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| Bhaskar | thla:good morning (in Nepal) | 05:51 |
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| Bhaskar | thla:according to sutherland the template : schooltool 2006 is not perfect, this can arise bug | 05:54 |
| Bhaskar | thla: i think you are busy now? | 06:19 |
| Bhaskar | thla: have you talked with sutherland, for launchpad.net | 07:59 |
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| Bhaskar | thla: any success story you know , the deployment of schooltool in any country | 09:34 |
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| wdickers | morning | 17:58 |
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| aelkner | wdickers: could you sign in to gmail please? | 18:01 |
| wdickers | I cannot, it doesn't let me | 18:01 |
| aelkner | Hugh? | 18:01 |
| wdickers | wait, I think I'm in now | 18:01 |
| aelkner | It says your still offline. | 18:01 |
| wdickers | I sent you a chat, did you get it? | 18:02 |
| aelkner | Yes, but now you're offline again. | 18:03 |
| aelkner | Why is gmail so flakey for you? | 18:03 |
| wdickers | Hmm, gmail seems to be acting up | 18:03 |
| aelkner | Linda and I never have any problems. | 18:03 |
| wdickers | I don't know, but some of my classmates are having difficulties as well | 18:03 |
| aelkner | Could you please ask Jeff for Brett's phone number and best time to call him during the day/night? | 18:04 |
| wdickers | okay | 18:05 |
| wdickers | sorry, he's not here at the moment | 18:06 |
| aelkner | Out again?! Doesn't that brother of mine teach anymore? | 18:06 |
| wdickers | heh, he should be back soon...I hope | 18:06 |
| aelkner | In the meantime, last we met we got the tests to run. | 18:07 |
| ignas | jinty: ayt? | 18:08 |
| jinty | ignas: yep | 18:08 |
| ignas | are/were we planning on using buildout some time in the future? | 18:08 |
| jinty | We are planning to use eggs, I am not sure about buildout, but I think it may be necessary | 18:09 |
| jinty | I havn't gone deep enough into buildout to have an opinion yet | 18:10 |
| ignas | i see | 18:10 |
| jinty | We might have to use something like buildout to provide a reasonably repeatable distribution of schooltool | 18:11 |
| ignas | maybe you know how one would add cheeseshop to dependency_links in setup.eggs.py properly ? because some packages in 'http://download.zope.org/distribution/' are outdated with their new version in cheeseshop | 18:11 |
| jinty | as I am not sure that with such a complex dependency tree we can get repeatability only via eggs | 18:12 |
| jinty | I thought cheeseshop was always searched anyway | 18:12 |
| jinty | I am also beginning to believe that schooltool must become a namespace package. | 18:13 |
| jinty | but a question for you: which template do you and jfroche use/update, https://launchpad.net/schooltool/200https://launchpad.net/schooltool/2006/+pots/schooltool6/+pots/schooltool | 18:14 |
| jinty | sorry: https://launchpad.net/schooltool/2006/+pots/schooltool | 18:14 |
| ignas | hmm, maybe it should, but it is difficult on the code level (zcml) | 18:14 |
| ignas | 2006 one | 18:14 |
| ignas | as it is for trunk | 18:15 |
| jinty | I would have thought that the main template was more appropriate for trunk development | 18:16 |
| jinty | as 2006 doesn't exist anymore as a release. | 18:16 |
| jinty | as for zcml, it's only a big issue if you use package-includes | 18:17 |
| jinty | right? | 18:17 |
| ignas | hmm | 18:18 |
| ignas | yes i guess | 18:18 |
| ignas | indeed, i had to fix zcml only to make "make" not add package-includes i don't need | 18:19 |
| ignas | so the only problems are with source code level dependencies | 18:20 |
| ignas | (not that they are small problems) | 18:20 |
| ignas | :/ | 18:20 |
| jinty | which are solved by eggs, but not in a very repeatable way | 18:20 |
| ignas | no they are not ... eggs are not solving that | 18:20 |
| jinty | I mean having open ended dependencies is fine if you want to develop stuff, but not if you want to distribute | 18:21 |
| ignas | i mean schooltool is so interdependent that even if you are not using timetabling (schoolbell for example) | 18:21 |
| ignas | you still depend on schooltool.timetabling egg | 18:21 |
| ignas | but don't want it's zcml loaded | 18:21 |
| jinty | but things like schooltool.relationship are quite separate? | 18:21 |
| ignas | relationship and a couple more packages - yes, the rest of the stuff - no | 18:22 |
| ignas | :/ | 18:22 |
