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| ignas | pcardune: how did st-buildout go? did you manage to run it? | 00:38 |
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| pcardune | ignas: have had any issues with docutils lately? | 00:38 |
| pcardune | ignas: yeah, it wants basicperson :) | 00:39 |
| ignas | just run bin/buildout -n | 00:39 |
| ignas | it should stop wanting basicperson | 00:39 |
| ignas | as for docutils - i think i have uninstalled them from my system | 00:39 |
| ignas | so - no issues | 00:39 |
| pcardune | because something is depending on docutils, and I believe the egg is broken | 00:40 |
| ignas | not the egg | 00:41 |
| ignas | if you have docutils installed in your system | 00:41 |
| ignas | you might get conflicts | 00:41 |
| ignas | though - what problems | 00:41 |
| ignas | and with which way of installing eggs | 00:41 |
| ignas | are you having? | 00:41 |
| pcardune | so I've got this zcontact application that uses eggs and buildout. it manages to install all the dependencies except for docutils | 00:43 |
| ignas | oh | 00:43 |
| ignas | buildout | 00:43 |
| ignas | sudo apt-get remove <docutils-package> | 00:43 |
| ignas | whatever it's called | 00:43 |
| ignas | or | 00:43 |
| ignas | find out the way to set docutils version in buildout.cfg | 00:43 |
| pcardune | hmm, now here is the problem, the machine I'm setting this up on - i don't have sudo access | 00:43 |
| ignas | and set it to 0.4.0 | 00:43 |
| ignas | or was it 0.4.1 | 00:44 |
| pcardune | it was 0.4.1 | 00:44 |
| ignas | problem is this | 00:44 |
| ignas | on ubuntu the version of docutils | 00:44 |
| ignas | is higher than the egg available on pypi | 00:44 |
| pcardune | joy! | 00:44 |
| ignas | so buildout finds the version in your site-packages | 00:44 |
| ignas | and tries to install it | 00:45 |
| ignas | which it can't as it's not an egg | 00:45 |
| pcardune | hmm | 00:45 |
| ignas | so either you set the version to be the one available on pypi | 00:45 |
| ignas | or add a docutils part to buildout.cfg | 00:45 |
| ignas | or use the script in st-buildout | 00:45 |
| ignas | to set up your own python | 00:45 |
| ignas | with buildout + eggs | 00:45 |
| pcardune | the last option sounds quite nice | 00:46 |
| ignas | and - write an email to distutils mailing list or zope3-dev and complain | 00:46 |
| ignas | because it seems like 90% of buildout users | 00:46 |
| ignas | want to use system python | 00:46 |
| ignas | so maybe if everyone will start ranting about it ;) jim will fix it | 00:47 |
| ignas | (he does not want to do that though) | 00:47 |
| pcardune | I don't want to run system python, but people like Jeff Elkner do want to | 00:47 |
| ignas | but maybe someone can convince him to at least add code to buildout that would ignore site-packages | 00:47 |
| ignas | of the system python | 00:47 |
| ignas | pcardune: that's why i spent whole day of the sprint making buildout build python | 00:48 |
| ignas | and then use that python to buildout schooltool | 00:48 |
| ignas | so that Jeff Elkner, or more or less anyone else could build schooltool | 00:48 |
| pcardune | yeah, that looks like a good solution | 00:48 |
| ignas | without asking me what to do with docutils ;) | 00:48 |
| ignas | if my script will work for you, feel free to post it on the net ;) others might find it useful too | 00:50 |
| pcardune | ok, i'll look into that | 00:50 |
| ignas | hmm, it's GPL | 00:51 |
| ignas | now that i think about it | 00:51 |
| ignas | at least should be, but i forgot to add the licence to the st-buildout project | 00:53 |
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| ignas | will have to ask th1a, or jinty about that | 00:53 |
| pcardune | ? | 00:53 |
| pcardune | whether it has been GPLed already? | 00:54 |
