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| jfroche__ | ignas: hello ! should i create a bzr branch for my school ? | 13:08 |
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| ignas | if you want to | 13:09 |
| ignas | i just have to test out bzr before migrating schooltool to it | 13:09 |
| ignas | so i am using lyceum as the pilot | 13:09 |
| jfroche__ | oh ok i thought you did it for your school | 13:09 |
| ignas | yes i am doing it for my school, but that's not mandatory for you or anything | 13:09 |
| jfroche__ | ok tell me when i should do it | 13:10 |
| ignas | what you might want to look at is - moving your school out of the branch | 13:10 |
| ignas | the way lyceum branch is in svn | 13:10 |
| ignas | as in - lyceum is using schooltool egg now | 13:10 |
| jfroche__ | ok i am looking | 13:10 |
| ignas | and is not living in the same place as schooltool | 13:11 |
| jfroche__ | but you still have a src/schooltool in your branch | 13:12 |
| ignas | that's the old one | 13:13 |
| ignas | http://source.schooltool.org/trac/browser/trunk/lyceum | 13:13 |
| ignas | is the new one | 13:13 |
| ignas | i will delete the old one soon | 13:13 |
| jfroche__ | nice :) | 13:13 |
| ignas | so my point was that you might want to move your school code into a separate repository/package | 13:14 |
| jfroche__ | for ? | 13:15 |
| jfroche__ | i should also a trunk/jacqmain ? | 13:16 |
| ignas | yes | 13:16 |
| ignas | and use schooltool as an egg | 13:16 |
| jfroche__ | ok ok | 13:17 |
| jfroche__ | doing it | 13:17 |
| ignas | though if you are not using buildout you might have to copy more of the infrastructure | 13:17 |
| ignas | if you are - then just create something like "lyceum-buildout" | 13:17 |
| ignas | it's like 3-4 files anyway | 13:17 |
| jfroche__ | yep i ll create buildout package for me too | 13:18 |
| ignas | or like cando-buildout | 13:18 |
| jfroche__ | it's much nicer with eggs ! i like it | 13:18 |
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| jfroche__ | ignas: does it affect something that pytz timezone is set to Vilnius in test.py ? | 13:22 |
| ignas | it's not set | 13:22 |
| ignas | the schooltool setup.py just tests if pytz works | 13:22 |
| ignas | a workaround for an ubuntu bug | 13:22 |
| jfroche__ | ok | 13:22 |
| jfroche__ | about the release, what will happen if zope 3.4 isn't released in next ubuntu ? | 13:23 |
| ignas | it won't get released | 13:27 |
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| jfroche__ | ignas: where does buildout should look for the schooltool eggs ? pypi ? | 14:30 |
| ignas | nope | 14:34 |
| ignas | look for url in cando-buildout or lyceum-buildout | 14:35 |
| jfroche__ | ignas: have you tried the dev mode package from buildout | 15:22 |
| jfroche__ | looks like apidoc isn't installed | 15:22 |
| ignas | hmm | 15:23 |
| ignas | then add schooltool checkout to your development eggs | 15:23 |
| ignas | and try playing with dependencies in setup.py | 15:23 |
| ignas | or - add apidoc eggs to your recipe | 15:24 |
| ignas | and tell me which ones make it work | 15:24 |
| ignas | then i will add them to setup.py of schooltool | 15:24 |
| jfroche__ | ok will look | 15:24 |
| ignas | by the way | 15:29 |
| ignas | if you need your branch with all the history migrated to bzr | 15:29 |
| ignas | i can do that | 15:29 |
| jfroche__ | ah didnt know that | 15:35 |
| jfroche__ | i already push | 15:35 |
| jfroche__ | there is some kind of script ? | 15:35 |
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| jfroche__ | good morning th1a_ & th1a__ | 15:39 |
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| th1a | good morning jfroche. | 15:40 |
| jfroche__ | ignas: imagine i need a group factory on schooltool so that i can use my own groups, what is the path ? ci on trunk or branch trunk for jacqmain and merge back as soon as i am told you it's ready for merge ? | 15:41 |
