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| wbrady | jelkner: did you get to look at the work I did? | 16:00 |
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| jelkner | wbrady: 5419 | 16:34 |
| jelkner | aelkner: u here? | 16:34 |
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| wbrady | jelkner: ayt? | 17:15 |
| aelkner | ignas: ayt? | 17:24 |
| jelkner | th1a: ayt? | 17:25 |
| wbrady | jelkner: did u see the networking stuff? | 17:26 |
| jelkner | wbrady: 5419 | 17:26 |
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| ignas | aelkner: yes | 17:52 |
| ignas | aelkner: i am here now | 17:52 |
| ignas | th1a: ping | 17:52 |
| aelkner | yeah, my brother has contacted me regarding the gradebook, and he points out a bug that i need to fix | 17:53 |
| aelkner | but i have questions about distributing | 17:53 |
| aelkner | and developing for that matter | 17:53 |
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| aelkner_ | igas: am i here? | 17:55 |
| ignas | yes | 17:55 |
| aelkner_ | i got disconnected for some reason | 17:55 |
| aelkner_ | anyway | 17:55 |
| aelkner_ | i had to set up buildout.cfg in schooltool.stapp2008spring | 17:55 |
| aelkner_ | wherein i had to specify sla as the main app | 17:56 |
| ignas | i see | 17:56 |
| aelkner_ | so you see my dilemma | 17:56 |
| ignas | nope, not really | 17:57 |
| aelkner_ | oh, i thought when you said "i see" that you already knew my dilemma | 17:57 |
| aelkner_ | so i'll explain | 17:57 |
| aelkner_ | if i bzr brach jelkner2007 | 17:57 |
| aelkner_ | how do i run it? | 17:58 |
| aelkner_ | i don't want to have to change buildout.cfg in schooltool.stapp... | 17:58 |
| aelkner_ | every time i switch between working on jelkner and sla | 17:58 |
| ignas | emm | 17:59 |
| ignas | so what do you want to do? | 17:59 |
| ignas | and why can't jelkner2007 and sla be enabled at the same time | 17:59 |
| ignas | ? | 17:59 |
| ignas | just in 2 different instances | 17:59 |
| aelkner_ | ah, maybe i don't understand it yet | 17:59 |
| ignas | maybe | 18:00 |
| aelkner_ | so if i add jelkner2007 to buildout.cfg | 18:00 |
| aelkner_ | that makes it available to create and instance with | 18:00 |
| ignas | yes | 18:00 |
| aelkner_ | so then i run /bin/make-schooltool-instance jelkner2007? | 18:01 |
| aelkner_ | forgetting the first / | 18:01 |
| ignas | something like that, the parameter is the directory for the instance | 18:01 |
| aelkner_ | is there a doc for using make-schooltool-instance? | 18:02 |
| aelkner_ | your help page doesn't mention it | 18:03 |
| ignas | nope | 18:04 |
| ignas | i think running it without parameters | 18:04 |
| ignas | or with --help | 18:04 |
| ignas | should give you the info | 18:04 |
| aelkner_ | i see someting in the Makefile | 18:04 |
| aelkner_ | bin/make-schooltool-instance instance instance_type=schooltool.stapp2008spring | 18:04 |
| ignas | yes, instance is the directory | 18:04 |
| aelkner_ | so i could rrun: | 18:04 |
| ignas | instance_type is the instance type | 18:04 |
| ignas | so you either pass instance_type thourgh the command line | 18:05 |
| ignas | or set it | 18:05 |
| ignas | in the dialog | 18:05 |
| aelkner_ | bin/make-schooltool-instance jelkner2007 instance_type=schooltool.jelkner2207? | 18:05 |
| ignas | that you get if you do not set it | 18:05 |
| aelkner_ | bin/make-schooltool-instance jelkner2007 instance_type=schooltool.jelkner2007? | 18:05 |
| ignas | it will work i'd guess | 18:05 |
| aelkner_ | then bin/start-schooltool-instance jelkner2007 | 18:06 |
| ignas | yes | 18:06 |
| aelkner_ | ok, i think i get it now | 18:07 |
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| mgallagh | aelkner? | 18:28 |
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| mattva01 | aelkner_? | 18:32 |
| aelkner_ | yes? | 18:32 |
| mattva01 | ok so we want to move our cando instance onto a bzr branch? | 18:33 |
| aelkner_ | no | 18:33 |
| aelkner_ | this is the schooltool instance that jeff uses for grading | 18:33 |
| mattva01 | oh right | 18:33 |
| aelkner_ | start by reading this: | 18:34 |
| aelkner_ | http://ignas.pov.lt/setting_up_bzr_schooltool_sandbox.html | 18:34 |
| aelkner_ | don't take any of the action until you've read it all | 18:34 |
| aelkner_ | ping me when you're done reading, then we'll get started | 18:35 |
| mattva01 | aelkner_: ping | 18:39 |
| aelkner_ | you've read it all already? | 18:39 |
| mattva01 | i read quickly | 18:41 |
| aelkner_ | ok | 18:42 |
| aelkner_ | so for starters, what user are you, root? | 18:42 |
| mattva01 | well I can be :) | 18:42 |
| aelkner_ | i think that would make it more straight forward | 18:43 |
| aelkner_ | becuase you see that you have to update the user's home directory | 18:43 |
| mattva01 | k i'm root | 18:43 |
| mattva01 | yeah | 18:43 |
| aelkner_ | so go ahead and follow the instructions that end with "This will take long, very long actually." | 18:44 |
