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| ignas | jinty: is svn.schooltool.org down or what? | 10:55 |
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| jinty | hmm | 10:56 |
| jinty | ignas: seems to be true | 10:58 |
| ignas | :/ | 10:58 |
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| jinty | ok, not even ping returns anything. I've asked for someone to physically look at the box. | 11:15 |
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| ignas | jinty: that someone is looking very slowly :/ | 14:41 |
| jinty | I know, unfortunately I don't have direct access to the hosting company and just have to rely on one person. | 14:42 |
| jinty | ignas: the guy isn't around right now, but the ubuntu people say he's not on holiday | 14:50 |
| ignas | i see | 14:50 |
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| newz2000 | jinty: henrick asked me to look at your server problem, working on it now. | 17:40 |
| newz2000 | th1a, jinty: do you know if you server was upgraded to dapper/edgy? | 17:42 |
| jinty | newz2000, yes it was, to dapper, but a while back | 17:53 |
| newz2000 | jinty: do you know if the grub boot menu has been updated to boot the correct kernel? | 17:53 |
| jinty | yes, that I chacked | 17:53 |
| jinty | but the on the re-boot of the upgrade the machine did not restart | 17:54 |
| jinty | the serverpronto guys re-started it manually/ | 17:54 |
| jinty | it hasn't been re-started since | 17:54 |
| jinty | from the logs, apparently the machine re-started, but did not have an ethernet connection | 17:55 |
| jinty | newz2002: I recieved no feedback about what the real issue was, so could take no action. | 17:56 |
| newz2000 | jinty: OK, it probably won't come up right by itself then... adding info to the support request | 17:59 |
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| wdickers | morning | 18:00 |
| jinty | newz2000: Thanks a lot! | 18:00 |
| newz2000 | my pleasure. BTW, I may be the best person to contact regarding this type of stuff in the future. I'm took over as the webmaster so that heno could do accessibility | 18:01 |
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| jinty | newz2000: that's great, do you have an e-mail address? | 18:01 |
| newz2000 | matthew.nuzum@canonical.com | 18:02 |
| newz2000 | I'm in the USA (GMT -6) and am on freenode all day my time and usually other times too. Feel free to ping me. | 18:02 |
| jinty | I'd dearly love to find out what went wrong with the re-boot and have a machine that I trusted to come up again | 18:02 |
| newz2000 | Well, the dapper kernel on those don't have proper networking support. | 18:03 |
| newz2000 | Therefore we need to adjust grub so that it boots the older kernel | 18:03 |
| jinty | ha, and security... It is a multi-user machine | 18:03 |
| jinty | I mean there are lots of shell accounts | 18:04 |
| aelkner | wdickers: got your note. Did you see Tom's latest version of chesty? It's changed a lot. | 18:04 |
| wdickers | aelkner: not yet, updating now | 18:04 |
| newz2000 | jinty: we've wanted to do some experimenting on those servers to see if we can get the kernel working, but no one is willing to suffer the downtime while we experiment. :) | 18:04 |
| jinty | news2000: ha, well, a working machine is better to me than this one now... so I guess i'll shut up rather than put up;) | 18:05 |
| newz2000 | I fully understand. I don't know that I even have the time atm to do the experimenting anyway. | 18:06 |
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| aelkner | th1a: are you there? | 18:15 |
| th1a | aelkner: I am here. | 18:20 |
| aelkner | Hey Tom. I see you were busy. You rearranged the directory structure quite a bit. | 18:21 |
| th1a | Lots of testing related reorganization. | 18:23 |
| aelkner | We were wondering if we could create a directory called schooltool right next to chesty. Would that be where you'd put it? | 18:24 |
| th1a | Uh... just a sec. | 18:25 |
| th1a | Oh, I had already done that. | 18:29 |
| th1a | You can do: svn co https://svn1.hosted-projects.com/sif/pyagentlib/trunk/stAgent | 18:30 |
| aelkner | Isn't there just one tree I can do the svn up on to get everything? | 18:30 |
| aelkner | svn co https://svn1.hosted-projects.com/sif for instance? | 18:31 |
| wdickers | but this is just a schooltool instance, why would it be in the source? | 18:33 |
| th1a | Huh? | 18:33 |
| th1a | What are you putting in there? | 18:33 |
| aelkner | I figure the ZIS, the base agent, the tests, and the schooltool agent would be in the same tree. | 18:33 |
| th1a | aelkner: In theory you can do that, but in practice you don't want to. | 18:33 |
| aelkner | why not? | 18:34 |
| th1a | Because you'll get all the tags, branches, etc. | 18:34 |
| th1a | I mean, you can, but it isn't really what people do. | 18:34 |