| ignas | branch trunk | 15:42 |
| ignas | work on it | 15:42 |
| ignas | and ask me to review it before commiting | 15:42 |
| ignas | merging | 15:42 |
| jfroche__ | on svn right ? not yet on bzr ? | 15:42 |
| ignas | yes | 15:44 |
| th1a | OK... I have my coffee now... | 15:45 |
| jfroche__ | ignas: if i want to still run my branch on my buildout, i have to recreate an egg of schooltool and upload it somewhere ? | 15:48 |
| ignas | hmm, if you are using a custom schooltool | 16:01 |
| ignas | then you will have to checkout your schooltool branch | 16:01 |
| ignas | into your buildout | 16:01 |
| ignas | and add that schooltool checkout to your development eggs | 16:01 |
| jfroche__ | ok | 16:01 |
| ignas | develop = your-school schooltool | 16:01 |
| ignas | where your-school is a checkout of your school plugin and schooltool is a checkout of schooltool | 16:02 |
| jfroche__ | ok | 16:03 |
| jfroche__ | in your buildout makefile you are doing bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ignas/schooltool/lyceum lyceum --lightweight ... i do the same with my branch but i can't ci after that shouldn't it be something like bzr branch sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jfroche/schooltool/jacqmain/ ? | 16:07 |
| jfroche__ | ignas: | 16:07 |
| ignas | hmm, do you have your jacqmain branch exported to bzr? | 16:07 |
| jfroche__ | yup | 16:07 |
| ignas | with all the history? | 16:07 |
| * mgedmin idly remarks that you can replace 'http://bazaar.launchpad.net/' with 'lp:' | 16:07 | |
| jfroche__ | ignas: i didn't know that we could keep the history, i did it before you told me | 16:08 |
| jfroche__ | good to know mgedmin, tks | 16:08 |
| ignas | well - you can keep it | 16:08 |
| ignas | so if you want to use bzr | 16:08 |
| ignas | i could try and help you migrate | 16:08 |
| jfroche__ | i am interested yes | 16:09 |
| jfroche__ | should i remove what i pushed ? | 16:09 |
| ignas | yes | 16:09 |
| jfroche__ | ok | 16:09 |
| ignas | you will still have to create trunk/jacqmain/ | 16:09 |
| ignas | doing "svn cp" from your branch | 16:09 |
| ignas | and make it work | 16:09 |
| ignas | first | 16:09 |
| ignas | so you would have 2 separate svn checkouts in your buildout | 16:10 |
| ignas | trunk/jacqmain for jacqmain | 16:10 |
| ignas | and branches/schooltool-jacqmain | 16:10 |
| ignas | for the modified schooltool | 16:10 |
| jfroche__ | ignas: i created a new schooltool branch cause there is way to much changes since i commited | 16:10 |
| jfroche__ | so that you couldn't review the changes | 16:11 |
| ignas | when you will have these working i will help you migrate trunk/jacqmain to bzr while persisting history | 16:11 |
| jfroche__ | ok | 16:11 |
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| th1a | OK... I'm trying the magic Makefile for Gutsy packages. | 16:28 |
| * th1a is kind of afraid of the Magic Makefile. | 16:28 | |
| th1a | Hm... dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: python2.4-schoolbell (>= 1.2.4-2) | 16:29 |
| Lumiere | hola th1a | 16:30 |
| th1a | Hi Lumiere | 16:30 |
| * th1a shuffles some papers around. | 16:30 | |
| ignas | hi | 16:31 |
| aelkner | hey all | 16:31 |
| th1a | I forgot to send out a note about the meeting this morning. | 16:31 |
| th1a | Hi aelkner. | 16:31 |
| aelkner | did you see jeff's latest note? | 16:31 |
| th1a | aelkner: I'm not sure which is his latest. | 16:32 |
| aelkner | about the gradebook, and that he can't use it the wat it is | 16:32 |
| aelkner | way | 16:32 |
| ignas | who can fix that? | 16:32 |
| th1a | I think jeff needs to punt for now. | 16:33 |
| th1a | Maybe do this next semester. | 16:33 |
| th1a | I mean, work on the gradebook now. | 16:33 |
| th1a | But don't use it for real until later. | 16:33 |
| wjohnsto_ | hello | 16:34 |