| ignas | do i have to, and who can use that code | 00:54 |
| ignas | and what are the rules | 00:54 |
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| pcardune | ignas: per your st-buildout stuff, I did the update and now it is asking for schooltool.note | 01:01 |
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| pcardune | ignas: so how do you install libxml2 for non-system python? | 01:26 |
| ignas | pcardune: buildout.cfg | 01:41 |
| pcardune | i guess this means I have to move cando to use buildout now | 01:41 |
| ignas | pcardune: there is a part that builds libxml2 | 01:41 |
| ignas | pcardune: you can copy schooltool buildout | 01:41 |
| pcardune | ignas: I saw that | 01:41 |
| ignas | but replace schooltool with cando | 01:41 |
| * pcardune in process of copying | 01:41 | |
| * ignas will commit the schooltool.note | 01:42 | |
| ignas | pcardune: if you want to you can look at schooltool.paste some time later and do something simmilar for cando | 01:45 |
| pcardune | ignas: Now, I'll want to actually use develop = cando, rather than parts = cando right? | 01:45 |
| ignas | just with a zcml that is more suitable for cando | 01:45 |
| pcardune | ignas: yes, i do want to do that | 01:45 |
| ignas | you can use both | 01:45 |
| ignas | first you do parts cando | 01:45 |
| ignas | so that everyone could use it | 01:45 |
| ignas | then you add a line | 01:45 |
| ignas | develop = cando | 01:45 |
| ignas | and checkout cando into ./cando | 01:46 |
| ignas | if you will want to have both cando and schooltool | 01:46 |
| pcardune | hmm | 01:46 |
| ignas | just add schooltool to the develop list | 01:46 |
| ignas | and make a schooltool checkout | 01:46 |
| ignas | development eggs take precedence over eggs installed in eggs folder | 01:46 |
| pcardune | ah, interesting | 01:47 |
| pcardune | that is very handy | 01:47 |
| pcardune | now, I can just include this buildout process in cando root checkout directory | 01:47 |
| ignas | yep, you can work on both projects now without much hassle | 01:47 |
| pcardune | and say develop . | 01:47 |
| ignas | you can try that | 01:47 |
| * ignas still would prefer to use system python, but without site-packages | 01:49 | |
| ignas | would make it a lot cleaner | 01:49 |
| ignas | and allow us to use eggs cache | 01:49 |
| ignas | good night | 01:50 |
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| ignas | jinty: ping | 15:06 |
| jinty | ignas: pong | 15:06 |
| ignas | my idea is this | 15:06 |
| ignas | remove schooltool.paste from setup.py | 15:06 |
| ignas | so it would not be packaged | 15:06 |
| ignas | and remove it's dependencies | 15:07 |
| ignas | and wait until release to enable them | 15:07 |
| jinty | but the dependencies of schooltool.paste are already in ubuntu | 15:07 |
| jinty | ? | 15:07 |
| ignas | hmm, PasteScript and PasteDeploy are there? | 15:07 |
| jinty | so someone has already paid the technical debt | 15:07 |
| ignas | oh :) | 15:07 |
| jinty | apt-get install python-pastedeploy | 15:07 |
| ignas | then i'll just look if we depend on zope.paste and remove WSGIUtils | 15:08 |
| jinty | apt-get install python-pastescript | 15:08 |
| jinty | didn't look for WSGIUtils, might be packaged as well | 15:08 |
| jinty | pretty sure zope.paste isn't, but I might be wrong | 15:09 |
| jinty | was it in the last zope3 tarball | 15:09 |
| jinty | ? | 15:09 |
| ignas | no | 15:09 |
| ignas | but we don't need it i think | 15:09 |
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| jinty | ignas: could you also make sure your stuff works with the versions in feisty? | 15:10 |
| ignas | could you give me a link to versions in feisty? | 15:11 |
| ignas | i'd be more than glad to freeze all eggs in buildout.cfg | 15:11 |
| ignas | would make updating way faster | 15:11 |
