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| th1a_ | Hi jelkner. | 16:04 |
| th1a_ | Did aelkner talk to you about reports? | 16:04 |
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| jelkner | th1a_: i'm doing grades | 16:06 |
| jelkner | i won't be up for air until tomorrow evening... | 16:06 |
| jelkner | i'll want to talk to him as soon as i can | 16:07 |
| th1a_ | jelkner: He's got some time and I'd like him to do as much as what you're going to need for the rest of the year now. | 16:16 |
| jelkner | th1a_: great! i'll follow up with this after i finish 1st quarter grades | 16:25 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: is today a teacher work day? | 16:26 |
| jelkner | Lumiere: tomorrow | 16:27 |
| Lumiere | a tuesday teacher workday? | 16:27 |
| Lumiere | so they gotta come to class today | 16:28 |
| Lumiere | then off for election day? | 16:28 |
| Lumiere | weirrrrd | 16:28 |
| aelkner | hello all | 16:28 |
| Lumiere | hi more elkners | 16:28 |
| th1a_ | hi jfroche, aelkner, ignas, Lumiere. | 16:31 |
| aelkner | hey tom | 16:31 |
| th1a_ | I seem to have brought jfroche's cold back from Belgium. | 16:32 |
| th1a_ | I will now spread it throughout the northeast US. | 16:32 |
| th1a_ | Hm... now we don't seem to have ignas and jfroche. | 16:35 |
| * th1a_ goes to get my notes from the trip. | 16:36 | |
| Lumiere | th1a_: sounds like fun | 16:37 |
| th1a_ | OK... ignas and I worked on an updated roadmap. | 16:37 |
| th1a_ | Longer term roadmap. | 16:38 |
| Lumiere | is there a link | 16:38 |
| th1a_ | Working backwards... Hardy+2, the April 2009 release will be SchoolTool "1.0" | 16:38 |
| th1a_ | Meaning, some reasonable subset of schools will be able to apt-get install schooltool and have a default configuration of SchoolTool which is useful. | 16:39 |
| th1a_ | With documentation for using it. | 16:39 |
| th1a_ | That is, demographics/gradebook/attendance/calendaring/resource booking and reporting the above. | 16:40 |
| Lumiere | ok | 16:40 |
| th1a_ | It certainly won't work for everyone, but it will be a recognizably complete student information system. | 16:40 |
| th1a_ | For Hardy, the goals are: | 16:41 |
| th1a_ | Dealing with terms and the passage of time, hiding last term's data, etc. | 16:41 |
| th1a_ | That's the big hairy one. | 16:42 |
| th1a_ | SchoolTool gradebook in the core release. | 16:42 |
| th1a_ | Stable packages for Zope 3.4 and other dependencies (a lot of work is finally being done on that, actually by srichter). | 16:42 |
| th1a_ | (for his own needs) | 16:43 |
| th1a_ | So the Zope release situation is finally looking less disastrous. | 16:43 |
| th1a_ | Things which are hovering between Hardy and Hardy+1 are LDAP and CAS support integrated into trunk. | 16:44 |
| Lumiere | yay | 16:44 |
| th1a_ | And converting the Lyceum journal into the default attendance module in trunk. | 16:44 |
| Lumiere | CAS? | 16:44 |
| th1a_ | In terms of attendance, we're going to explicitly target section attendance, not the whole-day legal attendance necessary in US schools. | 16:45 |
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| Lumiere | is there any discussion of SIF integration as well? | 16:45 |
| Lumiere | th1a_: whole-day attendance could be a report | 16:45 |
| Lumiere | generated by section attendances | 16:45 |
| th1a_ | Well, I think we need to avoid all the LEGAL stuff around excused/unexcused attendance for the day. | 16:45 |
| Lumiere | yea | 16:46 |
| th1a_ | It is a hairball, and I don't anticipate having a client who will be using it next year. | 16:46 |
| Lumiere | th1a_: what is CAS, and are there any SIF plans? | 16:46 |
| th1a_ | CAS is a single sign on system. | 16:46 |
| th1a_ | So you log into CAS and you're logged into SchoolTool, Moodle, etc. | 16:47 |
| th1a_ | This would replace one of the obvious SIF use cases. | 16:47 |
| Lumiere | ok | 16:47 |
| th1a_ | I'm running out of SIF enthusiasm, so something would have to happen to give it a good push. | 16:48 |
| jfroche | th1a_: so sorry for the cold ;) | 16:49 |
