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| wjohnsto | pcardune: ayt? | 03:30 |
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| wjohnsto | I don't want to bother you if you have to study for finals... :-\ | 03:30 |
| pcardune | wjohnsto: I'm here | 03:31 |
| pcardune | what's up? | 03:31 |
| wjohnsto | I am having trouble with my Page Templates, once again | 03:31 |
| wjohnsto | pcardune: when I automatically setup my containers, they don't seem to follow what I have set in my page templates | 03:33 |
| wjohnsto | it seems to be a problem with the TAL commands | 03:33 |
| wjohnsto | but I cannot seem to figure out why | 03:33 |
| pcardune | what error message are you getting wjohnsto? | 03:33 |
| wjohnsto | there is no error message | 03:33 |
| wjohnsto | the page template works | 03:34 |
| wjohnsto | but the TAL references do not | 03:34 |
| pcardune | can you give me an example? | 03:34 |
| pcardune | or maybe paste the code? | 03:34 |
| wjohnsto | http://maddog.yhspatriot.net:8120/ | 03:34 |
| wjohnsto | if you look at the "SEPG" or "My Courses" containers | 03:35 |
| wjohnsto | you'll see what I'm talking about | 03:35 |
| wjohnsto | the containers that I have set to automatically appear with the SEPG package do not appear in the zope.View | 03:35 |
| pcardune | it should be pretty straightforaward | 03:36 |
| wjohnsto | however, if you add a random container (go ahead and try it yourself) it works | 03:36 |
| wjohnsto | that's what I thought until it didn't work | 03:36 |
| pcardune | just <div tal:repeat="value context/values" tal:content="value" /> | 03:36 |
| pcardune | I've got to run to dinner before everyone leaves without me... | 03:37 |
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| pcardune | but I'll probably be back in a bit if you are still around | 03:37 |
| wjohnsto | <div tal:repeat="divisioncontainer context/values"> | 03:37 |
| wjohnsto | <a tal:attributes="href divisioncontainer/@@absolute_url" | 03:37 |
| wjohnsto | tal:content="divisioncontainer/title" | 03:37 |
| wjohnsto | > | 03:37 |
| wjohnsto | Division Container Title | 03:37 |
| wjohnsto | </a> | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | </div> | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | oh ok | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | that's what I have | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | I'll just shoot you an email | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | so you can get to it on your own time | 03:38 |
| pcardune | ok | 03:38 |
| pcardune | thanks | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | np | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | thanks for the help | 03:38 |
| wjohnsto | ;) | 03:38 |
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| herpez | hi, well i try to do make test it gives ImportError: No module named libxml2 | 05:12 |
| herpez | how can i solve this? | 05:16 |
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| * jinty wonders where he can find the schema for the REST interface | 11:22 | |
| jinty | ahhh, of course its very sensibly embedded in python code... | 11:28 |
| jinty | /end sarcasim | 11:29 |
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| gpaci | pcardune: Hey, Paul! | 18:28 |
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| pcardune | gpaci: hi george | 20:38 |
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| ACSpike[Work] | one of the teachers I know who is looking for a SIS just hit me with the topic of "hot lunch management" | 21:06 |
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| th1a | pcardune: ayt? | 21:19 |
| pcardune | th1a: yep | 21:19 |
| th1a | I'm trying a new checkout of pcardune-gradebook-improvements on a basically clean feisty install. | 21:20 |
| th1a | When I do 'make' I get "No module named ZConfig.cfgparser." | 21:20 |
| pcardune | hmmm | 21:20 |
| pcardune | that is odd | 21:20 |
| th1a | It isn't trying to download zope first. | 21:20 |
| pcardune | I haven't seen that error before | 21:20 |
| th1a | Which is probably the problem. | 21:21 |
| pcardune | did you have a problem making it the first time where zope svn timed out or something? | 21:21 |
