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| ryanpg | hi all... I'm a technology coordinator at a small school in Illinois (US), I'm looking for a linux based student information system | 16:37 |
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| ryanpg | I saw that something like this is being worked on currently | 16:38 |
| ryanpg | could I actually deploy this now? or is it still very "alpha"? | 16:38 |
| ignas | it is too alpha to deploy i think | 16:39 |
| ignas | unless your needs are very limmited | 16:39 |
| ryanpg | ignas, do you know of any other mature linux SIS? | 16:47 |
| ignas | no, not really | 16:47 |
| ryanpg | :( | 16:48 |
| ryanpg | there's one called theSIS but it doesn't look maintained | 16:52 |
| ignas | ryanpg: what are your requirements? | 16:52 |
| ryanpg | and I found schoolmation, supposed to be Open source but seems to cost $$$ | 16:52 |
| ignas | if i knew what you need i might give you more information about what's missing | 16:52 |
| ryanpg | ignas, the basics, attendance, demographic, grades, schedule | 16:52 |
| ignas | attendance - might be good enough for you | 16:53 |
| ignas | grades - we don't have it in a usable state | 16:53 |
| ignas | schedule - works well enough | 16:53 |
| ignas | demographics - you might have to modify them to suit your school | 16:53 |
| ignas | which requires at least some knowledge of python | 16:54 |
| ignas | another problem is importing the data into schooltool | 16:54 |
| ignas | we don't really have a standard migration path worked out | 16:54 |
| ryanpg | well, we don't have much data as it is | 16:55 |
| ryanpg | maybe I could do a test install and just see for myself how close it is to meeting our needs | 16:55 |
| ignas | now there is another problem - the most up to date version which is significantly better (and is actually being maintained) is not released | 16:56 |
| ignas | so you might need: | 16:56 |
| Lumiere | hi ignas | 16:56 |
| ignas | http://www.schooltool.org/documentation/setting-up-a-development-server/your-development-environment | 16:57 |
| ignas | Lumiere: hi | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | it doesn't look like I was CC'd on it | 16:57 |
| Lumiere | but welsh is getting pissy about getting resource scheduling merged back to trunk | 16:58 |
| ignas | CC'd on what? | 16:58 |
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| ignas | oh | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | the email he supposedly sent to th1a_ | 16:58 |
| ryanpg | ignas, so if I get the SVN version of schooltool, the SIS will be included? | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | it was the first thing off him today | 16:58 |
| Lumiere | schooltool is the SIS | 16:59 |
| ignas | ryanpg: schooltool is the SIS | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | *ninja* | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | schoolbell is the old calendar-only release | 16:59 |
| Lumiere | it's now completely unsupported as far as I can tell | 16:59 |
| ignas | Lumiere: if you have any programmers not having anything to do - you can always speed the merging process up ;) | 17:00 |
| Lumiere | that's what I tried to say | 17:00 |
| ryanpg | I thought there were three components of one "schooltool" project, schoolbell schooltool and cando | 17:00 |
| Lumiere | but he wasn't having anything of it | 17:00 |
| ryanpg | but now I understand that schooltool has absorbed cando and schoolbell? | 17:00 |
| Lumiere | schoolbell was always part of schooltool, schoolbell is just a watered down release of schooltool | 17:01 |
| Lumiere | cando is an addon that at some point hopefully will be an easily installed module of schooltool | 17:01 |
| Lumiere | but for the time being is a seperate app built on schooltool | 17:01 |
| Lumiere | (I'm the release/bug driver and an assistant project manager on cando) | 17:02 |
| ignas | what are the reasons welsh *needs* the resource booking in TRUNK? | 17:05 |
| Lumiere | <_< | 17:08 |
| Lumiere | I have no earthly idea | 17:08 |
| Lumiere | or other-worldly idea either | 17:08 |
| ignas | as I am the person who will be doing it talking to me would work better... | 17:10 |
| Lumiere | he was poking tom to push it to you | 17:12 |
| Lumiere | I agree with you though | 17:12 |
| Lumiere | I need to get him on irc | 17:12 |
| Lumiere | and staying on irc more | 17:12 |
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| Lumiere | hi jinty | 17:42 |
| jinty | he Lumiere | 17:42 |
| Lumiere | so what's wrong with the build? | 17:42 |
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| ryanpg | yeah upgrades with ubuntu are usually easy, but as I said... I screwed up LVM really badly, and I know grub and the kernel have changed a lot in that regard since breezy | 18:10 |
| Lumiere | ic | 18:10 |
| Lumiere | back stuff up first | 18:10 |
| ryanpg | Lumiere, yeah my samba share (which is what I care most about) is on a separate hard drive | 18:11 |
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| Lumiere | jinty: any idea what's up? | 18:32 |
| jinty | Lumiere, yeah, I probably upgraded the build environment I used to build the package to edgy | 18:33 |
| jinty | aslo, I seem to have updated the Zope-3.3 branch the package builds from also by mistake | 18:33 |
| jinty | so the chewing gum and elastic that was the build process fell apart | 18:34 |
| Lumiere | ok | 18:35 |
| * Lumiere hands over duct tape and a rubber mallet | 18:36 | |
| jinty | so now i'm dancing around a pot, waving my hands widly and mumbling strange incantations | 18:36 |
| jinty | we're putting the whole of zope and schooltool in the package, so things are really complex and fragile... | 18:38 |
| Lumiere | I am realizing that at this point | 18:39 |
| Lumiere | it's definately an argument for cleaning up the entire release process for zope 3, schooltool, and cando | 18:39 |
| jinty | hah, only if the zope3 people decide to make it easy for packagers | 18:40 |
| jinty | they never have in the past | 18:40 |
| Lumiere | I am guessing that's one of the reasons that launchpad can't release code too | 18:41 |
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| * jinty needs to get much more involved than he is with buildout development to make sure that things are going to work with packaging | 18:41 | |
| Lumiere | oh | 18:42 |
| Lumiere | a jim brainchild | 18:42 |
| Lumiere | I wish your brain luck | 18:42 |
| Lumiere | jim's brainchildren have a tendency to turn people to mush | 18:43 |
| jinty | yeah, we'll see how things go | 18:49 |
| jinty | anyway, I'm uploading a new package at the moment | 18:50 |
| Lumiere | ok | 18:52 |
| Lumiere | lemme know when it's up | 18:52 |
| Lumiere | I'll install it | 18:52 |
| jinty | Lumiere, ok, give it a try | 19:00 |
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| Lumiere | ok | 19:17 |
| Lumiere | looks like it started | 19:22 |
| Lumiere | and the major bug is fixed | 19:33 |
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| Lumiere | pcardune: ayt? | 19:39 |
| ryanpg | hrm... I wonder, could schooltool be configured to add a new student/teacher to a samba share and create directories with the correct permissions? | 20:05 |
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| pcardune | Lumiere: I'm here now | 23:14 |
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