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| th1a | Hi aelkner, ignas, jelkner. | 16:30 |
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| ignas | th1a: hi | 16:30 |
| aelkner | hi | 16:30 |
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| th1a | hi jstraw. | 16:31 |
| jstraw | hi | 16:31 |
| th1a | So our countdown now is 24 days to beta. | 16:32 |
| th1a | How are we doing, ignas? | 16:32 |
| ignas | th1a: from user visible changes - mostly well ;) | 16:32 |
| ignas | if you would make a checkout of the date_management branch | 16:33 |
| ignas | you could see around for yourself ;) | 16:33 |
| ignas | on a clean database though | 16:33 |
| ignas | i have commited the school year activation | 16:33 |
| th1a | OK. I'll have a look at that. | 16:33 |
| ignas | and school year tabs | 16:33 |
| ignas | today | 16:33 |
| jstraw | well, there's some good news from my end... doesn't look like there are bugs from my schooltool installs | 16:33 |
| th1a | jstraw: Did you think there were? | 16:34 |
| * ignas is trying to optimize the texts a bit, and is wondering why testbrowser fails to recognize <a class="active_schoolyear" href="http://localhost:7080/schoolyears/2005-2006">2005-2006</a> | 16:36 | |
| ignas | as a link | 16:36 |
| aelkner | testbrowser can be a pain sometimes | 16:37 |
| th1a | Looks good to me. | 16:37 |
| th1a | ignas: So what should I be looking for? | 16:37 |
| th1a | Or I guess it should just make sense ;-) | 16:38 |
| jstraw | th1a: nope | 16:38 |
| ignas | th1a: well - you should just try setting up the school as you were doing it in your documentation | 16:38 |
| th1a | I mean, the link looks like it should work. | 16:38 |
| ignas | th1a: and see what parts have changed | 16:38 |
| th1a | ignas: OK. | 16:38 |
| ignas | th1a: i know | 16:38 |
| ignas | th1a: not everything works, some links are above when they should be below | 16:39 |
| ignas | and so on, but it should give you at least some insight into how it will look like | 16:39 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:39 |
| ignas | setting up one year should *work* | 16:39 |
| ignas | if it does not - it's a bug | 16:39 |
| th1a | Where is the branch? ~ignas on lp? | 16:40 |
| ignas | lp:~ignas/schooltool/schooltool_date_management i think | 16:41 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:41 |
| ignas | in 48 minutes | 16:41 |
| ignas | next mirror | 16:41 |
| ignas | so you might have to wait for the last commit | 16:41 |
| th1a | Ah. | 16:41 |
| th1a | How are you feeling about your schedule, ignas? | 16:42 |
| ignas | uneasy | 16:43 |
| ignas | i am pretty sure I won't manage to do *everything* i would like to | 16:43 |
| ignas | so I am focusing on the important things | 16:43 |
| th1a | That's the only way to do it. | 16:43 |
| ignas | as soon as I'll have the school year switch over working i'll go for the evolution script | 16:44 |
| ignas | so even in the worst case we will have something to release | 16:44 |
| ignas | and that something will have school years | 16:44 |
| ignas | I also will make gradebook a plugin | 16:44 |
| th1a | Yes, we must have gradebook. | 16:44 |
| ignas | i am not 100% sure i will have enough time to have section hiding based on active school years though and similar things, though I will definitely try to make it | 16:45 |
| aelkner | ignas: have you merged my latest gradebook? | 16:45 |
| th1a | Actually, what's the status of merging? | 16:45 |
| ignas | aelkner: no, not really | 16:45 |
| ignas | could you send me an email with branches you need merged | 16:45 |
| ignas | or a merge request on launchpad | 16:45 |
| aelkner | i believe there already is a reqest | 16:46 |
| ignas | ok, i will look at it | 16:46 |
| aelkner | for merging the one and only branch i use | 16:46 |
| aelkner | the aelkner brnach | 16:46 |
| aelkner | let me know if you need any info | 16:46 |
| ignas | you need it in trunk or release or both? | 16:46 |
| aelkner | both | 16:46 |
| aelkner | it's place in trunk will help the cando installation | 16:47 |
| aelkner | also the beta release should have the latest | 16:47 |
| ignas | i am talking about gutsy release | 16:48 |
| aelkner | i don't know of any distinction between releases | 16:48 |
| aelkner | i just know you're making a beta, right? | 16:48 |
