| aelkner | i'm back | 00:00 |
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| ignas | it's related to schooltool becoming top level package | 00:01 |
| ignas | separating schooltool into more independent modules | 00:01 |
| ignas | etc. | 00:01 |
| aelkner | and the database? | 00:01 |
| aelkner | separate databases? | 00:01 |
| ignas | no | 00:01 |
| ignas | just separate top level containers | 00:02 |
| ignas | different places to store annotations | 00:02 |
| ignas | etc. | 00:02 |
| ignas | i mean - it's a lot of work | 00:02 |
| aelkner | sounds like it | 00:02 |
| ignas | at the moment the right way is to create a separate module for your configuration | 00:03 |
| ignas | plugins is not for gradebook | 00:03 |
| ignas | it's for things like barcodes | 00:04 |
| aelkner | separate module meaning separate top-level container, right? | 00:05 |
| aelkner | this is a bit hazy to me | 00:06 |
| ignas | no | 00:06 |
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| ignas | look at stapp2007 for example | 00:07 |
| aelkner | i have the config file open | 00:07 |
| aelkner | what i see is just the inclusion of packages and overrides | 00:08 |
| ignas | yes | 00:09 |
| aelkner | and the default skin | 00:09 |
| ignas | it's a configuration for a school | 00:09 |
| ignas | you can do it in a different way | 00:09 |
| ignas | for example add all those things to your site.zcml | 00:09 |
| ignas | but then you won't have a place for functional tests | 00:09 |
| aelkner | have a place? | 00:10 |
| aelkner | functional tests live in the browser psub-package | 00:10 |
| aelkner | what pother place would they have? | 00:10 |
| ignas | well - if only place your full configuration is site.zcml | 00:10 |
| ignas | and all other modules only include things that they need in their ftesting.zcml | 00:10 |
| ignas | you don't really get a place to test how whole school setup works together | 00:11 |
| aelkner | i don't have this stuff down by rote. isn't there a ftesting.zcml somewhere at the top level that includes the package ftesting.zcmls | 00:12 |
| ignas | not really | 00:12 |
| ignas | we have 3 different person implementations | 00:12 |
| ignas | how do you think we could test all 3 of them | 00:13 |
| aelkner | i dunno | 00:13 |
| ignas | we can't include all of them at the same time | 00:13 |
| ignas | so every implementation has it's own ftesting.zcml | 00:13 |
| aelkner | that makes sense | 00:13 |
| ignas | and stapp2007 has a separate ftesting.zcml | 00:13 |
| aelkner | i notoices stapp2007 has one | 00:13 |
| aelkner | right | 00:14 |
| ignas | that is identical to site.zcml you would get | 00:14 |
| ignas | so all the tests test "whole school" | 00:14 |
| ignas | not just separate modules | 00:14 |
| aelkner | understood. everyting needs to be tested together | 00:14 |
| ignas | and you will be modifying permissions and other things | 00:15 |
| ignas | i mean - if you were only working on gradebook | 00:15 |
| ignas | it would be easier | 00:15 |
| ignas | but i think you will spend more time making schooltool work for jelkner | 00:15 |
| ignas | rather than fixing gradebook | 00:15 |
| ignas | so you will need to do something like me or jfroche | 00:16 |
| ignas | have a module with overrides, and modifications for base schooltool | 00:16 |
| ignas | to change default permissions, hide menu items | 00:16 |
| ignas | etc. | 00:16 |
| aelkner | right | 00:16 |
| aelkner | so the lyceum package is an example? | 00:16 |
| ignas | not a very good one though ... | 00:16 |
| ignas | you should rather create schooltool.jelkner | 00:17 |
| ignas | and put everything there | 00:17 |
| aelkner | actually, i don't see a lyceum package | 00:17 |
| ignas | it's not there | 00:17 |
| ignas | it's in a separate repository | 00:17 |
| aelkner | oh | 00:18 |
| aelkner | i can check it out though | 00:18 |
| ignas | yes you can | 00:18 |
| aelkner | so i'll look at schooltool-lyceum for guidance | 00:19 |
| aelkner | i'm assuming you have overrides of menu permission in there? | 00:19 |
| ignas | "menu permission"? | 00:20 |
| aelkner | hiding menu i mean | 00:20 |
| aelkner | menus | 00:20 |
| ignas | oh | 00:20 |
| aelkner | aren't permission used to hide menus | 00:20 |
| aelkner | permissions | 00:20 |
| aelkner | well i can see what you did | 00:21 |
| aelkner | later when i get the chance | 00:21 |
| aelkner | so i think i have enough to go on for now. thanks | 00:21 |
| ignas | no not permissions | 00:21 |
