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| th1a | Good morning aelkner, menesis, ignas, jelkner, replaceafill, Lumiere. | 16:32 |
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| th1a | Where's yvl? | 16:32 |
| replaceafill | good morning/afternoon | 16:33 |
| aelkner | good morning | 16:33 |
| th1a | aelkner: Are you going to fix SLA's duplicate report sheets with a script? | 16:36 |
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| aelkner | i intend to if chris gives me the go-ahead | 16:36 |
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| aelkner | i'm having problems getting schooltool to build with the sla package | 16:37 |
| aelkner | now that schooltool has a new way of building | 16:37 |
| aelkner | it doesn't like the sla package for some reason | 16:38 |
| th1a | What is happening? | 16:38 |
| aelkner | Error: Couldn't find a distribution for 'sla'. | 16:39 |
| aelkner | is a confusing message | 16:39 |
| aelkner | actually | 16:39 |
| aelkner | Couldn't find index page for 'sla' (maybe misspelled?) | 16:39 |
| aelkner | seems to be where the first failure occurs | 16:39 |
| th1a | That's when it is building? | 16:40 |
| aelkner | bin/buildout, yeah | 16:40 |
| th1a | menesis? | 16:40 |
| yvl | aelkner, hi, I'll look into that | 16:40 |
| aelkner | yvl: thanks | 16:41 |
| aelkner | i'll be corrdinating with chris alfano today | 16:42 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:42 |
| aelkner | to plan a time to install later tonight | 16:42 |
| th1a | Don't fiddle with anything which doesn't need to be fiddled with to get their narratives done. | 16:42 |
| aelkner | i don't want to fiddle with ayting i don't have to | 16:42 |
| aelkner | but i need to get the new packages loaded | 16:43 |
| aelkner | in order to do the file fix | 16:43 |
| yvl | aelkner, did you add path to sla in develop=? | 16:44 |
| aelkner | no, i didin't | 16:44 |
| yvl | we do not publish sla egg | 16:44 |
| aelkner | i'll try that now | 16:44 |
| aelkner | that's what i needed | 16:45 |
| aelkner | i knew it was something simple like that | 16:45 |
| aelkner | but i didn't know what it would be | 16:45 |
| aelkner | i like the new buildout.cfg simplicity | 16:45 |
| aelkner | i just need to get used to it | 16:46 |
| aelkner | it seems to be stuck installing the sla package, but i'm waiting to see | 16:47 |
| th1a | OK, lets get onto relelease preparations. | 16:47 |
| th1a | yvl, ? | 16:47 |
| yvl | not much to report | 16:47 |
| yvl | basically modified the way catalogs are set up | 16:47 |
| yvl | no bugfixes done yet | 16:48 |
| yvl | closest thing to do | 16:48 |
| yvl | is checking python 2.6 compatibility | 16:48 |
| yvl | as it happens, we must be compatible with python 2.6 | 16:48 |
| yvl | ST runs from the first glance, tests pass | 16:48 |
| yvl | but I'm not 100% convinced | 16:49 |
| yvl | somehow we missed out that python2.5 will not be included into Lucid :| | 16:49 |
| yvl | and Zope... | 16:49 |
| yvl | well, usual responce to the question if zope is python2.6 compatible | 16:50 |
| th1a | Are there upgraded Zope packages? | 16:50 |
| yvl | is "mostly" | 16:50 |
| yvl | yes | 16:50 |
| th1a | Zope is "mostly" compatible? | 16:50 |
| yvl | umm, more "as far as we know" | 16:50 |
| th1a | I see... | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:51 |
| th1a | Well... | 16:52 |
| yvl | in my opinion | 16:52 |
| th1a | Have a look at that. Are you planning on getting to the bugs we assigned you last week? | 16:52 |
| yvl | menesis and I should double-check that everything works | 16:52 |
| yvl | I don't want a broken release :) | 16:52 |
| yvl | Yes, once I'm convinced that we'll be fine | 16:52 |
| yvl | for example, see Theuni's answer: http://zope3.pov.lt/irclogs/%23zope3-dev.2010-03-31.log.html | 16:53 |
| th1a | Sure. I'd like to have some test packages for lucid soonish so I can try them. | 16:54 |
| yvl | yes | 16:54 |
| yvl | one thing | 16:54 |
| yvl | can menesis release schooltool as it is to Karmic? | 16:54 |
| th1a | As opposed to? | 16:55 |
| th1a | Waiting for the last batch of bugfixes? | 16:55 |
| yvl | releasing st to karmic a week later, after the freeze | 16:55 |
| yvl | yes | 16:55 |
| th1a | I think I'd rather have an extra week with working packages, if that makes sense to everyone else. | 16:56 |
| yvl | synching with Karmic first makes it easier to manage Lucid packages at this point, if I got him right :) | 16:56 |
| yvl | ok | 16:56 |
| th1a | Just to confirm we're all on the same page, | 16:56 |
| th1a | there will just be maintenance/security updates of the Karmic packages after the Lucid release? | 16:57 |
| yvl | yes | 16:57 |