| ignas | ok, i guess i'll just look at it | 16:48 |
| th1a | gutsy? | 16:49 |
| ignas | th1a: current release branch | 16:49 |
| ignas | 2008.04 | 16:49 |
| th1a | Ok. | 16:49 |
| ignas | jstraw: by the way - it was not the fault of the testbrowser, I was creating school year *after* creating the browser, and then expecting to find the link :) | 16:49 |
| th1a | Aha. | 16:50 |
| th1a | I'll have to remember that. | 16:50 |
| jstraw | ignas: -> aelkner? | 16:50 |
| ignas | jstraw: yes, sorry | 16:51 |
| aelkner | what? | 16:51 |
| jstraw | aelkner: the line to me above is for you | 16:51 |
| ignas | aelkner: you said "testbrowser is a pain sometimes" | 16:51 |
| aelkner | well, i've had problems finding links before, but i guess you figured out what the problem was | 16:51 |
| ignas | but it was my mistake setUpBasicSchool() was not updating the manager browser state ;) | 16:52 |
| th1a | Ah, so will it catch that mistake now? | 16:52 |
| ignas | no | 16:52 |
| ignas | it can't | 16:52 |
| ignas | you can't expect that, if you create a browser | 16:52 |
| ignas | and then do stuff with another browser | 16:52 |
| ignas | you either have to manager.reload() | 16:52 |
| ignas | or create the manager after the operations | 16:53 |
| ignas | just like with real browser ;) | 16:53 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:53 |
| ignas | if th1a does stuff, i should not expect my firefox to auto refresh ;) | 16:53 |
| th1a | Yes. | 16:53 |
| jstraw | ignas: unless you write a bunch of ugly ajax | 16:54 |
| jstraw | :) | 16:54 |
| th1a | Anything else, ignas? | 16:55 |
| ignas | th1a: no, not really, only worked on school year activation this week | 16:55 |
| ignas | next week i'll be adding switchover subscribers | 16:55 |
| ignas | for every schooltool module | 16:56 |
| jelkner | aelkner: can you call me at work? | 16:56 |
| jelkner | as soon as th1a drops the gravel ;-) | 16:56 |
| ignas | and fixing some UI | 16:56 |
| aelkner | jelkner: yep | 16:56 |
| th1a | ignas: Sounds like fun. | 16:56 |
| th1a | aelkner: You're up. | 16:56 |
| ignas | like - new term link in a different place for school year view | 16:56 |
| aelkner | so this week was the first week i went 20 hours schooltool, 20 hours cando | 16:57 |
| th1a | aelkner: (also, send me an invoice...) | 16:57 |
| aelkner | only i took some time off for myself this week, so it ended up being 20 cando, 10 schooltool | 16:57 |
| aelkner | i'll send the invoice today, sorry for the delay | 16:57 |
| aelkner | anyway, things were slow with SLA this week | 16:57 |
| th1a | Yes. I understand. We'll get them rolling this afternoon. | 16:58 |
| aelkner | i patched their data to have the new rubric activities | 16:58 |
| aelkner | and i also had to patch their data a couple of times to get rid of some orphaned sections | 16:58 |
| aelkner | left over from the way they used my section importer | 16:58 |
| aelkner | eventually, as Chris requested | 16:59 |
| aelkner | i will need to have the importer be able to handle reimporting | 16:59 |
| th1a | What was up with the missing students? | 16:59 |
| aelkner | there weren't any missing students | 16:59 |
| aelkner | there were students that had advisors that were mssing | 17:00 |
| aelkner | but yes, that reminds me of that patch | 17:00 |
| aelkner | i had to add a event handler to handle when they delete and advisor | 17:00 |
| aelkner | so that a student doesn't have a reference to an advisor that doesn't exist anymore | 17:00 |
| aelkner | but yes, that's another thing i did for them | 17:01 |
| aelkner | anyway, we have the meeting today at 1:00 | 17:01 |
| th1a | Yes. Although in the longer run we don't want to be deleting people. | 17:01 |
| aelkner | schooltool allows it, and they did it | 17:01 |
| aelkner | two teachers that left at the end of the last school year | 17:02 |
| aelkner | so, that's where the problem occured | 17:02 |
| aelkner | but it won't anymore | 17:02 |
| th1a | I mean, it is a case we'll always have to cover unless we make it impossible (we won't), but we do need to switch to a model where people are set to an inactive state without being deleted. | 17:03 |
| jelkner | th1a: we will definitely need to "deactivate" people | 17:03 |
| th1a | Clearly. | 17:03 |
| jelkner | yup ;-) | 17:03 |