| th1a_ | jfroche: I'll get over it. | 16:50 |
| jfroche | i begin to recorver myself | 16:50 |
| th1a_ | Also, I could have gotten it on one of the three planes I sat in on Saturday. | 16:50 |
| th1a_ | The 8 hour flight across the Atlantic was pretty miserable. | 16:50 |
| th1a_ | My seat wouldn't recline. | 16:50 |
| th1a_ | But I got a massage in the Philly airport, and that helped quite a bit. | 16:51 |
| th1a_ | Anyhow... | 16:51 |
| th1a_ | I visited the Lyceum and the teachers in the computer science dept. Ignas has been working with. | 16:51 |
| ignas | th1a_: i am here, got my attention pulled off | 16:52 |
| ignas | sorry | 16:52 |
| th1a_ | We're a little behind there, but at least we're behind in the "ok, now we see what we need to do to make the beginning of school work" sense. | 16:52 |
| th1a_ | We learned something -- that we have to be able to juggle section enrollments, in particular without losing attendance data while doing it. | 16:53 |
| th1a_ | The main thing I tried to push there is getting Ignas to visit the school weekly. | 16:54 |
| th1a_ | ignas: Tuesday afternoons? | 16:54 |
| ignas | yes | 16:54 |
| ignas | tuesday afternoons | 16:54 |
| ignas | by the way - i fixed an IE7 related bug in trunk, so i think i will backport it to release as soon as i can | 16:55 |
| th1a_ | Good. | 16:55 |
| th1a_ | We've got Feisty/Gutsy packages almost working. | 16:55 |
| th1a_ | In PPA. | 16:55 |
| ignas | the portlets were not working, because of a bug in IE7 :/ | 16:55 |
| th1a_ | Ah, when did you discover that? | 16:56 |
| ignas | hmm, friday i think | 16:56 |
| ignas | as soon as i installed all the debug tools for IE | 16:57 |
| ignas | i mean - it's the bug Lyceum reported | 16:57 |
| th1a_ | So what's the problem? | 16:57 |
| th1a_ | Ah. | 16:57 |
| ignas | but it took some time for me to find the cause | 16:57 |
| ignas | i assumed it was javascript | 16:57 |
| ignas | but apparently - some floats affect rendering in such a way | 16:57 |
| ignas | that does not allow you to click on anything | 16:57 |
| ignas | links/text | 16:57 |
| ignas | in the area | 16:57 |
| ignas | which was disabling the whole portlet area | 16:58 |
| ignas | so i think this fix should be backported to release too | 16:58 |
| th1a_ | I'd agree. | 16:59 |
| th1a_ | So it was a pretty easy fix? | 16:59 |
| ignas | yes | 16:59 |
| ignas | kind of | 16:59 |
| ignas | luck basicaly | 16:59 |
| th1a_ | I'll take it. | 16:59 |
| ignas | i have noticed that the image at the top of the portlets *is* working properly | 17:00 |
| th1a_ | One thing ignas worked on that Lumiere may appreciate is making bug reports to LaunchPad directly from SchoolTool, using Launchpad web services. | 17:00 |
| ignas | and that helped me to find the workaround | 17:00 |
| th1a_ | One other problem with the packages is that the Zope3 package seems to be stuck in an endless loop of reinstallation. | 17:02 |
| th1a_ | It constantly prompts you to update it with the same version. | 17:02 |
| ignas | yes, i can always see the icon down there | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | yesssssss please! | 17:03 |
| th1a_ | So I need to figure out what's up with that, or get jinty to figure it out. | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | bug reports that are easy for teachers | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | please | 17:03 |
| th1a_ | I think it will be a big help, although we'll need to do a lot of triaging. | 17:04 |
| th1a_ | ignas: Anything else we need to mention from Vilnius? | 17:04 |
| ignas | Lumiere: but don't they like the "Is your bug a duplicate" form? ;) | 17:04 |
| ignas | th1a_: well - i have fixed a couple of small bugs with journal | 17:04 |
| ignas | and now will be thinking about redirects for events | 17:04 |
| ignas | because that one is tricky apparently | 17:05 |
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| mattva01 | ok whats the issue | 17:05 |
| aelkner | mattva01: we're not discussing jeff's bug here. that was private chat | 17:06 |
| th1a_ | mattva01: With the zope3 package? | 17:06 |