| yvl | the releases are de facto managed like this: | 16:57 |
| yvl | you release for X | 16:57 |
| yvl | start developing | 16:57 |
| yvl | release to X from time to time again | 16:58 |
| yvl | once you reach release for Y | 16:58 |
| yvl | X is basically frozen, only backports / security fixes are ported | 16:58 |
| yvl | the active release quite closely follows trunk, actually | 16:59 |
| yvl | at least for now | 16:59 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:59 |
| yvl | by the way, some of the updates get ported to even older versions, I think | 16:59 |
| yvl | whatever makes sense to menesis... :) | 16:59 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:59 |
| th1a | OK. replaceafill? | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | i worked in the friendlier section bug | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | removing links the user doesnt have to see | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | i also added javascript to the courses and groups part of the person view | 17:01 |
| th1a | Did yvl and aelkner see that? | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | which brought a interesting question | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | i showed it to yvl | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | yvl, suggested to use the same approach for groups | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | so i did that | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | and yvl finished the new catalog functionality | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | so i can finish now the enrollment statuses | 17:02 |
| th1a | Ah, good. | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | in my list i only have a bug remaining | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | concerning display resources in the calendar weekly view | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | we have to push everything on thursday, right? | 17:03 |
| th1a | Thursday, right yvl? | 17:04 |
| yvl | yes, please | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | cool, then i think i'm on time | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | th1a, that's it i guess | 17:05 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:05 |
| th1a | aelkner? | 17:05 |
| th1a | I think you've got a bigger pile of bugs. | 17:05 |
| aelkner | i looked them over and mostly they are jelkner requests | 17:06 |
| aelkner | some are smaller than others, so i would want to do them this week to get them into the release | 17:06 |
| aelkner | some i could deliver to jelkner even after the release | 17:07 |
| aelkner | like the gradebook pdf | 17:07 |
| th1a | jelkner isn't the only one who needs most of them. | 17:07 |
| aelkner | i know, but for things like the gradebook pdf | 17:08 |
| th1a | How many high priorities do you have? | 17:08 |
| aelkner | i have 12, two of which have to do with the ckeditor | 17:09 |
| aelkner | i don't think i would know what to do about those two | 17:10 |
| aelkner | i was going to ask you if we could reassign them to yvl, but i'm sure he wouldn't have the time until thursday | 17:10 |
| aelkner | i looked into the journal changes i made, and they are in trunk save for one really small one | 17:11 |
| aelkner | the one where i removed the Timetables link from the section context | 17:11 |
| aelkner | it being redundant with Schedule | 17:11 |
| th1a | Well, in particular you need to check into why the don't work at SLA, because in theory they should work in general with Safari. | 17:12 |
| aelkner | i can resubmit that one in a new branch | 17:12 |
| th1a | Ah. | 17:12 |
| th1a | yvl: Do you want to keep the timetables link? | 17:13 |
| aelkner | yeah, i was thinking that maybe that was intentionally not merged | 17:13 |
| yvl | hmm, aelkner, which branch? | 17:13 |
| yvl | I thought everything should be merged by now | 17:14 |
| aelkner | lp:~aelkner/schooltool.lyceum.journal/december_fixes | 17:14 |
| aelkner | just the last commit | 17:14 |
| aelkner | 178. removed Timetables link from section ... | 17:15 |
| aelkner | i noticed in trunk there was a commit that said | 17:15 |
| aelkner | preparing for removal of timetables link from section context | 17:15 |
| yvl | ass, it should be merged | 17:16 |
| yvl | odfd | 17:16 |
| yvl | odd | 17:16 |
| yvl | sorry | 17:16 |
| yvl | jeez | 17:16 |
| yvl | you can mistype badly some times | 17:16 |
| aelkner | :) | 17:16 |
| yvl | please read: odd, it should be merged | 17:16 |
| replaceafill | :D | 17:17 |
| * th1a goes to consult his Freud library. | 17:18 | |
| Lumiere | I want to know where odd -> ass ;) | 17:19 |
