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| th1a | ...made it online. | 16:24 |
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| th1a | Something seems to be shorted out or something in my laptop mouse buttons. | 16:24 |
| yvl | ouch | 16:24 |
| yvl | good to have you with us :) | 16:25 |
| th1a | I'm hoping a can of air will fix it. | 16:27 |
| * th1a goes to our some coffee. | 16:27 | |
| yvl | good idea | 16:28 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:31 |
| th1a | Good morning yvl, menesis, aelkner, replaceafill, menesis . | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:32 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:33 |
| th1a | I also haven't looked at email for a couple days. | 16:33 |
| yvl | morning! :) | 16:34 |
| th1a | OK, yvl, I thought you were on vacation? | 16:34 |
| yvl | not yet | 16:34 |
| yvl | I'll start Wed or Thu | 16:34 |
| yvl | and then off for a ~week | 16:35 |
| yvl | will be back 23rd latest | 16:35 |
| menesis | hello. | 16:35 |
| th1a | hi menesis. | 16:36 |
| th1a | OK... yvl, start us off please! | 16:36 |
| yvl | ok | 16:36 |
| yvl | menesis sent me an experimental KGS, there are branches with schooltool, journal, gradebook and interventions ported to it | 16:37 |
| yvl | it was easier than expected, still, time-consuming :( | 16:37 |
| yvl | there also was a guy building SchoolTool RPMs for one of one laptop per child projects, in Nepal | 16:38 |
| yvl | as for timetables, I can't believe how deep they got me in | 16:39 |
| yvl | so, again, nothing to show | 16:39 |
| yvl | it's kind of interesting, how much little things they actually touch | 16:40 |
| th1a | The problem isn't getting into timetables... it's getting out. | 16:40 |
| yvl | the ironic part, is that I've done with timetables themselves a wihle ago | 16:40 |
| yvl | it's putting them back into the ST that is hard | 16:41 |
| yvl | but I'll handle that, or die trying ;) | 16:41 |
| th1a | That's all I can ask. | 16:42 |
| yvl | sorry :| | 16:42 |
| yvl | anyway - it would be nice to give some focus to other things for a while | 16:42 |
| th1a | Do you think you can wrap it up before you go? | 16:42 |
| yvl | definitely not | 16:42 |
| th1a | Was the OLPC guy on IRC? | 16:42 |
| yvl | yes, I sent you an email | 16:42 |
| yvl | there were power problems at POV | 16:43 |
| yvl | so some of the chat is not logged | 16:43 |
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| th1a | Thanks yvl! | 16:44 |
| th1a | menesis: Do we have packages uploaded yet? | 16:45 |
| menesis | th1a: not yet :( | 16:45 |
| menesis | I made some progress but there are many to do still | 16:45 |
| th1a | Are you waiting to get the new KGS versions working? | 16:46 |
| menesis | I was doing both, fixing packages for the new kgs, and uploading existing packages | 16:48 |
| menesis | got rid of zope.deferredimport in the few remaining packages, for example, but still have to release them upstream (zope) | 16:49 |
| menesis | but first I have to get some version of packages uploaded | 16:49 |
| menesis | and fix later | 16:49 |
| th1a | Anything in particular blocking you? | 16:49 |
| th1a | (I know these things are time-consuming) | 16:49 |
| menesis | I'd like van.pydeb to stop adding namespace packages to dependencies to avoid adding python-z3c or similar empty packages. | 16:50 |
| th1a | Ah. Well, I presume you can take that up with Brian Sutherland. | 16:51 |
| menesis | also there was a request from Mathias Klose to start migrating to dh_python2 from python-central, looked into that. | 16:51 |
| menesis | but since it's not in Lucid is harder to test, I think I will defer this for later. | 16:52 |
| menesis | no other problems I remember | 16:52 |
| th1a | How far do you think you'll get this week? | 16:53 |
| menesis | not far enough, depends on sponsors. | 16:53 |
| th1a | OK, so sponsors are the bottleneck now? | 16:54 |
| th1a | If you need me to poke someone, let me know. | 16:54 |
| menesis | no, I am too slow. | 16:55 |
| menesis | but will have to ask sponsors when I have more ready | 16:56 |
| th1a | OK. Keep plugging away, and if yvl or replaceafill can help, let me know. | 16:57 |
| th1a | Thanks, menesis. | 16:57 |
