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| AVN` | maddog is freezeing up | 17:47 |
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| AVN` | is maddog down? | 18:02 |
| AVN` | nvm | 18:02 |
| wjohnsto | It is working | 18:02 |
| wjohnsto | but it is very slow | 18:02 |
| ignas | yippie got public timetables for students working :) | 18:04 |
| AVN` | its basically stopped responding | 18:10 |
| wjohnsto | how unfortunate :( | 18:23 |
| wjohnsto | it's back up now | 18:24 |
| AVN` | kinda | 18:26 |
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| AVN` | not really | 18:28 |
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| AVN` | heym are IContainers made by Apple? | 18:53 |
| wjohnsto | Apple makes IRacks | 18:54 |
| AVN` | Does everyone want me to take things out of the IRack? | 18:54 |
| pcardune_ | hi AVN` | 18:54 |
| AVN` | Hi | 18:54 |
| pcardune_ | AVN`: did you get my email? | 18:55 |
| AVN` | the one about meating at the original time? | 18:58 |
| AVN` | yeah | 18:58 |
| AVN` | and the one inviting me to work from 9 today to tomorrow at 9? I thought that was an error | 18:58 |
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| pcardune_ | yeah... that must have been an error | 18:59 |
| pcardune_ | AVN`: do you know where Filip is? | 19:00 |
| pcardune_ | is he coming? | 19:00 |
| AVN` | his away message said he went to get a cherry tree | 19:03 |
| AVN` | don't know what that means | 19:03 |
| pcardune_ | oh | 19:03 |
| AVN` | no, I don't know where he is | 19:03 |
| pcardune_ | well maybe he won't be able to make it | 19:03 |
| pcardune_ | how much farther did the two of you get over last week? | 19:04 |
| AVN` | I don't know what he has done, but I added a IPostContainer class | 19:04 |
| AVN` | I don't think he has done anything, cause I can account for the whole BZK revision count | 19:05 |
| pcardune_ | ok | 19:05 |
| AVN` | maddog is going super slow right now | 19:06 |
| AVN` | or it was a half hour ago | 19:06 |
| pcardune_ | seems to be working well right now | 19:06 |
| wjohnsto | it's working fine now | 19:06 |
| AVN` | ok | 19:07 |
| mlinnell | pcardune_: is there class today? | 19:14 |
| AVN` | no | 19:14 |
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| pcardune_ | mlinnell: no, i'm meeting with individual groups like last week | 19:15 |
| mlinnell | hmm, ok, nobody told me lol | 19:15 |
| Preetam | oh, guess I will leave then | 19:15 |
| mlinnell | bye | 19:15 |
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| Preetam | bye | 19:16 |
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| wjohnsto | pcardune: I have a question about the Zcontact skin | 19:18 |
| wjohnsto | earlier this week bnguyen and I met with you to talk about our Poll function... and we moved everything into a Poll directory. | 19:19 |
| pcardune_ | wjohnsto: yep, ask away | 19:20 |
| wjohnsto | but the ++skin++ still works with the Poll. Should it be that way? | 19:20 |
| pcardune_ | yes | 19:20 |
| pcardune_ | When you register a skin, it's a skin for *anything* | 19:21 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 19:21 |
| wjohnsto | so is there a way to put the skin in our python directory so that it doesn't have 'ZContact' in the URL? | 19:22 |
| wjohnsto | because it's a little misleading | 19:22 |
| pcardune_ | yes | 19:22 |
| pcardune_ | the Zcontact part comes from the zcml registration for the skin | 19:22 |
| pcardune_ | you can register it as whatever you want | 19:22 |
| pcardune_ | for zcontact, you want to leave it registered as ZContact, so that people know that skin is *intended* for the zcontact application | 19:23 |
| pcardune_ | you want to create a *new* skin for the poll | 19:23 |
| wjohnsto | just copy the files into the poll directory and change the directory inheritance? | 19:24 |
| pcardune_ | or make it from scratch | 19:26 |
| pcardune_ | whichever way is easier for you | 19:26 |
| wjohnsto | I made it from scratch | 19:27 |
| wjohnsto | it's only a couple lines ;) | 19:27 |
| pcardune_ | yeah... | 19:27 |
| wjohnsto | I added my TeamSpeak tutorial to the wiki in case anyone wants it, but it doesn't seem like people took me up on the idea | 19:29 |
| pcardune_ | yeah, not everyone has a mic | 19:32 |
| pcardune_ | are you two going to be taking screenshots of the VB SEPG program sometime soon? | 19:33 |
| bnguyen | yeah we'll get right on that | 19:34 |
| AVN` | see ya guys, leaving now | 19:34 |
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| wjohnsto | yes | 19:34 |
| wjohnsto | about that, though | 19:35 |
| wjohnsto | could you clarify what you meant by "creating user stories in zope" | 19:35 |
| wjohnsto | ? | 19:35 |
| wjohnsto | Mr. Elkner said that it would be more effective if we put the user stories on the wiki | 19:35 |
| pcardune_ | i don't remember saying zope, but if I did, i meant the wiki | 19:36 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 19:37 |
| wjohnsto | [04:18] <pcardune> that would be translated to zope user stories like this: | 19:38 |
| wjohnsto | ;) | 19:38 |
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| wjohnsto | but the wiki sounds good... apparently we do not have permission to put screen shots directly onto the wiki, but we can do it with imageshack or something | 19:39 |
