 16:37 |
| aelkner | yeah, a convenion of some sort would help avoid confusion | 16:38 |
| yvl | precisely :) | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | and i just noticed cando wont build with the latest changes | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | a buildout version problem | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | i guess we need to update cando buildout configuration | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | to use the same as trunks, right? | 16:38 |
| replaceafill | i mean base.cfg | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | maybe the extends and find-links lines? | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | and btw, cando is still svn | 16:39 |
| replaceafill | svn.schooltool.org not launchpad yet | 16:39 |
| yvl | yes, I was going to bring this up today | 16:39 |
| yvl | first, ther's a question for th1a | 16:40 |
| th1a | What's the question? | 16:40 |
| yvl | do we want CanDo in Maverick; when and where do we want it? | 16:40 |
| yvl | PPA? Universe? Now? Few months after release? | 16:41 |
| yvl | On demand in, say, 2011? | 16:41 |
| th1a | tbh I don't have any strong feelings about it. | 16:41 |
| th1a | It is not a priority. | 16:41 |
| menesis | replaceafill: i will solve the cando buildout problem soon | 16:41 |
| th1a | PPA is fine for the near future. | 16:41 |
| replaceafill | menesis, ah cool thanks | 16:42 |
| yvl | ok, PPA after Maverick release then | 16:42 |
| th1a | I mean, that's the status quo, right? | 16:42 |
| yvl | I just wanted it to be explicit | 16:42 |
| yvl | wasn't sure... | 16:42 |
| th1a | Right. | 16:43 |
| yvl | then - updating CanDo to new KGS is also not a priority | 16:43 |
| th1a | Not a priority for YOU, yvl. | 16:43 |
| th1a | (or menesis) | 16:43 |
| yvl | sorry, that's what I meant | 16:43 |
| th1a | If it is something replaceafill can quickly bring up to date that would be good. | 16:44 |
| yvl | It would be better if we wait until 1.6 release | 16:44 |
| th1a | I don't, in general, want CanDo getting too far out of sync (ever again). | 16:44 |
| yvl | switch from stable to stable | 16:44 |
| yvl | (not to trunk at any point) | 16:44 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:45 |
| yvl | if it can wait a month... | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | so, to sum up, the definite approach to fix cando css issue is to put namespaces, correct? | 16:45 |
| yvl | and we can then also move it to Launchpad maybe? | 16:45 |
| th1a | I am ok with that approach. | 16:45 |
| replaceafill | cando-table, cando-foo, cando-bar... | 16:45 |
| yvl | yes | 16:45 |
| th1a | (the css namespace approach, that is) | 16:45 |
| yvl | where it's clashing only | 16:45 |
| yvl | for now | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | +1 on moving cando to launchpad | 16:46 |
| th1a | So the last time we talked about this, we didn't definitively move CanDo? | 16:46 |
| yvl | no, we just thought that it would be a good idea | 16:46 |
| th1a | We certainly talked about it enough. | 16:46 |
| replaceafill | th1a, no, it's still at svn.schooltool.org/cando | 16:46 |
| yvl | it would be good to keep commit history though | 16:46 |
| yvl | it's useful | 16:46 |
| th1a | It will all still be in svn though, unless we turn the server off. | 16:47 |
| yvl | yes | 16:47 |
| th1a | At this point, it doesn't seem like it will actually happen unless we don't worry about the history. | 16:47 |
| yvl | but I prefer to switch dev focus to Launchpad and update buildbots | 16:47 |
| th1a | That is fine with me. | 16:47 |
| yvl | well, it's been done before | 16:48 |
| th1a | I just want it done. | 16:48 |
| yvl | let's do the release and give some love to CanDo after? :) | 16:48 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | please | 16:48 |
| th1a | Perfect. | 16:48 |
| yvl | great :) | 16:48 |
| yvl | kick me if I forget ;) | 16:48 |
| replaceafill | ok, th1a, to finish i'm going to send the po template to cambodia when i'm done with the latest UI changes | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | so they can translate everything i changed so far | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | and i can take a look of the UI in khmer | 16:49 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i guess that's it | 16:50 |
| th1a | Yeah, I wasn't sure if I was doing something wrong but it looked like less than half of it was translated on my trunk versino. | 16:50 |
