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| jhancock_ | Hey aelkner | 03:05 |
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| aelkner | hey | 03:05 |
| aelkner | diner's coming to the table | 03:05 |
| aelkner | could we wait for 20 mins | 03:05 |
| jhancock_ | yep | 03:06 |
| jhancock_ | aelkner: what database should I install | 03:08 |
| jhancock_ | sqlLite? | 03:08 |
| aelkner | sure | 03:08 |
| eldar | jhancock, why do you need sql? | 03:09 |
| jhancock_ | dabo | 03:15 |
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| aelkner | eldar, i'm trying to get a couple of people involved with me on dabo | 03:23 |
| aelkner | maybe some day we could create a nice gui front end to zope apps | 03:23 |
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| aelkner | jhancock_ i'm back | 03:35 |
| jhancock_ | hey | 03:35 |
| aelkner | the tummy is full | 03:35 |
| jhancock_ | haha | 03:35 |
| jhancock_ | see if you can join #dabo | 03:35 |
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| jelkner | bvoung: can you see my private chat? | 16:01 |
| bvuong | yep | 16:24 |
| bvuong | anyone know how to use the find command. I'm trying to find the pkg_resources module on my computer | 16:38 |
| eldar | find . | grep pkg_resources | 16:39 |
| mgedmin | uhh | 16:39 |
| mgedmin | find /usr/lib -name 'pkg_resources*' | 16:40 |
| mgedmin | but then it could be in /usr/local | 16:40 |
| mgedmin | find / -name 'pkg_resources*' | 16:40 |
| mgedmin | but it will be slow | 16:40 |
| mgedmin | locate pkg_resources is faster, if you have slocate installed | 16:40 |
| bvuong | ok, thanks, I just found it, but its in my python2.5 site-packages folder. Do I just move it to the python2.4 site-packages folder? | 16:42 |
| eldar | bvuong, no. Are you having problems with your python-setuptools? | 16:44 |
| bvuong | yeah, kinda, I installed python2.4, but when I installed the setuptools, I think the computer put it in the python2.5 folder, instead of python2.4 | 16:45 |
| eldar | sudo apt-get remove python-setuptools; sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get install python-all-dev python-setuptools | 16:46 |
| eldar | run those commands, ; means a new line | 16:46 |
| bvuong | oh, I don't have ubuntu on my computer, I use fedora | 16:46 |
| eldar | -_- | 16:46 |
| bvuong | sorry :p | 16:46 |
| eldar | i don't know exact yum commands, or package names, so i'm just going to blindly throw commands | 16:46 |
| eldar | sudo yum remove python-setuptools | 16:47 |
| bvuong | it works | 16:47 |
| eldar | sudo yum clean (or whatever else removes the .rpms it downloaded) | 16:47 |
| Lumiere | ... eww fedora ... <_< | 16:47 |
| bvuong | oh well, blame my dad :p | 16:48 |
| eldar | bvuong, did you clean? | 16:49 |
| jelkner | bvuong: can you give me a phone number i can use to call you? | 16:49 |
| bvuong | didn't work, it said it required an option, I guess it meant a parameter | 16:49 |
| bvuong | jelkner: sure, should I give you my cell or home number? | 16:50 |
| jelkner | which ever you would like me to use | 16:50 |
| bvuong | well, I'll give you my home number, even though I'm not at home. (703) 532-9016 | 16:50 |
| jelkner | then how can i use it? | 16:51 |
| jelkner | i want to call you now | 16:51 |
| bvuong | ah | 16:51 |
| bvuong | ok, my cell is (703) 336-3870 | 16:51 |
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| bvuong | jelkner: I'm not sure if I could come to the ACC until 12, no one can take me til then. | 17:16 |
| jelkner | bvuong: ok, see you then | 17:26 |
| bvuong | ok, thanks, sorry | 17:26 |
| bvuong | so, you can't install ubuntu unless you have a disk? | 17:26 |
| jelkner | bvoung: btw see if you can figure out how to register with freenode | 17:27 |
| jelkner | so that you can have private chats | 17:27 |
| jelkner | yes, you need a disk | 17:27 |
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| ignas | th1a: ayt? | 19:05 |
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| th1a | hi ignas. | 19:21 |
