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| lisppaste5 | ignas pasted "A sample snippet of code to check whether default colorization is the right one" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/29406 | 01:27 |
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| ignas | anyone with rights to change the topic of the channel ? | 13:01 |
| jfroche | ignas: booked your flight ? | 13:07 |
| jfroche | (hello ;)) | 13:07 |
| ignas | hi | 13:07 |
| ignas | not yet i think | 13:07 |
| jfroche | forgot to write it down yesterday 28 => 1 ? | 13:08 |
| ignas | Nov 28th evening to Dec 1st evening | 13:09 |
| ignas | http://source.schooltool.org/irclogs/%23schooltool.2006-11-06.log.html#t2006-11-06T15:38:51 | 13:09 |
| jfroche | ah great | 13:10 |
| ignas | jfroche: there is no plane Dec1 evening so it's either Dec 1 morning or Dec 2 | 14:25 |
| ignas | which way is better ? | 14:25 |
| jfroche | the way you prefer | 14:30 |
| jfroche | same for me | 14:30 |
| ignas | i'd go for the Dec 2 then, so we'd have 3 days for work | 14:31 |
| jfroche | perfect | 14:33 |
| jfroche | send me your plane shedule per mail | 14:33 |
| jfroche | plz | 14:33 |
| ignas | as soon as i will have it :) | 14:34 |
| jfroche | ok | 14:37 |
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| jfroche | ignas: do you know why login/password of the first user isn't asked when you create a schooltool instance like in zope2 & zope 3 ? | 15:56 |
| ignas | jfroche: because features don't exist by default :) | 15:57 |
| ignas | though i think there was some parameter you could pass to ./schooltool-server.py | 15:57 |
| ignas | so it would ask you for an admin password | 15:57 |
| jfroche | checking | 15:58 |
| jfroche | do you know if there is some UML diagram somewhere ? | 15:59 |
| ignas | UML ? | 15:59 |
| ignas | for a Zope3 application? | 16:00 |
| ignas | would like to see one | 16:00 |
| jfroche | should be part of the doc | 16:03 |
| ignas | jfroche: what i wanted to say is that a simple UML would not be of any actual use | 16:04 |
| jfroche | see clearer the global schema of the app | 16:04 |
| ignas | in zope 3 relationships between components are on the function level, adapters, subscribers, viewlets | 16:04 |
| ignas | and they do not transfer to UML straightforwardly | 16:05 |
| jfroche | right but people are creating standard for Z3 code generation from UML | 16:05 |
| ignas | and if you want to see the object hierarchy of the application i can suggest you using zodbbrowser, or introspector from the devmode | 16:05 |
| jfroche | guess they have some way to transfer | 16:05 |
| ignas | what i am trying to tell you is that UML diagram will not be of any use to you with the current architecture of the application | 16:07 |
| ignas | most class hierarchies are very flat | 16:07 |
| jfroche | things like http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/UMLDiagramOfAnAdapterFromIExampleISearchableText | 16:08 |
| jfroche | helps | 16:08 |
| ignas | until now, no programmers working on schooltool, considered things like this useful, so, sorry there aren't any UML diagrams | 16:09 |
| ignas | if they help you, you can try reading the code and creating them while learning | 16:09 |
| ignas | so they would help these after tou | 16:09 |
| ignas | *you | 16:09 |
| jfroche | yes i ll keep this idea in mind | 16:11 |
| ignas | as for such documentation | 16:11 |
| ignas | there is the APIdoc thing | 16:11 |
| ignas | it can list all the adapters for an interface | 16:11 |
| ignas | etc. | 16:11 |
| ignas | and it is always up to date | 16:11 |
| ignas | keeping it in graphics format is not very feasible | 16:11 |
| jfroche | i am looking after apidoc | 16:12 |
| jfroche | thankx | 16:12 |
| ignas | a lot of Zope3 developers use TAGS, id-utils, code, their memory instead of UML though | 16:13 |
| jfroche | ok just need to learn all these | 16:15 |
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| ignas | lisppaste5: url | 17:01 |
| lisppaste5 | To use the lisppaste bot, visit http://paste.lisp.org/new/schooltool and enter your paste. | 17:01 |
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| jfroche | ignas: does the init.d scripts for schooltool are available on svn ? | 18:27 |
| ignas | don't know, maybe | 18:28 |
| ignas | just that i am not sure they will work with an svn checkout | 18:28 |
| jfroche | what do you think to be the best way to run in daemon ? | 18:30 |
| jfroche | running start-stop-daemon ? | 18:31 |
| ignas | i am not sure really | 18:32 |
| ignas | i am using detachtty at the moment | 18:32 |
| ignas | just that i am not very good at deployment part | 18:33 |
| jfroche | took the one in http://www.mail-archive.com/schooltool@schooltool.org/msg00437.html | 18:33 |
| jfroche | ll try | 18:33 |
| ignas | managing servers, packaging things, monitoring uptime, etc seem difficult for me | 18:33 |
| ignas | hmm, what if schooltool is not in your /usr/bin ? | 18:34 |
| * ignas is running schooltool on a server without having root on it | 18:35 | |
| jfroche | i am changing the script to take the schooltool-server from the checkout | 18:36 |
| ignas | oh | 18:36 |
| ignas | mail it to the mailing list if you'll get it working reliably | 18:37 |
| lisppaste5 | ignas pasted "At the moment i am using this" at http://paste.lisp.org/display/29444 | 18:38 |
| ignas | detachtty is apt-getable on dapper and edgy | 18:39 |
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| jinty | ignas, jfroche: there is an easily modifiable startup script in the packages. http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-zope/schooltool/trunk/debian/schooltool.init?op=file&rev=0&sc=0 | 19:14 |
| jinty | but you have to be really careful that the name of the binary is not more than 15 charachters | 19:14 |
| jfroche | jinty: thanks, that's the one i am editing | 19:15 |
| jinty | Actually we should make makeinstance not create schooltool-server but schooltool | 19:15 |
| jinty | you might also be interested in the logrotate script | 19:16 |
| jfroche | i ll svn the script | 19:35 |
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