| th1a | verion | 16:50 |
| th1a | version. | 16:50 |
| replaceafill | yes, there are a lot of new messages since we moved from the demo | 16:51 |
| replaceafill | that is what it's translated to khmer | 16:51 |
| th1a | Yeah, we changed a lot of the UI, so it isn't surprising. | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | yes | 16:52 |
| th1a | Did you work with your local school as well? | 16:52 |
| replaceafill | ah yes!!! el calvario gradebook is done! | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | (damn i forgot to report) | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | i'm going to set up a meeting with the principal today | 16:53 |
| replaceafill | so i can go to the school | 16:53 |
| th1a | Which changes were for them? | 16:54 |
| replaceafill | well, not many changes to core gradebook, i just created default report sheets | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | they worked fine for el calvario | 16:55 |
| th1a | Did you make the report sheets apply to specific levels? | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | not yet, i talked to the 7-9 teachers and they agreed to use the same layout a 1-6 | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | so it wasn't necessary | 16:56 |
| replaceafill | it will for cambodia though | 16:56 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:57 |
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| th1a | So you have some things in the queue to do for Cambodia? | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | yes, enough for a couple of days, then i'm going to send my changes to Javier | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | changes in the some default groups (views, new levels, etc) | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | default views | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | (groups, new levels, etc) | 16:59 |
| th1a | The report sheet thing should take a few days at least. | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | ah and the popup form javier wants to input villages, provinces, etc from the student form | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | th1a, that's it | 17:01 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Quick interlude... | 17:01 |
| th1a | Assuming we, um, start assuming Javascript, | 17:01 |
| th1a | we could start adding in "Change successful" type pop ups | 17:01 |
| th1a | on the many forms which sort of just cycle back when you make a change, right? | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | well, for cambodia, javier said JS could be forced in the browsers | 17:02 |
| th1a | We're really just crippling ourselves at this point to not use javascript. | 17:02 |
| th1a | But anyhow, without getting too derailed here, we should probably do that. | 17:03 |
| yvl | pop-ups? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | yvl, i like the z3c.flashmessage? approach better | 17:03 |
| th1a | Javascript popups. | 17:03 |
| aelkner | the way launchpad does it? | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | when you edit something, then get back to the index screen and you get the message saying you did good | 17:03 |
| th1a | z3c.flashmessage? | 17:03 |
| aelkner | they give a popup that disolves | 17:04 |
| th1a | Something like that. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | th1a, right now, you go to the edit view, change something and get the same edit form with the success message | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | i think you should go to the edit form, change something and if everything is fine, you go back to the person index (or whatever other view) and you see the succes message there | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | not in the form | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | the z3c.flashmessage package use this approch (using sessions i guess) | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | the edit form queue the message, and the index view displays it | 17:06 |
| th1a | Sorry, kid crisis. | 17:08 |
| th1a | I'm back. | 17:08 |
| yvl | ok | 17:08 |
| yvl | so, in what scenarios do you want the pop-ups? | 17:08 |
| th1a | I was just thinking as I was setting up demos last week. | 17:08 |
| th1a | There are a number of places where you submit a form and end up back at the form. | 17:09 |
| replaceafill | edit forms mostly | 17:09 |
| th1a | Sometimes with a small success message, sometimes not. | 17:09 |
