| lisppaste5 | ignas pasted "code to split a list of sections into a list of terms" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/57602 | 00:00 |
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| fsufitch | pcardune: ping | 00:00 |
| pcardune | fsufitch: pong | 00:00 |
| fsufitch | ignas says i need a viewlet/viewletmanager show-around | 00:01 |
| fsufitch | my task is to viewlet-ify the menu things on the left of the calendar | 00:01 |
| pcardune | oh, ok | 00:01 |
| pcardune | I have to do something first | 00:01 |
| pcardune | give me like... 15 minutes | 00:01 |
| fsufitch | ok | 00:01 |
| fsufitch | are u coming over here or should i find u? | 00:01 |
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| pcardune | fsufitch: I'll come over there | 00:03 |
| fsufitch | ok | 00:03 |
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| Lumiere | hi mattva01, fsufitch | 19:31 |
| Lumiere | how goes guys | 19:31 |
| mattva01 | good | 19:32 |
| fsufitch | Lumiere: fine | 19:33 |
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| *** Lumiere changes topic to "SchoolTool development | Visit the SchoolTool Developer Team at PyCon! | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | SchoolTool Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (15:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | CanDo Dev meetings Mon, 2000 EST (Tuesday 0000 UTC, 0200 EET) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you!" | 19:36 | |
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| fsufitch | ccarey: could you poke ignas for me? | 19:39 |
| fsufitch | or is he still busy? | 19:39 |
| ccarey | he's still in deep discussion | 19:40 |
| ccarey | but when he's done | 19:40 |
| ccarey | i'll let him know | 19:40 |
| fsufitch | ccarey: is it lunch now? | 20:05 |
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| fsufitch | ignas: fyi i'm in the lobby place thing | 20:45 |
| fsufitch | if you need to find me physically | 20:45 |
| ignas | fsufitch: ok | 20:56 |
| fsufitch | ignas: do i get to svn up now? | 20:56 |
| fsufitch | and continue viewlet work? | 20:56 |
| ignas | fsufitch: still fixing unit tests that are failing | 20:56 |
| ignas | if you want to you can come over here | 20:56 |
| fsufitch | *sigh* | 20:56 |
| ignas | and help me with that | 20:56 |
| ignas | ;) | 20:56 |
| fsufitch | i need cell phone signal | 20:56 |
| ignas | oh | 20:56 |
| fsufitch | so i can't come downstairs | 20:56 |
| ignas | i see | 20:57 |
| fsufitch | ignas: you can tell me what to do/fix | 20:59 |
| ignas | a sec | 20:59 |
| ignas | only 2 tests failing now | 20:59 |
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| ignas | fsufitch: no unit tests failing, running full test run | 21:04 |
| ignas | and will commit | 21:05 |
| ignas | eldar: hi | 21:05 |
| fsufitch | ignas: w00t | 21:05 |
| eldar | ignas: 'ello | 21:05 |
| fsufitch | hello | 21:05 |
| Lumiere | hi eldar | 21:06 |
| eldar | hi Lumiere, fsufitch | 21:07 |
| eldar | just here early for a meeting w/ jeff | 21:08 |
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| ignas | fsufitch: commited | 21:15 |
| fsufitch | ignas: yay | 21:15 |
| mgedmin | ignas/jinty: something is not quite correct with the schooltool buildbot configuration -- the URLs it sends on failures are invalid | 21:27 |
| mgedmin | there's a missing path segment or something like that | 21:27 |
| ignas | seems so | 21:27 |
| ignas | it worked before | 21:27 |
| ignas | but now it's doing it wrong | 21:27 |
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| fsufitch | ignas: wingIDE is pretty impressive | 21:29 |
| ignas | i know | 21:29 |
| ignas | at least it looks like that | 21:29 |
| fsufitch | lol | 21:29 |
| ignas | how well does it work with schooltol? | 21:29 |
| fsufitch | i havent figured out how to make it recognize schooltool classes yet | 21:30 |
| fsufitch | but it recognizes all of zope | 21:30 |
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| fsufitch | ignas: hooray! | 21:32 |
| fsufitch | that was easy o.O | 21:32 |