| aelkner | after ignas releases the beta, we could discuss a stadegy for that | 17:03 |
| aelkner | strategy | 17:04 |
| aelkner | but yes | 17:04 |
| ignas | th1a: the school year tabs have removed like 80 clicks from functional tests :) | 17:04 |
| th1a | That should speed things up. | 17:04 |
| ignas | for users | 17:05 |
| aelkner | so am i up or what? (aelkner mocks annoyance) | 17:05 |
| aelkner | :) | 17:05 |
| aelkner | anyway | 17:06 |
| aelkner | i worked on getting up to speed with cando in its current state | 17:06 |
| aelkner | i fixed a bug for them last week with message queuing | 17:06 |
| aelkner | and figured out another problem they were having with course skill drivers | 17:07 |
| aelkner | cando still has many failing tests | 17:07 |
| aelkner | which i could fix myself | 17:07 |
| jelkner | aelkner: any chance you could fix them before the sprint? | 17:08 |
| aelkner | but i'd like for there to be a final hand-off meeting between Justus and myself | 17:08 |
| aelkner | i probably could | 17:08 |
| aelkner | depends on priorities set by welsh | 17:09 |
| jelkner | i know replaceafil is eager to start digging in to the app | 17:09 |
| jelkner | but he would like all tests to pass before he starts | 17:09 |
| aelkner | well, if i don't have them fixed by the sprint, he could help fix them then | 17:09 |
| jelkner | i can talk to dwelsh about that | 17:09 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:09 |
| aelkner | ignas: what's the expected arrival date of Justus back from vacation? | 17:10 |
| ignas | duno, he's on vacation | 17:10 |
| aelkner | he didn't say when he was coming back? | 17:10 |
| ignas | i am sure by next week monday he'll be back | 17:10 |
| ignas | but i didn't ask him when specifically | 17:11 |
| aelkner | oh, so that's not gong to help me this week | 17:11 |
| aelkner | ok, fine | 17:11 |
| ignas | i don't know, I would not expect that to happen | 17:11 |
| ignas | i mean - he might do something, but you should not rely on it | 17:11 |
| aelkner | i won't | 17:11 |
| th1a | My advice would be for aelkner to just fix them now. | 17:12 |
| aelkner | that's already what i decided to do | 17:12 |
| aelkner | but the priorities are set by dwelsh | 17:12 |
| aelkner | so that will be part of our cando meeting after this one | 17:12 |
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| aelkner | jelkner: are you guys ready to convene for a phone conference? | 17:13 |
| ignas | aelkner: i can only see a merge request for your CAS branch, nothing there for gradebook | 17:13 |
| aelkner | ignas: you're right, sorry | 17:13 |
| aelkner | that's what i had in the back of my mind | 17:14 |
| aelkner | i'll make the request right now | 17:14 |
| ignas | thanks | 17:15 |
| ignas | that makes it easier for me to do it when you are not online ;) | 17:15 |
| aelkner | so i requested a merge into trunk | 17:16 |
| ignas | yeah | 17:16 |
| aelkner | is that enough to remind you to merge into the release as well | 17:16 |
| ignas | we definitely want your changes in trunk | 17:16 |
| ignas | that's enough | 17:16 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:16 |
| ignas | i'll see if it's worth merging to release myself | 17:16 |
| aelkner | i was really hoping | 17:16 |
| aelkner | because, th1a wanted me to get the inheritance out or the reuirements package | 17:17 |
| aelkner | and i added the spreadsheet capability that would probably make the release better | 17:17 |
| aelkner | but it up to you of course | 17:17 |
| aelkner | th1a: that's all i have | 17:18 |
| th1a | OK -- jelkner, jstraw? | 17:19 |
| jelkner | i already said my piece | 17:19 |
| th1a | peace. | 17:19 |
| jelkner | i'm hoping we can get tests passing by the sprint | 17:19 |
| jelkner | th1a: yeah man, peace to you to! | 17:20 |
| jelkner | we will have aelkner, fsufitchi and replaceafil for the weekend | 17:20 |
| jelkner | so we could get a lot done | 17:20 |
| jelkner | the focus will be gradebook | 17:21 |
| th1a | So what we want is for the current gradebook work to be merged into the trunk and then we | 17:21 |
| jelkner | and we start with the 3 pm meeting | 17:21 |
| th1a | will work on a branch? | 17:21 |
| th1a | What should the bzr logistics be? | 17:22 |
| jelkner | to whom are you addressing that question? | 17:22 |