| ignas | now i must wait until buildout checks all 137 dependencies | 15:11 |
| jinty | ignas: buildout is the right place to freeze dependencies, this might make it easy: http://svn.zope.org/zc.buildout/trunk/specifications/Reproducability.txt?rev=69662&view=markup | 15:31 |
| jinty | also for feisty versions, see packages.ubuntu.com | 15:32 |
| ignas | saw that, but i want to know which versions should i use | 15:32 |
| ignas | ouch, and go through all of them? don't we have a list of deps in some format in schooltool.deb? | 15:32 |
| ignas | hmm, i can see schoolbell in there | 15:33 |
| ignas | http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/python/ | 15:33 |
| jinty | yeah, probably the old package | 15:34 |
| jinty | never got removed | 15:34 |
| ignas | Unused options for buildout: 'create-repeatable'. :/ | 15:41 |
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| eldar | hi all | 16:12 |
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| mgedmin | ignas: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/zc.buildout/+spec/repeatable | 16:25 |
| mgedmin | "Implementation: Not started" | 16:25 |
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| ignas | jinty: seems like packages in feisty are quite outdated | 16:39 |
| ignas | or the list is old | 16:39 |
| jinty | it's normal that the feisty packages are old | 16:40 |
| jinty | it was released a while back. | 16:40 |
| jinty | that's what stability means | 16:40 |
| ignas | i see | 16:40 |
| jinty | cando would _really_ like us to carry on being compatible with feisty | 16:40 |
| ignas | which Zope3 version can i expect in there? | 16:40 |
| jinty | we re-package zope in our repository | 16:41 |
| jinty | (you can think of it as a feisty extension) | 16:41 |
| ignas | schooltool will include it's own zope? | 16:41 |
| jinty | so there's zope 3.4 there | 16:41 |
| jinty | no | 16:41 |
| jinty | it uses jinty's special updated zope masala | 16:42 |
| * ignas is confused about what to do with zope.app.applicationcontrol-3.4_dev_r73715 | 16:42 | |
| ignas | and similar eggs | 16:42 |
| jinty | shoot it in the head? | 16:42 |
| * pcardune wonders why svn checkouts hang like the dickens | 16:42 | |
| jinty | yeah, well, that's zope 3.4's current release process for you | 16:42 |
| jinty | actually, the zope3 package is made from the released zope tarball | 16:43 |
| ignas | PasteDeploy has no feisty eggs available | 16:43 |
| jinty | really? | 16:43 |
| ignas | PyPi has only PasteDeploy 1.3.1 | 16:43 |
| ignas | feisty - python-pastedeploy 1.1 | 16:44 |
| jinty | http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=python-pastedeploy | 16:44 |
| jinty | ah, yeah | 16:44 |
| jinty | then try building one from this: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/p/pastedeploy/pastedeploy_1.1.orig.tar.gz | 16:44 |
| ignas | and put it where ? | 16:45 |
| * jinty really wants his apt-repository --> egg repository script right now!!!! | 16:45 | |
| jinty | ftp.schooltool.org ? | 16:46 |
| ignas | ok | 16:46 |
| ignas | and repeat that for all feisty eggs that are unavailable in pypi? | 16:46 |
| ignas | except for Zope3 eggs | 16:47 |
| ignas | which are kind of tricky | 16:47 |
| jinty | well, the script I was talking about would do all of that for uw | 16:48 |
| jinty | us | 16:48 |
| ignas | i know | 16:49 |
| jinty | hmm, I just want it to kinda work with the stuff in feisty | 16:50 |
| jinty | I can run the tests on an installed schooltool if needs be | 16:50 |
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| jinty | but I think you need lots of infrastructure before you can do it properly | 16:51 |
| ignas | what should i do about z3c and zc eggs that were not released for feisty | 16:51 |
| jinty | But I just won't have the time to do anything until the end of august | 16:51 |
