| jinty | schooltool-2007 just needs to be re-built | 00:01 |
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| jinty | ignas: re package deps, I think you won't like the solution | 00:02 |
| jinty | which is to run the tests of all packages with only the package and it's dependencies installed | 00:02 |
| jinty | in a buildbot like environment | 00:03 |
| jinty | I tried to include the relevant metadata for autopkgtest in the packages | 00:03 |
| jinty | autopkgtest is a test runner for debian packages | 00:03 |
| ignas | i see | 00:04 |
| jinty | but havn't bothered to see if it really works | 00:04 |
| * jinty re-uplaods schooltool-2007 | 00:04 | |
| ignas | thanks | 00:04 |
| ignas | schooltool.stapp2008spring works | 00:04 |
| ignas | so you can build schooltool-2008spring or something like that whenever you feel like it | 00:05 |
| jinty | ignas: er, more or less leaving that up to you | 00:06 |
| jinty | you're gonna have to do it for lyceum and cando (probably) | 00:07 |
| ignas | Ok | 00:07 |
| jinty | really, it's very simple | 00:08 |
| jinty | more or less apt-get source | 00:08 |
| jinty | then replace lot's of schooltool-2007's | 00:08 |
| jinty | gotta go~ | 00:09 |
| jinty | hasta luego, and good luck! | 00:09 |
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| Lumiere | hi mattva01, aelkner | 02:52 |
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| Lumiere | hi fsufitch | 02:58 |
| Lumiere | hi nitromaster | 02:58 |
| nitromaster | hi | 02:58 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: howdy | 02:58 |
| Lumiere | First order of business... Lets Go Caps!!!!111!1!eleven1! | 02:59 |
| Lumiere | :) | 02:59 |
| Lumiere | and you got 2 minutes | 02:59 |
| Lumiere | to prepare yourselves | 02:59 |
| fsufitch | caps? | 02:59 |
| fsufitch | u mean as in | 02:59 |
| Lumiere | hockey | 02:59 |
| fsufitch | CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL | 02:59 |
| Lumiere | game 6 playoffs | 02:59 |
| Lumiere | lol | 02:59 |
| fsufitch | :-P | 03:00 |
| fsufitch | oh ok | 03:00 |
| fsufitch | i dont follow any sports, so meh | 03:00 |
| Lumiere | ah | 03:00 |
| Lumiere | ok | 03:00 |
| Lumiere | Who wants to start? | 03:01 |
| Lumiere | fsufitch: I choose yoou! <_< | 03:02 |
| fsufitch | huh? | 03:02 |
| fsufitch | um | 03:02 |
| fsufitch | pika! | 03:03 |
| fsufitch | well i havent actually been doing much candowise... | 03:03 |
| fsufitch | srry :-/ | 03:03 |
| Lumiere | still on AP? | 03:03 |
| fsufitch | yup | 03:03 |
| fsufitch | my aps are on may 5 and 9 | 03:03 |
| Lumiere | nitromaster: you? | 03:03 |
| fsufitch | er | 03:03 |
| fsufitch | 7 and 9 | 03:03 |
| Lumiere | ok | 03:03 |
| Lumiere | so you'll be readyish right before eldar | 03:03 |
| nitromaster | i haven't been doing any work -- too much school stuff | 03:04 |
| Lumiere | AP for you too? | 03:04 |
| nitromaster | yep | 03:04 |
| Lumiere | kk | 03:04 |
| Lumiere | your aps are on? | 03:04 |
| nitromaster | pretty much the same dates | 03:05 |
| Lumiere | ok | 03:05 |
| Lumiere | so, there will be a meeting next monday | 03:05 |
| Lumiere | but not one the meeting AFTER that | 03:05 |
| Lumiere | you should try and chat | 03:05 |
| Lumiere | I am gone May 1-6 | 03:06 |
| Lumiere | and with that... your 30 minutes of painlessness are up... | 03:06 |
| Lumiere | good luck on APs | 03:06 |
| fsufitch | :-P thx | 03:07 |
| nitromaster | thanks | 03:08 |
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| th1a | ignas: Should I try the schooltool 2008 package for gutsy? | 16:20 |
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| ignas | th1a: you can | 17:04 |
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| ignas | th1a: it's not working probably, i have just uploaded python-z3c which should fix it | 17:35 |
| ignas | th1a: schooltool-2008 should be working properly on gutsy now | 18:51 |
| th1a | ignas: OK, I | 18:51 |
| th1a | will give it a shot. | 18:51 |
| ignas | sudo apt-get update first though ;) | 18:51 |
| th1a | setting up... | 18:55 |
| th1a | It is an impressive list of stuff. | 18:55 |