| mattva01 | oh | 17:06 |
| mattva01 | no not that tom | 17:06 |
| aelkner | go ahead and private chat me | 17:06 |
| Lumiere | hi mattva01 where's my package ^^ | 17:07 |
| th1a_ | mattva01: If you want, you could check to see why the zope3 package keeps trying to update itself with the same version: https://edge.launchpad.net/~schooltool-owners/+archive?name_filter=zope3 | 17:08 |
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| mattva01 | you'll have it by tonight or by tuesday afternoon(depending on whether I have to rake leaves) | 17:08 |
| th1a | OK. Moving on to Belgium. | 17:08 |
| Lumiere | brb | 17:09 |
| th1a | jfroche and I arrived at Waterloo as the gift shop was closing, and the battlefield was socked in with fog. | 17:09 |
| jfroche | :) | 17:09 |
| th1a | So I didn't see much, and I'm mad I didn't stick 2 euros in the machine in the gift shop entrance to get my little "I was a Waterloo" coin. | 17:09 |
| jfroche | still can go & fetch one for you ;) | 17:10 |
| th1a | In other news, jfroche and I agreed that the partnership with the school in Brussels hasn't really taken. | 17:10 |
| th1a | And it is probably best to let that drop. | 17:11 |
| th1a | We just didn't have enough push from the school itself. | 17:11 |
| jfroche | i still need to tell them but i don't think they will be sad learning this | 17:11 |
| th1a | They weren't really committed. | 17:11 |
| th1a | Luckily, I don't think we'll have a situation in the future where we're just casting about for a school. | 17:12 |
| th1a | As we were a year ago. | 17:12 |
| th1a | So in the meantime, jfroche is going to do some more general work on SchoolTool. | 17:13 |
| th1a | We made up some blueprints to clean up the calendar views. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Particularly the week view, which has always sucked. | 17:13 |
| th1a | And the PDF views. | 17:13 |
| th1a | Which were done in the simplest way possible. | 17:14 |
| th1a | I think those are the main points from Belgium. | 17:15 |
| th1a | Anything else to add, jfroche? | 17:15 |
| jfroche | no that tasks can be assigned to me in blue print | 17:15 |
| jfroche | uhm in launchpad i mean | 17:15 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:17 |
| th1a | I also assigned a couple new blueprints to andrew rodriguez. | 17:17 |
| th1a | I have to see if he wants either of them so I can reassign them if he doesn't. | 17:17 |
| th1a | OK, lastly, aelkner needs some things to do. | 17:18 |
| aelkner | yeah | 17:18 |
| th1a | What did we pick yesterday, aelkner? | 17:19 |
| aelkner | we just looked at bugs | 17:19 |
| aelkner | i can't remember what else | 17:19 |
| th1a | Didn't we pick something? | 17:19 |
| aelkner | sooy, slipped my mind | 17:19 |
| th1a | Two old men talking on the phone. | 17:19 |
| th1a | Completely useless. | 17:19 |
| aelkner | speak for yourself :) | 17:20 |
| th1a | Didn't we decide one thing you were going to start working on? | 17:20 |
| aelkner | i believe you said we'll discuss it here | 17:20 |
| aelkner | and that was all | 17:20 |
| Lumiere | I think it was more that it was the weekend, and younger men forget everything over the weekend ^^ | 17:20 |
| th1a | *sigh* | 17:21 |
| aelkner | maybe ignas has a thought on something that could use doing | 17:21 |
| th1a | Didn't we decide one single thing you could do today until jelkner tells you what to do next? | 17:21 |
| aelkner | i was to discuss report cards with him | 17:21 |
| aelkner | maybe that was it | 17:22 |
| ignas | aelkner: hmm, what size of task, and how well specified do you want? | 17:22 |
| th1a | I remember. | 17:22 |
| aelkner | for now, how about you throw some ideas out there | 17:22 |
| th1a | Switching between sections in the gradebook. | 17:22 |
| aelkner | ah yes, the tabs | 17:22 |
| aelkner | and report cards | 17:23 |
| th1a | Beyond that, it sounds like jelkner will have more things for you by the time you've got that implemented. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | yeah. he already is reporting a gradebook bug that i'll need to look at. | 17:23 |