| aelkner | Ok, I have to admit this svn stuff is still a black box to me. | 18:35 |
| aelkner | I'm used to perforce on a Sun. | 18:35 |
| aelkner | It was a lot simpler. | 18:35 |
| aelkner | If you like, we could do the checkout of stAgent to a sibling directory od chesty. | 18:36 |
| wdickers | darn, I'm out of time. I will see you guys after break, or maybe we'll schedule something during break | 18:37 |
| aelkner | I'll email you to try to set something up. | 18:37 |
| th1a | OK. Happy holidays wdickers. | 18:37 |
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| aelkner | Maybe next week. In the meantime, happy holidays. | 18:38 |
| aelkner | Boy when he leaves, he really burns rubber... | 18:38 |
| th1a | The bell rings... | 18:39 |
| aelkner | Anyway, would it be correct to do the checkout you proposed to a directory outside of the chesty tree? | 18:39 |
| th1a | Yes. | 18:39 |
| aelkner | Then we could do the same type of sys.path commands you did to get at the base class, right? | 18:40 |
| aelkner | Although, we would need to hard code the paths for now. | 18:40 |
| aelkner | In the end, the setup script would install chesty to the standard python path, right? | 18:41 |
| th1a | Well, you should be able to ... yes. | 18:41 |
| aelkner | That's something that needs to be worked out ecentually. | 18:42 |
| aelkner | eventually. | 18:42 |
| th1a | It is worked out. | 18:42 |
| th1a | setup.py should work. | 18:43 |
| aelkner | What's the web page that gives instruction for downloading/installing the agents? | 18:43 |
| aelkner | Maybe you don't have one yet. | 18:45 |
| th1a | Well, this is a work in progress. | 18:45 |
| aelkner | Anyway, if one runs setup.py, does that cause chesty to be copied to the python path? | 18:46 |
| aelkner | And if so, can our stAgent just import its modules without altering the python path? | 18:47 |
| th1a | The package in src. | 18:47 |
| th1a | That's the idea. | 18:47 |
| aelkner | I'll try out now. | 18:47 |
| aelkner | It asks me to provide command line arguments, but I can't figure from --help what I would need to supply. | 18:49 |
| th1a | sudo python setup.py install | 18:49 |
| th1a | ? | 18:49 |
| aelkner | I found --help-commands which was more helpfeul and was just about to try install... | 18:50 |
| aelkner | Qouldn't have know to do the sudo however, thanks. | 18:50 |
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| th1a | I have to go take a shower. | 18:52 |
| ddaa | Hey, just managed to get svn2bzr to run to completion on the dump ignas gave me. | 18:52 |
| ddaa | SteveA: ^ | 18:52 |
| aelkner | Ping me get back. | 18:53 |
| aelkner | when. | 18:53 |
| newz2000 | jinty, th1a: problem with that server, they've had to replace the powersuplly but they still can't get the computer to boot correctly. | 19:00 |
| newz2000 | jinty, th1a: They want to login to diagnose the problem and need a user account with root access. Can you give me a username and password (via email/gpg) that they can use? | 19:01 |
| jinty | hrmf, I guess I only know my password... | 19:02 |
| jinty | but I use it in a few other places as well | 19:02 |
| newz2000 | ok, well, if you're not comfortable giving that I'll tell them how to boot into single user mode and create an account | 19:02 |
| jinty | Yes, that's much better, thanks! | 19:03 |
| * jinty wipes his forehead (the disk drive boots!) | 19:03 | |
| newz2000 | not out of the woods yet | 19:03 |
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| ddaa | okay... it completes... but there's no trunk/schooltool in the output... | 19:19 |
| ddaa | ... | 19:20 |
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| newz2000 | jinty: still going back and forth with the support guy trying to instruct him how to start in single user mode. I'll update you when I have new status. | 20:20 |
| jinty | newz2000: doesn't he have a livecd? He can create a new account using that and chroot. | 20:32 |
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| batlogg | hello, is source.schooltool.org down? | 20:40 |
| jinty | batlogg: yep, people are trying to get it up right now | 20:41 |
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| newz2000 | jinty: sorry for the delay, had to get some lunch... the guy can't even figure out how to boot into single user mode, how I can I explain to chroot? :( | 21:29 |
| newz2000 | jinty: he's going to boot with a gentoo livecd so that we can fix whatever problem is with the server. | 21:31 |
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| jinty | newz2000: That's pretty scary.... but thanks for keeping me informed | 21:37 |
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| licio | newz2000, ping | 23:05 |
| newz2000 | licio: hello | 23:05 |
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| licio | oh | 23:05 |
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