| ignas_ | schooltool-2009.04.11 :D nice number for an "official" release | 00:17 |
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| ignas_ | emm, ok, sorry but schooltool release will be a bit later | 00:23 |
| ignas_ | Queued: 2 minutes ago | 00:23 |
| ignas_ | Estimated build start: in 9 hours | 00:23 |
| ignas_ | good night | 00:39 |
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| th1a | Hi ignas. | 16:46 |
| ignas | th1a: hi | 16:47 |
| ignas | th1a: anythings broken? | 16:47 |
| ignas | except my English ;) | 16:47 |
| th1a | I've been writing documentation. | 16:47 |
| th1a | So is this the recommended way of upgrading: | 16:48 |
| th1a | Or. | 16:48 |
| th1a | If I am not upgrading, I just install schooltool-2009. | 16:48 |
| th1a | If I am upgrading, I install schooltool-2009, which stops my schooltool-2008? | 16:49 |
| th1a | Or do I switch them manually? | 16:49 |
| ignas | switch them manually | 16:50 |
| ignas | schooltool-2009 does not conflict with schooltool-2008 | 16:50 |
| ignas | so if you want to upgrade | 16:50 |
| ignas | (no need really, configuration is identical at the moment) | 16:50 |
| ignas | what you do is - remove schooltool-2008, install schooltool-2009 | 16:50 |
| ignas | stop schooltool-2009 if it was started | 16:50 |
| ignas | copy /.../schooltool-2008-Data.fs to schooltool-2009-Data.fs | 16:51 |
| ignas | start the server | 16:51 |
| th1a | At this point they are the same, but going forward we won't be backporting non-security changes to 2008. | 16:51 |
| th1a | Do you need to remove 2008? | 16:51 |
| th1a | (I didn't) | 16:52 |
| ignas | we will | 16:52 |
| ignas | configuration - different (ok, the same at the moment) | 16:52 |
| ignas | python code - the same | 16:52 |
| ignas | python-schooltool is the package that has the code | 16:53 |
| ignas | and it is not "yeared" ;) | 16:53 |
| ignas | in the future menesis might just go with "schooltool-server" | 16:53 |
| ignas | or something like that | 16:53 |
| ignas | well - you can remove it because it's on the same port | 16:54 |
| ignas | so if you have it "auto starting" | 16:54 |
| ignas | they might conflict | 16:54 |
| ignas | silently in their logs | 16:54 |
| ignas | i am just giving foolproof instructions, the ones that will always work | 16:54 |
| ignas | just stopping and removing schooltool-2008 from /etc/rc.d/ or wherever it is (ask Lumiere) is enough though | 16:55 |
| ignas | or you can edit the ports and have schooltool-2007 schooltool-2008 and schooltool-2009 running at the same time | 16:55 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:56 |
| th1a | Do we have release notes? | 16:56 |
| ignas | not yet, sorry | 16:56 |
| ignas | will have to look at bzr revision log | 16:56 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:56 |
| ignas | mostly - XLS import/export and Customizable Demographics are the features that were intentionally added | 16:57 |
| th1a | yvl: We're going to have to pay more attention to release notes as we have more users running production instances. | 16:57 |
| ignas | and improvements to schooltool.gradebook, but Alan knows a lot more about those | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | ignas: part of removing 2008 should be removing the rc info | 16:58 |
| th1a | We just need to start managing the notes like a real software project. ;-) | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | th1a: which means getting a foundation behind it? | 16:58 |
| th1a | Hm? | 16:58 |
| ignas | Lumiere: yes, but I am talking about "remove schooltool-2008 from startup without removing schooltool-2008" | 16:58 |
| ignas | usecase | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | ah | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | then just remove it from rc2.d | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | or rename it from S??schooltool-2008-server to K?? | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | rc?.d is the runlevel startup directories | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | which are symlinks to init.d | 17:00 |
| ignas | Lumiere: that should be in the book ;) | 17:01 |
| * Lumiere points at th1a | 17:02 | |
| th1a | That's why I asked. | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | I still need to get working on the book | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | this next few weeks is bad for me | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | I have to run online testing | 17:03 |