| pcardune | 'cause that would do it | 21:21 |
| th1a | It never worked. | 21:21 |
| pcardune | is there a Zope3 directory in the checkout? | 21:22 |
| pcardune | if there is, it will skip trying to check zope out | 21:22 |
| th1a | Is this using the new build system? | 21:22 |
| pcardune | no | 21:22 |
| pcardune | I have not merged those modifications into that branch | 21:22 |
| pcardune | yet | 21:22 |
| th1a | jinty: ayt? | 21:30 |
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| wjohnsto | pcardune: hello | 23:15 |
| wjohnsto | I sent you another email/ I am writing another one just now because I forgot to include something | 23:15 |
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| pcardune | Hi wjohnsto | 23:22 |
| pcardune | I'm surprised that what you have in your pt file even compiled as it it not valid xhtml | 23:22 |
| wjohnsto | mmk | 23:22 |
| pcardune | you are missing quotes for the tal:content attribtue | 23:22 |
| wjohnsto | oh yes | 23:23 |
| wjohnsto | well I was rushed at the end of class | 23:23 |
| wjohnsto | it was "string:${group/title}" | 23:23 |
| wjohnsto | and I think I was in the middle of editing it when class ended | 23:23 |
| pcardune | and you don't need to use string... you can just put "group/title" | 23:23 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 23:23 |
| wjohnsto | but when I did that as I recall the containers did not show up | 23:24 |
| pcardune | also, it seems that none of your pt files were added to your branch | 23:25 |
| pcardune | you might have forgotten to add the explicitly | 23:25 |
| gpaci | pcardune: Hello. | 23:26 |
| wjohnsto | oh, ok I just did that | 23:26 |
| pcardune | hi gpaci | 23:27 |
| gpaci | pcardune: Still schooltooling along? What country are you in this week? | 23:27 |
| wjohnsto | it's finals ;) | 23:27 |
| wjohnsto | goodluck | 23:28 |
| pcardune | wjohnsto: did you commit after adding? | 23:28 |
| wjohnsto | yes | 23:28 |
| pcardune | gpaci: I'm in the states | 23:28 |
| pcardune | Walla Walla WA to be specific | 23:28 |
| pcardune | but in a few week I'll be in Thailand... | 23:28 |
| gpaci | pcardune: That always sounds like someone got interrupted... | 23:28 |
| gpaci | For the whole summer? | 23:28 |
| pcardune | no, just for a couple weeks to visit my parents | 23:29 |
| gpaci | Oh. Do you have a summer job or internship or anything? | 23:29 |
| gpaci | (Plus I thought they were in Senegal or Gambia or somewhere.) | 23:29 |
| pcardune | they were in senegal, but just recently moved to Thailand | 23:31 |
| pcardune | I'll be working for arlington on CanDo stuff as well as a bit of work on SchoolTool | 23:31 |
| gpaci | From where? | 23:31 |
| pcardune | I also got a google summer of code internship to do cool stuff with ajax in zope | 23:31 |
| pcardune | from... walla walla | 23:31 |
| gpaci | (Coincidentally, perhaps, "Goin' Mobile" is currently playing on iTunes....) | 23:32 |
| pcardune | ha ha | 23:32 |
| gpaci | They don't kick you out of the dorm for the summer? | 23:32 |
| pcardune | they do, but I'm renting an apartment next school year, so I'm living there during the summer | 23:32 |
| gpaci | Thus avoiding the tedious process of finding a summer sublettor. | 23:33 |
| wjohnsto | What year are you in College? | 23:33 |
| gpaci | I'm in my 17th. | 23:33 |
| pcardune | wjohnsto: just finishing up sophomore year | 23:33 |
| pcardune | gpaci: precisely | 23:33 |
| wjohnsto | ah, my sister's age | 23:33 |
| pcardune | gpaci: are you still doing fun things with opengl? | 23:34 |
| gpaci | Oh, yeah. I just recently got it to read Alice 1.0 .vfb (vertex and face) files. | 23:34 |
| pcardune | cool | 23:35 |
| gpaci | I thought my kids would love the pterodactyl (really more of a ramphorhincus). | 23:35 |
| gpaci | Instead, their favorite 3D model is.... | 23:35 |
| gpaci | (Any guesses?) | 23:35 |
| pcardune | buzz lighyear? | 23:35 |
| gpaci | Um, these models are probably all older than that. | 23:36 |
| pcardune | the bunny? | 23:36 |
| gpaci | THE TOASTER! | 23:36 |
| wjohnsto | ! | 23:36 |
| pcardune | interesting.... | 23:36 |
