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| Bhaskar | thla_: hello | 06:15 |
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| th1a | Hi Bhaskar. | 06:15 |
| Bhaskar | thla: translation template in launchpad has been changed? | 06:16 |
| th1a | At the beginning of the week, I believe ignas updated it. | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | thla: | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | SchoolTool Series: development | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | Translation template "schooltool" | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | thla: i think this is renamed | 06:20 |
| th1a | Yes. Ignas and I both explained this in our emails. | 06:20 |
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| jamesh | th1a: so, hopefully we'll have an test import of all your bugs up on demo.launchpad.net soon. | 06:23 |
| th1a | jamesh: Excellent. | 06:24 |
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| Bhaskar | thla: so i think i should use schooltool deveopment series template | 06:25 |
| th1a | Indeed. | 06:29 |
| Bhaskar | thla: you talked with CanDo manager for training of schooltool...when we can join? | 06:36 |
| th1a | It starts in about two weeks, I think. You got the email from Jeff Elkner, right? | 06:45 |
| Bhaskar | thla:thanks for your initiation, i have not got mail from him, yet | 06:48 |
| Bhaskar | thla: just i receive his mail | 06:49 |
| Bhaskar | now | 06:50 |
| Bhaskar | i m reading his mail now | 06:50 |
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| Bhaskar | thla: but the time he specify is unsuitable in kathmandu | 07:08 |
| Bhaskar | jamesh: how can i start to customize schooltool?? | 08:22 |
| jamesh | Bhaskar: I'm the wrong person to ask about that | 08:23 |
| jamesh | Bhaskar: but a good guess would be to look at the page template files (probably ending in ".pt") | 08:24 |
| Bhaskar | jamesh:it's ok | 08:24 |
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| jamesh | jfroche: hi | 08:55 |
| jfroche | jamesh: hello | 08:56 |
| jamesh | your roundup export looked pretty good. There were a few small issues with it that I mailed you about | 08:57 |
| jfroche | great ! | 08:57 |
| jfroche | i hope to fix that asap | 08:57 |
| jfroche | thanks for your help ! didn't know about relaxng schema, very nice ! | 08:58 |
| jamesh | jfroche: if you use emacs, check out the nxml-mode package then. | 08:59 |
| jfroche | same for vim ? | 08:59 |
| jfroche | ;) | 08:59 |
| jamesh | it can use a relax-ng schema to provide context sensitive element and attribute completion, and on the fly validation | 09:00 |
| jamesh | I don't know if there is anythin equivalent for vim | 09:01 |
| jfroche | i ll look | 09:01 |
| jamesh | perhaps you could try embedding an elisp into vim | 09:01 |
| jamesh | :) | 09:01 |
| jamesh | s/elisp/elisp interpreter/ | 09:01 |
| jfroche | ok ll do. thanks for all, v to move, i send u back the new export very soon | 09:02 |
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| jamesh | jfroche: mailed you with another suggestion to improve the export | 10:38 |
| jfroche | ok reading | 10:41 |
| jfroche | jamesh: great ! i didn't see the link between duplicated issues ! | 10:44 |
| jamesh | jfroche: I'm going to have to write some proper documentation on the import XML format at some point | 10:45 |
| jamesh | thank you for being a guinea pig :) | 10:45 |
| jfroche | welcome | 10:45 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: hello | 10:49 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, hi | 10:49 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: launchpad has changed schooltool translation templet | 10:51 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, yes, I believe a new one was uploaded | 10:51 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, and the names changed to make them more sensible | 10:52 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:ya more string had been added | 10:52 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: i m doing work on that templet | 10:53 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, that's great! but there will still be some untranslated strings | 10:54 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, there is a bug that is being worked on | 10:54 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: ya ignas have been working in this week | 10:54 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:i think you merged schooltool and schoolbell template in new one | 10:56 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, yes, I think something like that happened | 10:57 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, it's a lot of work to make schooltool translatable | 10:59 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: But there is still problem on leftside menu of schooltool, where