| th1a | also, could you update the "delivery" status of your blueprints? | 17:24 |
| aelkner | will do | 17:24 |
| th1a | OK. | 17:24 |
| aelkner | i still thinbk it wouldn't hurt to get me thinkinbg of some jind of task that i could do when jelkner's not responding to me for whatever reason | 17:24 |
| th1a | Let's see... I need October invoices from ignas & aelkner. | 17:25 |
| aelkner | will do | 17:25 |
| ignas | th1a: i'll tel Aiste about that | 17:25 |
| ignas | tell | 17:25 |
| th1a | aelkner: Probably jelkner will keep you busy until we shift you over to working with SLA. | 17:26 |
| th1a | Who will keep you busy, I venture. | 17:26 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:26 |
| aelkner | also there's cando work that needs doing | 17:26 |
| aelkner | i can put it at a low priority | 17:26 |
| aelkner | but if i get blocked by jeff being too busy, i could shoft to it | 17:27 |
| aelkner | shift | 17:27 |
| th1a | As we discussed yesterday, I just don't want you working on new CanDo features. | 17:27 |
| ignas | aelkner: if you will have some free time, i'd like you and jelkner to look at lyceum gradebook UI, and see if you could use it for section attendance | 17:27 |
| Lumiere | aelkner: don't let welsh hear that | 17:27 |
| Lumiere | (I am not telling him) | 17:27 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: it's not me. look at what tom just said | 17:27 |
| Lumiere | yea | 17:27 |
| aelkner | i think tom needs to let him know | 17:28 |
| th1a | I'm ok with CanDo bugfixes and report generation having higher priority. | 17:28 |
| Lumiere | I want to ensure that any single signon stuff will be able to be adopted by arlington at some point (I would like to have Schooltool for calendaring and reserving rooms) | 17:28 |
| ignas | Lumiere: i can help you with that | 17:28 |
| aelkner | Lumiere: of course any single-signon work will benefit cando | 17:28 |
| ignas | Lumiere: just talk to me some time, and i'll explain what CAS is about | 17:29 |
| th1a | Lumiere: Yes, we need more bugs and blueprints for calendaring and resource booking. | 17:29 |
| ignas | and what it can do for oyu | 17:29 |
| th1a | OK... that's our hour. | 17:30 |
| th1a | Any last words? | 17:30 |
| aelkner | i was innocent? | 17:30 |
| th1a | I'm feeling a lot better about SchoolTool than I have in a long time. | 17:30 |
| aelkner | ne last smoke? | 17:30 |
| th1a | There is a light at the end of the tunnel. | 17:30 |
| aelkner | a blindfold? | 17:30 |
| aelkner | go into the light | 17:31 |
| th1a | aelkner: Indeed. | 17:31 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:31 | |
| aelkner | ouch. you hit my foot | 17:31 |
| th1a | Oh, 14:30 UTC next week, too. | 17:31 |
| aelkner | is that 9:30 EST? | 17:31 |
| ignas | someone update the topic | 17:31 |
| th1a | aelkner: Yes. | 17:32 |
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| Lumiere | k | 17:35 |
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| *** Lumiere changes topic to "SchoolTool development | new trial release coming for Ubuntu Gutsy! | IRC logs at http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/ | Dev meetings Mon, 13:30 UTC (14:30 EET, 9:30 EST) | Use http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool for pasting | Write more unit and functional tests! Yes, you!" | 17:36 | |
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| Lumiere | oops | 17:36 |
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| ignas | Lumiere: emm 14:30 UTC i think | 17:41 |
| Lumiere | ok | 17:43 |
| ignas | and 16:30 EET | 17:43 |
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| aelkner | th1a: do i need to wait for you to assign me jeff's new bug, or should i assign myself | 18:09 |
| th1a | You can assign it to yourself. | 18:09 |
| aelkner | th1a: how do i mark a blueprint as having been deployed? | 18:23 |
| th1a | aelkner: Can you change status? (Actions) | 18:24 |
| aelkner | got it. thanks. | 18:25 |
| aelkner | th1a: jelkner's breadcrumbs blueprint should remain cause his point about login screens is well taken | 18:36 |