| aelkner | i'll look at your branch tomorrow and let you know if i have any questions | 00:22 |
| aelkner | i'm going to call it a day | 00:22 |
| aelkner | the explanations were helpful | 00:23 |
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| ignas | aelkner: ping | 14:04 |
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| jelkner | aelkner: morning bro, r u here at this hour? | 15:47 |
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| aelkner | ignas: i'm here | 17:22 |
| aelkner | jelkner: you there | 17:23 |
| aelkner | ignas: did you have a question for me? | 17:26 |
| ignas | yes | 17:27 |
| ignas | a second | 17:27 |
| ignas | one thing - you should merge from schooltool trunk | 17:28 |
| aelkner | i saw you fixed the failed tests | 17:29 |
| aelkner | question: do i use the merge command, i.e., -r [revision when jelkner-gradebook was created]:HEAD, or do i use [revision when i last merged]:HEAD? | 17:30 |
| ignas | revision you last merged | 17:30 |
| aelkner | thaks | 17:30 |
| ignas | another question - what are you going to work on during upcoming months? | 17:32 |
| ignas | cando bugfixes is one thing | 17:33 |
| ignas | schooltool.jelkner2007 is another one | 17:33 |
| ignas | or will you limit your work on gradebook and won't touch anything else for jelkner? | 17:33 |
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| aelkner | ignas: do you know why it asks me to enter my rsa passphrase three times before executing the command? | 17:34 |
| ignas | you don't have your ssh keys or agent set up | 17:35 |
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| mgedmin | your linux distro usually starts the ssh agent | 17:35 |
| mgedmin | all you should do is run ssh-add once | 17:35 |
| mgedmin | and type the passphrase once | 17:36 |
| mgedmin | then ssh should just work for the rest of the login session | 17:36 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:36 |
| aelkner | thanks | 17:36 |
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| jelkner | aelkner: yo bro! | 18:03 |
| jelkner | don't call | 18:03 |
| jelkner | i'm in ap and they are taking a test | 18:03 |
| jelkner | students still can't see their grades | 18:03 |
| aelkner | that's amazing. i was just dialing | 18:03 |
| jelkner | and the dashboard is back | 18:03 |
| jelkner | i thought we weren't going to to that | 18:04 |
| aelkner | i'm still working on getting the right page to come up when you start the app | 18:04 |
| jelkner | ahh | 18:04 |
| aelkner | questions: | 18:04 |
| jelkner | should we just talk again later in the day? | 18:04 |
| jelkner | students leave at 11:40 | 18:04 |
| aelkner | i'll call then, but a quick question | 18:05 |
| jelkner | i'm here til back to school night starts at 7 pm after that | 18:05 |
| aelkner | is the following rule ok: | 18:05 |
| aelkner | 1) if the user is unauthenticated, the login page appears | 18:05 |
| aelkner | 2) if the user is in the manager group, the calendar appears as always | 18:06 |
| aelkner | 3) if the user is in the teachers or students group, the sections page appears | 18:06 |
| aelkner | ? | 18:06 |
| aelkner | jelkner? | 18:07 |
| jelkner | that sounds good | 18:07 |
| jelkner | but what if you are in the manager and the teacher group? | 18:07 |
| aelkner | yeah, what if? | 18:07 |
| jelkner | do you see the calendar or the sections page? | 18:07 |
| aelkner | that's why i ask. i noticed you have mgallagh in the managers group | 18:08 |
| jelkner | and he is a student as well | 18:08 |
| aelkner | well, that's not the only reason i ask | 18:08 |
| jelkner | i'll take him out of the managers group once this is working better | 18:08 |
| aelkner | you have to choose | 18:08 |
| jelkner | fine | 18:08 |
| jelkner | that's easy to do | 18:08 |
| aelkner | and the choice is? | 18:09 |
| jelkner | what do you mean? | 18:09 |
| aelkner | you have to choose what happens | 18:09 |
| jelkner | i thought you mean i should only put each user in 1 group | 18:09 |
| aelkner | good idea | 18:09 |
| jelkner | managers need to manage | 18:09 |
| aelkner | matt should have the admin password | 18:09 |
| jelkner | right | 18:09 |
| aelkner | so he shouldn't be in the admin group | 18:10 |
| jelkner | we will create a manger user for management tasks | 18:10 |
| jelkner | and i will demote myself to being a jat | 18:10 |
| jelkner | "just a teacher" | 18:10 |
| jelkner | are we good? | 18:11 |
| jelkner | aelkner ? | 18:11 |