| yvl | aelkner, please look at the diff in http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~aelkner/schooltool.lyceum.journal/december_fixes/revision/178 | 17:19 |
| yvl | it says: remove timetables | 17:19 |
| yvl | but it only changes the tests | 17:19 |
| yvl | (and it's merged a long time ago) | 17:19 |
| yvl | oh, wait | 17:20 |
| yvl | scrap what I said | 17:20 |
| yvl | lp:~aelkner/schooltool.lyceum.journal/december_fixes does not contain removal of timetables link | 17:20 |
| yvl | and it should not | 17:20 |
| yvl | as the link is defined elsewhere; namely in ST itself | 17:21 |
| yvl | rigth, aelkner? | 17:21 |
| yvl | (see https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~aelkner/schooltool.lyceum.journal/december_fixes for the merge details ) | 17:21 |
| aelkner | ok, it's merged then | 17:22 |
| aelkner | i's say there are no outstanding merge issues | 17:22 |
| aelkner | i'd say | 17:22 |
| th1a | OK. Good. | 17:22 |
| th1a | Let me know if you have any questions about which bugs to prioritize. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | can i call you after the meeting? | 17:23 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | ok, otherwise i got a couple of intervention bugs fixed | 17:23 |
| aelkner | i didn't request the remerge via lanchpad | 17:24 |
| aelkner | ok, now i did | 17:24 |
| th1a | aelkner: It is a little awkward to check, but basically you want to do the high and medium bugs which are pegged to an upcoming milestone. | 17:27 |
| aelkner | i'll look them over for that before i call | 17:28 |
| th1a | Well, I should go through these and check. | 17:28 |
| th1a | In conclusion... | 17:30 |
| th1a | I have the final proposals for the grant but haven't started looking at them. | 17:30 |
| th1a | The only new one is from India. | 17:30 |
| th1a | Also, should I be expecting anything else from El Salvador? | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | th1a, yes | 17:31 |
| replaceafill | jelkner and I are meeting today to discuss that i think | 17:31 |
| th1a | OK... make it quick! | 17:31 |
| th1a | I'm afraid I'm going to have to finally start making Gantt charts to manage this next phase, with multiple clients, overlapping requirements and three developers. | 17:32 |
| th1a | So get ready for that... | 17:32 |
| yvl | :D | 17:32 |
| th1a | Also... MARCH INVOICES. | 17:33 |
| yvl | I'm not afraid of no chart | 17:33 |
| th1a | We've got taxes to pay in the US... | 17:33 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:33 | |
| yvl | aelkner, regarding SLA... | 17:33 |
| th1a | Have a great week gentlemen! | 17:33 |
| aelkner | thanks, you too | 17:33 |
| yvl | thanks, th1a | 17:33 |
| th1a | aelkner, give me a few minutes to review your bugs. | 17:34 |
| yvl | I've no idea how precisely the sla instance is configured there | 17:34 |
| yvl | I check out the branch, and... it's setup.py is old | 17:34 |
| yvl | no traces of bootstrap.py, buildout.cfg, etc. | 17:34 |
| Lumiere | th1a: tomsplanner.com | 17:34 |
| aelkner | i run out of schooltool, not sla | 17:34 |
| aelkner | i use a sandbox for them so that i can get them changes quickly | 17:35 |
| aelkner | like we do with jelkner's instance | 17:35 |
| Lumiere | th1a: easist gantt charting software I've found | 17:35 |
| th1a | Thanks Lumiere. I'm going to try the GNOME Planner first. | 17:37 |
| aelkner | yvl: btw, adding ../sla to develop= fixed the problem finding the sla package | 17:38 |
| aelkner | but i got another error that may be due to a server being down | 17:39 |
| aelkner | Error: Download error for http://deron.meranda.us/python/demjson/dist/demjson-1.4.tar.gz: (110, 'Connection timed out') | 17:39 |
| replaceafill | :| | 17:39 |
| yvl | I'm getting the same one here too | 17:40 |
| th1a | aelkner: Is this invalid -- https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool.gradebook/+bug/509902 | 17:40 |
| th1a | i.e., not a bug? | 17:40 |
| aelkner | not sure, i would need to check with jelkner | 17:41 |
| aelkner | i don't know if he tried what you recommended in your last comment | 17:41 |
| aelkner | second to last comment | 17:41 |
| aelkner | well, the one about the preferences | 17:42 |
| th1a | Poof! | 17:42 |
| aelkner | meaning that you're deleing it? | 17:42 |
| th1a | It is "won't fix" for now. | 17:44 |
| th1a | Unless that gets your brother's attention and he answers my question. | 17:45 |
| aelkner | :) | 17:45 |
| th1a | aelkner, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool-project/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=aelkner&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subsc | 17:47 |
