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| th1a | good morning yvl, menesis, aelkner, replaceafill, Lumiere. | 16:30 |
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| aelkner | good morning and Happy New Year | 16:31 |
| yvl | morning th1a | 16:31 |
| yvl | happy New Year to all! | 16:31 |
| replaceafill | good morning | 16:31 |
| th1a | Happy New Year! | 16:31 |
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| th1a | So... first off, sorry about the awkward situation here re:Mark. | 16:34 |
| menesis | hello | 16:34 |
| yvl | no problems, th1a | 16:35 |
| th1a | I'm sure everything will be straightened out once he's back from vacation. | 16:35 |
| th1a | So right now I'm trying to get menesis's new PPA to work. | 16:36 |
| th1a | I have a new Karmic install after wiping my laptop. | 16:36 |
| th1a | And it just doesn't seem to be seeing the new repository. | 16:37 |
| th1a | Hm... | 16:37 |
| menesis | "the new repository" is only for testing, I will move things over to the main ppa soon | 16:38 |
| th1a | Well, testing in the sense that it should work now? | 16:39 |
| th1a | Oh.. IN ADDITION TO the current one. | 16:39 |
| th1a | Right? | 16:39 |
| yvl | menesis? | 16:41 |
| menesis | th1a: yes, in addition | 16:42 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:42 |
| menesis | many packages need not be updated or were compatible | 16:42 |
| th1a | Installing now. | 16:42 |
| th1a | RIght. | 16:42 |
| th1a | I just didn't read carefully enough. | 16:42 |
| th1a | OK... priorities... | 16:43 |
| th1a | yvl: What's on your list? | 16:44 |
| * th1a is trying to re-load SchoolTool into his brain. | 16:44 | |
| yvl | I'm twiddling with translations | 16:44 |
| yvl | I'd like to modify how Makefiles compile translations a bit | 16:45 |
| yvl | added sorting to extraction of translation strings | 16:45 |
| yvl | as diffs are to messed up to read | 16:45 |
| yvl | I'm looking to move translation .po/.pot files few folders up | 16:46 |
| yvl | stuff like that | 16:46 |
| yvl | add minimalistic automated testing | 16:46 |
| yvl | for translation strings | 16:46 |
| yvl | then improve tests in securitypolicy | 16:47 |
| yvl | also, play with Sphinx: | 16:47 |
| yvl | I'd like to start slowly building developers handbook | 16:47 |
| yvl | that would describe how to develop schooltool, explain certain modules, etc. | 16:48 |
| th1a | Hm... can we get the other module permissions listed in our readout of that? | 16:48 |
| th1a | Our security page? | 16:48 |
| yvl | yes | 16:48 |
| yvl | but someone needs to write descriptions | 16:48 |
| yvl | and they are a bit tricky to do | 16:48 |
| yvl | thats why I want to start documenting ST | 16:49 |
| th1a | Is there something I should be doing to help? | 16:49 |
| yvl | I can do the descriptions; but that's not enough | 16:49 |
| yvl | no, th1a, it's just code documentation | 16:49 |
| th1a | We should get that done quickly enough that we have time to review and adjust the permissions after I can get a good look at them. | 16:50 |
| yvl | agreed | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:50 |
| yvl | but I'd like someone else to do the descriptions | 16:50 |
| th1a | Oh, you mean aelkner, because they're his modules? | 16:51 |
| yvl | just to test if the documentation is clear enough for at least two people in the world | 16:51 |
| yvl | yes :) | 16:51 |
| yvl | I would be grateful | 16:51 |
| aelkner | what do i need to do exactly? | 16:51 |
| th1a | before we get into the particulars... | 16:51 |
| th1a | What's on your plate, aelkner? | 16:52 |
| aelkner | i still have a few gradebook bugs, most of which are small in scope | 16:52 |
| aelkner | i also have one quick schooltool navigation bug | 16:52 |
| th1a | So a few days' work on medium bugs? | 16:53 |
| aelkner | also a couple that i'm not sure about, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/489231 | 16:53 |
| aelkner | but i'd about a week's worth | 16:54 |
| yvl | can export/import bugs wait for few weeks? | 16:55 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 16:55 |
| replaceafill | i could help with the export bug | 16:55 |
| th1a | We just want that for the next release, I'd say (major release). | 16:55 |
