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| ccarey | fsufitch: i'm here | 03:04 |
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| fsufitch | ccarey: heyyy-o | 03:04 |
| ccarey | can you get me up to speed on what you've been able to work on? | 03:05 |
| ccarey | i made a few changes in buildCompetencyDict | 03:05 |
| ccarey | but i'm not sure if they're correct | 03:05 |
| ccarey | skilldrivers fail during unittests | 03:06 |
| ccarey | fsufitch? | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | ccarey: thanks for pinking | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | umm | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | so wat i've done | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | is i've changed the README.txt for skilldrivers | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | so | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | if we can combine our code maybe it works | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | but hang on | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | i'm sending u the new README | 03:20 |
| fsufitch | try to run the utests | 03:20 |
| ccarey | gobby? | 03:21 |
| fsufitch | okay | 03:21 |
| fsufitch | ok, it's readme4 | 03:22 |
| ccarey | ok | 03:24 |
| ccarey | did you change the ftests we were working on? | 03:30 |
| fsufitch | ccarey: no | 03:33 |
| ccarey | ok do you know what i could work on? or what we need to do next? | 03:34 |
| ccarey | i don't fully understand everything that's going on, because i can't really test it | 03:35 |
| fsufitch | i dont understand either | 03:41 |
| fsufitch | i need alan to see wat i've done wrong | 03:41 |
| fsufitch | cuz i cant find anything | 03:41 |
| fsufitch | and as for what ur doing, i'm clueless... >.> | 03:41 |
| ccarey | yeah... | 03:41 |
| ccarey | it'll be easier getting into it tmrw | 03:41 |
| ccarey | but i'll keep looking through the code tonite | 03:41 |
| fsufitch | kk | 03:42 |
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| ccarey | fsufitch, has your cando.skilldriver unit test been failing because it fails setUpSchoolSite()? | 04:27 |
| ccarey | there's a comment above the setUpSchoolSite function, saying that it should only be called after placefulSetUp() | 04:30 |
| ccarey | unlike the other cando unit tests, tests.py in cando.skilldriver does 'placelesssetup.setUp(test)' | 04:30 |
| ccarey | i don't really know what it means yet | 04:30 |
| ccarey | but tests.py doesn't call this method like the comment says it should | 04:31 |
| ccarey | last note, my unit test fails with the call to setUpLocalAuth in schooltool.testing.setup line 71 | 04:58 |
| ccarey | i'll see you tmrw | 04:58 |
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| Lumiere | hi ccarey | 15:51 |
| ccarey | hi Lumiere | 15:52 |
| Lumiere | ccarey: are you at ACC? | 15:52 |
| ccarey | yup | 15:52 |
| Lumiere | give people my apologies | 15:52 |
| Lumiere | I am waiting for my car | 15:52 |
| ccarey | well no one's here just yet, but i'll let them know | 15:52 |
| Lumiere | ok | 15:52 |
| Lumiere | I'll probably be in between 9:30 and 10 | 15:53 |
| Lumiere | I realized I had to get inspection and emissions done today | 15:53 |
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| Lumiere | hi fsufitch | 16:14 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: hello | 16:20 |
| fsufitch | which sodas would you like to get? | 16:20 |
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| ccarey | brb | 16:24 |
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| Lumiere | fsufitch: diet coke | 16:27 |
| Lumiere | and lots of it | 16:28 |
| Lumiere | th1a: hi | 16:28 |
| Lumiere | th1a: meeting today? | 16:28 |
| th1a | Yes, although I seem to remember aelkner telling me he wouldn't make it. | 16:28 |
| th1a | I have things to discuss with ignas, though. | 16:28 |
| th1a | However, I have to go get my coffee first. | 16:28 |
| th1a | brb | 16:28 |
| ignas | hi | 16:29 |
| fsufitch | http://frankmash.blogspot.com/2006/03/linux-commands-funny-linux-commands.html | 16:30 |
| Lumiere | ok | 16:30 |
| th1a | hi ignas. | 16:32 |
| fsufitch | ignas: hello | 16:33 |
| ignas | fsufitch: hi | 16:33 |
| ignas | so :) | 16:33 |
| th1a | Well, I'll be in Vilnius this time next week. | 16:33 |
| ignas | indeed | 16:34 |
| th1a | How was your week ignas? | 16:34 |
