| ignas | not really | 00:04 |
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| ignas | :) | 00:04 |
| ignas | buildout is something like a developer sandbox | 00:04 |
| ignas | when working with eggs | 00:04 |
| ignas | so when you will start working with schooltool, jelkner2007, and maybe even schooltool.gradebook as a separate egg | 00:05 |
| ignas | you will need some way to manage dependencies tests and running things in one place | 00:05 |
| ignas | so buildout is both for deployment and development | 00:05 |
| ignas | actually if jelkner2007 was packaged as an egg | 00:06 |
| ignas | deployment would not involve svn at all | 00:06 |
| ignas | you won't be able to run jelkner2007 by checking out jelkner2007 without buildout | 00:07 |
| ignas | because it has no Makefile, and no way to download dependencies | 00:07 |
| ignas | aelkner: hope that's a bit more clear | 00:08 |
| aelkner | ignas: well, i'll need more experience with this stuff to get the full picture, but thanks for the explanation | 00:13 |
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| ignas | th1a_: ayt? | 17:03 |
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| th1a | ignas: Could you set that configuration skeleton aside in some way that we could re-use it? | 17:22 |
| ignas | I will as soon as i'll have it tested and will be sure that it works | 17:22 |
| th1a | Cool. | 17:22 |
| ignas | maybe even create a tool based on paste | 17:22 |
| ignas | that would create a skeleton based on "package-name" | 17:22 |
| th1a | That would be nice. | 17:23 |
| ignas | so you could just do "make-schooltool-extension my_school" | 17:23 |
| th1a | Yes. | 17:23 |
| ignas | cd my_school; make run | 17:23 |
| th1a | Yes! | 17:23 |
| jelkner | aelkner: u here? | 17:24 |
| th1a | jelkner: I should tell you about the Open Minds conference before it recedes into the fog. | 17:39 |
| jelkner | th1a: please! | 17:40 |
| th1a | Just give me a call. | 17:40 |
| jelkner | th1a: i no longer have a cell | 17:41 |
| jelkner | (the $270 bill last month put an end to it...) | 17:41 |
| jelkner | i'm working on getting wengophone to work | 17:42 |
| jelkner | if that doesn't happen soon, i'll use skype | 17:42 |
| ignas | 270$ ? | 17:42 |
| ignas | ouch | 17:42 |
| jelkner | ignas: that's what 2 teenage boys will do to you :-( | 17:43 |
| jelkner | actually, the biggest part of the bill was mine | 17:43 |
| jelkner | i just kept using it more and more | 17:43 |
| jelkner | so now i can't do that | 17:44 |
| ignas | don't they have their own cellphones with prepaid cards? | 17:44 |
| jelkner | nope | 17:44 |
| jelkner | but they will now, i guess ;-) | 17:44 |
| ignas | it's the way parents do in lithuania - you get your 10$ and if you want more - well, you must beg ;) | 17:45 |
| th1a | What is great is that in Lithuania you can get a data plan on pre-paid. | 17:45 |
| th1a | In the US, you can only get data on top of a fairly expensive monthly voice plan. | 17:46 |
| th1a | If you're more interested in data than voice, it isn't economical. | 17:46 |
| ignas | it is a bit unsafe to have kids with a monthly plan, with all the cases of 5 year olds calling to paid numbers they saw somewhere making parents go bankrupt :/ | 17:48 |
| th1a | Our telecom system might as well be run from the Kremlin. | 17:49 |
| * ignas visualizes the old school tetris splash screen with block falling and the pseudo soviet music in the background | 17:50 | |
| th1a | That would be a good logo for Verizon. | 17:53 |
| jelkner | hold on, i'm shutting down to add a sound card | 17:54 |
| jelkner | trying to get wengophone working | 17:54 |
| jelkner | that will be my new voice communication tool | 17:54 |
| jelkner | if i can get it to work | 17:54 |
| th1a | Well, it is not as if I have it working... | 17:54 |
| jelkner | if not, i'll use skype | 17:55 |
| jelkner | th1a: i can call your phone once i have it working | 17:55 |