| aelkner | you should tell him that | 16:34 |
| Lumiere | I agree, there is no reason he can't use just a spreadsheet | 16:34 |
| th1a | hi wjohnsto. | 16:34 |
| wjohnsto_ | I was actually working on gradebook last night | 16:34 |
| Lumiere | until next semester | 16:34 |
| ignas | th1a: what is Jeff using as a gradebook at the moment? | 16:34 |
| Lumiere | ignas: schooltool.gradebook | 16:34 |
| th1a | Wax tablet? | 16:34 |
| wjohnsto_ | and I managed to get everything that jelkner wants to work | 16:34 |
| ignas | Lumiere: he can't use it, so i assume he's using something else | 16:34 |
| wjohnsto_ | jelkner is using jelkner-gradebook | 16:34 |
| Lumiere | ignas: then he's probably not keeping any grades | 16:34 |
| th1a | Lumiere: Yes... | 16:35 |
| Lumiere | he's stubborn about that sort of thing | 16:35 |
| Lumiere | wjohnsto_: jelkner-gradebook is a branch, no? | 16:35 |
| th1a | wjohnsto_: If you can get him going, great. | 16:35 |
| wjohnsto_ | yes it is | 16:35 |
| th1a | I created that branch for you. | 16:35 |
| Lumiere | the question as posed was a little more generic ;) | 16:35 |
| wjohnsto_ | ;) | 16:35 |
| wjohnsto_ | well I fixed the bug that jelkner submitted | 16:36 |
| wjohnsto_ | but I cant check in, so he doesn't know that yet | 16:36 |
| aelkner | we should fix that then | 16:36 |
| wjohnsto_ | I sent jinty my public key | 16:36 |
| th1a | wjohnsto_: Do we have your ssh key? | 16:37 |
| th1a | OK. | 16:37 |
| wjohnsto_ | I can send it to you if you want | 16:37 |
| wjohnsto_ | although I can't do too much now, I'm at school | 16:37 |
| Lumiere | for now, send a diff to ignas i guess would be the way to get it committed for now | 16:37 |
| ignas | i guess | 16:37 |
| ignas | a question | 16:37 |
| ignas | what kind of quality control do you want for gradebook? | 16:37 |
| ignas | i mean - should i demand tests and PEP8 | 16:39 |
| Lumiere | yes | 16:40 |
| wjohnsto_ | :( | 16:40 |
| Lumiere | and at some point | 16:40 |
| th1a | I kind of think we should let them go quickly and clean up after. | 16:40 |
| Lumiere | th1a: yes, but tests and well formed code should be required now | 16:40 |
| th1a | Otherwise jelkner is really going to have an aneurysm. | 16:40 |
| Lumiere | well written code, can be brought in | 16:40 |
| Lumiere | as cleanup | 16:41 |
| ignas | ok, but don't ask me to merge it to trunk then | 16:41 |
| th1a | That wasn't my intention. | 16:41 |
| ignas | and no "well, we need it in the release, but there are only 2 weeks left" | 16:41 |
| th1a | ignas: I know. | 16:42 |
| ignas | i just want to be sure | 16:42 |
| * Lumiere applauds ignas | 16:42 | |
| aelkner | Lumiere: if the code is not integrated into trunk, how would jeff get it? | 16:42 |
| jfroche__ | i missed a train, will st will be released in next ubuntu release at last ? | 16:42 |
| th1a | I'm not making any kind of pronouncement about this. | 16:42 |
| aelkner | he's using cando which checks out schooltool's trunk code | 16:42 |
| Lumiere | aelkner: he's on a branch | 16:43 |
| Lumiere | and his cando and gradebook | 16:43 |
| aelkner | a branch of cando? | 16:43 |
| Lumiere | are separate | 16:43 |
| ignas | aelkner: a branch of schooltool | 16:43 |
| aelkner | so he has two instances, one cando and one schooltool? | 16:43 |
| Lumiere | he uses a schooltool branch for gradebook and a cando trunk (then release) instance for comps | 16:43 |
| th1a | I'm just saying that jelkner needs some fast turnaround in the short term. | 16:43 |
| Lumiere | yes | 16:43 |
| aelkner | ok | 16:43 |
| th1a | Primarily with student interns. | 16:44 |
| th1a | Really this should be Jeff's decision. | 16:44 |
| ignas | then just warn him that getting the new gradebook into a schooltool release won't be something that can happen easily | 16:45 |
| wjohnsto_ | I know he will want it done, I can go over to his room right now and ask him if you want | 16:45 |