| aelkner | so that's it for me | 16:55 |
| th1a | OK, so perhpas yvl should explain the security descriptions thing and aelkner could work on that. | 16:56 |
| yvl | I want to rewrite our exporters/importers a bit | 16:56 |
| yvl | umm, the thing about security descriptions is that they might be tricky to get right | 16:57 |
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| yvl | and I'm going to document several more interesting cases + general usage | 16:57 |
| aelkner | so i should wait for that, right? | 16:57 |
| yvl | If Alan could wait for it... | 16:57 |
| aelkner | :) | 16:57 |
| aelkner | i have other things to do | 16:58 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:58 |
| aelkner | just send me an email when you have something for me | 16:58 |
| yvl | yes, as you would also check if the documentation is clear enough | 16:58 |
| yvl | sure | 16:58 |
| yvl | ETA ~ Wed | 16:58 |
| aelkner | ok | 16:58 |
| th1a | Sounds good. | 16:59 |
| th1a | I think there is one major feature I'm going to have aelkner work on for the next release. | 16:59 |
| th1a | Basically, states for persons (students). | 17:00 |
| th1a | pre-enrollment, enrolled, post-enrollment, "deleted." | 17:00 |
| yvl | umm, post-enrollment? | 17:00 |
| th1a | Well, maybe a different name. | 17:01 |
| th1a | Graduated. | 17:01 |
| aelkner | yeah, when they leave school their records still need to be kept | 17:01 |
| yvl | and pre-enrolled would be...? | 17:01 |
| th1a | Within each allow the school to customize some states. | 17:01 |
| th1a | So you'd have in post-enrolled, "graduated," "withdrawn," "died," etc. | 17:02 |
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| th1a | "transferred.." | 17:02 |
| aelkner | it will be tricky to have views react to user-created states though | 17:02 |
| th1a | In particular in private schools you might have a number of pre-enrolled states. | 17:02 |
| th1a | Application pending, application accepted. | 17:03 |
| yvl | ah, I see | 17:03 |
| th1a | aelkner, not that tricky. | 17:03 |
| aelkner | well, if the state is only to be displayed, then no | 17:03 |
| yvl | it's something like a very custom demographics field | 17:04 |
| yvl | (Name, Type) | 17:04 |
| yvl | ("died", "post-enrollment") | 17:04 |
| yvl | ("application pending", "pre-enrollment") | 17:04 |
| yvl | views reacting to the "type" | 17:04 |
| yvl | users selecting the name | 17:04 |
| yvl | admins customizing the list | 17:04 |
| yvl | right? | 17:05 |
| th1a | I think so. | 17:05 |
| aelkner | i see | 17:05 |
| th1a | I'll probably get aelkner up here as soon as we know we still have a paying project to hash out the details. | 17:06 |
| aelkner | and yvl, too, right? | 17:06 |
| th1a | Well, there probably won't be time. | 17:06 |
| th1a | It isn't really that complicated. | 17:06 |
| aelkner | and the sprint we discussed? | 17:06 |
| th1a | We'll get yvl over as soon as we can, but that'll take a little longer than getting you on a Southwest flight up here. | 17:07 |
| aelkner | so my next visit won't be the sprint this month as we had thought | 17:08 |
| th1a | menesis: So I should suggest our friends in Cambodia should try the packages in your new repo? | 17:08 |
| th1a | aelkner: We'll probably want an intermediate visit. | 17:08 |
| menesis | th1a: no, that doesn't make sense | 17:08 |
| menesis | I have made feature releases to the main PPA | 17:09 |
| th1a | Which has the new translations? | 17:09 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:09 |
| menesis | that includes everything | 17:09 |
| menesis | bugfixes, translations | 17:09 |
| th1a | So they'll see those if they update? | 17:09 |
| menesis | yes | 17:09 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 17:09 |
| menesis | I have been uploading to the testing PPA only for the port to newer Zope | 17:10 |
| th1a | OK. Right. | 17:10 |
| th1a | I'm just being dense. | 17:10 |
| menesis | because that involves many incompatible packages | 17:10 |
| th1a | Sure. | 17:11 |
| menesis | I will be moving everything to the main PPA when I'm sure there are no regressions or missing dependencies | 17:11 |
| menesis | and a new release | 17:11 |