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| jinty | those are packaged in our repository | 16:52 |
| jinty | as zope3 is | 16:52 |
| jinty | hmm | 16:52 |
| ignas | can you give me the link to that repository | 16:52 |
| ignas | so i would know which egg versions to hardcode for buildout | 16:52 |
| jinty | http://ftp.schooltool.org/schooltool/archives/ubuntu/ | 16:53 |
| jinty | add deb http://ftp.schooltool.org/schooltool/archives/ubuntu/ feisty main to your sources.list | 16:53 |
| jinty | then you can use apt-cache to search through the packages | 16:54 |
| jinty | like "apt-cache search python-zc | 16:54 |
| jinty | as for the packages in the zope tarball, I think the latest 3.4 package should be good | 16:55 |
| jinty | as that's what will be in the final tarball | 16:55 |
| ignas | ZODB3.6 | 16:56 |
| jinty | I thought it was 3.8 | 16:57 |
| jinty | ... | 16:57 |
| jinty | we're targeting zope3.4 | 16:58 |
| jinty | so I think that's ZODB3.8 | 16:58 |
| * jinty re-packaged zope3.4 in his repository | 16:59 | |
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| jinty | ignas: if there's anything that's a big problem for you, we can re-package it and override the feisty version | 17:04 |
| jinty | so don't worry too much about getting it absolutely correct if it costs you a lot of effort | 17:05 |
| ignas | hmm hurry query is only available as hurry.query 0.9.2 | 17:05 |
| ignas | but your package is 0.9.3 | 17:06 |
| ignas | and there is no such egg | 17:06 |
| jinty | yes, the only difference is I made 0.9.3 | 17:06 |
| jinty | and the only difference is that 0.9.3 contains better lisence headers | 17:06 |
| ignas | you should upload it somewhere | 17:07 |
| jinty | I'll put it on schooltool.org | 17:07 |
| jinty | after lunch | 17:07 |
| ignas | available resourcelibrary egg is older than the one in schooltool debian source | 17:35 |
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| ignas | and zope.html | 17:43 |
| jelkner | pcardune: r u here? | 17:45 |
| eldar | So about the changes to the new interface ... | 17:45 |
| eldar | Lemme just quote: "My hoteli kak lutsche, no poluchilos' kak vsegda." | 17:46 |
| ignas | :D | 17:47 |
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| ignas | jinty: and zope.wfmc has a 3.4.0 egg available it seems | 17:49 |
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| jinty | ignas: yep, those ones I made one I made | 17:50 |
| ignas | ? | 17:50 |
| jinty | I made the wfmc eggs a while back | 17:52 |
| ignas | oh | 17:52 |
| jinty | ignas: hurry.query egg uploaded | 17:55 |
| jinty | or tarball | 17:55 |
| jinty | want me to upload the other eggs I've got? | 17:56 |
| ignas | pytz only 2007f is available feisty uses 2007c | 17:56 |
| ignas | i guess i'll package it | 17:56 |
| jinty | that's compatible enough for me | 17:56 |
| jinty | :) | 17:56 |
| ignas | ok | 17:57 |
| jinty | do you need one of these: | 17:57 |
| jinty | zope.file-0.2dev-r74232.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | zope.file-0.3dev-r77904.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | zope.html-0.1dev-r77906.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | zope.mimetype-1.1dev-r77905.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | zope.ucol-1.0.2-r77900.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | ? | 17:57 |
| jinty | zc.catalog-1.2b-r77365.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | zc.datetimewidget-0.6.1dev-r72453.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| jinty | zc.resourcelibrary-0.7dev-r73623.tar.gz | 17:57 |
| ignas | file is there it seems, i need html one and mimetype, | 17:58 |
| ignas | widget is there too | 17:58 |
| ignas | i need resourcelibrary as well | 17:58 |