| Lumiere | jfroche__: st's not getting a release into gutsy | 16:45 |
| ignas | no matter how good/easy the gradebook will be to use | 16:45 |
| Lumiere | but will be releasing in a separate repository for gutsy | 16:45 |
| th1a | I should just stay out of this. | 16:45 |
| th1a | Jeff needs to decide what he wants. | 16:46 |
| Lumiere | ignas: my suggestion is that you put together a list of what is required to get it merged | 16:46 |
| Lumiere | and let wjohnsto_ know | 16:46 |
| Lumiere | so that he can ensure that it meets that level of quality | 16:46 |
| Lumiere | by the END of his work on it | 16:47 |
| th1a | I guess this gets back to my feeling that it is too late to do this on the fly with interns. | 16:47 |
| Lumiere | with all of us knowing that between now and then, it is unlikely to be there | 16:47 |
| th1a | Can't do fast/cheap/good. | 16:47 |
| Lumiere | th1a: well, that's a choice too, but I doubt jeff's going to want to start on one and move to the other | 16:48 |
| Lumiere | th1a: I don't think even ignas is asking for gorgeous code right now | 16:48 |
| aelkner | he was just asking for PEP8 and tests | 16:48 |
| Lumiere | I think he just wants high coverage and well formed code | 16:48 |
| ignas | Lumiere: i am asking for unit tests, functional tests, PEP8 which is actually a lot | 16:49 |
| th1a | I should just shut up on this. | 16:49 |
| ignas | these things can reduce their features per hour speed dramatically | 16:49 |
| mgedmin | bugs per hour too, hopefully | 16:50 |
| ignas | aelkner: i would not merge CanDo to trunk | 16:50 |
| aelkner | how do you mean? | 16:50 |
| Lumiere | mgedmin: yes | 16:50 |
| ignas | quality standards | 16:50 |
| Lumiere | I'd rather have low features/hr | 16:50 |
| Lumiere | and very low bugs/gr | 16:50 |
| ignas | Lumiere: sometimes when prototyping | 16:50 |
| Lumiere | err hr | 16:50 |
| ignas | which jeff will want to do | 16:50 |
| ignas | it might be useful to have a high speed | 16:50 |
| Lumiere | ignas: most of what he wants is there | 16:50 |
| ignas | schooltool test coverage vs cando test coverage (unit test) | 16:51 |
| Lumiere | most of the features I think he's looking for are longer-term | 16:51 |
| ignas | aelkner: ^ | 16:51 |
| Lumiere | aelkner: yea, cando's got horrid coverage | 16:51 |
| aelkner | true | 16:51 |
| Lumiere | and needs a year of refactoring | 16:51 |
| ignas | that one i can live with | 16:51 |
| Lumiere | once we get 2007.12 out | 16:51 |
| Lumiere | ignas: I can't in some cases | 16:52 |
| ignas | :) | 16:52 |
| Lumiere | there are some that are bogging stuff down | 16:52 |
| ignas | any things we can decide/solve without jelkner? | 16:53 |
| ignas | because all these decisions seem to be for him to make | 16:53 |
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| jelkner | aelkner: hey bro | 16:54 |
| th1a | hi jelkner. | 16:54 |
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| aelkner | jelkner: were you ears burning? | 16:54 |
| jelkner | will brady found a cando bug in the grade book | 16:54 |
| jelkner | hi th1a! | 16:54 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: how was that sneezing attack | 16:55 |
| jelkner | looks like pcardune's ajax | 16:55 |
| aelkner | jelkner: huh? | 16:56 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: report it to lp | 16:56 |
| ignas | jelkner: you have mentioned that you need changes made by interns reviewed | 16:56 |
| jelkner | will did that | 16:56 |
| ignas | jelkner: my question was - how much reviewed? | 16:57 |
| jelkner | ignas? | 16:57 |
| jelkner | you mean in the CanDo grade book? | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: no schooltool | 16:57 |
| th1a | jelkner's gradebook. | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: ignas wants to know how much review should be done | 16:58 |
