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| Spec | Lumiere: poke? | 00:07 |
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| * Fujitsu enquires as to what the opinions on the SchoolTool people are with regard to the brokenness of school{tool,bell} in Ubuntu at the moment. | 00:12 | |
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| Spec | Fujitsu: which release? | 00:28 |
| Fujitsu | Feisty, at the moment. | 00:31 |
| Fujitsu | We have Zope 3.3. The last SchoolTool release doesn't like 3.3. I don't think it advisable to put in current SVN, so we're sort of stuck. | 00:32 |
| Lumiere | hi Spec | 00:49 |
| Lumiere | Fujitsu: I believe that work to put a new release of schooltool will be done at europython... (don't quote me on that) | 00:50 |
| Lumiere | the person to ask obviousally is th1a | 00:50 |
| th1a | huh? | 00:50 |
| Lumiere | heh | 00:50 |
| Lumiere | ask and I shall receive? | 00:50 |
| Lumiere | hi tom | 00:50 |
| th1a | Hey. | 00:50 |
| Lumiere | Spec: what's up | 00:50 |
| Fujitsu | Hey th1a, Lumiere. | 00:50 |
| th1a | The current rough plan is to work on a release at Europython. | 00:51 |
| th1a | i.e. July-ish. | 00:51 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, so perhaps for Feisty+1. | 00:51 |
| Lumiere | imo, trunk+the resource branch would be nearly releaseable right now | 00:51 |
| Fujitsu | It's looking not too bad. | 00:52 |
| Lumiere | we'll find out really soon | 00:52 |
| Fujitsu | (although the `Book' button on the resource page doesn't work, which makes things hard to discover) | 00:52 |
| Lumiere | resource booking got a big overhaul | 00:52 |
| Lumiere | we're about to beta test it (off svn) with a school | 00:53 |
| Lumiere | in fact... th1a I had the IT coordinator at the school in today | 00:53 |
| th1a | It is more just a matter of not stopping regularly to produce releases that we then have to support. | 00:53 |
| Lumiere | she'll have teachers on it tomorrow | 00:53 |
| Spec | Lumiere: pm! | 00:53 |
| Lumiere | I don't see one... | 00:53 |
| Lumiere | are you identified? | 00:53 |
| Spec | no, i didn't send you one | 00:54 |
| Fujitsu | I noted. I've been following the resource-booking branch a lot lately, and school is looking to probably using it in the future. | 00:54 |
| Lumiere | I am hoping that it will be pulled into trunk in the next 2 weeks | 00:54 |
| th1a | Yes. | 00:54 |
| th1a | It should be in trunk soon. | 00:54 |
| Fujitsu | Are you planning on sticking with Subversion for the foreseeable future? | 00:55 |
| th1a | We would like to move to bzr. | 00:56 |
| th1a | It will probably happen this year. | 00:56 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, good. | 00:57 |
| Fujitsu | Do you guys have any preference as to what we do with SchoolTool for Feisty (to be released mid-April)? | 01:09 |
| Lumiere | th1a: on schoolbell | 01:12 |
| Lumiere | is that being dropped in favor of schooltool with basic modules? | 01:12 |
| Fujitsu | If it were up to me, that's certainly how I'd be doing it. | 01:14 |
| Lumiere | well | 01:15 |
| Lumiere | I'd like to see schooltool + schooltool-attendence + schooltool-timetables + schooltool-cando | 01:15 |
| Fujitsu | SchoolTool is just the base bits, and the others are extra plugin-ish things? | 01:16 |
| Lumiere | well | 01:16 |
| Lumiere | right now it all installs in one on svn | 01:16 |
| Lumiere | but, schoolbell is schooltool without attendence time tables or anything else | 01:16 |
| Lumiere | cando is a completely seperate product/branch | 01:17 |
| Fujitsu | That I knew... | 01:17 |
| Lumiere | but | 01:17 |
| Lumiere | I want cando to be an installable module of schooltool in the end (so does dwelsh) | 01:18 |
| Fujitsu | But you'd like to see a basic SchoolTool (approximating today's SchoolBell), with the attendance, timetables, cando to be installable addons? | 01:18 |
| Lumiere | imo yes | 01:18 |
| Fujitsu | That's a good idea to consider. | 01:19 |