| ignas | th1a: i need some destination address for my trip | 19:21 |
| ignas | as in - where i will be staying | 19:21 |
| ignas | which city or even airport should i fly to | 19:22 |
| th1a | jelkner: Can you answer ignas's query? | 19:22 |
| th1a | We're staying at http://www.gallaudet.edu/ | 19:22 |
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| th1a | http://www.gallaudet.edu/x156.xml | 19:24 |
| th1a | We are staying on campus... somewhere. | 19:24 |
| eldar | lol | 19:24 |
| th1a | eldar: Do you know the dorm? | 19:24 |
| eldar | th1a, jelkner knows, he's looking it up | 19:25 |
| th1a | Thanks. | 19:25 |
| jelkner | th1a: Carlin Hall | 19:25 |
| th1a | http://sa.gallaudet.edu/?ID=4394 | 19:26 |
| ignas | i see | 19:27 |
| ignas | should be good enough | 19:27 |
| ignas | (the info) | 19:27 |
| eldar | ignas, is there a magical function, that will give me the catalog if i give it the catalog name? | 19:27 |
| ignas | getUtility(ICatalog, PERSON_CATALOG_KEY) ? | 19:28 |
| ignas | for example | 19:28 |
| eldar | thank you :) | 19:30 |
| eldar | it's like magic | 19:30 |
| bnguyen | is trunk broken? | 19:52 |
| bnguyen | when i try to run i get the error: | 19:52 |
| bnguyen | AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'IBeforeObjectAssignedEvent' | 19:52 |
| mgedmin | according to http://source.schooltool.org/buildbot/, trunk is not broken | 19:53 |
| bnguyen | hmm | 19:53 |
| bnguyen | does anyone know why i would be getting that error? | 19:53 |
| mgedmin | could you pastebin the full traceback? | 19:53 |
| bnguyen | sure | 19:54 |
| wjohnsto | Lumiere: do you know what the sobby protocol is? | 19:55 |
| wjohnsto | e.g. TCP, UDP.. | 19:55 |
| eldar | TCP | 19:56 |
| wjohnsto | thanks eldar | 19:56 |
| lisppaste5 | bnguyen pasted "trunk error" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/45166 | 19:56 |
| ignas | bnguyen: do you have Zope3 installed on your ubuntu machine through apt-get? | 19:58 |
| bnguyen | i believe i do | 19:58 |
| bnguyen | let me check | 19:58 |
| bnguyen | oh no i don't | 19:59 |
| bnguyen | thanks | 19:59 |
| ignas | don't | 19:59 |
| ignas | it would have caused the error | 19:59 |
| ignas | but if you haven't got it - then it's strange ... | 20:00 |
| bnguyen | well since maddog went down I have to re-do everything on a new computer because I run Windows | 20:01 |
| eldar | bnguyen, maybe it's time to follow that advice i gave you about installing ubuntu | 20:02 |
| bnguyen | i was afraid you would say that | 20:02 |
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| bnguyen | i have zope now but i'm still getting the same error | 20:05 |
| wjohnsto | she doesn't need ubuntu as long as she can ssh into my computer | 20:06 |
| wjohnsto | I dual boot | 20:06 |
| eldar | how is she going to work on her own then? | 20:08 |
| wjohnsto | I leave my computer on all the time | 20:08 |
| eldar | hmm, not the best idea because of 2 things | 20:09 |
| eldar | 1. she is dependent on her neighbor for internet | 20:09 |
| wjohnsto | but bnguyen's problem is that she does not have the SchoolTool directory | 20:09 |
| eldar | 2. she will be dependent on you for a work machine | 20:09 |
| eldar | that is 2 dependencies, if #1 goes down, she loses #2 as well | 20:09 |
| wjohnsto | well hey, I'm not telling her she shouldn't get ubuntu | 20:09 |
| wjohnsto | it is easier though, since we're partners, to have our stuff in the exact same place | 20:10 |
| wjohnsto | eldar: when brittney went into her cando directory and ran the Makefile, shouldn't it have added the schooltool directory? | 20:11 |
| eldar | no, schooltool is an egg now | 20:12 |
| eldar | schooltool can be found in the eggs directory now | 20:12 |
| wjohnsto | oh ok | 20:13 |
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| fsufitch | hello evbody | 20:13 |
| wjohnsto | whois evbody? | 20:14 |
| fsufitch | <.< | 20:14 |
| fsufitch | /whois evbody | 20:14 |
| fsufitch | meh | 20:14 |