| th1a | riber=&field.milestone%3Alist=22930&field.milestone%3Alist=26385&field.milestone%3Alist=25401&field.milestone%3Alist=24905&field.milestone%3Alist=26499&field.milestone%3Alist=24769&field.milestone%3Alist=12555&field.tag=&field.tags_combinator=ANY&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=& | 17:47 |
| th1a | field.has_no_branches=on&search=Search | 17:47 |
| th1a | Er... | 17:47 |
| th1a | http://bit.ly/c2MGwt | 17:48 |
| aelkner | so that's the list of bugs that are pegged to the upcoming release? | 17:48 |
| th1a | Should be. | 17:49 |
| th1a | It is mostly reports and easy things. | 17:49 |
| aelkner | i'll save that link and work off of that | 17:50 |
| aelkner | yvl: do you know what i should do with the sla build error? | 17:55 |
| replaceafill | Maverick Meerkat :S | 17:57 |
| * Lumiere thinks launchpad needs a "copy this url" link that gives you a bugs.launchpad.net/search/+48818371 to copy/paste | 17:58 | |
| th1a | Lumiere: File a bug for that! | 17:59 |
| Lumiere | lol | 18:06 |
| Lumiere | you mean a blueprint? | 18:06 |
| Lumiere | or a wishlist bug? :) | 18:06 |
| aelkner | yvl? | 18:08 |
| th1a | Lumiere: Wishlist. | 18:20 |
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| yvl | aelkner, a moment | 18:55 |
| yvl | it's a holiday here, you know ;) | 18:55 |
| aelkner | i understand, sorry, it's just a pressing matter at sla | 18:56 |
| aelkner | when you have a chance | 18:56 |
| yvl | I understand | 19:01 |
| yvl | the server where demjson is hosted is down | 19:02 |
| aelkner | i figured as much | 19:06 |
| aelkner | i suppose if they don't get their act together i could work around it by removing the dependency | 19:09 |
| aelkner | from setup.py for just today and use the egg that already sits on their machine | 19:09 |
| aelkner | yvl: sound like a good idea? | 19:09 |
| yvl | hmmm.... | 19:10 |
| th1a | Shouldn't we have cached versions of the egg lying around? | 19:13 |
| aelkner | in the case of my machine, i haven't set up my .buildout directory yet | 19:14 |
| aelkner | it was working with local eggs, so i ust didn't bother | 19:14 |
| aelkner | just | 19:14 |
| aelkner | as for sla's machine, i'll have to check | 19:14 |
| aelkner | no, it uses local eggs | 19:15 |
| aelkner | which makes sense since i install as my own user and it wouldn't make sense to use my .buildout there | 19:16 |
| aelkner | btw, the code that uses denjson is definitely not used | 19:17 |
| aelkner | it's kind of orphaned from a development thread that never came to fruition | 19:17 |
| yvl | ok, option 1 | 19:17 |
| yvl | get demjson from http://ftp.schooltool.org/schooltool/releases/nightly/ | 19:18 |
| aelkner | that being automatic data updates between schooltool and moddle | 19:18 |
| yvl | extract to your source dir | 19:18 |
| yvl | put path to extracted demjson into your develop = | 19:18 |
| aelkner | how do i get demjson from http://ftp.schooltool.org/schooltool/releases/nightly/? | 19:20 |
| aelkner | i'm not sure what you mean by that | 19:20 |
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| yvl | I put that there | 19:21 |
| yvl | download with your browsers | 19:21 |
| yvl | *browser | 19:21 |
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| yvl | http://ftp.schooltool.org/schooltool/releases/nightly/demjson-1.4.tar.gz | 19:22 |
| aelkner | it builds now, so thanks | 19:29 |
| yvl | welcome | 19:29 |
| yvl | by the way, if you need to remove dependency on json, check the whole schooltool.propagation | 19:30 |
| yvl | I think the whole thing could be knocked out | 19:30 |
| aelkner | i agree | 19:33 |
| aelkner | it was an experiment that won't be needed when we use xmlrpc to communicate with moodle | 19:34 |
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| replaceafill | aelkner, u there? | 22:08 |
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| aelkner | replaceafill: just got out of the shower | 23:03 |
| replaceafill | :| | 23:03 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, i just wanted to ask you about the version of schooltool.cas you were using | 23:03 |
| replaceafill | but you should check menesis responses | 23:03 |
| aelkner | cool, we have the fix | 23:05 |
| aelkner | i'll load that tonight for them | 23:05 |
| aelkner | replaceafill: thanks | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | aelkner, be aware though | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | i remember i changed a line in the authenticator | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | while i was working in xmlrpc | 23:05 |
| replaceafill | you should check the diff before | 23:06 |
| aelkner | will do | 23:06 |
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