| yvl | what about in-place editing? | 17:09 |
| th1a | After you submit the form. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Anyhow, I'm dragging us off topic. | 17:10 |
| th1a | Something to keep in mind for the future though. | 17:10 |
| yvl | ok | 17:10 |
| yvl | just my two cents, if I may | 17:10 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:10 |
| replaceafill | please | 17:10 |
| yvl | first, I've been thinking about this for a *while* now | 17:11 |
| yvl | and I really miss the UI sugar | 17:11 |
| yvl | javascript complicates testing, and when not tested may break like our FCK widget | 17:11 |
| yvl | and, believe me, it's a b*tch to test it | 17:12 |
| yvl | it has been done by many people, it's always a maintainance burden | 17:12 |
| yvl | so we need to be careful | 17:12 |
| yvl | but we definitely should add some dynamics in the pages | 17:13 |
| yvl | especially the forms, like th1a mentioned | 17:13 |
| yvl | so in general - I'm strongly inclined to add the sugar | 17:13 |
| yvl | I also liked Launchpad's in-place editing | 17:13 |
| yvl | and I think we can add that at some point | 17:14 |
| yvl | assuming we move to z3c.form | 17:14 |
| yvl | and write what glue we need, of course | 17:14 |
| yvl | it just has to be extremely simple | 17:14 |
| yvl | the javascript part of it, I mean | 17:15 |
| yvl | I'm done :) | 17:15 |
| th1a | OK. Now you can start talking about packaging. ;-) | 17:15 |
| th1a | (or menesis) | 17:16 |
| yvl | let's start with some good news then? ;) | 17:16 |
| th1a | OK! | 17:16 |
| yvl | as menesis pointed out, the freeze does not affect us that much | 17:16 |
| th1a | Yes... that is good. | 17:16 |
| yvl | so, actually, we still have some time | 17:16 |
| yvl | Sep 16th is the deadline | 17:16 |
| yvl | for the *final* schooltool release | 17:17 |
| yvl | so we got a very small window, actually | 17:17 |
| yvl | and we depend on other people to upload part of Zope form PPA to Universe | 17:18 |
| th1a | Exactly where are we right now? | 17:18 |
| menesis | I have most of packages that are in Ubuntu updated | 17:19 |
| menesis | and uploading other packages to the ppa, so that sponsors can take them and upload to archive | 17:20 |
| menesis | half of all packages are okay. | 17:20 |
| menesis | what's left are update mostly zope.app. to newer versions and upload to ppa | 17:21 |
| th1a | How long do those take? | 17:21 |
| menesis | can take as little as 5 minutes per package | 17:21 |
| menesis | the more complicated packages are uploaded already | 17:22 |
| menesis | I think the rest are mostly repetitive check/modify/upload | 17:22 |
| th1a | Good. | 17:23 |
| menesis | should take 2-3 days to complete | 17:23 |
| th1a | So have some of our packages been approved by sponsors already? | 17:23 |
| menesis | then, ask for sponsors to upload them, and I move to release and package newer schooltool | 17:24 |
| th1a | I guess you said wait until this week because of the beta freeze? | 17:24 |
| menesis | no, I have not asked anyone to upload what's already available | 17:24 |
| menesis | should have been good to ask earlier | 17:24 |
| th1a | We should do that now, correct? | 17:24 |
| menesis | but now it is beta freeze until september 2, not a good time to upload | 17:25 |
| menesis | we can ask now | 17:25 |
| th1a | Well, perhaps we should give them a warning. | 17:25 |
| menesis | to see who is willing to sponsor them | 17:25 |
| yvl | yes, we talked about that today | 17:25 |
| th1a | We'd better get that process going. | 17:25 |
| yvl | few days warning should help, IMHO | 17:26 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:26 |
| menesis | I have posted some instructions to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Zope/Maverick | 17:26 |
| yvl | I'll also probably make a small tool to sort the package upload order | 17:26 |
| menesis | th1a: if you could ask for me that would be a big help | 17:27 |
| menesis | because I tend to defer writing emails :( | 17:27 |
| th1a | Well, I would need you to write exactly what I'm asking for and exactly who I'm asking, and you would have to answer any questions, so it seems unnecessarily indirect. | 17:28 |
| th1a | I'll happily proof read and edit though. | 17:29 |
| th1a | If that helps. | 17:29 |
| th1a | Or I can just have yvl come and glare over your shoulder. | 17:30 |
| th1a | You're just writing to other packaging geeks, so it isn't really a big deal. | 17:30 |