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| aelkner | pcardune: eldar and i were looking at the newskin and there's something you should know about what srichter had us do | 20:44 |
| aelkner | srichter wanted us to use z3c.form for our skin and NOT use page macros | 20:46 |
| aelkner | for better of for worse that's what he sugstd | 20:46 |
| aelkner | suggested | 20:46 |
| aelkner | so since all of our views use page macros, his suggestion was to derive new view classes from the existing ones | 20:47 |
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| fsufitch | eldar, could u take a look at the new logo look? | 20:48 |
| fsufitch | i'll PM u the url | 20:48 |
| eldar | i don't really like the idea of redoing every view | 20:48 |
| aelkner | i agre with eldar | 20:49 |
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| fsufitch | just the question of a newbie, but wouldnt it take a while to redo all of the page views? (time we don't have?) | 20:50 |
| eldar | fsufitch, yeah, it would be a big pain in the ass | 20:50 |
| fsufitch | nicely put | 20:50 |
| pcardune | aelkner: yeah, that might work out in the long run, but not in the short run | 20:55 |
| aelkner | right | 20:56 |
| pcardune | I'm working on overriding schooltool's macros | 20:56 |
| pcardune | with new ones that look like the cando skin | 20:56 |
| aelkner | pcardune: so you're working on getting the newskin to inherit from SchooltolSkin and then the macors will be usable? | 20:56 |
| pcardune | yeah | 20:56 |
| aelkner | ok | 20:56 |
| eldar | pcardune, are you doing it in your old version of the newskin or in the newskin branch? | 20:58 |
| pcardune | the newskin branch | 20:58 |
| eldar | how does it look to you? | 20:59 |
| pcardune | alright, the login screen is kind of intense though | 21:03 |
| pcardune | I've always been against those borders that make things look raised, unless it is done very carefully and in a subtle way | 21:03 |
| pcardune | eldar: ok, I got it to work sort of | 21:04 |
| pcardune | it will need more work, but it's a start | 21:04 |
| eldar | alrighty, what did you do? | 21:04 |
| Lumiere | hi pcardune | 21:06 |
| pcardune | hi Lumiere | 21:06 |
| pcardune | eldar: i'll commit it in a second | 21:06 |
| pcardune | eldar: ok, you can check it out | 21:08 |
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| eldar | ok, there are some bumps on the road | 21:12 |
| eldar | like some batching error | 21:12 |
| pcardune | yeah | 21:12 |
| eldar | but competencies work XD | 21:13 |
| pcardune | eldar: basically you need to modify view_macros.pt that I just added to include all the slots that are in schooltool's view_macros.pt | 21:13 |
| eldar | aha | 21:13 |
| eldar | it shouldn't be too hard, right? | 21:13 |
| pcardune | no | 21:14 |
| eldar | no, as in hard or not hard? | 21:14 |
| pcardune | just do a diff between view_macros.pt and template.pt in the newskin branch and you will see how I modified template.pt | 21:14 |
| pcardune | as in not ahrd | 21:14 |
| pcardune | hard | 21:14 |
| eldar | fsufitch, you have your new assignment then | 21:16 |
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| Lumiere | hi ignas | 21:16 |
| pcardune | eldar: I'm merging newskin into my evidence linking branch... should be interesting | 21:16 |
| Lumiere | lol | 21:16 |
| Lumiere | yes | 21:17 |
| ignas | hi | 21:17 |
| eldar | hi | 21:17 |
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| th1a | aelkner_: you have a fix for TinyZIS? | 21:19 |
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| fsufitch | eldar, thanks. | 21:22 |
| eldar | i already fixed the batch-search thingy, will commit it soon | 21:22 |
| pcardune | ok | 21:22 |
| eldar | our table css killed the gradebook lol | 21:23 |
| eldar | but i won't worry about that | 21:23 |
| pcardune | yeah don't worry about that | 21:23 |
| eldar | damn, it all works now XD | 21:23 |
| eldar | alright, the batch-search thing is fixed now | 21:25 |