| th1a | Our resident bzr expert. | 17:22 |
| th1a | That's you, ignas. | 17:23 |
| ignas | th1a: :) | 17:23 |
| ignas | well - bzr branch from trunk | 17:23 |
| ignas | hmm | 17:23 |
| aelkner | after the merge, of course | 17:23 |
| ignas | you will want to work on the same branch | 17:23 |
| ignas | won't you? | 17:23 |
| ignas | well - all of you have launchpad accounts | 17:24 |
| ignas | so you should probably push the branch to schooltool-owners | 17:24 |
| ignas | and get all of the participants in schooltool-owners group on launchpad | 17:25 |
| ignas | so you could just "bzr co" | 17:25 |
| ignas | and "bzr ci" | 17:25 |
| ignas | it should save you time integrating stuff | 17:25 |
| ignas | I don't think you will be working on separate features | 17:25 |
| ignas | another way to do it would be - aelkner commiting, others contributing | 17:25 |
| ignas | and sending patches | 17:25 |
| jelkner | aelkner will be pairing with replaceafil | 17:26 |
| aelkner | and filip | 17:26 |
| jelkner | but fsufitchi will probably be working independently | 17:26 |
| jelkner | he will only be there friday night | 17:26 |
| jelkner | until 3 pm saturday | 17:26 |
| aelkner | so we'll need him to be able to commit to the same branch | 17:27 |
| jelkner | so we should think of something for him to work on that is not tied in to what the two of you are doing | 17:27 |
| aelkner | or n to if we wnat to do it with patches | 17:27 |
| ignas | well - get him into schooltool-owners group then | 17:27 |
| jelkner | yes, that sounds best | 17:27 |
| ignas | what's your sprint "name" ? | 17:27 |
| th1a | I can do that. | 17:27 |
| jelkner | SchoolTool | 17:28 |
| ignas | i could even get you a schooltool.gradebook branch after I mere the changes | 17:28 |
| ignas | jelkner: can we do something more specific? like location, or date? | 17:28 |
| aelkner | ignas: thanks | 17:28 |
| jelkner | http://www.openplans.org/projects/plone-conference-2008-dc/schooltool | 17:28 |
| th1a | Battleground Sprint. | 17:28 |
| ignas | th1a: thanks | 17:28 |
| ignas | aelkner: so i'll do schooltool.gradebook_battleground branch for you after I merge | 17:28 |
| aelkner | Get out the vote sprint? | 17:29 |
| aelkner | ignas: perfect | 17:29 |
| th1a | ignas: Virginia is one of the states that will decide the election this year. | 17:29 |
| th1a | (if it is close, which I now doubt) | 17:29 |
| aelkner | let's not count our chickens | 17:29 |
| ignas | th1a: well, if they do it wrong - you can blame them ;) | 17:30 |
| aelkner | they could still stela this thing | 17:30 |
| aelkner | steal | 17:30 |
| jelkner | but VA will still be voting Democratic for the first time since 1964 | 17:30 |
| jelkner | this is historical | 17:30 |
| aelkner | let's hope | 17:30 |
| ignas | aelkner: as far as offtopics go - have you watched "Burn after reading" already? | 17:30 |
| aelkner | one of my favorites ever! | 17:31 |
| ignas | good :) | 17:31 |
| aelkner | you liked it too? | 17:31 |
| ignas | "and what have we learned?" ;) | 17:31 |
| aelkner | hehe | 17:31 |
| th1a | OK. I think that's it. | 17:32 |
| th1a | See most of you on Friday. | 17:32 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:32 | |
| th1a | Have a great week! | 17:32 |
| aelkner | thanks, you too | 17:32 |
| ignas | you too ;) | 17:32 |
| aelkner | jelkner: i tried calling you, but you didn't answer | 17:33 |
| aelkner | jstraw: ayt? | 17:34 |
| jelkner | aelkner: try now | 17:34 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:34 |
| jstraw | am now | 17:35 |
| jstraw | _not_ available for call | 17:35 |
| aelkner | is welsh around | 17:35 |
| jstraw | aelkner: I am at my ES | 17:43 |
| jstraw | jelkner: please remind aelkner and dwelsh that I will *not* be able to do phone meetings on monday | 17:49 |
| jelkner | jstraw: aelkner was wondering where dwelsh is | 17:50 |
| jelkner | he thought we had a regular 10:30 meeting | 17:50 |
| aelkner | jstraw: ok, i'll let welsh know when i talk to him | 17:50 |
| jelkner | but dwelsh is not to be found | 17:50 |
| * aelkner takes a shower now | 17:51 | |
| jelkner | ok, i need to get back to grading | 17:51 |
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| jstraw | hi replaceafill | 19:02 |
| replaceafill | hi jstraw | 19:02 |
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