| ignas | it's in schooltool isn't iy? | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | tests/pep8 | 16:58 |
| ignas | do you want trunk quality code, or do you want them to hack it as fast as possible to keep up with all the feature requests | 16:58 |
| jelkner | i only have the following features that need to be there: | 16:58 |
| jelkner | 1. a column showing average grade | 16:58 |
| jelkner | 2. students can view grades | 16:58 |
| jelkner | that's all i need | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | 2 for themselves? | 16:59 |
| jelkner | yes | 16:59 |
| ignas | are you using the gradebook at the moment? | 16:59 |
| jelkner | only themselves | 16:59 |
| jelkner | yes | 16:59 |
| jelkner | i'm using it | 16:59 |
| jelkner | that's the plan | 16:59 |
| jelkner | it will be the only gradebook i have | 16:59 |
| ignas | i see | 17:00 |
| ignas | so you are not expecting any unexpected must be improvements to be necessary? | 17:00 |
| * ignas just does not want to yell at people that won't listen to him, because "feature A is more important, and they will write the test later" | 17:00 | |
| jelkner | here are *all* the improvements that will be needed this year: | 17:00 |
| jelkner | 1. by November, it must support creation of a new term | 17:01 |
| jelkner | 2. by January, it needs to be able to average terms and report a final grade | 17:02 |
| jelkner | (for a semester course) | 17:02 |
| aelkner | jelkner: you seem to be ignoring ignas' questions about code quality | 17:02 |
| jelkner | 3. by June, it must average 4 quarters and a final exam and report a final grade | 17:02 |
| jelkner | aelkner: i'm not in a position to answer that | 17:02 |
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| jelkner | i'm a customer | 17:03 |
| jelkner | you all need to address quality issues | 17:03 |
| th1a | jelkner: You're a customer, but your student is the developer. | 17:03 |
| th1a | Not us. | 17:03 |
| jelkner | i can only tell you what i need to use the grade book and what works and doesn't work | 17:03 |
| jelkner | indeed | 17:03 |
| jelkner | so we will need someone to review their work | 17:03 |
| jelkner | again, i can't do that | 17:03 |
| Lumiere | jelkner: the question posed is this | 17:04 |
| th1a | jelkner: Look, if you want this to happen, you have to quit mincing around. | 17:04 |
| th1a | SchoolTool is paying for this. | 17:04 |
| Lumiere | Is it more important that things go fast | 17:04 |
| th1a | You are the customer, and your student is the developer. | 17:04 |
| Lumiere | or is it more important that in the end this is releasable | 17:04 |
| jelkner | th1a: tom, i'm not trying to "mince around", really | 17:05 |
| ignas | Lumiere: he can't answer this | 17:05 |
| jelkner | please just tell me what to do | 17:05 |
| jelkner | i'll do it | 17:05 |
| th1a | IN THE END, this needs to be releasable. | 17:05 |
| ignas | Lumiere: only his interns or someone who knows them can estimate | 17:05 |
| ignas | how much work is in the features mentioned | 17:05 |
| Lumiere | then wjohnsto should answer it | 17:05 |
| th1a | If we require the code to be correct when it is checked in, initial development will go at 1/3rd the rate it will if you plow ahead. | 17:06 |
| th1a | It'll all take the same amount of time in the end. | 17:06 |
| th1a | Maybe more if you cut corners up front. | 17:06 |
| ignas | th1a: might take a bit more | 17:07 |
| th1a | The real problem is that it might never get done. | 17:07 |
| th1a | That's the actual problem. | 17:07 |
| aelkner | jelkner: you follow what's being said here? | 17:08 |
| th1a | From my perspective, I can't understand why we're just not doing whatever you normally do for CanDo. | 17:08 |
| aelkner | normally CanDo was developed quickly without high coding standards | 17:09 |
| aelkner | that's why ignas wouldn't accept it into schooltol trunk | 17:09 |