| th1a | So is this using 2.5 or 2.4? | 18:55 |
| ignas | 2.4 | 18:55 |
| ignas | python-zope.app.pagetemplate depends on python-restrictedpython | 18:56 |
| th1a | SUCCESS! | 18:56 |
| ignas | :D | 18:56 |
| ignas | i could make it run on hardy already, but i'll do some tests and fixes first | 18:56 |
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| th1a | Yes. | 18:57 |
| th1a | I'd like to get a few more tweaks in. | 18:57 |
| th1a | ignas: So what web server is this using? | 18:59 |
| ignas | zope.server | 19:00 |
| ignas | paste as a glue | 19:00 |
| th1a | Through wsgi? | 19:00 |
| th1a | Paste is gluing what to what? | 19:01 |
| ignas | schooltool application to zope.server server | 19:02 |
| ignas | schooltool wsgi application | 19:02 |
| th1a | So at this point an admin could switch that to Apache and mod_wsgi? | 19:02 |
| ignas | yes, if mod_wsgi was working on ubuntu | 19:03 |
| th1a | Ah. It isn't, I guess? | 19:03 |
| ignas | no, the source packages are only available for debian | 19:04 |
| ignas | and on ubuntu gutsy they go into a chain of segfaults | 19:04 |
| ignas | at least they did on my machine | 19:04 |
| ignas | if mod_wsgi was working, we would have probably released schooltool using mod_wsgi | 19:04 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:04 |
| th1a | Then SSL could be handled completely separately from us. | 19:05 |
| th1a | Right? | 19:05 |
| th1a | Just Apache configuration. | 19:05 |
| ignas | we can't handle ssl at the moment i think (not 100% sure), but i know that a rewrite rule in apache | 19:05 |
| ignas | can add sll on top of schooltool | 19:05 |
| ignas | because lyceum schooltool is available under https | 19:06 |
| ignas | and it's all handled by apache | 19:06 |
| th1a | Right. | 19:06 |
| Lumiere | or proxypassing can do ssl | 19:14 |
| Lumiere | *poofs away again* | 19:14 |
| th1a | I'm just wondering if it can be done even more cleanly if it is all internal to Apache. | 19:15 |
| Lumiere | the difference would be negligible to the sysadmin for setup | 19:22 |
| Lumiere | but it wouldn't crash as much | 19:22 |
| Lumiere | because there is not zope webserver step | 19:22 |
| th1a | That would be good. | 19:22 |
| Lumiere | it goes directly from apache to the app | 19:23 |
| ignas | Lumiere: well - zope webserver step is replaced with mod_wsgi step | 19:25 |
| ignas | and i am not sure which one is more reliable actually | 19:25 |
| ignas | benefits are - people are better at configuring apache tan at configuring zope.server on average | 19:26 |
| Lumiere | ignas: the wsgi step is built into apache | 19:27 |
| Lumiere | and although I haven't looked into it | 19:27 |
| ignas | that is not making it any more stable | 19:27 |
| ignas | or good ;) | 19:27 |
| Lumiere | I would assume it isn't any less difficult to configure then mod_svn | 19:27 |
| ignas | or immune to segfaults | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | ignas: obviousally :) | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | ignas: but it won't go into production here | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | till I burn it in | 19:28 |
| ignas | :) | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | and know there won't be segfaults | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | anyways | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | I am off to my other office | 19:28 |
| Lumiere | bbiab | 19:28 |
| ignas | as soon as I'll get my hands on mod_wsgi | 19:28 |
| ignas | that works on my machine | 19:29 |
| ignas | making schooltool work with it | 19:29 |
| ignas | will be quite straightforward | 19:29 |
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| th1a | Down the road I think Deliverance could be very useful middleware for SchoolTool. | 19:48 |
| th1a | To theme SchoolTool to match other applications. | 19:48 |
| th1a | Match the school website. | 19:48 |
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| th1a | ignas: How do I turn devmode on with the .deb? | 19:51 |
| ignas | edit /etc/schooltool/schooltool-2008/main.conf | 19:51 |
