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| ignas | Lumiere: you there? | 14:08 |
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| Lumiere | ignas: back in 15 | 15:01 |
| Lumiere | back | 15:26 |
| Lumiere | ignas: ayt | 15:30 |
| ignas | Lumiere: questions for section linking from XLS | 15:30 |
| ignas | Lumiere: will having "Previous section" be good enough for you | 15:30 |
| Lumiere | yeaa | 15:30 |
| ignas | Lumiere: the field being section ID in the previous term | 15:30 |
| Lumiere | yesthat would be fine | 15:31 |
| ignas | you'll only be able to link sections in consecutive terms | 15:32 |
| ignas | and probably only in the release version, won't make it into release candidate | 15:33 |
| Lumiere | that's ok | 15:33 |
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| * th1a will be at the meeting. | 16:06 | |
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| Lumiere | 'morning all | 16:10 |
| jelkner | Lumiere: morning, mr straw | 16:17 |
| Lumiere | 'night :) | 16:21 |
| th1a | Hi ignas, yvl, menesis, aelkner, jelkner, Lumiere. | 16:30 |
| ignas | th1a: hi | 16:30 |
| aelkner | morning | 16:31 |
| yvl | hi guys | 16:31 |
| th1a | I managed to get a full night's sleep in. | 16:32 |
| jelkner | wow | 16:32 |
| jelkner | that's good | 16:33 |
| th1a | Haven't read any work-related emails though. | 16:33 |
| th1a | My general feeling at this point is that we do "release candidate 1" this Thursday and, if no issues come up, release the same code as final on the 30th. | 16:34 |
| th1a | To give me time to get all the other stuff -- new website up, press release, etc. -- together. | 16:34 |
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| th1a | Externally I don't think I have been talking about the exact release date other than "April." | 16:35 |
| th1a | Does anyone have an objection? | 16:35 |
| replaceafill | good morning | 16:35 |
| th1a | ignas: You've been planning on working until the 30th, right? | 16:36 |
| ignas | th1a: yes | 16:36 |
| ignas | th1a: ok, I will have RC1 in the evening | 16:36 |
| ignas | (my evening) | 16:36 |
| ignas | working on it at the moment | 16:36 |
| ignas | with menesis, who is sitting beside me | 16:36 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:36 |
| ignas | fixed one typo, so should have working schooltool package any moment now on my PC | 16:37 |
| ignas | will upload it as soon as I am sure it works | 16:37 |
| th1a | OK, let's do updates -- assuming I haven't read your other emails from this weekend yet. | 16:37 |
| th1a | ignas? | 16:37 |
| ignas | worked on xls export of sections | 16:37 |
| ignas | separated sections into separate worksheets per term | 16:38 |
| aelkner | ignas: can you do another merge of my gradebook branch before releasing? | 16:38 |
| ignas | also fixed the event resource bug when exporting sections without any resources assigned | 16:38 |
| ignas | aelkner: one more, changed anything since friday? | 16:38 |
| ignas | th1a: also moved gradebook tab to the left of the Manage tab | 16:38 |
| ignas | th1a: it seems aelkner put it there intentionaly ;) | 16:39 |
| ignas | (ther - to the right of active school year) | 16:39 |
| ignas | *there | 16:39 |
| th1a | Ah. | 16:39 |
| th1a | Everyone likes to think their parts are special. | 16:39 |
| ignas | also I did some merging | 16:39 |
| ignas | that's about it | 16:39 |
| aelkner | ignas: yes, i made changes this weekend | 16:40 |
| ignas | aelkner: ok, will merge it | 16:40 |
| * th1a is not completely convinced years need to be bold either. ;-) | 16:40 | |
| aelkner | ignas: thanks | 16:40 |
| ignas | th1a: they are bold | 16:41 |
| ignas | th1a: so that "next year" when you add it | 16:41 |
| ignas | th1a: could be smaller ;) | 16:41 |
| th1a | When I write a component yourself, it is going to require a <blink> tag in the menu bar. ;-) | 16:42 |
| ignas | :D | 16:42 |
| th1a | yvl? | 16:43 |
| yvl | well, I managed to get sick again | 16:43 |
| yvl | some Lemony Snicket stuff, I guess | 16:43 |
| * th1a is going to ask Aiste to add some vitamins to the POV water cooler. | 16:44 | |