is hyperlink | 11:00 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, ignas is working on that problem | 11:00 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: well | 11:00 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: i am also talking with CanDo manager for collaborating work among your team and us | 11:00 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:i need help for customization also | 11:01 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: so how can we proceed | 11:01 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, did you look at the links I sent you last time? especially about the Zope3 book? | 11:03 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: ya i am reading zope | 11:03 |
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| jinty | then continue with learning zope and read the schooltool source to try understand it | 11:04 |
| jinty | then ask specific questions and you can get answers | 11:05 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: i think schooltool user mannual as well developer mannual is needed | 11:05 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, it would be welcome if you were to write one | 11:05 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: i am planning to develope a user mannual | 11:06 |
| Bhaskar | jinty: can u run schooltool in other linux eg Red hat , fedora | 11:58 |
| jinty | Bhaskar, yes | 12:38 |
| jinty | even windows should be possible (with difficulty) | 12:38 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:but in documentation the prefable plateform is ubuntu | 12:39 |
| jinty | yes, because we don't have the manpower to write documentation for other platforms | 12:40 |
| jinty | or work out all the bugs | 12:40 |
| jinty | the platforms will always be slightly different | 12:40 |
| Bhaskar | jinty:ya | 12:41 |
| matthewrevell | th1a: ping | 13:00 |
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| th1a | Hi wdickers. | 17:59 |
| wdickers | good morning | 17:59 |
| th1a | I concluded last night that you're question from a while ago about why Acks weren't doing postAndProcess was perceptive. | 18:00 |
| th1a | That is, it is a bug. | 18:00 |
| th1a | Did you see my email? | 18:00 |
| wdickers | hmm, I don't believe so. Did you send it to wdickers@gmail.com? | 18:01 |
| th1a | I sent it to the openzis list. | 18:01 |
| wdickers | oh, I get that in batches, so I guess I won't get it until later | 18:03 |
| wdickers | let me change that setting now | 18:04 |
| th1a | Anyhow, I think I've been breaking off some of the Ack conversations too quickly both in the ZIS and agent. | 18:04 |
| th1a | So the Agent sends a GetMessage. | 18:04 |
| th1a | The ZIS responds with an Ack wrapping a message. | 18:05 |
| th1a | The Agent sends an Ack. | 18:05 |
| th1a | (that's where I stopped) | 18:05 |
| th1a | But I think the ZIS needs to respond with another Ack. | 18:05 |
| wdickers | so the ZIS response is an ack? I didn't know that | 18:05 |
| th1a | The ZIS pulls a message from the Agent's queue and wraps it in an Ack. | 18:06 |
| wdickers | Hmm, to say that it received the ack? That makes sense, because if there was a problem with the agent's ack then the message would stay in the ZIS queue | 18:06 |
| wdickers | but what if there was a problem with any one of the acks and the ack didn't get to its destination, what would happen? | 18:08 |
| th1a | So if the Agent doesn't get a response, nothing happens. | 18:09 |
| th1a | The ZIS doesn't move the message off the queue until it gets a final or immediate Ack. | 18:10 |
| wdickers | I see | 18:10 |
| th1a | The last Ack seems a bit unnecessary, which is why I decided it wasn't necessary. | 18:11 |
| wdickers | Then since it is important that the ZIS receive that ack, there should be confirmation | 18:11 |
| th1a | But then, the Agent is ending an HTTP request which it doesn't expect a response for, which doesn't make sense in its own way. | 18:11 |
| wdickers | true | 18:11 |
| th1a | Yes, that too. | 18:11 |
| th1a | So it is both reasonable and in the spec that the Agent expects a response. | 18:12 |
| wdickers | well I suppose it's your decision. What does the spec say? | 18:12 |
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| wdickers | if the spec says that then you should probably implement it | 18:12 |
| th1a | Well, I'd like someone else to take a look at the spec just to confirm that. | 18:12 |
| th1a | Before I make the change. It won't be difficult. | 18:13 |
| wdickers | I'm a little busy with our own coding. aelkner is much better at reading the spec than I am anyway | 18:13 |
| th1a | I'm afraid I'm pretty busy right now too. | 18:16 |
| wdickers | could I get back to you tomorrow? I'll have time to read the spec tonight | 18:17 |
| th1a | Anytime would be great. | 18:24 |
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