| eldar | fsufitch: so what does wingIDE offer that you can't do with a regular editor? | 21:32 |
| wjohnsto | well | 21:32 |
| wjohnsto | for starters | 21:32 |
| eldar | cuz unless it can write code for me, i don't see any benefit | 21:32 |
| wjohnsto | you dont have to pay for other editors | 21:32 |
| jelkner | eldar: if you want a license i have one i can give you | 21:32 |
| fsufitch | eldar: it can write code for you | 21:32 |
| fsufitch | autocomplete :-P | 21:32 |
| ignas | eldar: context sensitive auto completion if configured properly | 21:33 |
| eldar | oh i see | 21:33 |
| wjohnsto | wingIDE is automatically better because it's not open source | 21:33 |
| eldar | jelkner: hey jeff :) | 21:33 |
| eldar | wjohnsto: orly? | 21:33 |
| wjohnsto | or at least that's what they want you to feel | 21:33 |
| wjohnsto | :P | 21:33 |
| ignas | eldar: the "configure the thing properly" is a bit more difficult though ;) | 21:33 |
| fsufitch | eldar: i think wjohnsto was being sarcastic | 21:33 |
| eldar | that coming from an open source developer | 21:33 |
| fsufitch | ignas: it actually has an ok starting config | 21:33 |
| fsufitch | i just needed to add ~/schooltool/src to its python path | 21:34 |
| ignas | fsufitch: does it know where your eggs are? | 21:34 |
| eldar | i see | 21:34 |
| ignas | the zope ones | 21:34 |
| ignas | and lyceum.journal | 21:34 |
| fsufitch | you mean like be able to access stuff like zope.interface.aslkjfsa;? | 21:34 |
| ignas | yeah | 21:34 |
| eldar | so it has full zpt support? | 21:34 |
| fsufitch | yup | 21:34 |
| fsufitch | it doesn't mess with zpt... | 21:34 |
| eldar | as in it'll recognize syntax inside tal statements | 21:34 |
| fsufitch | no it doesnt | 21:34 |
| fsufitch | that's their disclaimer about zope | 21:35 |
| eldar | oh poop | 21:35 |
| fsufitch | no DTML, PT, or ZCML checking | 21:35 |
| eldar | see if it were open source, someone would've written a plugin | 21:35 |
| fsufitch | lol | 21:35 |
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| eldar | jelkner: hey ayt? | 22:00 |
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| eldar | aelkner: hey alan, is jeff there? | 22:06 |
| aelkner | hey eldar. he's here. he may not always respond to chat as he is doing a lot of walking around to coordinate with people | 22:07 |
| aelkner | but you can try | 22:07 |
| eldar | i see, well we were supposed to meet around this time | 22:08 |
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| jelkner | eldar: | 22:18 |
| jelkner | pcardune is getting ready to leave | 22:18 |
| jelkner | i was talking to him | 22:19 |
| jelkner | i'm back | 22:19 |
| jelkner | Lumiere: u here? | 22:19 |
| jelkner | eldar: u here? | 22:19 |
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| eldar | jelkner: yep | 22:22 |
| jelkner | hi | 22:22 |
| jelkner | Lumiere doesn't seem to be here | 22:22 |
| jelkner | but i can just talk to you | 22:22 |
| eldar | ok | 22:23 |
| jelkner | th1a, aelkner, ignas and i spoke at length this morning | 22:23 |
| jelkner | here in brief, is the main issue: | 22:23 |
| jelkner | we need to get cando more integrated into schooltool | 22:24 |
| eldar | ok | 22:24 |
| jelkner | in such a way that the process does not require much of aelkner and ignas's time, since they need to focus on the schooltool release | 22:24 |
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| eldar | ok | 22:25 |
| jelkner | so ccarey, nitromaster, wjohnsto, and fsufitch are making much progress | 22:25 |
| jelkner | but they would need to be able to coordinate their work with you | 22:25 |
| wjohnsto | **n't | 22:25 |
| wjohnsto | :D | 22:25 |
| aelkner | jelkner: you mislead eldar to believe the progress is being made on cando | 22:26 |
| aelkner | they are working on the release | 22:26 |
| aelkner | of schooltool | 22:26 |
| jelkner | i mean they are making progress learning how to hack schooltool | 22:26 |
| eldar | ok | 22:27 |
| jelkner | but that when we do cando stuff, they would need to lean on eldar and not you and ignas | 22:27 |