| yvl | thanks ;) | 16:44 |
| yvl | commited the report header templates today | 16:44 |
| yvl | so I can manage to integrate report headers just before RC1 | 16:45 |
| yvl | currently I'm rewriting calendar pdf views (for last hour or so) | 16:45 |
| th1a | Ah, good. | 16:45 |
| yvl | so we have an example how to use RML in the codebase | 16:46 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:46 |
| yvl | next follows the gradebook | 16:46 |
| yvl | gradebook reports | 16:46 |
| th1a | Is there the equivalent of CSS for RML? | 16:46 |
| yvl | emm, not exactly | 16:46 |
| th1a | I guess you probably just write that in Python. | 16:46 |
| yvl | but there is <stylesheet> directive in RML | 16:46 |
| yvl | so you can set up at least styles for paragraphs | 16:46 |
| yvl | so, no need for Python | 16:47 |
| yvl | just that you won't get a separate stylesheet used on all RMLs | 16:47 |
| yvl | btw, I ran into a lot of quirks while writing this | 16:48 |
| th1a | yvl: That's why I wouldn't have *made* you do it. | 16:48 |
| th1a | You had to go in by your own free will. | 16:49 |
| yvl | ... but I really wanted that feature... :)))) | 16:49 |
| th1a | I agree. It is a huge win if we can make it work in the long run. | 16:49 |
| yvl | my only pity is that it's not that obvious to the users | 16:50 |
| th1a | Not yet. | 16:50 |
| th1a | Are you finding bugs in the RML implementation? | 16:50 |
| yvl | no, just small things that I need to work around | 16:50 |
| th1a | Is it actively maintained now? | 16:50 |
| th1a | Or are we inheriting it? | 16:51 |
| yvl | doesn't seem so, it stabilized a year ago or so | 16:51 |
| th1a | Did Stephan do most of the work on it? | 16:51 |
| yvl | as far as I know, yes | 16:51 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:51 |
| yvl | or at least he supervised it | 16:51 |
| yvl | and there is some newer commits with Chinese support | 16:52 |
| th1a | Oh -- Ignas... we have to update the "about" page in SchoolTool before I forget. | 16:52 |
| yvl | but I didn't look closely at it | 16:52 |
| th1a | Add menesis to the "release manager" line. | 16:52 |
| ignas | th1a: ahh, yeah | 16:52 |
| th1a | He can share the title with jinty for this release. | 16:52 |
| th1a | Also we have a couple new contributors. | 16:53 |
| menesis | :) | 16:53 |
| th1a | I don't think Douglas is on there. | 16:53 |
| ignas | th1a: just send me a patch ;) | 16:53 |
| ignas | I am prone to misspell a name, or miss the surname ;) | 16:53 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:53 |
| ignas | packages are working, uploaded to gutsy PPA, if they build, will forward port them all the way to jaunty | 16:54 |
| ignas | will merge changes by yvl, aelkner and fixes to the about page and release it again | 16:55 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:59 |
| th1a | aelkner? | 16:59 |
| aelkner | well, i got in all the features we dicussed | 17:00 |
| aelkner | kind of wondering what to do next | 17:00 |
| th1a | OK. We can come back to that. | 17:00 |
| th1a | replaceafill? | 17:00 |
| replaceafill | i worked on the gradebook xls export | 17:01 |
| replaceafill | it creates a xls worksheet per gradebook worksheet | 17:01 |
| th1a | aelkner: Actually, SLA had some issue last week, so get in touch with them about that for starters. | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | my only question was if it's ok to put the Export XLS link in the Worksheets view | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | but th1a had trouble on friday with his instance :) | 17:02 |
| th1a | What was the question again? | 17:02 |
| replaceafill | I put the "Export XLS" link in the "Worksheets" view | 17:03 |
| replaceafill | that's the view where you can see all the worksheets in the gradebook | 17:03 |
| th1a | That's fine. | 17:04 |
| th1a | I think. | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | ok, and as alkner im wondering if i could help with anything else | 17:04 |
