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| jelkner | th1a: mr. hoffman, u here? | 16:19 |
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| ignas | jinty: ayt? | 16:38 |
| jinty | ignas: yep | 16:39 |
| ignas | how's your vacation going? | 16:39 |
| jinty | hmm, well, I'm finished now :( | 16:39 |
| ignas | ouch, sorry | 16:39 |
| jinty | going full steam ahead resolving the backlog of issues.... | 16:39 |
| jinty | but, sitting on my parents veranda's not too bad | 16:40 |
| ignas | :) | 16:40 |
| jinty | anything you want to talk about? | 16:40 |
| ignas | i got a bit more experienced in this buildout thing, so i kind of like it now | 16:41 |
| ignas | (still hate it a bit) ;) | 16:41 |
| ignas | and now i am converting the buildout to work from a Makefile instead of a shell script | 16:41 |
| jinty | is there any piece of software you do like? ;P | 16:41 |
| * ignas thinking ... | 16:41 | |
| jinty | hmm, ok, sounds good | 16:41 |
| jinty | though it should probably still live outside the current trunk | 16:42 |
| jinty | indefinitely | 16:42 |
| ignas | definitely | 16:42 |
| ignas | what do you think if i will put it in bzr | 16:42 |
| ignas | will you still be able to help me out with it in some places ;) | 16:42 |
| ignas | with the makefile that is | 16:43 |
| jinty | I think that's an excellent first step in a migration to bzr | 16:43 |
| ignas | would be a "practice" of using bzr | 16:43 |
| jinty | yes, we could test out setting up a central repository on schooltool.org (or launchpad) | 16:44 |
| ignas | ok | 16:45 |
| ignas | i have moved lyceum into a separate folder by the way | 16:45 |
| ignas | so it is a plugin the same way cando is | 16:45 |
| jinty | perfect | 16:46 |
| jinty | but sure I can help you out with the Makefile | 16:46 |
| ignas | ok, i will tell you when i will put it up somewhere | 16:46 |
| ignas | i will need to redo some of our i18n infrastructure | 16:47 |
| jinty | though I think we should keep makefileness to a minimum and try get the most protability we can | 16:47 |
| ignas | to work with lyceum and schooltool being separate checkouts | 16:47 |
| jinty | out i18n infrastucture is mostly chewing gum and duct tape anyway | 16:48 |
| ignas | true | 16:48 |
| ignas | Martin Aspelli wrote a nice howto for buildouting plone and building products with it | 16:49 |
| ignas | if i will have time or find someone who is a good writer (Tom Hoffman for example) | 16:49 |
| ignas | http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/buildout/creating-a-buildout-for-your-project | 16:49 |
| ignas | rewriting it to suit SchoolTool | 16:49 |
| ignas | and having a howto on how to add your own extensions for schooltool | 16:50 |
| ignas | would be kind of nice | 16:50 |
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| ignas | jinty: i tried to gather some info #zope3-dev you might be interested in | 18:15 |
| ignas | i guess we will have to start tracking Zope3 eggs we depend on and take care about them being packaged too if we want to get into the next ubuntu release | 18:16 |
| jinty | ignas: I think a lot of people will be interested in packaging certain zope3 packages | 18:20 |
| jinty | we won't have to do them all | 18:20 |
| jinty | and having zope3 as split up packages will hopefully attract more people who use zope stuff as a library | 18:21 |
| ignas | we can hope, i just wanted to note that we can't rely on that happening | 18:22 |
| jinty | Packaging an individual egg is not very difficult | 18:22 |
| ignas | i guess | 18:22 |
| jinty | the problem comes when you have to go nannying upstream to release a proper tarball | 18:22 |
| jinty | find out if they are even making tags | 18:22 |
| jinty | and if the lisencing is correct so the distros will accept it | 18:23 |
| ignas | i hope there won't be too many zope.* packages that will have these kinds of problems | 18:24 |
| jinty | but I guess that we can stick to 3.4 for quite a while once it's actually released | 18:25 |
| Lumiere | 'morning all | 18:25 |
| jinty | my guess is I'll have to add the ZPL to every single one... | 18:25 |
| * jinty has an asbestos suit | 18:25 | |
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| ignas | jinty: http://staging.schooltool.org/bzr2/schooltool/lyceum-buildout | 18:36 |
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| jinty | ignas: is that a mirror? | 18:41 |
| ignas | no, it's "trunk" | 18:41 |
| ignas | "sftp://schooltool.org/var/local/bzr/schooltool/lyceum-buildout" | 18:41 |
| ignas | is the url if you want to do stuff directly with it | 18:41 |
| ignas | it should be mirrored in launchpad | 18:42 |
| ignas | so you can branch it and work on a branch, checkout it and work directly the svn way i think | 18:42 |
| ignas | and you can merge to it as you have ssh access to schooltool.org | 18:43 |
| ignas | it might even be broken because i have commited a change i didn't want to be there ;) | 18:44 |
| jinty | hmm, interesting | 18:44 |
| * jinty is trying to check it out | 18:44 | |
| jinty | and a checkins mailing list? | 18:44 |
| ignas | no idea, i think launchpad should do that | 18:45 |
| ignas | as it's mirroring the branch | 18:45 |
| ignas | so we will have a terrible delay | 18:45 |
| ignas | as mails get sent only when repository gets mirrored | 18:45 |
| ignas | if they do get sent at all | 18:45 |
| jinty | hmm, well, better than nothing | 18:46 |
| jinty | and fine for these kinds of branches | 18:47 |
| jinty | if I get some free time, I'll see if I can get buildbot to do something with is | 18:47 |
| jinty | it | 18:47 |
| ignas | https://code.launchpad.net/~ignas/schooltool/lyceum-buildout/+subscribe | 18:47 |
| ignas | for emails | 18:47 |
| jinty | definitely will try that | 18:48 |
| * ignas already hates bzr | 18:51 | |
| ignas | surprised are you? ;) | 18:51 |
| ignas | jinty: i love "slime" http://www.cliki.net/SLIME | 18:58 |
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| ignas | and don't hate it at all | 18:58 |
| ignas | ;) | 18:58 |
| jinty | ok, so now a real piece of software!!!! | 19:08 |
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| Lumiere | ignas: I hate bzr too... | 20:09 |
| Lumiere | I definately like svn over it | 20:09 |
| Lumiere | (bzr's nice for a single person local repository... not so nice for a real software app) | 20:10 |
| ignas | good enough for real app | 20:11 |
| ignas | but the speed | 20:11 |
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