| mgallagh | well we were planning to switch to a new branch for gradebook , so that your development wont be negativley affected by our needs. | 17:09 |
| ignas | mgallagh: what goes up, must go down (or get merged to trunk eventually) | 17:10 |
| ignas | unless you are in the mood of rewriting everything correctly | 17:10 |
| ignas | if we need speed, then i don't see much use in me reviewing changes, i will look at it | 17:11 |
| ignas | but understanding code modifications without seeing tests modified | 17:11 |
| ignas | is a lot more difficult | 17:11 |
| ignas | but if you want me to review them well, then get ready to do it slowly, because i will insist on things being fixed (missing tests written) | 17:12 |
| ignas | before new code gets added | 17:13 |
| ignas | i guess we will try the high quality thing | 17:13 |
| th1a | Let's get a little more concrete here. | 17:13 |
| ignas | and if it goes too slow | 17:13 |
| ignas | i'll just let them go | 17:13 |
| th1a | Jeff has a small set of things he needs to start doing grades. | 17:13 |
| th1a | He needs these three weeks ago. | 17:13 |
| ignas | hmm | 17:14 |
| th1a | mgallagh and wjohnsto need to get these done and check them in quickly. | 17:14 |
| ignas | and needs them commited yesterday | 17:14 |
| th1a | Then clean them up an submit them to ignas. | 17:14 |
| ignas | ok | 17:14 |
| th1a | Then move on to the next batch of stuff jelkner needs. | 17:14 |
| th1a | If they have time, do it right the first time; | 17:14 |
| th1a | if not, just get it running for the end of the quarter and clean it up. | 17:15 |
| th1a | Make sense? | 17:15 |
| ignas | "and clean it up" does not | 17:15 |
| ignas | if they don't have time in this quarter | 17:15 |
| ignas | borrowing it from the next quarter | 17:15 |
| ignas | does not work well | 17:15 |
| ignas | and postponing clean up | 17:16 |
| ignas | does just that | 17:16 |
| th1a | Well, we can't have fast, cheap and good. | 17:16 |
| th1a | Pick two. | 17:16 |
| ignas | i would like to try "cheap and good" and if that is too slo | 17:16 |
| ignas | then "fast and cheap" | 17:16 |
| ignas | so if they won't manage to hit deadlines, they'll have to drop wuality | 17:16 |
| ignas | quality | 17:17 |
| th1a | We have to start with fast, because jelkner is three weeks into the school year. | 17:17 |
| ignas | well - hotfixes | 17:17 |
| ignas | is a different arena | 17:17 |
| th1a | ? | 17:18 |
| ignas | these small fixes | 17:18 |
| ignas | are an exception | 17:19 |
| Lumiere | brb | 17:19 |
| ignas | getting system to work is more important than anything else most of the time | 17:19 |
| ignas | it's not a feature per se ;) | 17:19 |
| th1a | I guess I should also point out that I don't expect all this work to land in the trunk. | 17:20 |
| th1a | The back end for terms will be changing, so that part should be implemented shallowly in the trunk. | 17:20 |
| th1a | SOrry. | 17:21 |
| th1a | Not "shallowly in the trunk." | 17:21 |
| th1a | Shallowly in the branch. | 17:21 |
| aelkner | so the plan is to have jelkner run off of his branch until the interns have time to clean it up to integrate i into trunk? | 17:22 |
| th1a | That is, there will be a new, more complex term system needed, which won't be done before the end of jelkner's first term. | 17:22 |
| th1a | So they should just do something simple that works for now. | 17:22 |
| jelkner | and if i *must* just use a kludge, i'm willing | 17:22 |
| aelkner | jelkner: just so i'm sure i understand: | 17:23 |
| th1a | I would hope that it won't look like a kludge. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | 1) you are using cando in one instance | 17:23 |
| jelkner | for example, i could just start a new section for each section in quarter 2 | 17:23 |
| th1a | Just be a kludge behind the scenes. | 17:23 |