| ignas | and do sudo /etc/init.d/schooltool-2008 restart | 19:52 |
| th1a | OK. | 19:53 |
| ignas | th1a: devmode just got yellow on trunk ;) | 20:09 |
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| ignas | th1a: i will break release for a couple of hours or so, and pray that i can get it back to working, because I must fix 2 packages that are broken | 20:29 |
| th1a_ | ignas: OK. | 20:41 |
| th1a | ignas: Are you going to try to get rid of the devmode menu before the release? | 20:46 |
| ignas | it's gone | 20:46 |
| ignas | in trunk | 20:46 |
| th1a | Ah, good. | 20:46 |
| ignas | will start working on the last serious bug now | 20:47 |
| ignas | the overlay list | 20:47 |
| th1a | OK. | 20:49 |
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| aelkner | ignas: ayt? | 22:20 |
| ignas | aelkner: yes | 22:20 |
| aelkner | could you ping me again please? | 22:21 |
| ignas | aelkner: mm? | 22:21 |
| aelkner | that wasn't my queston, but thanks | 22:21 |
| aelkner | my question is: | 22:22 |
| aelkner | could I please add a property to BasicPerson to get the full name? | 22:22 |
| aelkner | title is last name first | 22:22 |
| aelkner | which is hardly ever what i'd want to see on a form | 22:23 |
| ignas | hmm, | 22:23 |
| ignas | not sure now | 22:23 |
| ignas | will have to think about it | 22:23 |
| ignas | i think this should be customizable or depend on i18n | 22:23 |
| ignas | because in lithuania all the sorting orders for example must be "by last_name, then by first name" | 22:24 |
| ignas | because last_name is more unique | 22:24 |
| aelkner | title already does that | 22:24 |
| aelkner | all i need to do is add a property called full_name | 22:24 |
| ignas | why? and where? | 22:24 |
| aelkner | why what? | 22:24 |
| ignas | why do you need that properly | 22:25 |
| ignas | property | 22:25 |
| ignas | as in why can't you just concatenate both of them | 22:25 |
| aelkner | all over the place i need to display the operson's full name | 22:25 |
| aelkner | why should i have to have that messy string:$blahblabh synteax in all my views | 22:26 |
| aelkner | a better question would be: | 22:26 |
| aelkner | why is it ok for title to work the way lithuania needs it to do | 22:26 |
| aelkner | and not have a full_name arg available | 22:26 |
| ignas | hmm, i'll have to think about it, sorry | 22:27 |
| ignas | have to go now | 22:27 |
| aelkner | ok | 22:28 |
| ignas | see you tomorrow or today, but later | 22:28 |
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| th1a | aelkner: I'd think we'd just want a bunch of convenience methods to return various configurations of name strings. | 22:38 |
| aelkner | th1a: we can have as many of them as we like, but i only need full_name | 22:39 |
| aelkner | and it would be the opposite of title | 22:39 |
| aelkner | you can look at schooltol.basicperson.person to see what i mean | 22:39 |
| aelkner | about title that is | 22:40 |
| th1a | I know what you mean. | 22:40 |
| aelkner | question about ubunutu | 22:40 |
| aelkner | my speaker is muted | 22:40 |
| aelkner | i right-click on it and try to unmute it but it doesn't work | 22:40 |
| aelkner | have you ever seen this? | 22:40 |
| th1a | Does your sound work at all? | 22:41 |
| aelkner | ping me | 22:41 |
| th1a | aelkner? | 22:41 |
| aelkner | i headed the bell , but real faintly | 22:41 |
| th1a | I don't know. | 22:41 |
| aelkner | oh, duh | 22:42 |
| aelkner | i interpreted the volume control upside-down | 22:43 |
| th1a | Up is down. | 22:43 |
| aelkner | that makes sense :) | 22:43 |
| aelkner | so i had it all the way down at one point | 22:43 |
| aelkner | and it caused the mute attribute to be set | 22:44 |
| aelkner | lesson learned | 22:44 |
| aelkner | th1a: i see you're changing some action items | 23:22 |
| aelkner | aren't you breaking tests in the process? | 23:22 |
| aelkner | i don't see any chages to tests in your checkins | 23:23 |
| aelkner | i noticed that the buildbot is failing on functional tests | 23:23 |
| aelkner | i bet that's you're doing :) | 23:23 |
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