| menesis | will continue. | 16:57 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | ok, i made some progress last week with cambodia | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | the student form mostly | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | i got quick feedback from them | 16:58 |
| replaceafill | i asked many questions too | 16:59 |
| replaceafill | th1a, i don't know if you saw javier's last email, but it seems like he hasn't realized yet that students will be entered by "admins" | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | he made an observation about having an admin around would be difficult | 17:00 |
| th1a | I haven't seen it yet. Who does he think is going to do it? | 17:00 |
| th1a | Teachers? | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | probably, it's one of my questions for this week | 17:00 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | i want to clarify that | 17:00 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:01 |
| th1a | We can set the permissions however he wants. | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | now, i'm working on small ui improvements, like putting navigation action buttons | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | to go back from one view to the indexes view | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | i guess i'll send an update on thursday | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | also, i've been helping glenda lewis to understand cando's latest changes | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | and how things work now | 17:03 |
| th1a | Yes, I need to sort out exactly what permission changes she wants. | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | and i guess that's it :/ | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | ah yes | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | she wants some kind of "view only but view all" permission | 17:04 |
| th1a | Just keep the response loop with Cambodia as rapid as possible. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | will do | 17:04 |
| th1a | That permissions change should be easy as long as we can do it for the whole crowd. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | sure | 17:05 |
| th1a | That's what I was thinking when I said it wouldn't take long. ;-) | 17:05 |
| th1a | OK, thanks replaceafill! aelkner? | 17:06 |
| aelkner | i cleaned up some loose ends and submitted merge requests | 17:07 |
| aelkner | menesis, my top priority is the zambia merge and package creation | 17:07 |
| aelkner | the csv views for gradebook and intervention are not as critical | 17:07 |
| aelkner | i figure i can send Jen an email as soon as the zambia package is ready | 17:08 |
| aelkner | to let her try out the teachers timetable | 17:08 |
| menesis | the zambia changes do not need the csv views? | 17:09 |
| aelkner | no, that was only needed for sla at the moment | 17:09 |
| aelkner | some one in the future may be interested, but no one at the moment is waiting for them | 17:09 |
| menesis | I looked at the code, it seems complicated, but if it works then ok, will merge and release. | 17:09 |
| menesis | good. | 17:10 |
| aelkner | thanks | 17:10 |
| aelkner | i sent a note to david explaining what he needed to do to use the intervention system | 17:10 |
| aelkner | he sent a confusing note about trouble installing cando | 17:11 |
| aelkner | i thought he was supposed to be using the schooltool.zambia install that replaceafill did | 17:11 |
| aelkner | and eventually, i was going to create sandbox for schooltool.niepa | 17:11 |
| th1a | What I need you to do is immediately respond to something like that with a question to him. | 17:12 |
| th1a | Not wonder about it. | 17:12 |
| aelkner | well, i wanted to talk about it here first in case you knew what he was trying to do | 17:12 |
| th1a | I know. Don't do that though. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Just ask him. | 17:13 |
| aelkner | replaceafill, did you see his note about the cando pid problem? | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | yes, but i didnt understand either | 17:14 |
| replaceafill | he says ST complains about no PID | 17:14 |
| yvl | that should mean that server has not started | 17:14 |
| aelkner | he says it says that while trying to start the server | 17:15 |
| replaceafill | maybe he should send the paste.log? | 17:15 |
| yvl | of course! | 17:15 |
| yvl | that tells what was broken some 80% of the time | 17:16 |