| menesis | I'd like the initial mail "hello we need help uploading a lot of packages" | 17:31 |
| menesis | with cc me and I answer the question sthen | 17:31 |
| th1a | Well, if you want to write to me explaining EXACTLY what I'm asking for, because all this remains hazy in my mind, I'll write the email. | 17:32 |
| menesis | yeah | 17:32 |
| th1a | OK, send me that today, please. | 17:33 |
| menesis | so it's the same if I simply write it myself | 17:33 |
| menesis | and better | 17:33 |
| menesis | that I send it myself | 17:33 |
| th1a | Whatever it takes. | 17:33 |
| menesis | ok will have to do it | 17:34 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:34 |
| menesis | or rather, should have done last month | 17:34 |
| th1a | Now, moving on to SchoolTool itself. | 17:35 |
| menesis | ok | 17:35 |
| th1a | I'm leaning toward thinking we should defer a new point release until Natty. | 17:36 |
| th1a | Put 1.4.3 (or whatever) in Maverick. | 17:36 |
| yvl | hmm | 17:37 |
| yvl | it has a changed KGS, so personally I prefer bumping the version | 17:38 |
| yvl | (and we kind of did that internally already, to 1.5) | 17:38 |
| th1a | More than the exact number, we're not really adding any significant big features at this point. | 17:38 |
| yvl | but I see your point | 17:38 |
| th1a | Correct? | 17:38 |
| menesis | there are not much changes in trunk, I only remember timetables for part of term feature | 17:39 |
| menesis | and maybe yvl will merge more timetables work | 17:39 |
| th1a | We've really been focusing on the pilot features. | 17:39 |
| th1a | Timetabling should have more time to test. | 17:39 |
| yvl | true | 17:40 |
| menesis | so it maybe does not deserve a new point release | 17:40 |
| th1a | It doesn't from the user's point of view. | 17:40 |
| menesis | but now trunk and 1.4 are based on different and partly incompatible zope kgs | 17:40 |
| th1a | I don't care what number. | 17:40 |
| th1a | All I'm saying is that at this point we're not trying to jam new features into the release. | 17:41 |
| yvl | ok | 17:41 |
| * yvl is actually really happy to hear this | 17:41 | |
| menesis | i.e. the 1.5.1 that I should release on friday is not backwards compatible with plugins for 1.4 series | 17:41 |
| menesis | well the numbers will be what they are | 17:42 |
| th1a | This sort of makes up for really shifting our release schedule back at least a month. | 17:42 |
| menesis | but there is no time to get in many new features | 17:42 |
| th1a | It is fine. | 17:42 |
| yvl | thank you, th1a! | 17:42 |
| th1a | I am not worried about new features in the release. | 17:42 |
| th1a | At all. | 17:42 |
| th1a | We just need to get it into Universe. Period. | 17:43 |
| th1a | OK, anything else from Lithuania? | 17:44 |
| yvl | one moment | 17:44 |
| th1a | menesis: EMAIL! | 17:44 |
| yvl | ah! | 17:44 |
| yvl | I saw aelkner mention some DB evolution failure on Fri or Sat | 17:44 |
| th1a | Oh! | 17:45 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:45 |
| aelkner | it was ok, i figured out what was wrong | 17:45 |
| th1a | ? | 17:45 |
| * yvl is interested | 17:45 | |
| aelkner | i branched schooltool trunk | 17:45 |
| aelkner | and did not add schooltool.gradebook to buildout.cfg | 17:45 |
| aelkner | so it crashed on evolving 33 to 35 | 17:46 |
| yvl | ah, yes, that :) | 17:46 |
| yvl | man, I'll fix that part someday | 17:46 |
| yvl | its too annoying | 17:46 |
| aelkner | yeah, it would be nice to have an error message that explains what to do | 17:46 |
| yvl | and by that I mean gradebook plugability and evolution stupidness | 17:47 |
| aelkner | otherwise it's always a matter of pdb tracing | 17:47 |
| aelkner | :) | 17:47 |
| yvl | ok then, no problems with this... | 17:47 |
| yvl | what else.. | 17:47 |
| aelkner | are you asking me? | 17:47 |
| th1a | aelkner, Did you get the scheduling bug figured out? | 17:48 |
| yvl | sorry, no, just rummaging through my notes :) | 17:48 |
| yvl | talking to myself | 17:48 |
| aelkner | ok, so before looking into the eolve bug, i tried to recreate the bug on a blank instance | 17:48 |
| yvl | ok, nothing worth mentioning today | 17:48 |
| aelkner | using the timetable that was in the xls file | 17:49 |
| aelkner | i schedule a section for Block A which was only available for days 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 of the seven day schedule | 17:49 |
| aelkner | i also set up the term to have sta, sun off and the second tuesday of the term | 17:50 |