| pcardune_ | i mean, that those would be translated to user stories *for* zope (i.e. from those user stories you would know how to program zope) | 19:39 |
| pcardune_ | you could just put them in your maddog account public_html folder | 19:39 |
| wjohnsto | that's true | 19:40 |
| wjohnsto | ok well we'll get on that | 19:40 |
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| pcardune_ | hi tehminkeh | 20:04 |
| tehminkeh | hey | 20:05 |
| pcardune_ | were you guys able to work on your project over the last week? | 20:06 |
| tehminkeh | i unfortunately wasn't able to | 20:06 |
| tehminkeh | it was the last week of this marking period | 20:06 |
| tehminkeh | and my teachers realized we didnt have enough grades | 20:06 |
| pcardune_ | oh yeah... i know how that is | 20:06 |
| tehminkeh | lol | 20:06 |
| tehminkeh | i dont know about my colleagues however | 20:07 |
| Lumiere | 'noon all | 20:21 |
| pcardune_ | hi Lumiere | 20:22 |
| Lumiere | pcardune_: would it be better to go with schooltool trunk with cando trunk, and resource scheduling with experimental? | 20:22 |
| pcardune_ | I started doing some crazy ajax stuff but then came up against needing to abstract everything out to make it sane... blargh | 20:22 |
| Lumiere | yea I saw | 20:22 |
| pcardune_ | no | 20:22 |
| pcardune_ | experimental is *crazy* stuff | 20:22 |
| Lumiere | lol | 20:22 |
| pcardune_ | experimental is *highly unstable* | 20:22 |
| Lumiere | aka 'you gotta be nuts to run this' unstable? | 20:23 |
| pcardune_ | yeah | 20:23 |
| Lumiere | sounds like it's perfect for elkner to run in production XD | 20:23 |
| pcardune_ | yeah... | 20:23 |
| Lumiere | I'll help him get setup on it tuesday (j/k) | 20:23 |
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| wjohnsto | pcardune: are you there? | 22:30 |
| pcardune_ | wjohnsto: yep | 22:32 |
| wjohnsto | I am having trouble getting a new directory into my bzr | 22:33 |
| wjohnsto | I made an SEPG directory | 22:33 |
| wjohnsto | but when I type "bzr init" nothing happens, it makes it appear like it has become a bzr, but in truth, it hasn't | 22:33 |
| pcardune_ | nothing should happen | 22:34 |
| pcardune_ | try typing bzr status | 22:34 |
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| pcardune | remember you have to do bzr add to actually add things to the bzr repository | 22:34 |
| wjohnsto | yup | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | I've done all that | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | wjohnsto@maddog:~/zope3/lib/python/sepg$ bzr status | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | added: | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | SEPG.exe | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | __init__.py | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | roster.xml | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | startscreen.png | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | http://maddog.yhspatriot.net/~wjohnsto/ | 22:35 |
| pcardune | and then you have to use bzr commit to actually commit the changes | 22:35 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 22:36 |
| wjohnsto | I've done that now | 22:36 |
| wjohnsto | I'm not sure what's going on | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto | if you want to login to my account and check it out I'll change the password | 22:38 |
| pcardune | well what are you expecting to happen that is not happening? | 22:38 |
| wjohnsto | I am expecting a repository to appear in my public_html directory | 22:39 |
| wjohnsto | just like with zcontact and poll | 22:39 |
| pcardune | the repository won't automatically appear there | 22:40 |
| pcardune | bzr doesn't do that | 22:40 |
| pcardune | you have to do that yourself by creating a symbolic link | 22:40 |
| wjohnsto | I always forget that step :-O | 22:45 |
| wjohnsto | I think it might be because kjcole left the symbolic linking out of his bzr tutorial | 22:45 |
| pcardune | well symbolic linking isn't essential to how bzr works, it is just a handy thing we use on maddog so that people have access to our branches over the internet | 22:49 |
| wjohnsto | ln -s /home/wjohnsto/zope3/lib/python/sepg/ | 22:49 |
| wjohnsto | that's the command right? | 22:49 |
| wjohnsto | then I put sepg as the link name | 22:49 |
| Lumiere | don't need a link name if it is the same as the folder being linked | 22:50 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 22:51 |
| wjohnsto | I now have the SEPG application on my bzr, so I'll put that link on the wiki | 22:51 |
| pcardune | great | 22:52 |
| wjohnsto | and I uploaded a screenshot, so I'll add my first user-story to the wiki as well | 22:52 |
| pcardune | awesome | 22:54 |
| wjohnsto | would you rather I link to the screen shots, or just have them appear on the wiki page? | 22:54 |
| pcardune | links would be best | 22:54 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 22:55 |
| pcardune | wjohnsto: I'm heading out for a bit, but I'll be back later if you have any more questions | 23:22 |
| wjohnsto | ok | 23:25 |
| wjohnsto | c ya | 23:25 |
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