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| ryanpg | I'm unable to install schooltool using the ppa | 20:53 |
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| ryanpg | schooltool-2009 depends: python-schooltool but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-schooltool.stapp2008fall but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages | 20:54 |
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| ryanpg | attempting to install python-schooltool produces a very long list of unmet dependencies | 20:58 |
| ryanpg | my theory is the ppa does not have current builds for the PPC architecture - thoughts, suggestions? | 20:59 |
| th1a | ryanpg: Ah, you're on PPC? | 21:01 |
| th1a | Yes, that's the problem. | 21:01 |
| th1a | Is that even supported by Ubuntu anymore? | 21:01 |
| th1a | ryanpg: You can do a source install, but probably you wouldn't want to run it in production with a whole school depending on it. | 21:05 |
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| ryanpg | th1a, not the answer I wanted | 21:18 |
| ryanpg | :) | 21:18 |
| th1a | Are you on an old Mac? | 21:18 |
| ryanpg | I'll do a source install though, I've built plenty already | 21:18 |
| ryanpg | yeah, an old plastic grey tower | 21:19 |
| th1a | Do you literally want to run a school on that box? | 21:19 |
| th1a | Or are you just experimenting? | 21:19 |
| ryanpg | a school of 35 students and 20 staff, yes :) | 21:19 |
| th1a | What kind of school? | 21:19 |
| ryanpg | therapeutic day | 21:20 |
| th1a | Where are you? | 21:20 |
| ryanpg | Illinois USA | 21:20 |
| th1a | I'm in Providence. | 21:20 |
| ryanpg | Ah, East Coast | 21:21 |
| ryanpg | are you a school IT person? | 21:21 |
| th1a | I was a teacher & tech coordinator. | 21:21 |
| ryanpg | I was a teacher too, but currently just tech coordinator | 21:21 |
| ryanpg | I'm really missing teaching though | 21:21 |
| ryanpg | grrr... "unable to find a source package for schooltool-2009" | 21:22 |
| th1a | Sorry... | 21:23 |
| th1a | I didn't mean *that* source package. | 21:23 |
| th1a | Just a sec... | 21:23 |
| ryanpg | th1a, I just wanted to get build-dep so I could pull from the repo | 21:24 |
| ryanpg | it's missing from the ppa for karmic, but not for jaunty - guess I | 21:24 |
| ryanpg | 'll just pull jaunty build-deps | 21:25 |
| th1a | Or try this: http://book.schooltool.org/htmlhelp/dev_sandbox.html | 21:25 |
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| ryanpg | oh crud, schooltool doesn't use autotools? | 21:28 |
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| th1a | No. | 21:30 |
| th1a | We use the Zope/Python build chain. | 21:30 |
| ryanpg | oh my, hehe complicated | 21:30 |
| th1a | That's what I was saying about probably not wanting to base a production install on it. | 21:31 |
| th1a | Actually, you can skip some of those instructions... | 21:31 |
| th1a | You can skip this: Set your buildout eggs and cache directories | 21:32 |
| th1a | And then most of that is about doing development, not just running the server. | 21:32 |
| ryanpg | ok, thanks | 21:34 |
| th1a | Let us know if it works. | 21:35 |
| ryanpg | will do, what branches do I *need* to checkout? | 21:36 |
| th1a | Well, it will run without the gradebook and journal. | 21:37 |
| th1a | But you won't have a gradebook or attendance. | 21:37 |
| ryanpg | ok, currently - bzr branch lp:schooltool | 21:38 |
| ryanpg | does nothing | 21:38 |
| ryanpg | what's the full url for the bzr repo? | 21:38 |
| th1a | bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/schooltool/trunk/ | 21:39 |
| ryanpg | thanks | 21:39 |
| th1a | Does that work? | 21:39 |
| ryanpg | let's see | 21:39 |
| th1a | That pause earlier was me switching the documentation to the shortened URL for you "convenience." | 21:40 |
| ryanpg | haha well thanks! | 21:40 |
| ryanpg | doesn't work | 21:41 |
| th1a | I'll try here... | 21:41 |
| th1a | bzr branch lp:schooltool works for me. | 21:42 |
| th1a | Does anything happen for you? | 21:42 |
| th1a | Do you get a prompt back or do you have to crtl-c? | 21:42 |
| ryanpg | not that I can see... just sits there for a long time, no prompt, I ctrl-c to kill it | 21:43 |
| th1a | can you ping bazaar.launchpad.net? | 21:43 |
| th1a | I assume you have bzr installed? | 21:43 |
| ryanpg | yep | 21:43 |
| ryanpg | yep | 21:43 |
| ryanpg | :)\ | 21:43 |
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| th1a | How long did you give it? | 21:44 |
| ryanpg | just started again now | 21:44 |
| ryanpg | I'll wait more patiently this time | 21:44 |
| th1a | From time to time there do seem to be latency/connection problems with these bzr connections to Launchpad. | 21:44 |
| th1a | It is probably just that. | 21:45 |
| ryanpg | bzr branch lp:schooltool is running | 21:45 |
| th1a | good | 21:45 |
| ryanpg | well, I mean I don't have a prompt yet anyway | 21:45 |
| th1a | You should get some feedback if it is working. | 21:45 |
| ryanpg | nothing yet | 21:45 |
| ryanpg | no source tarball around then? | 21:46 |
| th1a | Ah... well, Zope 3 is lots of little packages. | 21:47 |
| ryanpg | yeah, I don't think it's working :) | 21:47 |
| th1a | So we have many, many little dependencies. | 21:47 |
| ryanpg | sigh... well, I guess I'll just let it sit for a while | 21:48 |
| th1a | Hm... I wonder what the problem is. | 21:48 |
| th1a | If you have an x86 box, that'd be a lot easier. ;-) | 21:49 |
| ryanpg | yeah it would | 21:49 |
| ryanpg | :P | 21:49 |
| ryanpg | well, I'm going to give up for today (again) and try next Monday | 21:50 |
| ryanpg | gotta go try to convince staff to check re-check and triple-check that they are sending email to the people they MEAN to send it to! | 21:51 |
| ryanpg | :D | 21:51 |
| ryanpg | putting on my 'serious mean guy' demeanor | 21:51 |
| ryanpg | thanks for the help th1a | 21:51 |
| th1a | ryanpg: Thank you! | 21:53 |
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| menesis | ryanpg: schooltool does not work on karmic yet | 22:37 |
| menesis | you can install from jaunty ppa, but server won't start | 22:39 |
| menesis | because karmic universe has some zope packages that are too new for current schooltool | 22:40 |
| th1a | menesis: So it might work on jaunty PPC architecture? | 22:41 |
| th1a | Does that even exist? | 22:41 |
| ryanpg | menesis, yeah I just discovered it will install on x86 karmic but the server does not start - as you said | 22:46 |
| menesis | should work on PPC, it is just not available from PPA | 22:46 |
| menesis | I think | 22:46 |
| menesis | but you can rebuild, source packages are in the PPA | 22:47 |
| th1a | For Karmic. | 22:49 |
| menesis | for jaunty | 22:53 |
| menesis | nothing is available for karmic yet | 22:53 |
| th1a | Jaunty. | 22:54 |
| th1a | You know, I get these damn names confused. | 22:54 |
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