| th1a | What's the other choice? | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | to put it on the gradebook view | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | but that could be confusing | 17:04 |
| replaceafill | cause the user could think that they are going to export only the active worksheet | 17:05 |
| replaceafill | not all the gradebook worksheets | 17:05 |
| th1a | OH. No, I would put it there. | 17:06 |
| th1a | And export all the worksheets. | 17:06 |
| th1a | Put it both places. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | ah ok, will do then | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | thats all | 17:06 |
| th1a | Getting extra worksheets is not a problem. | 17:06 |
| replaceafill | cool | 17:06 |
| * Lumiere suggests a plastic bubble existance for yvl :) | 17:07 | |
| th1a | replaceafill: Why don't you take a look at the bugs in Launchpad. There are plenty ;-) | 17:07 |
| Lumiere | (back) | 17:07 |
| th1a | And I have spent some time recently re-prioritizing them. | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | ah ok | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | will take one then | 17:07 |
| th1a | Feel free to assign a few to yourself. | 17:07 |
| replaceafill | thanks | 17:07 |
| ignas | aelkner: did you fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/303756 ? | 17:09 |
| aelkner | no, i wasn't sure how old that bug was | 17:10 |
| th1a | ignas: We're going to need some release notes. | 17:10 |
| aelkner | is it still true? | 17:10 |
| th1a | Is it assigned to you? | 17:10 |
| ignas | aelkner: don't know | 17:10 |
| ignas | Lumiere: by the way - did the section member import view work? | 17:11 |
| Lumiere | ignas: it seems to have | 17:11 |
| Lumiere | at least locally | 17:11 |
| th1a | aelkner: It is your job to check. | 17:11 |
| aelkner | fine, will do | 17:11 |
| Lumiere | I have not checked with Lee yet | 17:11 |
| Lumiere | will do from Herndon (once i have long distance access) | 17:11 |
| Lumiere | yay for schools that don't give staff Long Distance | 17:12 |
| th1a | aelkner: If you'd checked you'd see I assigned it to you less than a month ago. | 17:12 |
| th1a | I don't think it is still a bug, but you should double-check it. | 17:12 |
| ignas | replaceafill: if you would find the section member csv import view commit in the 2008.10 branch, you could fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/schooltool/+bug/316412 by adding some tests, and giving me a patch to merge into trunk... | 17:12 |
| aelkner | th1a: i'm thinking the same thing | 17:13 |
| aelkner | i'll change the status if it's no longer a bug | 17:13 |
| th1a | That's the idea. | 17:13 |
| replaceafill | ignas, thanks | 17:14 |
| ignas | th1a: there will be a lot of Fix Commited -> Fix released when I am done with packages | 17:15 |
| th1a | ignas: One would hope. | 17:16 |
| th1a | Lumiere? | 17:17 |
| Lumiere | lets see | 17:17 |
| Lumiere | ignas worked with me for a few hours on group membership import | 17:17 |
| Lumiere | and found at least 1 bug in the xls import | 17:18 |
| Lumiere | having to do with how stupid spreadsheet programs are about numbers | 17:18 |
| ignas | yeah | 17:18 |
| ignas | but I found a workaround | 17:18 |
| th1a | Too stupid or too smart? | 17:18 |
| ignas | so - oofice can mark numbers as "text" | 17:18 |
| ignas | too smart | 17:18 |
| Lumiere | th1a: too smart | 17:18 |
| ignas | but you have to know how | 17:19 |
| Lumiere | all CanDo changes up to last thursday have been merged and released to both ACC and State Pilot | 17:19 |
| th1a | Excellent. | 17:19 |
| Lumiere | thank you to replaceafill for putting up with me for 2 hours | 17:19 |
| Lumiere | while I beat on svn's merge capability | 17:19 |
| Lumiere | or lack of sanity thereof :) | 17:20 |
| th1a | Yes thanks replaceafill! | 17:21 |
| th1a | OK. Am I missing anything or anyone at this point? | 17:21 |
| Lumiere | don't think so | 17:23 |
| th1a | aelkner: Here's what I'm thinking for you - | 17:23 |
| th1a | 1) talk to SLA; | 17:23 |
| th1a | 2) look at the bugs in Launchpad and fix some; | 17:23 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:24 |