| ignas | well - finished everything related to the timetable refactoring i was doing | 16:35 |
| ignas | had to "skip" the last thing | 16:35 |
| ignas | i was planning to have terms and school timetables pointing to their timetables | 16:35 |
| ignas | but apparently that is way too difficult to do | 16:35 |
| ignas | possible, but the complexity of the solution is worse than the problem... | 16:36 |
| ignas | so I am working on the SchoolYear objects now | 16:36 |
| ignas | adding add forms, containers and trying to think of how to do the evolution | 16:36 |
| th1a | What are the implications of the skip? | 16:37 |
| ignas | well - deleting school timetables will be slow | 16:37 |
| ignas | performing operations on all timetables in a term will be slow too | 16:37 |
| ignas | but we can live with that | 16:37 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:38 |
| ignas | i mean - there are only like 2 places in the code that would need that, and they are not used often | 16:38 |
| ignas | the trickiest part will be the "smart" evolution script for school years it seems | 16:38 |
| ignas | that would assign a school year for every term | 16:39 |
| ignas | and then we will have a lot of discussion about the UI to manage everything properly | 16:39 |
| ignas | in EP | 16:39 |
| th1a | OK. So that's on the list. | 16:39 |
| ignas | so I am planning to add the SchoolYear class before europython | 16:40 |
| ignas | and work on my EP talk | 16:40 |
| th1a | Sounds good. | 16:40 |
| ignas | that's kind of it | 16:41 |
| th1a | Do you think it would be useful to get the jelkner gradebook into our .debs while we're at EP? | 16:41 |
| th1a | I mean, would it help to have aelkner around for that? | 16:42 |
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| ignas | th1a: they have to fix the backend first | 16:42 |
| ignas | th1a: i don't want it released if there is a chance of database corruption | 16:42 |
| th1a | Oh... the requirements, right. | 16:43 |
| ignas | yes | 16:43 |
| th1a | Good point. | 16:43 |
| th1a | Anything else on your EP to do list? | 16:43 |
| ignas | hmm, looking at CAS functional testing maybe | 16:44 |
| ignas | it should not take long | 16:44 |
| ignas | to set up something that would "enable" functional testing | 16:44 |
| ignas | but I think the school year stuff will be enough | 16:45 |
| ignas | finding the compromises and finding out how it will actually work | 16:45 |
| ignas | anything else? | 16:46 |
| th1a | I was thinking about adding some more demographic and contact info to persons prior to the next release. | 16:48 |
| ignas | hmm, we could do that, though we don't really need a sprint for that | 16:50 |
| ignas | just come up with a new schema | 16:50 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:50 |
| th1a | We probably should focus on one thing. | 16:50 |
| th1a | Since it is the last big blocker! | 16:50 |
| ignas | ? | 16:50 |
| th1a | Terms. | 16:50 |
| ignas | yeah | 16:51 |
| th1a | So I'll resist the temptation to come up with smaller distractions. | 16:51 |
| th1a | How do you feel about starting work the last day of the conference? | 16:51 |
| ignas | we'll see, i think we'll start discussing some things even earlier | 16:52 |
| th1a | Sure. | 16:52 |
| th1a | OK... Lumiere? | 16:53 |
| th1a | You have anything to add? | 16:53 |
| th1a | ... | 16:55 |
| th1a | Oh... ignas... | 16:55 |
| ignas | yes | 16:56 |
| th1a | Do you have any thoughts about this Zope 3 backwards compatibility issue. | 16:56 |
| th1a | I mean, we really haven't budgeted time for it. | 16:56 |
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| ignas | well - not really, only a vague idea. I mean - to get our packages accepted we should make the migration of instances that are using the old Zope3 packages still work with the new packages | 16:57 |
| ignas | though - i am not sure it is even feasible, though we should at least try | 16:58 |
| ignas | but to do that - we need some help or support from people who made the old packages | 16:58 |
| ignas | it's not "zope/python" stuff | 16:58 |
| ignas | it | 16:58 |
| ignas | it's mostly debian/linux stuff from what I understand | 16:58 |
| ignas | daemon start/stop scripts | 16:58 |
| th1a | Oh... | 16:59 |
| ignas | zcml slugs | 16:59 |
| ignas | data directories and etc | 16:59 |