| th1a | But also, we have no idea even what version he's trying to use. He's got eggs versions, deb versions, etc. | 17:16 |
| th1a | Anyhow, aelkner, you should ask him for those things. | 17:17 |
| th1a | And if he wants to run a local instance, he should use .debs. | 17:17 |
| aelkner | you mean apt-get install, right? | 17:18 |
| th1a | YEs. | 17:18 |
| aelkner | i assume that's what he tried, but i'll ask | 17:18 |
| th1a | DON'T ASSUME! | 17:19 |
| th1a | Especially when you're trying to get a non-technical user on the other side of the planet to get a server running. | 17:19 |
| th1a | It is best to be reply immediately even if only to ask a simple question. | 17:20 |
| th1a | It makes everyone feel better. | 17:20 |
| th1a | Anyhow... | 17:21 |
| th1a | Are you running low on pending tasks, aelkner? | 17:21 |
| aelkner | yes | 17:21 |
| aelkner | still no word from ms. taiwo | 17:21 |
| th1a | Not much we can do about that. | 17:22 |
| th1a | Send a screenshot of the report to Jen. | 17:22 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:22 |
| th1a | Or perhaps an archive of the whole page. | 17:22 |
| th1a | I guess it is probably just HTML, so it may just be one file anyhow. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | usually saving a page as an html file cause there to be an annoying corresponding directory | 17:23 |
| aelkner | that isn't so easily attached in an email | 17:23 |
| aelkner | but i can send her the same two screenshots i sent you | 17:24 |
| th1a | That's a start. | 17:24 |
| th1a | Anyhow, do that. | 17:24 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:24 |
| aelkner | i thought that perhaps i could look into what it would take to do interventions on resources | 17:24 |
| aelkner | even though you said we don't need that until November | 17:25 |
| th1a | There's that and the other big report for Mpelembe. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Their report card or transcript. | 17:26 |
| aelkner | ok, i could look at that instead | 17:26 |
| th1a | Why don't we both look at that and talk on the phone after lunch. | 17:28 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:29 |
| aelkner | i sent a quick note to david just now | 17:29 |
| th1a | All right. | 17:30 |
| th1a | Thanks aelkner! | 17:30 |
| th1a | I got an old Nokia 6021 handset finally -- it actually came from Israel. | 17:30 |
| th1a | It is just the right size to be velcroed onto the side of the SheevaPlug. | 17:31 |
| th1a | And the USB drivers are supposed to work with Linux. | 17:31 |
| th1a | And I got the USB cable, so I've just about got the SchoolToolBox SMS prototype ready... | 17:32 |
| th1a | but it came with a European power adapter, whose cord I cut in three places trying to extract from a wad of bubble wrap and packing tape. | 17:32 |
| th1a | So... I'm waiting on a new US adapter. | 17:32 |
| th1a | It's going to make a pretty amusing picture, though. | 17:33 |
| th1a | Very favela chic. | 17:33 |
| th1a | OK guys, have a great week! I'll be around but semi-afk. | 17:34 |
| th1a | Less so if I can get my laptop working... | 17:34 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:34 | |
| replaceafill | thanks everybody | 17:34 |
| aelkner | great week everyone | 17:34 |
| yvl | good week to you all! | 17:34 |
| yvl | th1a, please share photos some time | 17:35 |
| yvl | of the whole Sheeva-Nokia-... thingy :) | 17:35 |
| th1a | yvl: That will be more fun than actually getting it to work! | 17:35 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you use google chrome, correct? | 17:36 |
| yvl | by the way, if you decide to try out gammu (console) wammu (GTK), I'm really interested in results :) | 17:39 |
| yvl | ok... goodbye and good luck everyone ;) | 17:40 |
| th1a | replaceafill: Yes. | 17:40 |
| replaceafill | th1a, you're in better position to response dwelsh then :) | 17:41 |
| th1a | yvl: Presumably those should work since I specifically picked an old compatible phone model. | 17:41 |
| th1a | It works on Ubuntu just fine. | 17:41 |
| * replaceafill should check it... | 17:42 | |
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| menesis | aelkner: schooltool.zambia 0.0.2 deb is already available | 22:45 |
| aelkner | menesis, thanks | 23:36 |
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