| eldar | i see | 22:27 |
| eldar | so we have till april 24th | 22:27 |
| eldar | now, what is it specifically that needs to be done | 22:27 |
| ignas | eldar: as schooltool now has it's own tabs | 22:27 |
| jelkner | actually, it is unreasonable for us to have cando ready | 22:27 |
| jelkner | by then | 22:27 |
| jelkner | so we have longer | 22:27 |
| fsufitch | cando is simpler than schooltool though | 22:28 |
| fsufitch | schooltool is much more massive | 22:28 |
| fsufitch | i may just be stating the obvious though | 22:28 |
| jelkner | eldar: do you feel like you could take charge of an effort to move cando integration? | 22:29 |
| jelkner | aelkner and ignas could can tell you what needs to be done | 22:29 |
| eldar | yes, but i wish you'd define "cando integration" for me | 22:29 |
| jelkner | aelkner, ignas: can you help here? | 22:30 |
| eldar | do we have specs written up? | 22:30 |
| jelkner | eldar: let me walk down the hall so i can ask in person... | 22:30 |
| eldar | ok | 22:30 |
| fsufitch | eldar: i dont believe there are any written specs, but basically cando needs to be to schooltool what schoolbell is to schooltool right now | 22:31 |
| fsufitch | or something similar | 22:31 |
| fsufitch | the user shouldn't be able to say "I'm using CanDo" | 22:31 |
| fsufitch | they should say "I'm using SchoolTool competencies" | 22:31 |
| eldar | yeah i get the idea in abstarct | 22:31 |
| eldar | but unless we have clear cut outlined goals | 22:32 |
| eldar | we're not getting anywhere | 22:32 |
| fsufitch | i'm not in the position to set those goals >_> | 22:32 |
| aelkner | so, what we'll need to do is to handle this integration in steos | 22:33 |
| fsufitch | and i assume jelkner is talking to the others right now | 22:33 |
| aelkner | no he's here | 22:33 |
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| fsufitch | aelkner: that's what i meant | 22:33 |
| fsufitch | _i_'m not there | 22:34 |
| aelkner | fsufitch: shh | 22:34 |
| aelkner | ignas said that the first step will be to remove the newskin | 22:34 |
| aelkner | and to make cando be a tab off of the main interface | 22:35 |
| aelkner | that step might not result in cando looking as nice as it does now | 22:35 |
| aelkner | but it will be an important step in getting them integrated | 22:35 |
| aelkner | we don't need to use the annoying ++skin__NewCanDo | 22:35 |
| aelkner | rather, we can create a cando layer and the cando skin can inherit from it AND the other schooltool layers | 22:36 |
| eldar | i see | 22:37 |
| ignas | eldar: i will be able to help you with the technical details | 22:37 |
| eldar | ignas: thanks | 22:38 |
| eldar | so skin change, what else? | 22:38 |
| aelkner | after that is done, you can evaluate what the UI has and decide with dwelsh what should change | 22:39 |
| eldar | from what I understand the changes are mainly cosmetic? | 22:40 |
| jelkner | eldar: the important thing i want to make sure is clear is the process | 22:40 |
| jelkner | you talk to ignas, but everyone else talks to you | 22:40 |
| jelkner | we need to manage the time that this takes ignas (to minimize it) | 22:41 |
| jelkner | that is a crucial goal | 22:41 |
| eldar | i see | 22:41 |
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| eldar | ignas: alright so first I guess the first thing NoVa kids and I should do, as mentioned earlier, is do away with newskin, and move into the tab system that schooltool uses. | 22:52 |
| ignas | yep | 22:53 |
| ignas | and move some of the top level tabs | 22:53 |
| ignas | into a "manage" menu | 22:53 |
| ignas | that is under a manage tab | 22:53 |
| ignas | visible to schooltool.manager only | 22:54 |
| eldar | ok | 22:54 |
| ignas | as for the integration | 22:54 |
| ignas | are you gong to work on it now | 22:54 |
| ignas | or like - in a week | 22:54 |
| ignas | in a month | 22:54 |
| ignas | tomorrow ? ;) | 22:54 |
| eldar | starting this weekend | 22:54 |
| eldar | I can't do much during weekdays, only talk | 22:55 |
| ignas | we should arrange a meeting time for that | 22:55 |