| aelkner | at first, i thought i saw a bug, but with a closer look i realized that it all worked fine | 17:50 |
| aelkner | it even skipped th tuesday holiday as expected | 17:50 |
| aelkner | that got me to thinking | 17:50 |
| aelkner | perhaps if i was so easily confused by the rotating schedule, maybe so was Ryan | 17:51 |
| th1a | NO. | 17:51 |
| aelkner | well, i haven't seen the bug yet | 17:51 |
| aelkner | so i was going to look at his instance | 17:51 |
| th1a | OK, do that. | 17:51 |
| aelkner | that got me to solve the evolve bug | 17:52 |
| aelkner | then, the instance came up ok | 17:52 |
| yvl | when you look at the instance, | 17:52 |
| aelkner | only one problem: i couldn't log in :( | 17:52 |
| aelkner | don't have the mamanger password | 17:52 |
| th1a | I'll send it to you. | 17:52 |
| yvl | check if there is something ST treats as *not* school days | 17:52 |
| yvl | there are several rotating schedule handling cases | 17:53 |
| th1a | The problem is not in the model, yvl. | 17:53 |
| aelkner | the term determines what are not school days | 17:53 |
| th1a | We hide things from you now to keep you focused ;-) | 17:53 |
| yvl | :) | 17:53 |
| yvl | ok :) | 17:53 |
| aelkner | yeah, i don't want to bring the guys into this, they have enough on their plate | 17:54 |
| yvl | I won't get deep into this, that I promise | 17:54 |
| th1a | The problem is simply that when the calendar displays events from the rotating schedule it uses the days of the week instead of the rotating schedule day. | 17:54 |
| th1a | The data model is all correct. | 17:54 |
| aelkner | anyway, we need Ryan to send us a Data.fs with the manager password reset | 17:54 |
| th1a | I have a login. | 17:54 |
| yvl | you know what... | 17:54 |
| yvl | if you could give me that Data.fs somehow | 17:54 |
| yvl | it would help me later on | 17:55 |
| yvl | really | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, if you have the Data.fs you can reset the manager password using the python interpreter | 17:55 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, how? | 17:55 |
| * yvl badly needs "live" test data for timetable evolution... | 17:55 | |
| replaceafill | aelkner, will look for the script i used and send it to you | 17:55 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, thanks | 17:56 |
| th1a | I already sent him a login, so it isn't pressing. | 17:56 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:56 |
| th1a | So aelkner and I will follow up on that. | 17:56 |
| th1a | In the last four minutes here... | 17:56 |
| th1a | I had a great time at the local Maker Faire and everything worked. | 17:57 |
| yvl | congratulations! | 17:57 |
| th1a | Here's a video I have not yet watched: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/08/schooltool_connects_schools.html | 17:57 |
| th1a | In closing: menesis, write that email! | 17:58 |
| replaceafill | "This system helps remotely-located schools share data with national governmental ministries of education, through Ubuntu and SMS" | 17:58 |
| th1a | Well, it was so professionally presented, it seems like it already works. | 17:58 |
| menesis | th1a: thanks for insisting | 17:58 |
| yvl | (I was serious about that Data.fs. I promise to be gentle with sensitive data) | 17:59 |
| th1a | yvl: I'll send it to you -- it isn't *too* sensitive since school hasn't started yet. | 17:59 |
| yvl | thanks! | 17:59 |
| th1a | The first thing you should do though is fix the .xls importer, which is broken for this timetable model. | 18:00 |
| th1a | So maybe I should force you to use the spreadsheet. ;-) | 18:00 |
| aelkner | th1a, your login didn't work | 18:00 |
| yvl | :D | 18:00 |
| th1a | I guess replaceafill should just find his script. | 18:00 |
| * replaceafill looks then | 18:01 | |
| aelkner | th1a, in the meantime, i got the subgroup timetable view to present the group leader | 18:01 |
| th1a | Oh, good. | 18:01 |
| aelkner | i have one isse with the rml regarding centering text | 18:02 |
| th1a | aelkner, Are you sure you typed it correctly, since it still works on the live instance? | 18:02 |
| aelkner | the rml docs specify 'allignment' as one attribute of paraStyle | 18:02 |
| th1a | There is an exclamation point there. | 18:02 |
| aelkner | but alignment only works to center text left to right | 18:03 |
| aelkner | i was wondering if there is a vertical alignment option for paraStyle | 18:04 |
| aelkner | yvl, menesis, any ideas? | 18:04 |