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| th1a | http://salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/10/15/amnesty/index.html | 17:55 |
| th1a | " The cooperation between the various military/intelligence branches of the Federal Government -- particularly the Pentagon and the NSA -- and the private telecommunications corporations is extraordinary and endless. They really are, in every respect, virtually indistinguishable." | 17:56 |
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| ignas | ok, i have packaged the schooltool.ldap plugin (if you can call it that) so now tizard sandbox has ldap enabled | 19:53 |
| ignas | though they will have to spend quite some time to make it functionally testable | 19:54 |
| ignas | and to make ldap authentication work properly with configuration being in the tizard extension | 19:54 |
| ignas | schooltool.ldap was just too messed up to merge into trunk so i just had to package it as a separate egg to make it available at all | 19:55 |
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| jelkner | jhancock__: are you here? | 20:49 |
| jelkner | th1a: can I call you this evening (around 6 pm)? | 20:50 |
| jhancock__ | I might have work | 20:51 |
| jelkner | jhancock__: no, that message was for th1a ;-) | 20:52 |
| jhancock__ | oh right | 20:52 |
| jhancock__ | haha | 20:52 |
| jhancock__ | how is gasp? | 20:52 |
| jelkner | anyway, did you see my email? | 20:52 |
| jhancock__ | not yet i'll go check it | 20:52 |
| jelkner | actually, my 2 emails | 20:52 |
| jelkner | take a look, and let's go over them | 20:53 |
| jhancock__ | all right | 20:55 |
| jhancock__ | I wubi works great | 20:55 |
| jhancock__ | but I can't get on the internet at school | 20:56 |
| jhancock__ | through it | 20:56 |
| jelkner | hmm... | 20:56 |
| jelkner | how about home? | 20:56 |
| jhancock__ | yes I can | 20:56 |
| jelkner | cool | 20:56 |
| jhancock__ | but I can't take my laptop home yet | 20:56 |
| jhancock__ | unfortunatly | 20:56 |
| jelkner | drats! | 20:56 |
| jhancock__ | the loan people are taking their sweet time approving my loan | 20:57 |
| jelkner | so, did you see the emails? | 20:57 |
| jhancock__ | and I can't take it home till they do | 20:57 |
| jhancock__ | yes I just read them | 20:57 |
| jelkner | gotcha | 20:57 |
| jelkner | 1st q: pause? | 20:57 |
| jhancock__ | I spent all day yesterday trying to get wubi to work | 20:57 |
| jhancock__ | and I was planning on fixing that when I finished that | 20:58 |
| jelkner | 2nd q: do you want me to fix those little string formatting errors | 20:58 |
| jelkner | ? | 20:58 |
| jelkner | the sooner the better | 20:58 |
| jhancock__ | yeah that would be great | 20:58 |
| jelkner | since my students are using a text book that says pause works! ;-) | 20:58 |
| jhancock__ | is that the __str__ for the classes | 20:58 |
| jhancock__ | or is it in the book? | 20:59 |
| jelkner | ok, i'll work with matt to fix the space after comma thing | 20:59 |
| jelkner | please send him the latest gasp with pause | 20:59 |
| jelkner | pause is in the book | 20:59 |
| jelkner | chapter 4 | 20:59 |
| jelkner | now that end_graphics works | 20:59 |
| jelkner | i need it | 20:59 |
| jelkner | brb | 20:59 |
| jhancock__ | k | 20:59 |
| jhancock__ | Oh good | 21:00 |
| jhancock__ | ok | 21:00 |
| jelkner | any chance you can send him that by tomorrow morning? | 21:02 |
| jelkner | a version with pause, i mean | 21:02 |
| jelkner | we have a half day tomorrow | 21:02 |
| jelkner | and matt and i will be staying around to work on stuff tomorrow afternoon | 21:03 |
| jhancock__ | I'll go work on it now | 21:03 |
| jelkner | cool | 21:03 |
| jhancock__ | I'll be offline for a while though | 21:03 |
| jelkner | i'll look for you here tomorrow... | 21:03 |
| jelkner | cya | 21:03 |
| jhancock__ | bye | 21:03 |
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