| th1a | Not turn 'import zope.foo' into 'import 'zope.deb.foo' | 16:59 |
| th1a | Well, that's good. | 17:00 |
| th1a | I'll write an email trying to explain this to Mark and have you and jinty check my accuracy. | 17:00 |
| ignas | ok | 17:01 |
| th1a | One more thing on my list... | 17:01 |
| th1a | I got an email from someone interested in translations... we don't really have Rosetta updated for the current packages, do we? | 17:02 |
| ignas | no, not yet | 17:02 |
| ignas | my fault totally | 17:02 |
| ignas | when I got stuck with the series stuff | 17:02 |
| ignas | i kind of put that thing into backlog | 17:03 |
| th1a | Is the series stuff resolved? Do we still need to have calendar deleted? | 17:03 |
| ignas | we still need calendar deleted, and I/someone has to go read up about it and think of precisely how it is going to look and work | 17:04 |
| ignas | and then just upload translations for our "2008.04" release | 17:04 |
| ignas | and upload translation templates for our "dev" | 17:05 |
| th1a | Read up about how series will work? | 17:05 |
| ignas | i mean - i have seen how it looks on launchpad project for bzr | 17:05 |
| ignas | but I still don't know how precisely do you set up something like that and how do you work with it workflow wise | 17:05 |
| ignas | like - what are the steps when you make a new release | 17:06 |
| ignas | Add series, regisgter the release, mark series as "series that should be translated", "upload the new POT" or something like that probably | 17:06 |
| ignas | but I am not sure enough to go and start messing up with our setup on launchpad | 17:07 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:07 |
| th1a | I'll work on that. | 17:07 |
| ignas | thanks | 17:07 |
| ignas | as soon as you will have the release series set up I will generate the translation files and upload them | 17:08 |
| th1a | Can you try to kick the bot building the users guide on pov.lt. | 17:08 |
| ignas | we might want to use EuroPython to discuss these things with launchpad people | 17:08 |
| ignas | especially the issue with translator emails | 17:08 |
| ignas | in PO files | 17:08 |
| th1a | Yes, I was thinking the same thing. | 17:09 |
| th1a | But we basically know what series we need. | 17:09 |
| ignas | because that's the other issue that is bothering me concerning translation | 17:09 |
| ignas | i *think* we need 2008.04 + dev at the moment | 17:10 |
| th1a | Maybe there should be no translation of dev. | 17:10 |
| ignas | we can do that too, i mean - only upload POT files when doing/updating the release | 17:11 |
| ignas | so dev would not have any pot files uploaded | 17:12 |
| th1a | That might be least confusing. | 17:12 |
| th1a | Not confusing is important. | 17:12 |
| ignas | indeed | 17:13 |
| th1a | OK. That's my list. | 17:14 |
| th1a | Lumiere: Any last words? | 17:15 |
| th1a | OK. See you soon, ignas. | 17:16 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:16 | |
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| ccarey | fsufitch, get on gobby real quick | 17:31 |
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| Lumiere | th1a: I had to run from car repair shop to work | 18:24 |
| Lumiere | I was wireless from there | 18:24 |
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| whaddon | ignas: I am having a problem building cando. | 20:13 |
| ignas | whaddon: yes | 20:13 |
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| whaddon | It gets to a point where it says "Installing cando." and freezes | 20:14 |
| whaddon | Some of us think it has to do with something called paste script | 20:14 |
| whaddon | I am just coming back to cando development. | 20:14 |
| ignas | Installing cando. ? | 20:15 |
| ignas | emm, what instructions are you following when setting up your cando instance? | 20:15 |
| whaddon | That's all it says. | 20:15 |
| ignas | and could you lisppaste me the command you are running please | 20:15 |
| ignas | lisppaste5: url | 20:15 |
| lisppaste5 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool and enter your paste. | 20:15 |
| ignas | with all the output | 20:15 |
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| lisppaste5 | whaddon pasted "cando build output" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/63046 | 20:17 |