| aelkner | 2) you are using jelkner-gradebook branch of schooltolol for another instance | 17:23 |
| jelkner | but then i would need to get the data back together by january | 17:23 |
| aelkner | jelkner: you have two instances with two different Data.fs files, right? | 17:24 |
| aelkner | so it's like you're using two different apps | 17:25 |
| aelkner | and you don't need the two Data.fs files to be merged in the future i hope | 17:26 |
| th1a | There will probably be an import/export necessary at some point. | 17:26 |
| aelkner | that could work | 17:27 |
| th1a | It is pretty tabular data. | 17:27 |
| th1a | So... | 17:27 |
| th1a | We need to reach some conclusions here. | 17:28 |
| aelkner | i can't seem to get jelkner to answer any of my questions | 17:28 |
| th1a | Perhaps he's teaching. | 17:28 |
| aelkner | probably | 17:28 |
| th1a | Teaching is very distracting. | 17:28 |
| aelkner | to the teacher or the students? | 17:29 |
| aelkner | anyway... | 17:29 |
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| th1a | I think at this point they should focus on getting their local instance running. | 17:29 |
| aelkner | you mean instances plural, don't you? | 17:30 |
| th1a | Without routing everything through our repository. | 17:30 |
| th1a | I'm not even thinking about CanDo. | 17:30 |
| aelkner | ok | 17:30 |
| aelkner | so we're just talking about jelkner-gradebook | 17:30 |
| th1a | That's what I'm worried about. | 17:30 |
| th1a | In other news, I need August invoices from ignas and jfroche__. | 17:32 |
| th1a | I need to get paid. | 17:32 |
| th1a | Also, what do you have coming up this week, jfroche__? | 17:33 |
| ignas | hmm, i thought Aiste sent you the invoice | 17:33 |
| jfroche__ | oh right will do | 17:33 |
| jfroche__ | th1a: meeting with schooltool this week i hope and meeting with Nicolas tomorrow | 17:33 |
| jfroche__ | creating buildout for my school & moving to bzr | 17:34 |
| jfroche__ | Nicolas speaking about st to his new school which are more interested 'cause the old application they have doesn't get maintained anymore | 17:35 |
| ignas | th1a: by the way | 17:44 |
| ignas | for the date | 17:44 |
| ignas | could you pick a tuesday in the end of october | 17:44 |
| ignas | that would be good for you | 17:44 |
| th1a | jfroche__: Sorry... I was talking to jelkner on the phone. | 17:45 |
| Lumiere | I am out | 17:48 |
| Lumiere | have a code push to prep | 17:48 |
| * th1a drops the bag of gravel. | 17:48 | |
| * Lumiere detaches | 17:48 | |
| th1a | ignas & jfroche__: My wife booked my flights to and from Europe yesterday. | 17:48 |
| ignas | th1a: and what's the date? | 17:49 |
| th1a | So I'm landing in Vilnius on Oct. 28. | 17:49 |
| ignas | ok | 17:49 |
| ignas | and staying for how long? | 17:50 |
| th1a | Leaving Brussels Nov 3. | 17:50 |
| th1a | And I haven't decided when I'm flying to Brussels, but Wednesday seems the obvious time. | 17:50 |
| ignas | ok | 17:51 |
| ignas | i'll inform the school | 17:51 |
| th1a | jfroche__: That's interesting about Nicolas's new school. | 17:51 |
| th1a | ignas: Thanks. | 17:51 |
| jfroche__ | will do the same | 17:51 |
| th1a | jfroche__: Thanks. | 17:51 |
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| ignas | hmm, absolutely worst case of gradebook now renders in 3 - 4 seconds | 18:07 |
| ignas | now onto AJAX | 18:07 |
| ignas | to make it slower | 18:07 |
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| jfroche__ | ignas: just need this change for my branch to work: http://source.schooltool.org/trac/changeset/7194 | 18:51 |
| jfroche__ | my branch is now in http://svn.schooltool.org/schooltool/trunk/jacqmain/ with the history | 18:51 |
| jfroche__ | when you have time we can look on how to export this to bzr | 18:52 |
| jfroche__ | with the history | 18:52 |
| ignas | ok | 19:14 |
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