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| filip101 | hey pplz | 02:38 |
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| filip101 | about the meeting saturday at the ACC | 02:39 |
| filip101 | is there anybody i can carpool with in the morning? | 02:39 |
| filip101 | i live in Chantilly | 02:39 |
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| datruaznlegend | filip, see me now? | 03:20 |
| filip101 | uh, plz get off this channel | 03:20 |
| filip101 | this is #schooltool | 03:20 |
| filip101 | meet me on #tjpbem5 | 03:20 |
| datruaznlegend | k | 03:20 |
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| filip101 | so anyway, can I carpool with anybody from the chantilly area? | 03:25 |
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| wdickers | th1a: you there? | 15:38 |
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| ACSpike[Work] | morning | 16:36 |
| ignas | hi | 16:37 |
| ACSpike[Work] | well, I think I have found people at two of our private schools in the area that would be willing to help me write up some requirements and test schooltool, if I wanted to start doing some "for me" development | 16:38 |
| ACSpike[Work] | kinda hard to get motivated though when I don't know if they are really interested in using it | 16:39 |
| ACSpike[Work] | is there any write up on the "school year switch" problem on the website or on the ml? | 16:46 |
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| ACSpike[Work] | I don't think I have the right words to talk about it | 16:58 |
| ignas | ACSpike[Work]: no there is none | 17:01 |
| ignas | ACSpike[Work]: why do you need it? | 17:01 |
| ACSpike[Work] | to get up to speed on the discussion | 17:02 |
| ACSpike[Work] | with the hope that I might have somethign to contribute | 17:02 |
| ACSpike[Work] | :-) | 17:03 |
| ACSpike[Work] | I've been thinking that our system doesn't really have a big magical single switch | 17:03 |
| ACSpike[Work] | we've got a number of semesters in the database | 17:03 |
| ACSpike[Work] | there is a default current semester | 17:04 |
| ACSpike[Work] | but the people who need to make reports for past semesters and enroll students for upcomming semesters can move their own current semester to do their work | 17:04 |
| ignas | hmm | 17:26 |
| ignas | interesting | 17:26 |
| ignas | what about objects that persist among semesters? | 17:26 |
| ACSpike[Work] | as I was saying the other day, problems is that some semesters tend to overlap (I won't point fingers for that ;-) ) | 17:27 |
| ignas | like - a group that is in 2 semesters but had different members in the last semester for example | 17:27 |
| ACSpike[Work] | ok, my system doesn't deal with groups like that | 17:27 |
| ignas | having 2 semesters isolated would make it easier, but i am worried about current semantics of schooltool.relationships ... | 17:28 |
| ACSpike[Work] | I have some groups that exist for the web portal based on properties of the object and which semster it is though | 17:28 |
| ACSpike[Work] | like I have a sophomors group | 17:28 |
| ignas | i see | 17:28 |
| ACSpike[Work] | oh, you know I'm doing this in a realtional database, so it isn't exactly objects | 17:28 |
| ACSpike[Work] | but I have students and student instances | 17:29 |
| ACSpike[Work] | students stores student data that is unique to the student | 17:29 |
| ACSpike[Work] | instances stores data that is unique to the student in a specific semster | 17:29 |
| ignas | hmm | 17:31 |
| ACSpike[Work] | I need to look more at schooltools architecture | 17:32 |
| ACSpike[Work] | I have noooo clue | 17:32 |
| ignas | :) | 17:35 |
| ACSpike[Work] | students, instructors, courses all have that setup | 17:36 |
| ACSpike[Work] | trying to think of a better example of my dynamic groups setup | 17:37 |
| ACSpike[Work] | eh, after looking the groups aren't that impressive. I've got class groups (which should be based on credits dynamically, but currently aren't) | 17:46 |
| ACSpike[Work] | also have things like "newstudents" which is student that are new in the particular semster | 17:47 |
| ACSpike[Work] | ignas: some of the sis's I've heard of sound like they might have some concept of "district" as well as individual schools | 17:51 |
| ACSpike[Work] | schooltool have that? | 17:51 |
| ignas | no, not really | 17:52 |
| ACSpike[Work] | I think it is outside of the scope of anything I would use it for | 17:52 |
| ACSpike[Work] | maybe it would be possible to "federate" a number of schooltool instances into a district using xmlrpc | 17:52 |
| th1a | We're just trying to get one school at a time right at this point. | 17:53 |
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| ACSpike[Work] | and have a districttool | 17:53 |
| ACSpike[Work] | :-) | 17:53 |
| ACSpike[Work] | th1a: of course! I was just wondering | 17:53 |
| th1a | It wouldn't be too hard to create a district container that would hold multiple SchoolTool instances. | 17:53 |
| ACSpike[Work] | cool | 17:54 |
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| ACSpike[Work] | I apologize for being consistenly so clueless, I've been to busy with SoC and end of year to do much study | 17:55 |
| ACSpike[Work] | um, so someone else owns the trademark on schooltool? http://www.schooltool.com/flash_index.html | 18:25 |
| ACSpike[Work] | that is less than cool | 18:26 |
| ACSpike[Work] | oh, actually it looks to be dead http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=b9afb0.2.1 | 18:31 |
| ACSpike[Work] | dunno about this one http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=b9afb0.2.2 | 18:32 |
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