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| whaddon | I checked it out from https://svn.schooltool.org/cando/branches/cando-buildout-integration | 20:18 |
| ignas | i see | 20:19 |
| ignas | interesting, and it gets completely stuck? | 20:19 |
| whaddon | Yes. I left it there for about half an hour. Nothing happened, and there was no disk activity. | 20:20 |
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| ignas | weird | 20:20 |
| ignas | tried restarting? | 20:20 |
| ignas | or running "make test" for example | 20:20 |
| whaddon | Restarting the computer? | 20:20 |
| ignas | no | 20:20 |
| ignas | the script | 20:20 |
| ignas | Ctrl+C | 20:20 |
| ignas | and then "make" | 20:20 |
| whaddon | Yes. It does the same thing. When I press Ctrl+C it says while: Installing cando. Getting distribution for 'PasteScript'. | 20:22 |
| ignas | oh | 20:22 |
| ignas | i see | 20:22 |
| ignas | the "Installing cando." was the last line in the paste | 20:22 |
| ignas | weird | 20:23 |
| ignas | i can download the tarball from http://pypi.python.org/pypi/PasteScript/1.6.3 | 20:23 |
| ignas | try bin/buildout -vv | 20:23 |
| ignas | it should give you more output | 20:23 |
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| lisppaste5 | whaddon_ pasted "bin/buildout -vv" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/63047 | 20:32 |
| whaddon_ | ignas: sorry for the delay. we were having network problems | 20:32 |
| ignas | weird PasteScript gets installed properly for me, i'll try one more thing though | 20:36 |
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| ignas | whaddon: by the way - maybe it is related yo your network problems? | 20:37 |
| ignas | yeah, a clean install get's through the PasteScript part properly on my PC | 20:38 |
| whaddon_ | I can try another clean install | 20:38 |
| ignas | well - think "rm -rf bin parts eggs python" should be enough | 20:39 |
| ignas | "rm -rf python develop-eggs bin parts .installed.cfg TAGS tags ID" | 20:39 |
| ignas | is the clean command used in schooltool | 20:40 |
| whaddon_ | I already deleted the directory before you said that. | 20:40 |
| whaddon_ | its running make again | 20:41 |
| whaddon_ | it worked. thank you | 20:41 |
| whaddon_ | (or at least got past pastescript | 20:42 |
| ignas | :) | 20:42 |
| ignas | if you know how - add the "clean" target to the Makefile in some proper place | 20:42 |
| ignas | so you could do a rebuild without removing the cando directory | 20:43 |
| whaddon_ | i'll look at that | 20:43 |
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| fsufitch | a little channel announcement: the network for all of APS is down. | 20:58 |
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| ccarey | http://www.w3schools.com/css/default.asp | 22:05 |
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| th1a_ | Hi aelkner. | 22:47 |
| aelkner | hey th1a_ | 22:47 |
| aelkner | we could use your help | 22:47 |
| aelkner | we have two developers here that aren't on the cando commiters list | 22:47 |
| aelkner | also, eldar is and shouldn't be anymore | 22:47 |
| aelkner | can you help us with that | 22:48 |
| th1a_ | Not personally. | 22:48 |
| th1a_ | Jinty, right? | 22:48 |
| aelkner | how aout impersonally | 22:48 |
| aelkner | so only pov guys? | 22:48 |
| th1a_ | jinty does not work for pov. | 22:48 |
| th1a_ | The repository is on our server. | 22:48 |
| aelkner | but also european time | 22:49 |
| th1a_ | If only we had some kind of version control system that rendered this not a problem... | 22:49 |
| th1a_ | some kind of distributed version control system... | 22:49 |
| aelkner | haha | 22:49 |
| aelkner | we'd still need to reach the host to share with one another | 22:50 |
| aelkner | so there | 22:50 |
| th1a_ | Technically, I don't think you would. | 22:51 |
| th1a_ | You could directly share branches. | 22:51 |
| th1a_ | There is, I think, a howto on the very subject somewhere. | 22:51 |
| th1a_ | Doing a sprint with bzr and no internet connection. | 22:51 |
| aelkner | you need a local network though, right? | 22:52 |
| th1a_ | Oh... well, probably. | 22:52 |
| aelkner | anyway, i see the advantage if you have a local network but no internet | 22:53 |
| th1a_ | Anyhow, I have to go start dinner. You can email jinty about access, the kids will need ssh keys. | 22:53 |
| aelkner | ok, thanks | 22:56 |
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