| ignas | you have seen the graph that mgedmin made a long time ago | 18:22 |
| ignas | ? | 18:22 |
| jinty | yep | 18:22 |
| ignas | i mean - these things are fixable now, but would take quite a lot of development time ... | 18:23 |
| jinty | the way I see it, schooltool as namespace package has 2 advantages right now: schooltool.relationship and friends will be useful to non-schooltool people | 18:23 |
| jinty | which might bring development/bugfix | 18:24 |
| ignas | true | 18:24 |
| ignas | but how would you disable the zcml for some packages, and leave it working for others ? | 18:24 |
| jinty | and some packages in the repository can be left out of a release | 18:25 |
| jinty | I would not use package-includes very much at all and have the extra packages included in the site.zcml | 18:26 |
| ignas | hmm | 18:26 |
| ignas | makes sense | 18:26 |
| jinty | at least until there is some solution involving entry points and zcml | 18:26 |
| ignas | then we have only functional tests and schooltool testrunner not supporting layers problem left | 18:27 |
| jinty | yes, I guess that means that a switch to the z3 testrunner is essential | 18:28 |
| jinty | It makes our code base smaller, but I'm not sure what extra features are in the schooltool test runner or if people really need them. | 18:29 |
| ignas | mgedmin: can you comment on that? | 18:31 |
| mgedmin | where should I start reading the backlog? | 18:31 |
| mgedmin | the z3 testrunner? | 18:32 |
| mgedmin | I don't really remember why we can't just switch to it | 18:32 |
| mgedmin | IIRC I wrote an email to the list about the obstacles in the way | 18:32 |
| * jinty goes looking | 18:32 | |
| mgedmin | there are some features of the current test runner that we would lose: colourisation (nah, who cares) and test checkers (useful sometimes) | 18:33 |
| th1a | wdickers: You still here? | 18:33 |
| wdickers | yes | 18:34 |
| th1a | I worked on an agent to talk to Google Apps yesterday. | 18:34 |
| th1a | Made pretty good progress but I'm having trouble getting things activated properly on the Google side. | 18:34 |
| th1a | I just have to clean up some things (most notably getting my login and password out of the script!) before I check in what I've got. | 18:35 |
| wdickers | nice. Did you have to derive an agent class from Agent (ie GoogleAgent)? | 18:35 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:35 |
| th1a | That part is working nicely. | 18:36 |
| wdickers | good, that's what we're planning | 18:36 |
| th1a | I spent more time getting the command line script bits set up. | 18:36 |
| wdickers | which scripts, the ones to wake up the agent? | 18:37 |
| wdickers | sorry, gotta go. See you | 18:40 |
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| * jinty didn't find the mail about the change of the testrunner | 18:43 | |
| ignas | jinty: 2008-05-08 The failning of tarball tests | 19:05 |
| ignas | th1a: as for translations - schooltool main/+pots is set as the favoured translation, i need some place for trunk translations so 2006 was added | 19:06 |
| ignas | Registered series: | 19:06 |
| ignas | * 2006 | 19:06 |
| ignas | * main (development focus) | 19:06 |
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| ignas | Translations for SchoolTool links to main as well | 19:07 |
| th1a | If 2006 is trunk, what is main? | 19:07 |
| ignas | release | 19:08 |
| th1a | I guess we need to label this more clearly. | 19:08 |
| ignas | dapper versions | 19:08 |
| th1a | Well, now that 2006 is over, a new label would help. | 19:08 |
| ignas | th1a: did you get my activity report emails properly ? | 19:09 |
| th1a | Apparently not. | 19:09 |
| th1a | What should I be looking for? | 19:09 |
| ignas | th1a: having * development + * dapper (development series) would be fun | 19:09 |
| ignas | th1a: tom.hoffman@gmail.com should have "2007-01-03 report for Ignas (Wed, week 01)" email | 19:10 |
| th1a | I don't seem to have it. | 19:11 |
| ignas | hmm | 19:12 |
| ignas | weird, my gmail is showing that it was cc:'ed to you | 19:12 |
| ignas | ouch | 19:13 |
| ignas | apparently they are still in my mailq | 19:13 |
| th1a | on the phone... | 19:15 |
| ignas | th1a: you should get 3 emails now | 19:24 |
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| th1a | Ignas: Got 'em. | 19:29 |
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| th1a | ignas: Thanks for the reports. Will they be sent to me automatically now? | 19:50 |
| ignas | for some meaning of automatically | 19:51 |
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