| th1a | (like I said, I sorted through them last month, so most irrelevant cruft from 2005 isn't in your way) | 17:24 |
| th1a | And you can use the advance sort to get some pretty useful views. | 17:24 |
| th1a | In fact: use the advanced sort. | 17:24 |
| th1a | search, that is, not sort. | 17:24 |
| aelkner | will do | 17:24 |
| aelkner | i knew what you meant | 17:25 |
| th1a | 3) start planning out moving SLA to school years. | 17:25 |
| th1a | With the assumption that won't be deployed this school year. | 17:25 |
| th1a | (so it is not pressing) | 17:25 |
| aelkner | you know, i already changes the code to handle school years, but then i couldn't deploy it | 17:26 |
| th1a | aelkner: Oh. | 17:26 |
| aelkner | because we had our release, and they had the narratives to write | 17:26 |
| th1a | Well, I guess that's good. | 17:27 |
| aelkner | however | 17:27 |
| aelkner | it handles school years with teh core schooltool stuff | 17:27 |
| aelkner | but the intervention objects need to be reworked | 17:27 |
| aelkner | so i could plan out what needs to be done with that | 17:27 |
| aelkner | and send you an email with the plan | 17:28 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 17:28 |
| th1a | Another thing you could think about is how to handle comments within the report sheets / report cards framework. | 17:29 |
| th1a | That would make sense for SLA, right? | 17:29 |
| aelkner | i'm not sure what you mean | 17:30 |
| th1a | Their narratives? | 17:30 |
| th1a | That should be drawn into our general report card system. | 17:30 |
| aelkner | i don't see how you mean that | 17:32 |
| aelkner | the gradebook has no provision for all the functionality the the narratives have | 17:32 |
| aelkner | it's nt even close to having anything like that | 17:32 |
| th1a | I'm telling you the gradebook *needs to* have functionality like that. | 17:33 |
| aelkner | like html editing | 17:33 |
| aelkner | perhaps you could explain your vision of how that would look | 17:33 |
| th1a | Luckily, we've done that once already. | 17:33 |
| aelkner | the data model is completely different | 17:34 |
| th1a | Basically, I think you'll have to click on a cell and then get a pop up or new page to enter the comment. | 17:34 |
| jelkner | perfect! | 17:34 |
| th1a | How different can the data model be? | 17:34 |
| aelkner | well, only completely diffetent, but besides that... | 17:35 |
| th1a | Anyhow... let me end the "formal" meeting and we'll continue discussing this. | 17:36 |
| aelkner | but if you want to add comments to the schooltool.gradebook data model, that's one thing | 17:36 |
| th1a | So I'm going to be in and out but not getting much substantial work done for the next couple days. | 17:36 |
| Lumiere | report cards need narrative pieces | 17:36 |
| jelkner | yes they do | 17:37 |
| Lumiere | the trick is limiting the length of a comment | 17:37 |
| th1a | Jennifer is coming home tomorrow and we'll have help around the house for the next two weeks. | 17:37 |
| th1a | Can we hold off on this for just a minute? | 17:37 |
| jelkner | understood | 17:37 |
| Lumiere | yea | 17:37 |
| jelkner | th1a: since tomorrow won't be good for you, can i ask a quick question now about process for moving forward? | 17:37 |
| th1a | You guys are breaking my fragile train of thought. | 17:38 |
| jelkner | i'll be rubric grading this quarter | 17:38 |
| jelkner | in fact, i've already started | 17:38 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: wait a moment | 17:38 |
| th1a | jelkner: Heel! | 17:38 |
| th1a | ... | 17:38 |
| jelkner | to late | 17:38 |
| jelkner | the cows already out of the barn | 17:38 |
| jelkner | i talked to you about this last week | 17:39 |
| jelkner | look, i've been *very* patient | 17:39 |
| jelkner | i've been waiting for 1.0 for months | 17:39 |
| th1a | Anyhow, just in terms of the next day or so I've realized that it is pretty important to try to get a presenting slot at the Gov 2.0 conference, and I have to write that proposal by tomorrow. | 17:39 |
| th1a | jelkner: wtf? | 17:39 |