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| ignas | because now we are sprinting and I don't have the time to explain everything in detail | 22:55 |
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| eldar | yes, so when would be the most convenient time for you during the week, to give me a bit of your time for questions and other stuff? | 22:55 |
| eldar | ccarey, wjohnsto, fsufitch, and nitromaster (i know he's not on right now) | 22:58 |
| wjohnsto | yes? | 22:58 |
| eldar | for convenience's sake, from now on we're team "Integration" | 22:58 |
| eldar | we need to find time this week when we can all meet | 22:59 |
| eldar | and establish the workflow, and figure out the details | 22:59 |
| eldar | of how we're going to do this | 22:59 |
| ignas | eldar: i don't have to see that ;) | 22:59 |
| ignas | eldar: i will only be helping you with the technical stuff ;) | 22:59 |
| ignas | eldar: hopefully ;) | 22:59 |
| wjohnsto | ignas: do you know how to tie a shoe? | 22:59 |
| ignas | eldar: anyway - what timezone are you in? | 22:59 |
| eldar | yeah, i know. i guess i should make a separate channel | 22:59 |
| eldar | ignas: eastern, -5 | 23:00 |
| eldar | but i'm a college student, so i'm pretty flexible | 23:00 |
| eldar | except during class time | 23:00 |
| ccarey | the times i'm not available are thursday nights, and monday/wednesday nights before 8:00 | 23:00 |
| ignas | eldar: so i guess saturday some time that is 11pm for me, which is around 4 pm for you | 23:00 |
| wjohnsto | I'm not available monday, wednesday, thursday | 23:00 |
| eldar | ccarey, fsufitch, and wjohnsto please come to #integration | 23:00 |
| eldar | ignas: ok i'll mart that on my calendar | 23:01 |
| ignas | eldar: i'll be able to spend quite some time to explain you what will you have to do | 23:01 |
| ignas | to reduce the mess | 23:01 |
| eldar | ignas: alright, thanks :-D | 23:01 |
| ignas | eldar: hope you know what viewlets are ;) | 23:02 |
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| eldar | ignas: so Saturday, March 22nd, 11PM your time | 23:02 |
| ignas | yep | 23:02 |
| ignas | now it's 11 pm my time | 23:03 |
| ignas | so yeah, i guess it's 4 pm your time | 23:03 |
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| eldar | ok, that's 5PM my time, but yeah works all the same | 23:03 |
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| fsufitch | ignas: ping | 23:47 |
| ignas | fsufitch: pong | 23:47 |
| fsufitch | i made the "tomorrow's events" be a viewlet | 23:47 |
| wjohnsto | ping! | 23:47 |
| fsufitch | took me a little... | 23:47 |
| fsufitch | meh | 23:47 |
| fsufitch | now i'm sure of how to do it :) | 23:47 |
| ignas | :) | 23:47 |
| fsufitch | ignas: wait, do i have to register it separately for the timetables skin? | 23:48 |
| ignas | no | 23:49 |
| ignas | just the schooltool layer | 23:49 |
| fsufitch | ok | 23:49 |
| fsufitch | then i'm done | 23:49 |
| fsufitch | now, for the legend for yearly | 23:49 |
| ignas | good :) | 23:49 |
| fsufitch | THAT's in timetables | 23:49 |
| ignas | yep | 23:49 |
| fsufitch | btw, i created a class called CalendarViewletBase on top of CalendarViewBase | 23:50 |
| fsufitch | to make this work | 23:50 |
| fsufitch | and, well, it works, but i feel it's very hackish | 23:50 |
| fsufitch | would it have been allright to just add implements(IViewlet) to CalendarViewBase? | 23:51 |
| fsufitch | ignas: ping | 23:52 |
| fsufitch | actually, wait this is necessary | 23:52 |
| fsufitch | nvm | 23:52 |
| ignas | no, not really | 23:55 |
| ignas | no it's not ;) | 23:55 |
| ignas | fsufitch: if you need any information from the view | 23:56 |
| ignas | you can access the view through the viewlet | 23:56 |
| ignas | view/__parent__/__poarent__ or something like that | 23:56 |
| fsufitch | uhh | 23:56 |
| ignas | can't recall now | 23:56 |
| fsufitch | hmm | 23:56 |
| fsufitch | so making the viewlet extend the view was a bad idea? | 23:56 |
| ignas | yes, i would say so | 23:59 |
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