| gpaci | It dissolves them into helpless giggles every time I say "our friend the Toaster." | 23:36 |
| pcardune | ha ha | 23:36 |
| gpaci | I'd suspect it's some kind of drug humor, except they're 3 and 5. | 23:37 |
| gpaci | Of course, stupid Alice 2.0 uses some crappy-ass XML format. | 23:37 |
| gpaci | And, to be honest, I had to manually tweak the [flying reptile]'s wings so they weren't coming out of his back ridge. | 23:37 |
| pcardune | the words "manually tweak" in this context sound quite frightening | 23:38 |
| gpaci | But it's nice being able to benefit from hundreds of pre-made models of all kinds of stuff (including vehicles!). | 23:38 |
| gpaci | Well, I did do a scalef(0.01, 0.01, 0.01) on him first. | 23:38 |
| gpaci | I also did a little thing where I make a cloud of random points, give them an arbitrary order, | 23:39 |
| gpaci | then have each one move a little closer to the one just before it in the order. | 23:39 |
| pcardune | interesting | 23:39 |
| gpaci | The emeregent behavior surprised me: they basically whirl around in a knot, | 23:40 |
| pcardune | i need something that takes a point cloud and makes faces out of them | 23:40 |
| gpaci | slowly simplifying the knot by eliminating kinks and loops over time. | 23:40 |
| pcardune | I just haven't figured out how to order them | 23:40 |
| pcardune | (although I haven't thought about it that much) | 23:40 |
| pcardune | gpaci: I'm going to have to try that | 23:40 |
| gpaci | That's easy: start with faces, then make a point cloud out of them. Then reverse it. | 23:40 |
| gpaci | I can put the code up if you want it. | 23:40 |
| pcardune | but I dont have faces to start out with | 23:41 |
| gpaci | Take a digital photograph of your face. | 23:41 |
| gpaci | Pull it into python (we're way OT here) with pygame. | 23:41 |
| gpaci | Turn each pixel into a point. | 23:41 |
| pcardune | with PIL would be faster | 23:42 |
| gpaci | How big a face do you have? | 23:42 |
| pcardune | I think we are talking about different kind of faces | 23:43 |
| gpaci | Ah. You mean face as in, what a cube has six of. | 23:43 |
| pcardune | yes | 23:43 |
| gpaci | Whereas I've been thinking about a photo-blowing-away-like-sand effect. | 23:43 |
| pcardune | oh... i've already done that one :) | 23:43 |
| gpaci | So you have a GEOMETRY problem. | 23:44 |
| pcardune | yes | 23:44 |
| gpaci | Did you give different weights to different colors? | 23:44 |
| gpaci | Do you just want the convex hull of a point cloud? | 23:44 |
| pcardune | gpaci: actually yes i did | 23:44 |
| gpaci | The 2-D algorithm is simple. I don't know a 3-D one off the top of my head. | 23:46 |
| gpaci | I did put myself to sleep once by trying to think one up. | 23:47 |
| pcardune | lol, yeah | 23:48 |
| gpaci | I just thought another one up: start with the point closest to the origin; | 23:48 |
| pcardune | I suppose I could use the 2-D one... because the point clouds are level sets | 23:49 |
| gpaci | keep examining points that are the greatest angle away from that point... | 23:49 |
| gpaci | Needs more thought. | 23:49 |
| gpaci | What's a level set? | 23:49 |
| pcardune | like, take z=x^2+y^2 | 23:50 |
| pcardune | the curve where z=2 is a level set | 23:50 |
| pcardune | (and happens to be a circle) | 23:50 |
| gpaci | So it's all coplanar. | 23:50 |
| pcardune | of radius sqrt(2) | 23:50 |
| pcardune | gpaci: right | 23:50 |
| gpaci | Yeah, you could just transform the points into u,v coordinates on your intersecting plane. | 23:50 |
| gpaci | (Which, if it's always z=c, would be very easy.) | 23:51 |
| pcardune | and they all have the same number of points | 23:51 |
| pcardune | I'll revisit the problem some time this summer | 23:51 |
| gpaci | Oh, I get it: you find the convex hull at each z value, then use those across z values as a mesh. | 23:52 |
| pcardune | I was trying to get a 3d picture of all the different julia for a given real value | 23:52 |
| gpaci | But I wouldn't call that a point "cloud". | 23:52 |
| pcardune | julia sets* | 23:52 |
| pcardune | gpaci: yeah, it's not as complicated as a point "cloud" | 23:52 |
| gpaci | So you deliberately misled me :x | 23:59 |
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