| jelkner | if i don't do this 4th quarter, it will prevent me from having the practical experience i want going into our summer planning | 17:39 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: and you can't wait 5 minutes for th1a to finish his thought | 17:40 |
| jelkner | what do you mean wft? | 17:40 |
| Lumiere | before jumping in | 17:40 |
| jelkner | well, i have students coming | 17:40 |
| th1a | So anyhow, I'll be pretty absent the next couple days and then I should be able to wrap the rest of this stuff up. | 17:40 |
| jelkner | i was going to bring this up tomorrow | 17:40 |
| jelkner | but th1a just said that won't work | 17:40 |
| th1a | jelkner: I don't know if it will work. | 17:41 |
| th1a | Just chiill jelkner. | 17:41 |
| th1a | There is no problem here. | 17:41 |
| th1a | OK. Thanks for your good work everyone the past couple weeks. | 17:42 |
| th1a | We've exceeded my expectations for this release. | 17:42 |
| th1a | Have a great one! | 17:42 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:42 | |
| th1a | Now... | 17:43 |
| replaceafill | brb going to work | 17:44 |
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| th1a | OK, so aelkner, jelkner and I will have a meeting tomorrow about planning out grade scales for the gradebook. | 17:46 |
| th1a | So that'll be in your mix too aelkner. We just need an hour to spec it out. | 17:46 |
| th1a | Now -- comments. | 17:46 |
| th1a | So SLA twice a year sends home a report card of sorts which is just comments, right? | 17:47 |
| th1a | Using SchoolTool. | 17:47 |
| aelkner | not just coments | 17:47 |
| aelkner | grade (not like our gradebook score), assessments, and comments | 17:48 |
| aelkner | so there's nothign similar about the two | 17:48 |
| th1a | OK, explain these things too me again. How is the grade not like a gradebook score? | 17:48 |
| aelkner | there is no score system for SLA narratives | 17:48 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:48 |
| aelkner | gradebook scores are kept as annoations on the person object | 17:49 |
| th1a | I don't care about that. | 17:49 |
| th1a | From the user's point of view. | 17:49 |
| aelkner | the key being the gradebook activity | 17:49 |
| aelkner | the user's point of view | 17:49 |
| aelkner | in the gradebook case, the user goes to the gradebook | 17:49 |
| aelkner | in the narrative case, the user goes to the section interventions view | 17:50 |
| aelkner | so | 17:50 |
| aelkner | the data kept in two entirely different places | 17:50 |
| th1a | No no no. | 17:50 |
| th1a | I don't care about that. | 17:50 |
| aelkner | and the user uses two entirely different views | 17:50 |
| th1a | That's not the question. | 17:50 |
| th1a | Look, the generic SchoolTool report card system should be able to handle the type of reports SLA is doing. | 17:51 |
| th1a | That's my point. | 17:51 |
| th1a | We don't want SLA to have a separate system. | 17:51 |
| th1a | For these reports. | 17:51 |
| th1a | We want SchoolTool to be able to do it in our standard system. | 17:52 |
| th1a | Don't start by thinking about your data model. | 17:52 |
| ignas | +1 | 17:52 |
| th1a | Put it out of your mind. | 17:52 |
| th1a | A principal should be able to create a report sheet that includes a "comment" field. | 17:53 |
| th1a | And then include the contents of that field in a report card. | 17:53 |
| th1a | Don't think about what evolution script you'll have to write. | 17:54 |
| aelkner | i think about the gradebook as a rows and columns of singular cells | 17:56 |
| aelkner | the cels containing a score | 17:56 |
| th1a | Yes... | 17:56 |
| aelkner | this is from the user's pojnt of view, not data model | 17:56 |
| aelkner | so | 17:56 |
| aelkner | in sla's case, there is only one thing to report for a student/section pair | 17:58 |
| aelkner | and that one thing is a set of there values | 17:58 |
| aelkner | score (though there's no scoresystem specified), assessments, and comments | 17:58 |
| th1a | So score is freeform text? | 17:58 |
| aelkner | yeo | 17:58 |
| aelkner | yes | 17:58 |
| th1a | And assessments is text? | 17:59 |