| aelkner | we need a new blueprint for the sction tabs for gradebook | 18:36 |
| aelkner | i'd be happy to create it myself, but how? | 18:36 |
| th1a | No, no, no. | 18:36 |
| th1a | Oh, | 18:37 |
| th1a | I mean, | 18:37 |
| aelkner | i'm glad you summarily dismiss me first, then think about it :) | 18:37 |
| th1a | Go to the main blueprints screen for schooltool and click on the "register a blueprint" button. | 18:37 |
| th1a | I was confused about how your two statements related. | 18:38 |
| th1a | Anyhow, the fact that he's getting a login screen is a problem with the section view, not the breadcrumb. | 18:38 |
| aelkner | i believe the login screen comes up only when he clicks on the sections (plural) breadcrumb as only administators have access to the container. | 18:42 |
| aelkner | yes. i confirmed that. he has a point with that. | 18:43 |
| aelkner | ideally, there shouldn't be a link appearing that will not be useful | 18:44 |
| aelkner | and a login dialog doesn't explain that the reason is that they need admin rights | 18:45 |
| aelkner | th1a: you know, this could be a case for fixing breadcrumbs site-wide | 18:46 |
| th1a | What do you mean? | 18:47 |
| aelkner | one could make the case that no breadcrumb should appear if the user will only be rejected | 18:47 |
| th1a | No, I'd say the views should be changed so that the user will never be rejected. | 18:47 |
| aelkner | should teachers be able to add sections? | 18:47 |
| aelkner | that | 18:47 |
| aelkner | that's what would happen if we allowed them permissions on the sections container | 18:48 |
| ignas | Breadcrumb not being a link if you can't go there is one way | 18:48 |
| ignas | read only views for stuff | 18:48 |
| ignas | is another way | 18:48 |
| ignas | no it would not happen, the view should be visible | 18:48 |
| th1a | I'm saying if you are sent to the sections index, you should get a useful view. | 18:48 |
| ignas | even if you can't add a section | 18:48 |
| th1a | So the view should show you, say, your sections. | 18:49 |
| th1a | It should be an index of sections you've got permission to see. | 18:49 |
| aelkner | well, we have the dashboard doing that now | 18:49 |
| aelkner | and that's what jeff wanted to get when clicking on the sections breadcrumb | 18:50 |
| th1a | I'm just saying that's the rational behavior for a teacher clicking on the sections breadcrumb. | 18:50 |
| aelkner | jeff thinks so, too | 18:50 |
| th1a | If you click on "sections" you should get "sections." | 18:50 |
| aelkner | with links to the gradebooks | 18:50 |
| th1a | Sure. | 18:50 |
| aelkner | so, we wouldn't need the tabs if we haf that | 18:50 |
| aelkner | had | 18:50 |
| ignas | if you will be assuming that gradebooks are there - do it on jelkner2007 | 18:51 |
| th1a | I'm just saying that this is an "improve the sections index" problem. Not a "breadcrumbs" bug. | 18:51 |
| th1a | I still think a direct gradebook to gradebook link is preferable anyhow. | 18:52 |
| aelkner | i could change the default view of the sections container to redirect to the dashboard for teachers and students | 18:52 |
| aelkner | ignas: your thoughts? | 18:52 |
| ignas | if you are assuming a dashboard - do it on jelkner2007 | 18:52 |
| aelkner | i could | 18:52 |
| ignas | i am for a generic section index for schooltool | 18:52 |
| ignas | that shows your sections | 18:52 |
| th1a | The sections link on a breadcrumb should be a link to an index of sections, period. | 18:52 |
| ignas | even if you can see these things in some other place too | 18:52 |
| th1a | Exactly what is in that index, I don't care. | 18:53 |
| th1a | But "sections" shouldn't be a link to "dashboard." | 18:53 |
| th1a | And "sections" shouldn't be a link to "gradebooks." | 18:53 |
| aelkner | so the sections view will show only those sections the teacher or student is in, and the links will take you to the section view (not the gradebook) | 18:54 |
| th1a | Unless the breadcrumb's behavior always changes based on context, which I don't think is a good idea. | 18:54 |