| menesis | with no features, only the porting work | 17:11 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:11 |
| th1a | Oh, btw, shouldn't we have a 1.3? ;-) | 17:12 |
| th1a | OK... anything else? | 17:15 |
| menesis | this next release will be called 1.3.0, yes | 17:16 |
| th1a | Oh, so we aren't doing the linux thing? I thought 1.3 was unstable. | 17:17 |
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| th1a | Anyhow... I'll let you guys go. | 17:19 |
| th1a | And I'll let you know when I hear from Mark. | 17:20 |
| th1a | Have a great week! | 17:20 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:20 | |
| menesis | th1a: ok it might be unstable | 17:20 |
| th1a | ;-) | 17:20 |
| menesis | I have switched to a new zope packages set | 17:20 |
| menesis | to not break existing branches I have started a new development series | 17:21 |
| menesis | a new stable release will be for lucid | 17:21 |
| menesis | what a better time so start it that now | 17:21 |
| th1a | I understand what you're doing. I just thought the new development series would be 1.3. | 17:22 |
| th1a | SchoolTool has never maintained a rational numbering sequence, so I'm not losing any sleep over it. | 17:22 |
| menesis | that is what happened | 17:31 |
| menesis | it is the new development series, and it is named 1.3 | 17:32 |
| yvl | it just so happend that it will get released to Karmic | 17:33 |
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| menesis | but 1.2 was incompatible with Karmic and was not released anywhere else | 17:36 |
| menesis | If you want I can create a 1.2 branch and release it for older versions of Ubuntu | 17:37 |
| menesis | otherwise 1.2 is a dead end. it got new features in the Christmas release anyway. | 17:41 |
| menesis | the only stable branch is 1.0 for Ubuntu <= 9.04 | 17:41 |
| menesis | I have made a schooltool 1.0.4 release with all fixes backported, btw | 17:42 |
| th1a | OK... I'll stop bugging you. | 17:49 |
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| onehomelist | i have forgot my schooltool admin password. How can I recover it? | 18:34 |
| th1a | ignas, yvl: Can you help onehomelist? | 18:38 |
| onehomelist | In what way? | 18:40 |
| th1a | Tell you what to do. ;-) | 18:40 |
| th1a | I think I can figure it out. | 18:40 |
| th1a | ...maybe not. | 18:41 |
| onehomelist | Yes, tell me what should I do? | 18:41 |
| th1a | Well, I don't remember... | 18:42 |
| th1a | I think we have some way to override it locally... | 18:42 |
| onehomelist | How? | 18:45 |
| th1a | I'll have to find out for you. | 18:46 |
| th1a | https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/schooltool/+question/96173 | 18:48 |
| th1a | You can subscribe to that question ^^ | 18:48 |
| onehomelist | If it is too difficult, how do i completely uninstall school tool, so that i can do a fresh re-install? | 18:51 |
| th1a | You can just delete the database. | 18:52 |
| th1a | sudo rm /var/lib/schooltool/schooltool-2009-Data.fs* | 18:53 |
| th1a | That will, of course, delete all the data. | 18:53 |
| th1a | So don't do it unless you want to DELETE ALL YOUR DATA. | 18:53 |
| th1a | Then just restart. | 18:53 |
| th1a | (schooltool) | 18:53 |
| th1a | sudo /etc/init.d/schooltool-2009 restart | 18:54 |
| onehomelist | Thanks, that was a great help. | 18:59 |
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| mgedmin | a long time ago schooltool-server.py had a command-line option for changing the admin password... | 20:12 |
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| ignas | th1a, you can't reset your password iirc, we had that available using the command line, but now - we don't have it anymore | 21:31 |
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| fsufitch | aelkner, ping | 21:37 |
| fsufitch | yvl, ping | 21:49 |
| ignas | it's 10pm here | 21:51 |
| ignas | doubt you'll find yvl | 21:51 |
| fsufitch | hm | 21:56 |
| fsufitch | ok | 21:56 |
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| th1a | ignas: fsufitch is Ushra'Khan now. | 22:31 |
| ignas | !? | 22:43 |
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| aelkner | fsufitch: ayt? | 22:50 |
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