| eldar | fsufitch, first, fix the quick bar for adding competencies and groups | 21:25 |
| fsufitch | what's wrong with it? | 21:25 |
| eldar | you'll see it when you go to competencies and just select any of the 3 | 21:25 |
| eldar | i guess it didn't find the js | 21:25 |
| eldar | and its css | 21:25 |
| fsufitch | ok... | 21:26 |
| eldar | it's supposed to be all red and nice | 21:26 |
| eldar | and actually do something when you click add, it doesn't | 21:26 |
| fsufitch | uh, do i need to make data for this? | 21:26 |
| eldar | data? | 21:26 |
| fsufitch | cuz i dont see 3 options, i only see "global" | 21:26 |
| fsufitch | and that links to the schooltool skin | 21:26 |
| eldar | nah, you can just use global | 21:26 |
| eldar | see the quick bar? | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | no | 21:27 |
| eldar | go to global | 21:27 |
| eldar | you'll see plain text | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | well, i do see it | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | but it's in the schooltool skin | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | so it works | 21:27 |
| eldar | update -_- | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | it doesnt use the newcando skin | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | gr fine | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | same thing... | 21:27 |
| fsufitch | updating didnt fix nuttin | 21:28 |
| fsufitch | wait, u changed python code | 21:28 |
| fsufitch | i'll recompile | 21:28 |
| fsufitch | that's better :) | 21:28 |
| fsufitch | eldar, the javascript for the page is literally: | 21:29 |
| fsufitch | 2Nothingness..sss | 21:29 |
| fsufitch | 3*/ | 21:29 |
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| eldar | i know | 21:31 |
| eldar | make it not so | 21:32 |
| fsufitch | >.< | 21:36 |
| fsufitch | eldar, do you mean write all the javascript? | 21:36 |
| fsufitch | or would it work if i stole schooltool's JS? | 21:36 |
| eldar | no .... | 21:36 |
| fsufitch | >.> | 21:36 |
| eldar | you need to make it find its own javascript | 21:36 |
| eldar | wherever it is | 21:36 |
| fsufitch | uh, ok | 21:36 |
| fsufitch | well, cando.js is the only place for javascript, and it's not there | 21:37 |
| fsufitch | so i'm going to need to find schooltool.js or something | 21:37 |
| eldar | no | 21:37 |
| eldar | the quickbar, is part of the virginia module | 21:37 |
| eldar | how about you go look at the original quickbar source | 21:37 |
| fsufitch | ok | 21:37 |
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| AVN` | hey, what happened to global competencies? | 21:41 |
| eldar | nothing | 21:41 |
| eldar | why? | 21:41 |
| AVN` | I don't see them | 21:42 |
| AVN` | let me look a bit more | 21:42 |
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| AVN` | yeah, why isn't it in the Navigation menu? | 21:44 |
| fsufitch | eldar, so what now? | 21:47 |
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| eldar | now | 21:49 |
| eldar | fix journals | 21:49 |
| fsufitch | um | 21:50 |
| fsufitch | specify? | 21:50 |
| eldar | apparently it relies a lot on the existing css | 21:50 |
| fsufitch | and the existing css is bad? | 21:50 |
| eldar | well, it uses our newcando skin's css | 21:51 |
| eldar | and we do some table css that kills it | 21:51 |
| fsufitch | ok | 21:53 |
| fsufitch | so i need to get the old table css and put it in? | 21:53 |
| fsufitch | or rewrite some css so that it looks good in the newskin? | 21:53 |
| eldar | i would rewrite it, as in in the journal templates put it on top in there | 21:53 |
| eldar | so it'll look good in both skins | 21:54 |
| eldar | but yeah, make the journal view independent of global css | 21:54 |
| eldar | as in use its own css declarations | 21:54 |
| eldar | you can use the extra-head to declare the css | 21:54 |
| fsufitch | oook | 21:55 |
| fsufitch | i'll have a field day with that :0 | 21:55 |
| fsufitch | *:) | 21:55 |
| AVN` | Are competencies now called commendations? | 21:55 |