| th1a | aelkner: That's ok with me. | 18:54 |
| ignas | +1 for that | 18:54 |
| aelkner | although students are not allowed into the section view i think | 18:54 |
| ignas | 2 parts of sections | 18:55 |
| aelkner | so what then? | 18:55 |
| ignas | no links | 18:55 |
| th1a | One underlying point here is that the correct way to switch from grading one section to grading another... | 18:55 |
| ignas | only titles | 18:55 |
| ignas | just the way it's in ViewPerson | 18:55 |
| ignas | view | 18:55 |
| th1a | should not be to go through the sections breadcrumbs. | 18:55 |
| ignas | for basicperson | 18:55 |
| ignas | if you are a student | 18:55 |
| aelkner | th1a: so section tabs will sove that | 18:55 |
| ignas | you see all the sections, without links | 18:55 |
| aelkner | solve | 18:55 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:55 |
| aelkner | ok | 18:55 |
| ignas | if you are a teacher you see all the links to sections | 18:55 |
| ignas | and if you are both - you see 2 lists of sections | 18:55 |
| th1a | I'd say everyone should see an index view of the sections they've got permission to view. | 18:56 |
| ignas | th1a: student's don't have any sections to view, otoh - they should not see sections breadcrumb ever | 18:56 |
| th1a | Student's should be able to view the sections they're members of. | 18:57 |
| th1a | Although this may be getting into territory where there will have to be different views for different roles. | 18:57 |
| th1a | Hm... | 18:58 |
| th1a | Well, we can discuss that in more detail later. | 18:59 |
| aelkner | i agree it can wait | 18:59 |
| th1a | But the main point now is the section view should be an index of the sections you can view. | 18:59 |
| ignas | th1a: isn't it just that at the moment? | 18:59 |
| th1a | But if you can't view any sections, it should say "you can't see anything here" not give you a log in screen. | 18:59 |
| ignas | by the way - a permission error in there for teachers might be a bug | 19:00 |
| th1a | Well, the original bug here seems to be that a teacher - jelkner - is getting a login screen when he should see a list of the sections he can view (his). | 19:00 |
| th1a | Yes. | 19:00 |
| th1a | That might be the bug. | 19:00 |
| ignas | so looking at why he is getting the login screen should be done first | 19:00 |
| aelkner | the sections view has never worked for anyone other than admin | 19:01 |
| th1a | aelkner: Can you investigate that? | 19:01 |
| ignas | before doing something with section view | 19:01 |
| th1a | Ah. Well, see, that's the bug. | 19:01 |
| aelkner | and there's no logic in the sections view for 'my sections' | 19:01 |
| aelkner | that would need to be added and the security changed | 19:01 |
| th1a | I don't think you need "my sections." | 19:02 |
| aelkner | i can do all of that work under the blueprint jeff posted for the breadcumbs error | 19:02 |
| th1a | For everyone other than an admin, that's implicit. | 19:02 |
| aelkner | 'my sections' was just a concept | 19:02 |
| th1a | Well, just try to figure out what is going on with the permissions. | 19:02 |
| aelkner | not a proposal for view title | 19:02 |
| aelkner | will do | 19:03 |
| ignas | th1a: aelkner is right, i can't find the logic for filtering of sections in there ... don't know why i thought it was in there | 19:03 |
| th1a | We do do that in some other index views, though. | 19:04 |
| th1a | I think. | 19:04 |
| ignas | i thought so too, but can't recall in which views | 19:04 |
| aelkner | resourses? | 19:04 |
| aelkner | so we agree that i will fix the sections view to behave according to role? | 19:05 |
| ignas | not role | 19:05 |
| aelkner | with links for teachers and only section titles (no links) for students | 19:06 |
| ignas | permissions | 19:06 |
| ignas | look at person view | 19:06 |
| ignas | and at how it deals with sections | 19:06 |
| aelkner | ignas: which person, basic or demo? | 19:08 |
| ignas | basic | 19:08 |
| ignas | or even schooltool.person | 19:08 |
| th1a | aelkner: Right now, just make the sections view show the sections you've got permission to view. | 19:09 |