| ignas | i am using 1.0.2 ucol though | 17:59 |
| jinty | yes, my tarball just includes the ZPL as an extra | 18:00 |
| jinty | ok, just uploaded quite a few things | 18:00 |
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| lisppaste5 | ignas pasted "Packages we have not packaged yet" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/44681 | 18:10 |
| ignas | don't shoot me, i am just a messenger | 18:11 |
| eldar | damn, that's a lot | 18:11 |
| ignas | most of them are in Zope3.4 release | 18:11 |
| ignas | but not all :( | 18:11 |
| ignas | removed zope.paste | 18:13 |
| Lumiere | did zope corp release zope 3.4? | 18:33 |
| ignas | nope | 18:33 |
| ignas | i think not | 18:33 |
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| mattva01 | im working on setting timeclock up | 18:45 |
| mattva01 | but it seems iv forgotten a few steps | 18:46 |
| jelkner | well, nick is on #mooo | 18:56 |
| jelkner | why don't you ask him for help | 18:56 |
| ignas | jinty: DEBUG: copying src/schooltool/locales/vi/LC_MESSAGES/.svn/README.txt -> build/lib/schooltool/locales/vi/LC_MESSAGES/.svn | 19:03 |
| jinty | huh!!!?? | 19:03 |
| jinty | ignas: which are not in zope3.4 release and have not been packaged? | 19:04 |
| ignas | buldbot | 19:04 |
| ignas | egg packaging test | 19:05 |
| ignas | egg packing i mean | 19:05 |
| jinty | hmm, should be ignoring all directories starting with . | 19:05 |
| ignas | jinty: hmm, i'd guess all of the non zope.* ones | 19:05 |
| jinty | er, but all tests pass without those then... | 19:06 |
| jinty | could they be cando dependencies | 19:06 |
| jinty | and not ours | 19:06 |
| jinty | look at the log of setup.py for patches to revert | 19:07 |
| jinty | :) | 19:07 |
| ignas | jinty: hmm | 19:07 |
| ignas | error: Setup script exited with error in zope.html setup command: Distribution contains no modules or packages for namespace package 'zope' | 19:07 |
| jinty | Huh?!? | 19:08 |
| ignas | 'zope.html==0.1dev-r77906' | 19:08 |
| jinty | hrmpf, can you just use the one from svn.zope.org | 19:12 |
| jinty | I don't have time to track that down | 19:12 |
| ignas | ok | 19:12 |
| jinty | ignas: also those .svn files seem to be a bug in setuptools making eggs | 19:16 |
| jinty | the version on the server is a little old | 19:16 |
| jinty | they aren't in the tarbll | 19:16 |
| jinty | should we stop compiling the eggs and just make tarballs? | 19:16 |
| ignas | zope.html - has something broken with namespace packages | 19:17 |
| ignas | don't know really | 19:17 |
| jinty | looks more or less fine to me... | 19:17 |
| jinty | zope.html that is | 19:17 |
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| ignas | error: Setup script exited with error in zope.html setup command: Distribution contains no modules or packages for namespace package 'zope' | 19:23 |
| ignas | /tmp/easy_install-M__A0C/zope.html-0.1dev-r77906/egg-dist-tmp-_Njiez | 19:23 |
| * jinty checks the tarball | 19:24 | |
| mattva01 | is paul here? | 19:25 |
| Lumiere | no | 19:25 |
| Lumiere | well pcardune is online but | 19:25 |
| Lumiere | I haven't heard anything | 19:26 |
| mattva01 | ah nevermind | 19:26 |
| mattva01 | i see what to do | 19:26 |
| jinty | ignas: svn log -r 7010:7012 setup.py | 19:27 |
| ignas | jinty: saw that, fixed it, running tests before commiting | 19:27 |
| * jinty sucessfully untars zope.html-0.1dev-r77906.tar.gz and runs python setup.py bdist_egg | 19:31 | |
| jinty | cant replicate it it seems | 19:31 |
| * jinty goes to swim | 19:33 | |
| mattva01 | does anyone know how to make zopeskel for timeclock | 19:35 |
| ignas | jinty: it's not packing, it's unpacking that's broken | 19:41 |
| eldar | mattva01, you run make in your timeclock folder | 19:44 |
| mattva01 | oh yeah | 19:45 |