| ignas | it's not one thing then, it's 3 things ;) | 17:59 |
| th1a | And comments is text? | 17:59 |
| aelkner | yes, and yes | 17:59 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:59 |
| th1a | So essentially, we need two things. | 17:59 |
| th1a | We need to be able to look at this in our regular spreadsheet view, click on a cell and get a text entry widget/page. | 18:00 |
| th1a | Or ideally we have an additional way of looking at this which is a little more optimized for text. | 18:00 |
| aelkner | yeah, clicking on the cell gives it focus, so the first idea would not be good | 18:01 |
| th1a | Like, you click on the student name and you get not a grid layout but actually more of our standard auto generated form layout with just a page of fields. | 18:01 |
| th1a | Well, there will have to be a new kind of cell that does something different when you click on it. | 18:01 |
| ignas | th1a: added and Justas, Douglas to the contributors part, and Gediminas to the release managers part | 18:03 |
| th1a | Thanks, ignas. | 18:04 |
| th1a | aelkner: I'm not saying this is a *small* change. | 18:04 |
| th1a | But it is also not an edge case. | 18:05 |
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| th1a | Ask for something to do and ye shall receive. | 18:06 |
| ignas | th1a: ok, packages are in jaunty, now I just need to wait for menesis to come back to the office and test them | 18:08 |
| ignas | and maybe update them if needed | 18:08 |
| th1a | aelkner: Are you alive? | 18:09 |
| th1a | Try breathing into a paper bag. | 18:09 |
| aelkner | yeah, sorry i got a phone call from my grandmother | 18:09 |
| th1a | OK. :-) | 18:09 |
| aelkner | so, i'd love it if you would write up how the user would enter the narrative data | 18:10 |
| aelkner | if clicking on the cell takes you somewhere, then how do they give a cell focus | 18:11 |
| aelkner | to change it's score | 18:11 |
| aelkner | i don't see how it's very nice to throw away the spreadsheet functionality | 18:11 |
| aelkner | i would rather have an alternate view to the gradebook overview | 18:12 |
| th1a | It is a special kind of cell. | 18:12 |
| aelkner | that view, not activing like a spreadsheet | 18:12 |
| th1a | Well, often there will be a mix. | 18:12 |
| aelkner | for starters, we just got done limiting the size of a column to five characters | 18:13 |
| th1a | That's fine. | 18:13 |
| aelkner | and the cells contains scores | 18:13 |
| aelkner | how would we present the comments and assessments? | 18:13 |
| th1a | You're not going to be able to read the text from the spreadsheet view. | 18:13 |
| aelkner | ok | 18:14 |
| th1a | Just whether or not you've entered something. | 18:14 |
| th1a | So you can see what's done. | 18:14 |
| aelkner | so, if the cells contained the input box AND a small button | 18:14 |
| th1a | Eh... | 18:15 |
| aelkner | that itself was colored (or shaped) to reflect the existence of data | 18:15 |
| th1a | Can't you just us an "if" statement to check to do different things when you click on a cell depending on the type of activity? | 18:15 |
| aelkner | click on the button to add/edit | 18:15 |
| aelkner | ah, that's different | 18:15 |
| * th1a is flexing his programming background. | 18:15 | |
| aelkner | of course, we can have the cells behave differently by score system | 18:16 |
| aelkner | what would you suggest the score system to be in SLA's case | 18:16 |
| th1a | Probably the equivalent of textline and textarea. | 18:17 |
| aelkner | what about the three values that SLA uses | 18:18 |
| aelkner | another way of putting it is | 18:18 |
| aelkner | could you just specify the behaviour you want | 18:19 |
| th1a | Two textlines and a textarea? | 18:19 |
| aelkner | SLA has on texline and two test areas | 18:19 |
| aelkner | text | 18:19 |
| th1a | OK. | 18:19 |
| th1a | So from the teacher's point of view, they're looking at a reportsheet with three columns. | 18:20 |
| aelkner | so, if we have a special score system that allows the user to enter those three values | 18:20 |