| aelkner | ok | 19:09 |
| th1a | Ultimately, we've got some choices to handle how a student sees a section. | 19:10 |
| ignas | in a branch if possible | 19:10 |
| ignas | because this one might touch a lot of places | 19:10 |
| th1a | Probably, we should make the default view of a section only show things that a student/parent, etc. can see. | 19:10 |
| th1a | And make the administrative things that are currently in the basic section view in a different place. | 19:10 |
| aelkner | this sounds like a candidate for its own blueprint | 19:11 |
| th1a | Well, yes. | 19:11 |
| th1a | I can throw a stub up for that. | 19:11 |
| aelkner | ok | 19:11 |
| aelkner | ignas: i made a change to trunk for jeff for a gradebook bug | 19:13 |
| aelkner | now how do they get that change loaded on their system | 19:13 |
| aelkner | the eggs are only built nightly, right? | 19:13 |
| ignas | as buildbot is broken because of some egg isues | 19:14 |
| ignas | you must issue an egg rebuild command yourself | 19:14 |
| ignas | http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot/schooltool-release | 19:15 |
| ignas | force build | 19:15 |
| ignas | it will rebuild the egg | 19:15 |
| ignas | and they will have to do "bin/buildout -n" | 19:15 |
| aelkner | mattva01: you get that last part? | 19:15 |
| aelkner | i will let you know when to do that | 19:16 |
| mattva01 | ah | 19:16 |
| mattva01 | ok | 19:16 |
| mattva01 | yeah | 19:16 |
| aelkner | that should be your procedure for now on | 19:16 |
| aelkner | so make a note if it, ok? | 19:16 |
| mattva01 | yeo | 19:16 |
| mattva01 | *yep | 19:16 |
| aelkner | let me do the rebuild, and i'll tell you when to go | 19:16 |
| mattva01 | i've got 12 minutes | 19:18 |
| aelkner | hopefully it will be ready in time | 19:19 |
| aelkner | ignas: it asks me for a branch to build, and i put in trunk, but that didn't work | 19:20 |
| aelkner | would i need to specify http://source.schooltool.org/trac/browser/trunk? | 19:21 |
| aelkner | tried that, and it didn't work either | 19:23 |
| aelkner | ignas: ? | 19:24 |
| ignas | don't put anything | 19:25 |
| ignas | just click the button | 19:25 |
| aelkner | that did the trick, thanks | 19:28 |
| aelkner | ignas: matt is running bin/buildout -n as you advised, and it's doing so many things including gcc | 19:35 |
| aelkner | is that what you would expect? | 19:35 |
| aelkner | mattva01: is there any other behaviour your could describe to ignas? | 19:36 |
| mattva01 | hmm appears to be nearly done | 19:36 |
| aelkner | i mean, there's no harm in recompiling everything, but i'd like to hear what ignas has to say about it | 19:37 |
| mattva01 | ok done | 19:37 |
| aelkner | averages? | 19:37 |
| mattva01 | ugh , elkner is in a phone call | 19:38 |
| aelkner | interrupt him. you're missing class while helping him, so... | 19:39 |
| mattva01 | yes that works | 19:40 |
| mattva01 | thanks | 19:40 |
| aelkner | what works? | 19:40 |
| mattva01 | the averages | 19:40 |
| aelkner | yay! | 19:40 |
| ignas | it sometimes updates some old eggs, sometimes libxml i think | 19:40 |
| aelkner | ok | 19:40 |
| mattva01 | yeah it took forever :) | 19:41 |
| aelkner | but it was successful which is what really matters | 19:41 |
| mattva01 | yep | 19:41 |
| mattva01 | ok i g2g | 19:41 |
| mattva01 | cya | 19:41 |
| aelkner | cya | 19:41 |
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| th1a | ignas: Do you need to create a branch for Ian? | 19:54 |
| th1a | ignas: Or, Ian thinks you need to create a branch for him. | 19:56 |
| th1a | I'm a little confused. | 19:56 |
| ignas | there is a branch for Ian already | 19:59 |
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| ignas | th1a: looked at the email, though i am confused about what they need from me too | 21:13 |
| ignas | they asked for repository access | 21:13 |
| ignas | so i told them to talk to jinty | 21:13 |
| ignas | because he is the person who can add new ssh keys | 21:14 |
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