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| ignas | jinty: hi | 13:47 |
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| jinty | hey ignas | 13:47 |
| ignas | jinty: busy with something? haven't seen you much on irc ... | 13:47 |
| jinty | Yeah, actually in Berlin | 13:48 |
| ignas | wow | 13:48 |
| jinty | for the last 2 weeks we've been migrating from zope2 to zope3 | 13:48 |
| ignas | mm, lot's of code to rewrite | 13:48 |
| jinty | (or rather preparing to actually use zope3 on client sites) | 13:48 |
| jinty | not immediately | 13:49 |
| jinty | we'll be running 2 servers at the sites | 13:49 |
| jinty | both using the same DB | 13:49 |
| jinty | (postgres, always) | 13:49 |
| jinty | so, a certain urlpath goes to zope3 | 13:49 |
| ignas | yeah, a bit easier to use in 2 places than ZODB | 13:49 |
| jinty | ZODB is still just too scary for me | 13:50 |
| ignas | still? | 13:50 |
| ignas | i thought it get's scarier as you go ;) | 13:50 |
| jinty | yeah, it lacks constraints built into the database layer | 13:50 |
| ignas | indeed, i'd kind of like to have these | 13:51 |
| ignas | even if written in python | 13:51 |
| jinty | like "no directly provides in the db, please!" ;) | 13:52 |
| jinty | but, we've got a zope3 architecture that's beginning to look really nice | 13:53 |
| jinty | no zodb at all | 13:53 |
| jinty | servers all installed as debian packages | 13:53 |
| ignas | :) | 13:53 |
| * jinty will at some point write a synchronization tool between an egg repository and an apt repository | 13:54 | |
| jinty | which we need internally, but would be cool for schooltool and others | 13:55 |
| ignas | nice | 13:55 |
| jinty | but, sigh, still too little time... | 13:56 |
| jinty | but how's things going over there? | 13:58 |
| jinty | I havn't been following schooltool much these days either | 13:58 |
| ignas | so much to do, so little time in here | 13:58 |
| ignas | unicode characters in __name__'s are a bad thing | 13:59 |
| * jinty imagines it's probably pretty cold in lithuania by now | 13:59 | |
| ignas | for example | 13:59 |
| ignas | +15 | 13:59 |
| jinty | ah, what do they break? | 13:59 |
| ignas | was wormer yesterday | 13:59 |
| ignas | any place that is passing some_id=foo in the url | 13:59 |
| ignas | unless you encode('utf-8') | 14:00 |
| ignas | before that | 14:00 |
| jinty | yeah, that's what I thought | 14:00 |
| ignas | which i am doing all over the place | 14:00 |
| jinty | should encode unicode to utf8 to get the url | 14:00 |
| ignas | it's more like | 14:00 |
| jinty | but isn't that built into the IAbsoluteURL adapter? | 14:00 |
| ignas | urllib.quote(foo.__name__.encode('utf-8')) | 14:01 |
| ignas | urls work fine | 14:01 |
| ignas | but if you pass it as a GET parameter | 14:01 |
| jinty | ahha | 14:01 |
| ignas | like index.html?term=ąčėį | 14:01 |
| ignas | quote breaks on anything non utf-8 | 14:02 |
| ignas | i18n state in schooltool is worse than i thought :/ | 14:03 |
| jinty | I you only find how bad things are until you actually try to use it | 14:04 |
| jinty | i18n is particularly tricky | 14:04 |
| ignas | yep, i have seen bugs introduced by me, srichter, faassen and pretty much anyone else who worked on schooltool | 14:05 |
| ignas | as we don't have people testing alphas and betas, you should get ready to release schooltool updates ;) | 14:09 |
| ignas | jinty: as soon as you | 14:10 |
| ignas | will have time | 14:10 |
| ignas | for bzr+eggs migration of schooltool release process | 14:10 |
| ignas | tell me | 14:10 |
| jinty | I think bzr+eggs wait until we have a final release | 14:10 |
| jinty | we worked out all the bugs in europython | 14:11 |
| jinty | but definitely something I'm very interested in | 14:11 |
| ignas | they have found new ones since then, and i think that finding bugs in schooltool is only a matter of trying to use it :/ | 14:12 |
| jinty | I meant bugs with the release process | 14:13 |
| ignas | oh | 14:14 |
| jinty | right now, it's down to running 2 scripts | 14:14 |
| ignas | these ones | 14:14 |
| jinty | but if we make any changes to how things are structured, we compromise our ability to cut releases quickly | 14:14 |
| ignas | no, i am not going to be changing structure | 14:14 |
| ignas | at the moment | 14:15 |
| ignas | though i'd advise using schooltool buildout to anyone who wants to develop schooltool | 14:16 |
| ignas | not a trunk checkout | 14:16 |
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| jinty | ignas: yeah, I think that's a very good idea | 14:27 |
| jinty | trunk should only contain the egg | 14:28 |
| jinty | even, after release, we probably want to split it up into a namespace egg | 14:28 |
| jinty | like zope3 | 14:28 |
| ignas | yep, i'd like to do that as soon as possible | 14:28 |
| ignas | that would allow addition of new things into schooltool namespace without having them in the same repository | 14:29 |
| ignas | which is what i want very much | 14:29 |
| ignas | ranging from schooltool.devtools to scholtool.jelkner2007 | 14:29 |
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