| aelkner | actually, i checked and matt is not in the managers group | 18:11 |
| jelkner | cool | 18:12 |
| aelkner | i just need to change the login view to not redirect to the calendar view after login | 18:12 |
| jelkner | yup | 18:12 |
| jelkner | and get rid of the dashboard | 18:12 |
| jelkner | can this be done my today? | 18:13 |
| jelkner | s/by/my | 18:13 |
| aelkner | i'm working on it | 18:16 |
| aelkner | jelkner: can i call now? | 18:45 |
| aelkner | jelkner: where are you? | 19:39 |
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| mattva01 | hey alan | 22:11 |
| aelkner | hey matt | 22:18 |
| aelkner | mattva01: where are you now? | 22:19 |
| mattva01 | at school | 22:19 |
| aelkner | and jeff | 22:19 |
| mattva01 | here as well | 22:19 |
| mattva01 | but hes about to go to a meeting | 22:19 |
| aelkner | i'll call | 22:19 |
| aelkner | never mind | 22:19 |
| aelkner | go ahead and do the make update | 22:19 |
| aelkner | then sign in as yourself, and you wil see your sections | 22:20 |
| aelkner | click on a section, and you will see your grades | 22:20 |
| aelkner | mattva01: let me know when you've gotten to your grades | 22:20 |
| mattva01 | one sec, brb | 22:21 |
| mattva01 | sorry , fixing up a comp | 22:25 |
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| mattva01 | k back | 22:30 |
| mattva01 | sorry got locked out of the school | 22:37 |
| mattva01 | make: *** No rule to make target `update'. Stop. | 22:40 |
| mattva01 | I did it with svn up though ,but that would not run any evolve scripts | 22:41 |
| mattva01 | aelkner,you here? | 22:41 |
| aelkner | mattva01: i'm back | 22:43 |
| aelkner | svn up is enough | 22:43 |
| mattva01 | ok good | 22:43 |
| aelkner | ping me when jeff gets back | 22:44 |
| mattva01 | k | 22:44 |
| mattva01 | umm small issue | 22:45 |
| mattva01 | shouldnt my sections show the class name rather then "All students" | 22:46 |
| mattva01 | and the dashboard does not show up (I don't know if thats a bug though) | 22:48 |
| Lumiere | hi aelknee/mattva01 | 22:54 |
| Lumiere | err aelkner | 22:54 |
| aelkner | hey Lumiere | 22:54 |
| Lumiere | mattva01: dwelsh says "make me a package" | 22:55 |
| mattva01 | ok | 22:56 |
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| aelkner | Lumiere: ask welsh what's the status on the meeting next week | 22:56 |
| mattva01 | sorry I got off track | 22:56 |
| Lumiere | aelkner: ask him yourself ;) | 22:56 |
| dwelsh | welsh here | 22:56 |
| dwelsh | greetings aelkner | 22:56 |
| aelkner | hello | 22:56 |
| aelkner | what | 22:56 |
| aelkner | what's the status on the meeting next week | 22:56 |
| dwelsh | mattva01: you there? | 22:56 |
| mattva01 | yep | 22:56 |
| dwelsh | we're ready for our first package | 22:57 |
| dwelsh | jason says you're pretty close to having one??? | 22:57 |
| dwelsh | aelkner: jeff and I both have calls in to Mike's office | 22:57 |
| dwelsh | he's not back until this upcoming Monday | 22:57 |
| aelkner | ok | 22:57 |
| mattva01 | yep | 22:58 |
| mattva01 | I am | 22:58 |
| dwelsh | we're asking his assist if we can setup a mtg even while he's away | 22:58 |
| dwelsh | of course, we would want Mike to come to the meeting. | 22:58 |
| dwelsh | I'm thinking I could call the state folks and see what dates might be good | 22:58 |
| dwelsh | in fact... I can do that now | 22:58 |
| aelkner | cool | 22:58 |
| dwelsh | mattva01: go ahead and make the package | 22:58 |
| dwelsh | we're ready for it | 22:58 |
| mattva01 | ok good | 22:59 |
| mattva01 | oh ok , didnt realize jeff wanted dashboard to disapear | 23:01 |
| aelkner | is he there now? | 23:01 |
| mattva01 | yep just got back | 23:02 |
| dwelsh | aelkner... just spoke with head of the VERSO project, Peggy Watson | 23:13 |
| dwelsh | she agrees that we're ready for a follow-up | 23:13 |
| dwelsh | she will need the go-ahead from the head of VA CTE, Elizabeth Russel | 23:14 |
| dwelsh | So an email needs to go from Mike Morton to Elizabeth Russell | 23:14 |
| dwelsh | Peggy is the boss of Lee Capps, as well as Darron Morris | 23:15 |
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| aelkner | mattva01: go ahead and do the update | 23:45 |
| mattva01 | k cool | 23:46 |
| jelkner | ya done it, bro! | 23:48 |
| jelkner | go have a beer | 23:48 |
| jelkner | aelkner: i'm now ready for back to school night | 23:49 |
| jelkner | thanks! | 23:49 |
| aelkner | cool | 23:49 |
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