| th1a | Why do you need that? | 18:04 |
| aelkner | the cells are rendering with text at the top of a cell sometimes, the bottom others | 18:05 |
| aelkner | depending on the length of the text i suppose | 18:05 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, script sent | 18:05 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, thanks | 18:05 |
| yvl | table cells have some vertical alignment | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, run it in a copy of your Data.fs ;) | 18:06 |
| yvl | don't remember how it's called though | 18:06 |
| replaceafill | hey! i used a non-explicit emoticon! | 18:06 |
| yvl | vAlign | 18:07 |
| yvl | <td vAlign="top">top</td> | 18:07 |
| yvl | go to ....../parts/omelette/z3c/rml/tests/input/ | 18:07 |
| yvl | for example rmls | 18:07 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, well done! | 18:07 |
| aelkner | on the emoticon i mean | 18:07 |
| aelkner | and thanks for the script, it worked like a charm | 18:08 |
| replaceafill | great! | 18:08 |
| yvl | also see <blockTableStyle> and <blockValign> | 18:08 |
| aelkner | yvl, thanks, that should help | 18:08 |
| yvl | by the way | 18:09 |
| yvl | th1a, I was cautiously thinking about biggest targets for the next release | 18:10 |
| yvl | user experience springs into mind | 18:10 |
| th1a | Yes. And reports. | 18:11 |
| yvl | UI polishing, speed, load tests on Tonido... | 18:11 |
| yvl | and reports, yes! | 18:11 |
| aelkner | landscape support? | 18:11 |
| th1a | Not another big plumbing project. | 18:11 |
| yvl | yes, aelkner :) | 18:11 |
| yvl | there will be enough plumbing for me, th1a :) | 18:11 |
| th1a | OK, let's wrap this up. | 18:12 |
| yvl | ok | 18:12 |
| th1a | I'm trying to keep yvl focused... | 18:12 |
| th1a | Have a great week gentlemen! | 18:12 |
| th1a | menesis: Write that email! | 18:12 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 18:12 | |
| yvl | great week to you all | 18:12 |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 18:13 |
| replaceafill | wow, the schooltoolbox looks really complex! | 18:13 |
| th1a | It was funny because I had to give some thought to presentation. | 18:14 |
| th1a | Like, I bought a crossover cable because my switch was bigger than the server. | 18:15 |
| th1a | And I got an extension cord instead of using a whole power strip. | 18:16 |
| th1a | Otherwise what I was trying to show off would be dwarfed by other infrastructure. | 18:16 |
| yvl | just watched it | 18:18 |
| yvl | looks quite impressive... | 18:19 |
| yvl | hats off! :) | 18:19 |
| th1a | It was good timing since by that point I'd had plenty of practice explaining it. | 18:19 |
| * replaceafill likes the brochure on the box (smile) | 18:19 | |
| aelkner | th1a, nice presentation! | 18:25 |
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| replaceafill | oh man | 19:31 |
| replaceafill | menesis, is the problem with cando related to changes in the version.cfg file? | 19:32 |
| menesis | replaceafill: i have fixed it | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | ah great! | 19:32 |
| menesis | replaceafill: but no | 19:32 |
| replaceafill | jelkner wants me to set up a new cando instance for him | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | will try it now, thanks menesis | 19:33 |
| menesis | it was because a new version of z3c.recipe.tag was released, and got picked up because it was not in versions.cfg | 19:33 |
| replaceafill | ah | 19:33 |
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| menesis | only the trunk versions were changed. but cando is based on stable schooltool 1.4 so is not affected | 19:34 |
| replaceafill | great, it's building now | 19:35 |
| jelkner | th1a: are you here? | 19:35 |
| th1a | I am here. | 19:35 |
| jelkner | i just tried to call you house | 19:36 |
| jelkner | got an answering machine | 19:36 |
| th1a | I thought I heard a phone ringing in the distance. | 19:36 |
| jelkner | can i try again? | 19:36 |
| jelkner | and expect a more favorable outcome? | 19:36 |
| th1a | yes. | 19:37 |
| th1a | Here's a video I have not yet watched: http://blog.makezine.com/archive/2010/08/schooltool_connects_schools.html | 19:40 |
| replaceafill | th1a, watch it! | 19:41 |
| jelkner | i just watched it... it's great! | 19:59 |
| th1a | jelkner: That should address the Liberia case. | 20:03 |
| jelkner | indeed | 20:14 |
| jelkner | it does | 20:14 |
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