| lisppaste5 | jinty pasted "unpacking zope.html for ignas, works for me" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/44686 | 19:49 |
| ignas | jinty: can you try removing the freeze on zope.html in schooltool setup.py | 19:50 |
| ignas | and running "make run" | 19:50 |
| ignas | to update the thing | 19:50 |
| ignas | you might have to delete the old egg | 19:50 |
| jinty | Installed distribution ZODB3 3.8.0b2 conflicts with requirement ZODB3>=3.9.0-dev-r77011 | 19:51 |
| ignas | rm -rf ./eggs | 19:52 |
| ignas | by the way - maybe just maybe it would be possible to build the egg before running tests just make it available through some other url | 19:53 |
| ignas | and symlink/copy it to the usual place | 19:53 |
| ignas | if tests pass | 19:53 |
| ignas | so i would not have to wait until test pass on muskatas to test my setup.py fixes | 19:54 |
| ignas | though that's for later i guess | 19:54 |
| mattva01 | anyone know what this is ? " AttributeError: 'wrapper_descriptor' object has no attribute 'im_func' | 19:54 |
| mattva01 | " | 19:54 |
| ignas | nope | 19:54 |
| mattva01 | nvm | 19:55 |
| mattva01 | sorry | 19:55 |
| jelkner | mattva01: sorry to you too ;-) | 19:56 |
| mattva01 | :) | 19:57 |
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| lhuynh | ping bao | 20:19 |
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| bvuong | lhuynh: since the maddog server is down, I can't really do documentations, anything else I can do? | 21:05 |
| Lumiere | why can't you do documentation | 21:05 |
| bvuong | the environment for the schooltool documentations was on maddog | 21:08 |
| mattva01 | oh ok | 21:09 |
| mattva01 | one sec | 21:09 |
| Lumiere | mattva01: he's all yours | 21:09 |
| mattva01 | yep | 21:09 |
| bvuong | ? | 21:09 |
| mattva01 | bao ,give me 5 minutes | 21:09 |
| bvuong | ok | 21:09 |
| mattva01 | it is going to be on alan.elkner.net | 21:11 |
| bvuong | ok | 21:12 |
| bvuong | wait, how am I going to get on it? | 21:12 |
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| mattva01 | i'll put it up on apache | 21:21 |
| mattva01 | one sec,this hard drive is having trouble mounting | 21:22 |
| bvuong | ok, will I be able to login to it? | 21:22 |
| mattva01 | oh wait what is your documentation called? | 21:23 |
| mattva01 | where was it located on maddog? | 21:23 |
| bvuong | you mean the directory? | 21:23 |
| mattva01 | yeah | 21:24 |
| bvuong | /home/bvuong/cando/Schooltool/src/schooltool/ | 21:24 |
| mattva01 | damn | 21:24 |
| bvuong | why, what happened? | 21:24 |
| mattva01 | i didnt copy home directories | 21:24 |
| mattva01 | just bzr branches | 21:24 |
| bvuong | ah | 21:24 |
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| Lumiere | eldar: *poke* | 21:45 |
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| Lumiere | hi jinty | 21:56 |
| jinty | Lumiere: ? | 21:57 |
| Lumiere | just hi | 21:57 |
| jinty | ah, hi!! | 21:58 |
| bvuong | mattva01: ever fixed my problem? just wandering | 22:04 |
| mattva01 | i can't until I get to school, | 22:05 |
| mattva01 | remember maddog has no connection to the internet | 22:05 |
| mattva01 | long story | 22:05 |
| bvuong | I know, maddog is down | 22:06 |
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| eldar | http://cando.schooltool.org/development/checking-out-from-the-cando-repository | 22:22 |
| eldar | use it to get cando! | 22:22 |
| Lumiere | eldar: ++skin++NewCanDoSkin isn't working | 22:23 |
| eldar | it's ++skin++NewCanDo | 22:24 |
| Preetam | alright, done installing cando | 22:30 |
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| eldar | jelkner, when are you getting back? | 23:28 |
| jelkner | we are at yorktown | 23:38 |
| jelkner | matt almost is finished | 23:38 |
| jelkner | 5 more minutes i can leave | 23:38 |
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