| fsufitch | wtf, commendations? | 21:55 |
| fsufitch | eldar, could u send me a Data.fs file i could use? | 21:56 |
| fsufitch | i'm too lazy to make my own | 21:57 |
| eldar | yeah | 21:57 |
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| fsufitch | email? | 21:59 |
| wjohnsto | where is jelkner? | 22:00 |
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| Lumiere | pcardune / eldar is trunk stable enough | 22:01 |
| Lumiere | to push to semi-stable? | 22:01 |
| eldar | trunk as far as i know is older than newskin and paul's branches | 22:01 |
| pcardune | so, yes | 22:02 |
| Lumiere | ok | 22:02 |
| fsufitch | eldar, did u forget about the Data.fs? | 22:02 |
| fsufitch | >_< | 22:02 |
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| AVN` | filip do you stilll have compentencies in the old schooltool skin? | 22:10 |
| fsufitch | yeys | 22:15 |
| fsufitch | AVN`, havent i told u to tall me fsufitch too? | 22:15 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: here? | 22:17 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: yes | 22:17 |
| fsufitch | eldar, what does ":" do in a tal string? | 22:17 |
| fsufitch | wait, he's not at his comp... | 22:17 |
| fsufitch | >_< | 22:17 |
| Lumiere | having an odd svn issue: svn: The URL 'https://svn.schooltool.org/cando/trunk/plugins_available' has a different repository root than its parent | 22:17 |
| pcardune | fsufitch: that is just the syntax | 22:17 |
| pcardune | fsufitch: your question is synonymous with what does the ":" do in "for something:" | 22:18 |
| AVN` | fsufitch, i'll 'tall' you fsufitch from now on | 22:18 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: hmm, I've seen that before | 22:18 |
| Lumiere | and XD | 22:18 |
| fsufitch | <.< | 22:19 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: try doing svn info on plugins_available and seeing if it is different than doing svn info elsewhere | 22:19 |
| Lumiere | oh | 22:20 |
| Lumiere | had to use my username <_< | 22:20 |
| Lumiere | it was auto adding it | 22:20 |
| pcardune | eldar: you will want to merge my last commit to pcardune-evidence-linking to newskin. Maybe Lumiere can do that for you | 22:25 |
| pcardune | that's revision 1044 to be specific | 22:25 |
| eldar | uh. let's hope we didn't edit the same file | 22:25 |
| Lumiere | I can try in a sec | 22:26 |
| Lumiere | gotta figure out how to resolve conflicts on am erge | 22:26 |
| Lumiere | for a directory | 22:26 |
| pcardune | eldar: we did, but the merge should work I think | 22:27 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: resolving dir conflicts? | 22:28 |
| pcardune | no | 22:28 |
| Lumiere | I mean... how would one | 22:28 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: just 1044 | 22:28 |
| pcardune | oh | 22:28 |
| Lumiere | for cando-semistable | 22:28 |
| eldar | oh yeah, he just added some lines | 22:28 |
| Lumiere | to svn:ignore | 22:29 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: just blast away the directory in cando-semistable and do an svn copy from trunk | 22:29 |
| pcardune | for just that directory | 22:29 |
| Lumiere | it's root | 22:29 |
| Lumiere | I just edited manually | 22:30 |
| Lumiere | committing | 22:30 |
| wjohnsto | what does this error mean? | 22:32 |
| wjohnsto | PTRuntimeError: ['Compilation failed', 'zope.tal.taldefs.METALError: fill-slot must be within a use-macro, at line 2, column 1'] | 22:32 |
| mgedmin | it means that you have a fill-slot outside of a use-macro | 22:32 |
| mgedmin | duh | 22:32 |
| wjohnsto | ... | 22:32 |
| wjohnsto | :-\ | 22:32 |
| mgedmin | the way you use macros in page tempaltes | 22:33 |
| wjohnsto | failed by syntax again | 22:33 |
| Lumiere | pcardune: changes view_macros.pt? | 22:33 |
| mgedmin | is you add a metal:use-macro="..." on some element | 22:33 |
| wjohnsto | I got it | 22:33 |
| pcardune | Lumiere: yeah | 22:33 |
| mgedmin | and then inside that element you can have others with metal:fill-slot="..." | 22:33 |