| Fujitsu | Customisability is a good thing. | 01:19 |
| Fujitsu | What's so special about CanDo at the moment? | 01:19 |
| Lumiere | it's competency tracking | 01:22 |
| Lumiere | there's nothing else like it on the market | 01:22 |
| Lumiere | (competency -> hard skills like... "Write a news story.") | 01:23 |
| Lumiere | it doesn't have to be a pretty story | 01:23 |
| Fujitsu | OK, so it's well named :) | 01:23 |
| Lumiere | yea | 01:24 |
| Lumiere | we're putting 2007's user stories together in the next 2 weeks | 01:25 |
| Lumiere | we've got 15 or so hs students who are the dev team for this year | 01:25 |
| Lumiere | led by pcardune and eldar | 01:25 |
| Fujitsu | Those are the primary people participating in pcardune's Zope classes? | 01:25 |
| Lumiere | yea | 01:26 |
| Lumiere | +/- some other members of the yhslug community (yhslug is the lug at the high school that sponsors the development of cando) | 01:27 |
| * Fujitsu blinks. | 01:27 | |
| Fujitsu | A LUG... at a high school!? | 01:27 |
| Lumiere | I started it | 01:28 |
| Lumiere | so... yes | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | Impressive. | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | How big is said school? | 01:28 |
| Lumiere | we've had IBM present in our high school about using linux on 360s | 01:28 |
| Lumiere | 1700-2000 | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | Niiice. | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 01:28 |
| Fujitsu | 2-3 times a big as mine. | 01:28 |
| Lumiere | it's a small suburban hs | 01:28 |
| Lumiere | a lot of the ones in the counties around us are twice that size | 01:29 |
| Fujitsu | Still... There's like one big Linuxer at my school, and that's me. | 01:29 |
| Lumiere | well | 01:30 |
| Lumiere | the Computer Science program at that high school uses linux | 01:30 |
| Lumiere | it went to linux in 1998 | 01:30 |
| Fujitsu | That sounds more than a little better than our IT subjects... The only programming taught is VB 6. Everything is Windows, except for some of the servers. | 01:31 |
| Lumiere | intro language is python | 01:31 |
| Fujitsu | That's how it should be everywhere, IMO. | 01:33 |
| Lumiere | yea | 01:34 |
| Lumiere | we started with it in the cp4e days | 01:34 |
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| Bhaskar | th1a, hello | 06:29 |
| Bhaskar | th1a, we are going to deploy LTSP in schools after 15 march | 06:30 |
| th1a | Bhaskar: Good luck! | 07:05 |
| Bhaskar | th1a, thanks | 07:06 |
| Bhaskar | th1a, then we will deploy schooltool in those school | 07:06 |
| th1a | When do you think that will be? | 07:07 |
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| Bhaskar | th1a, it may be on May | 07:15 |
| Bhaskar | th1a, can we deploy in same date? | 07:16 |
| th1a | Well, we are actually planning to package a release in early July. | 07:16 |
| th1a | So waiting for that might make sense, if it can fit your schedule. | 07:17 |
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| Bhaskar | th1a, here we discuss on that matter | 07:39 |
| Bhaskar | th1a, i think it will better to us to wait upto July, then we will start to customize | 07:40 |
| th1a | Bhaskar: I think that would make sense. | 07:42 |
| Bhaskar | th1a, its ok, i suggest you it is better to package Schooltool in .deb in a single bundle | 07:43 |
| th1a | That would be the idea. | 07:46 |
| * Fujitsu doesn't see a bug about the `Book' button in schooltool-resource-booking not working. | 07:50 | |
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| Lumiere | Fujitsu: that's because we haven't seen one | 15:46 |
| Lumiere | (the book bug in schooltool-resource-booking | 15:46 |
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| Fujitsu | Lumiere: Well, I thought it would have been noticed, or is just me failing to understand how it works. | 23:18 |
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