| th1a | They can click on a cell and (ideally) you just get a javascript "window" into which you enter the value for that cell. | 18:20 |
| th1a | There would be a textarea score system and a textline score system, I guess. | 18:20 |
| aelkner | sla narratives use the FckEditor to enter html markup | 18:21 |
| th1a | Yeah. | 18:21 |
| aelkner | that would not be possible in javascript | 18:21 |
| th1a | That's fine. | 18:21 |
| th1a | Well, I don't know the details. | 18:21 |
| th1a | I've never used the newfangled javascript popup windows. | 18:22 |
| th1a | I don't exactly care about how you get to that window, except quick is good. | 18:22 |
| th1a | For starters, a page load would work. | 18:22 |
| * ignas just removed the example of ajax generated FCK editor form from lyceum.journal | 18:22 | |
| aelkner | why was that? | 18:24 |
| ignas | th1a asked me to remove the lesson description boxes from journal views | 18:24 |
| ignas | th1a: got jaunty by any chance? | 18:24 |
| th1a | I do. | 18:25 |
| ignas | th1a: apt-get update and upgrade | 18:25 |
| ignas | to see if your schooltool is still working | 18:25 |
| aelkner | th1a: ok, i've got plenty to think about now | 18:26 |
| aelkner | i should look at lyceum.journal diffs | 18:26 |
| aelkner | and learn ajax | 18:26 |
| th1a | ignas: Is the package sitll schooltool-2008? | 18:27 |
| ignas | 2008 will do | 18:27 |
| ignas | later you can install 2009, but it will require stopping 2008 (same port) | 18:27 |
| ignas | and copying Data.fs and so one | 18:28 |
| ignas | *on | 18:28 |
| ignas | and it's python packages that I am worried about | 18:28 |
| ignas | at the moment | 18:28 |
| ignas | and thanks for reminding, i think i did not forward port schooltool-2009 :) | 18:28 |
| ignas | OK, I did ;) | 18:29 |
| th1a | ignas: Also, I think the dev build scripts need to be changed to get python2.4-dev explicitly. | 18:31 |
| th1a | Or something like that. | 18:31 |
| ignas | th1a: schooltool works with 2.5 | 18:34 |
| ignas | so - makefiles should be updated to use 2.5 now | 18:34 |
| ignas | but yes, sandboxes will have to be reviewed | 18:34 |
| ignas | as schooltool can work on both 2.4 and 2.5 now | 18:35 |
| ignas | but not 2.6 | 18:35 |
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| ignas | th1a: is it working? | 18:43 |
| th1a | Perhaps not... | 18:44 |
| ignas | hmm? | 18:44 |
| th1a | No module named reportlab.lib. | 18:45 |
| ignas | lisppaste5: url | 18:46 |
| lisppaste5 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool and enter your paste. | 18:46 |
| ignas | full error please | 18:46 |
| ignas | hmm, sudo apt-get install python-reportlab | 18:49 |
| ignas | is telling you what? | 18:49 |
| lisppaste5 | th1a pasted "jaunty-bug" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/78899 | 18:49 |
| th1a | It wasn't installed. | 18:50 |
| ignas | I see | 18:50 |
| ignas | must be lacking dependency | 18:50 |
| ignas | th1a: thanks, will fix this one in the next build | 18:52 |
| * th1a goes to take a shower and go do the hospital. | 18:53 | |
| ignas | ok | 18:53 |
| ignas | bye | 18:53 |
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| Lumiere | hmm I might have to install personas on my mothers firefox | 20:33 |
| Lumiere | and see if I can freak her out | 20:33 |
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| Lumiere | aitch100s76: can we help you? | 23:12 |
| Lumiere | aitch100s76: or are you just going to keep joining and parting | 23:12 |
| aitch100s76 | it must be my connection is up and down | 23:13 |
| Lumiere | ok :) I just notice when people are joining and leaving a lot :) | 23:13 |
| Lumiere | sometimes it is a signal of something not good... (I'm former Freenode Staff, I tend to be a touch paranoid about stuff like that) | 23:14 |
| aitch100s76 | I'll disable the account in pidgin for now | 23:14 |
| Lumiere | don't worry about it | 23:14 |
| aitch100s76 | no - on a wireless internet service | 23:14 |
| Lumiere | fun | 23:14 |
| aitch100s76 | i wonder how things are at Tom's house with the new baby | 23:15 |
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