| mgedmin | to replace bits of that macro | 22:33 |
| wjohnsto | instead of metal:use-macro | 22:33 |
| wjohnsto | I had metal use-macro | 22:34 |
| mgedmin | interesting | 22:34 |
| wjohnsto | thanks | 22:34 |
| wjohnsto | I always make those errors | 22:34 |
| Lumiere | done | 22:36 |
| Lumiere | brb | 22:36 |
| Lumiere | th1a: here? | 22:44 |
| wjohnsto | where can we change the port that our Schooltool instance runs on? | 22:49 |
| Lumiere | copy the cando.conf.in to cando.conf | 22:50 |
| Lumiere | and edit web port | 22:50 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 22:50 |
| wjohnsto | thankls | 22:50 |
| eldar | uh... everyone disappeared | 22:58 |
| Lumiere | did we miss eldar in the picture? | 23:08 |
| eldar | no we didn't | 23:09 |
| eldar | i can be photoshoped in later | 23:09 |
| bnguyen | what about me :( | 23:10 |
| Lumiere | you're a bit harde | 23:10 |
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| fsufitch | eldar, i'm almost done making the journals pretty, but there's a problem | 23:18 |
| fsufitch | there is no way for people to write in the journals | 23:18 |
| fsufitch | the old way was the actions menu | 23:18 |
| eldar | yeah, we're gonna put the actions menu in | 23:22 |
| eldar | don't worry | 23:23 |
| eldar | M-x replace we with you | 23:23 |
| Lumiere | i18n merged | 23:26 |
| bnguyen | thank you very much | 23:26 |
| bnguyen | now i don't have to bother you about it | 23:26 |
| Lumiere | yea I read that | 23:26 |
| Lumiere | merges occur when paul or eldar say "go for it" | 23:26 |
| Lumiere | :) | 23:26 |
| fsufitch | eldar, >_< | 23:26 |
| Lumiere | *tries tests again* | 23:26 |
| * pcardune drives to Portland to go to OSCON BoFs. Bye all | 23:30 | |
| Lumiere | bnguyen: soooooooooo | 23:34 |
| Lumiere | bnguyen: update your trunk svn | 23:34 |
| Lumiere | and run make ftest | 23:34 |
| Lumiere | fix the ftest :) | 23:35 |
| bnguyen | oh alright... | 23:35 |
| Lumiere | and ask fsufitch to help if needed | 23:35 |
| Lumiere | scratch that... work with fsufitch on it :) | 23:36 |
| Lumiere | he's being a pain in my ass | 23:36 |
| Lumiere | therefore.... | 23:36 |
| bnguyen | haha | 23:36 |
| fsufitch | <.< | 23:36 |
| fsufitch | i thought that's what the hammer was for... | 23:36 |
| Lumiere | "you had to open your big mouth" -> fsufitch | 23:36 |
| fsufitch | -.- | 23:37 |
| bnguyen | ah crap, wjohnsto turned of his computer... | 23:38 |
| eldar | alright, this is why i told you to install ubuntu | 23:38 |
| ccarey | how can we get an old instance of schooltool that still uses demographics person? | 23:38 |
| ccarey | we need it for "research" | 23:38 |
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| bnguyen | yes eldar, you were right | 23:39 |
| eldar | ccarey, you can go 2 ways: | 23:39 |
| eldar | 1. find the revision that the change was made, and check out the revision before it | 23:39 |
| eldar | 2. check out the 2006 schooltool | 23:39 |
| fsufitch | ccarey, i hope PETA won't be called in to take care of your "research" | 23:39 |
| Lumiere | who cares if PETA is called in | 23:40 |
| Lumiere | we'll just eat steaks | 23:40 |
| Lumiere | till they run away | 23:40 |
| fsufitch | <_< | 23:40 |
| ccarey | wtf? | 23:40 |
| bnguyen | ok i have to install ubuntu | 23:41 |
| bnguyen | i'll fix the ftests when it's done | 23:41 |
| Lumiere | k | 23:41 |
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| Lumiere | I'll get fsufitch to look at it ^^ | 23:41 |
| mlinnell | how do we check out an old version of schooltool? | 23:45 |
| eldar | you can specify a revision | 23:48 |
| eldar | when checking out | 23:48 |
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| mlinnell | what's the command? | 23:48 |
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| eldar | svn co -r revision_number url | 23:49 |
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| mlinnell | let me try that | 23:50 |
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