| aelkner_ | that is actually true | 18:44 |
| aelkner_ | it will take a couple of hours | 18:44 |
| aelkner_ | so best to get started right away | 18:45 |
| mattva01 | checking out into root's home directory, is that how you guys are planning to do things? | 18:46 |
| mattva01 | oh well its just for devlopment | 18:47 |
| aelkner_ | i don't know. this is all ignas gave us | 18:54 |
| ignas | emm | 18:54 |
| ignas | really | 18:54 |
| ignas | i have mentioned root? | 18:54 |
| ignas | as for the directory | 18:55 |
| ignas | i am using ~/schooltool_sandbox | 18:55 |
| ignas | as an example | 18:55 |
| aelkner_ | no you mentioned using the user directory | 18:55 |
| aelkner_ | and in his case, the user would best be root | 18:55 |
| ignas | well - i had to pick something | 18:55 |
| ignas | and why do you want the user to be root? | 18:55 |
| aelkner_ | what user user should he use? | 18:55 |
| ignas | any non-root user would be better in general | 18:56 |
| aelkner_ | this is not development | 18:56 |
| aelkner_ | he's deploying | 18:56 |
| ignas | i know | 18:56 |
| aelkner_ | at SLA i deployed using root | 18:56 |
| ignas | and it's a bad thing | 18:56 |
| aelkner_ | and a better thing would be? | 18:57 |
| ignas | running it as a user | 18:57 |
| aelkner_ | /etc/init.d scripts run as root, don't they | 18:57 |
| ignas | any user that won't get your hard drive erased if someone finds a glaring security hole in Zope3 | 18:57 |
| ignas | they start as Root | 18:57 |
| ignas | and then change user to some other | 18:58 |
| ignas | schooltool for example runs as a user "schooltool" on ubuntu | 18:58 |
| ignas | apache starts as root | 18:58 |
| ignas | but all the threads run as www-data | 18:58 |
| ignas | trac runs as user "trac" | 18:58 |
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| * ignas always consults with jinty, alga or mgedmin for these issues | 18:58 | |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: i recommend consulting with ignas then | 18:59 |
| mattva01 | kk | 18:59 |
| aelkner_ | ignas: matt is deploying jelkner2007 | 18:59 |
| aelkner_ | and i want him to use the branches | 19:00 |
| ignas | oh, why? | 19:00 |
| aelkner_ | of all the packages | 19:00 |
| aelkner_ | so that when i change something | 19:00 |
| aelkner_ | i don't have to wait for you to merge it and build the egg | 19:00 |
| ignas | i see | 19:00 |
| ignas | and can you give us a list of these branches? | 19:00 |
| aelkner_ | i'm going from your help page | 19:01 |
| aelkner_ | if matt follows those instructions | 19:01 |
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| aelkner_ | he will have the branches | 19:01 |
| ignas | yes | 19:01 |
| aelkner_ | then if i make a change | 19:01 |
| ignas | he will do what? | 19:01 |
| aelkner_ | i can do that create prefix thing | 19:01 |
| ignas | yes | 19:01 |
| aelkner_ | and he can do the bind thing | 19:01 |
| ignas | i think he can do bind thing with ligtweight checkouts too | 19:01 |
| aelkner_ | so ho should still follow the instructions for creatng the branches except | 19:03 |
| aelkner_ | he should add the lightwieght part | 19:03 |
| aelkner_ | right? | 19:03 |
| ignas | i will try to find out what's the setup | 19:03 |
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| aelkner_ | ignas: i'm not sure what's going on here | 19:25 |
| aelkner_ | we need to get matt set up with schooltool via bzr | 19:26 |
| ignas | yes | 19:26 |
| aelkner_ | so are we waiting for you to find out what's the setup? | 19:27 |
| ignas | i have talked to him and we I am waiting for him to check the stuff out, apparently mattva01 has used bzr before | 19:28 |
| aelkner_ | you are private chatting? | 19:28 |
| ignas | and if you know how to use bzr schooltool is not doing anything extraordinary | 19:28 |
| ignas | yes | 19:28 |
| aelkner_ | why? | 19:29 |
| aelkner_ | i need to know what you guys are doing | 19:29 |
| aelkner_ | jeff calls me, ot you when he needs things | 19:29 |
| ignas | hmm, because when you told mattva01 to ask me about these things | 19:29 |
| ignas | he asked me | 19:29 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: why did you priovate chat? | 19:29 |
| ignas | and i have found out that he knows them already | 19:29 |
| aelkner_ | we need mindshare on this | 19:30 |
| aelkner_ | desparately | 19:30 |
| ignas | there was pretty much no information exchanged | 19:30 |
| ignas | i only told him that he will have to checkout jelkner2007 bit | 19:30 |
| ignas | and fix the makefile | 19:30 |
| aelkner_ | so you're instucting him to only check out jelkner2007 and change its makefile | 19:31 |
| ignas | no | 19:31 |
| ignas | he will make a full checkout | 19:31 |
| ignas | *and* checkout jelkner2007 | 19:31 |
| aelkner_ | ok, that's what we need | 19:31 |
| mattva01 | heh ok | 19:33 |
| aelkner_ | mattva01: so you're using the lightweight option? | 19:33 |
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