| ignas | well - hopefully our growing comunity will start picking up some things | 17:04 |
| ignas | the new Romanian guy knows what rewrite rules are, so he might help us some... | 17:04 |
| th1a | I got rolling with selenium test cases for the tutorial in the book. | 17:04 |
| th1a | Makes it easy to re-do the screenshots when the UI changes. | 17:05 |
| th1a | Or perhaps in a different language. | 17:05 |
| ignas | nice | 17:05 |
| th1a | Got that trick from Douglas. | 17:08 |
| ignas | yeah, Douglas is a find of the year :) | 17:09 |
| th1a | Indeed. | 17:09 |
| th1a | Almost makes up for you leaving. ;-) | 17:10 |
| th1a | So... your parting gift has been delayed, for reasons you'll eventually find amusing. | 17:10 |
| ignas | :D | 17:11 |
| Lumiere | uh oh | 17:15 |
| ignas | th1a: you need all the bugfixes enumerated? | 17:22 |
| th1a | Well... that's the way these things are supposed to be done, isn't it? | 17:25 |
| ignas | ok | 17:25 |
| ignas | (I closed 70 bugs as fix released in launchpad) | 17:25 |
| ignas | so it will take me a bit ;) | 17:26 |
| ignas | i love Alan, th1a do you want pears like "Made delete button RED to make tom happy" in the Changelog? :) | 17:31 |
| th1a | You could edit that down a bit. | 17:31 |
| Lumiere | ignas: lets make that "Made delete buttons look alike" | 17:34 |
| Lumiere | :) | 17:34 |
| ignas | ok, it's not alan | 17:36 |
| ignas | it's Filip Sufitchi | 17:36 |
| th1a | Ah. That's good. | 17:45 |
| Lumiere | lol that's Filip for you | 17:45 |
| Lumiere | alan's would have been "made delete buttons red because tom asked me to" | 17:45 |
| Lumiere | or something | 17:45 |
| mgedmin | roses are red | 17:46 |
| mgedmin | and so are delete buttons | 17:46 |
| * mgedmin too tired to make it rhyme | 17:46 | |
| Lumiere | mgedmin: roses are red, trees are green, delete buttons bleed and add buttons are freed? *runs from bad poetry* | 17:47 |
| * Lumiere is not up to making it totally rhyme... | 17:47 | |
| th1a | aelkner is not interested in making me happy. | 17:50 |
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| Lumiere | lol | 18:09 |
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| ignas | th1a: sent | 18:47 |
| ignas | th1a: should contain everything | 18:47 |
| th1a | ignas: Thanks! | 19:12 |
| th1a | So you're back in Kraftwerk. | 19:12 |
| ignas | yeah, at last I have a home that is not in the middle of crossroads | 19:13 |
| ignas | seen my failmail? | 19:13 |
| th1a | failmail? | 19:14 |
| ignas | it's like a killmail but has FAIL! written all over it | 19:16 |
| th1a | Where would I have seen it? | 19:16 |
| th1a | Also, where is aelkner's report card work? | 19:16 |
| th1a | In the changelog? | 19:17 |
| ignas | ahh | 19:17 |
| ignas | did not do schooltool.gradebook | 19:17 |
| ignas | as I have no understanding about what and why has changed there | 19:18 |
| ignas | Alan knows the state of the code way better than I do | 19:18 |
| th1a | Well, where would I look to decipher the changes? | 19:18 |
| th1a | the gradebook commit log or do I have to look at aelkner's branches? | 19:19 |
| ignas | give me a second | 19:19 |
| ignas | and i'll generate it for you | 19:19 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks. | 19:19 |
| ignas | th1a: http://kw.rimcrc.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=7595 | 19:20 |
| ignas | KW killboard is open for public | 19:20 |
| th1a | Good thing we're not in Curse anymore. | 19:23 |
| th1a | Also there should be a bunch of other changes to the gradebook -- taking the score systems out of the gradebook, etc. | 19:23 |
| * th1a goes to get a loaf of bread. | 19:24 | |
| ignas | th1a: sent | 19:24 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 19:48 |
| th1a | That's the gradebook changes? | 19:49 |
| ignas | yes | 19:49 |
| th1a | Nothing in the mids in your Zealot? | 19:50 |
| ignas | the fit and the place do not make any sense whatsoever | 19:51 |
| ignas | unless you know the whole story | 19:51 |
| ignas | the short edition is - used WH to get from 0.0 to empire directly, bought a zealot, stuffed it as if it was a freighter, made a wrong turn | 19:53 |
| th1a | Heh. | 20:06 |
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